Omina_Sentenziosa

She's a woman who is likely heartbroken and has to come to terms with her position in sports and the fact that yes, her testosterone production does create an unfair advantage much like a woman taking steroids, as in those who beat her in the past but were disqualified.

If Semenya realizes this, why the fuck are they still trying to push to be included in those categories? Why can' t they accept that they can' t compete in women' s sports and use their visibility to start another league, for example, or simply accept that they can' t compete against other women because it' s unfair?

Do you have even the slightest clue of how detrimental and earth shattering a girl or woman finding out she has PAIS or CAIS can be to her? How suddenly whenever she speaks, despite knowing she was a girl and didn't benefit off male privilege or socialization her peers are going to think of her as a defective male?

Why exactly the feelings of these people should be taken into consideration when it comes to defining their sex? I am sure that many TIMs feel the same when they realize that they are not women or that the people around them don' t see them as women and consider them failed men. Why should their feelings be ignored, but people with CAIS/PAIS' s feelings should be taken into consideration? Just because you feel closer to them? What does male privilege have to do with this anyway?

This is the very mentality that justifies IGM and I am disgusted to see this here.

Yeah, no. The mentality that justifies IGM is that intersex people should conform physically to one sex, forcefully if necessary. Nobody here is saying that, and I am pretty sure nobody here is even thinking it. Nobody here is saying that Semenya should undergo whatever medical procedure sport committees have suggested either, and I frankly think that putting the option out was incredibly gross (I am talking about the commitee). They shold have banned Semenya regardless and move on.

Personally, I do believe that chromosomes should be the base to define sex, because those chromosomes are the ones that give a person their sex to begin with and cannot change. Intersex people suffer from conditions, without that condition, they would have developed as their chromosomes dictate. Regardless of what I think on the matter, no person with functioning testicles is a woman. Semenya is a male with an intersex condition, and as such they should be considered in regards of sport leagues. Not that I believe they didn' t know for decades, but even if they found out yesterday, the right thing to do would have been dropping out and find alternatives, not pushing continuously about being included when, you say it yourself, they agree and understand that they have an unfair advantage.