Adults should be allowed to make adult decisions, im not saying let children transition with full surgery, but for christ sake, next thing we know these people are gonna get the drinking age raised to 25 as well.

Wrencer · 2020-08-11T11:33:25+00:00

Have you seen the egg irl subreddit ? Dangerous af place for impressionable teenagers imo. Lots of ppl confusing depression with gender dysphoria.

Wrencer · 2020-07-31T21:39:54+00:00

It's mentioned on r/anime_titties

Wrencer · 2020-07-31T14:55:49+00:00

😂😂 wtf reddit

Welcome

Wrencer · 2020-07-31T07:47:39+00:00

I know !! I got banned from r/actuallesbians even though I never posted there, but their mods (the woke Stasi lol) saw that I posted in r/truebisexuals. I'm not even GC, I support trans rights, yet they still hate me because I said that they shouldn't force girldick on lesbians or sth like that

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T11:50:46+00:00

What happened ??

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T11:43:16+00:00

I think they have a place in LGBT because there's a lot of stigma attached to being ace. I mean, we're basically in a heteronormative society where we're expected to mate with the opposite sex. It's a tad bit ridiculous that now, according to their asexuality spectrum thingy, basically everyone is ace, but "real" asexual ppl (those who have no desire to have sex, not the ones who fuck every night but say they're ace because there's no "attraction") belong in LGBT, imo. Even more if they have a same sex partner.

I agree with you that lots of ppl nowadays think they're ace because they have a low sex drive, and society resents them for not being into sex. In my experience, as a woman with a high sex drive, I've encountered/dated a few guys with very low sex drives tbh, so I don't think it's necessarily a gendered thing. The problem with asexuality is that it's full of cishet quirky trenders who want to "belong" and think that not wanting to fuck every night= asexual. I think "real" ace ppl are pretty rare but they exist. Stuff like demisexual and ace spectrum are nonsense tho

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T11:32:50+00:00

How the actual fuck did AHS gain so much power ? I've visited it out of curiosity, and man this is where the real hatred takes place. It's like a fucking cult. Most of their members are actively brigading subs they deem "hateful". Isn't that against Reddit's global rules ?

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T08:13:13+00:00

What really

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T08:11:01+00:00

I've read somewhere that the brain isn't fully developed before you turn 25. I think that if 18 yo want to go on HRT and transition, they should be allowed to, but I'm 25 and tbh my way of seeing the world and myself has drastically changed in comparison to when I was 18.

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T08:08:02+00:00

The "egg" culture is really toxic, because basically every person who questions their gender according to them is trans. I 200% support trans rights, but it should be the person's decision to transition. Ppl can be trans, but also non binary, gender non conforming, a feminine boy, a masculine girl,... Trans culture is more and more popular online, and it's possible some very young ppl might want to alter their body at 13 but will completely change their minds 4 years after. I think a bit of gatekeeping is necessary here, I mean, just look at Sweden, there has been an explosion of gender dysphoria cases recently

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T08:02:21+00:00

I disagree. Asexuality definitely exists. I don't think it's a "spectrum" like the asexual community likes to pretend, but there are legit people out there that don't feel sexual attraction. What I think is stupid is stuff like demisexual, that is basically waiting til you know the person to have sex. Shouldn't be a "sexual orientation" tbh

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T07:58:41+00:00

72% masculine 😭😂

Wrencer · 2020-07-30T07:47:10+00:00

Totally ! It's like we HAVE to make our lives revolve around getting married and having kids when we get to a certain age.

Wrencer · 2020-07-18T19:08:04+00:00

I'm sorry about that : ( Wishing you good luck to gather users here. May I also suggest ruqqus ?

Wrencer · 2020-07-18T17:39:14+00:00

But there wasn't any hatred going on tho ? I've just visited your subsaidit and I mean, it's your right to be a traditional person. I don't see the "hatred" in that.

Wrencer · 2020-07-18T10:40:39+00:00

If ppl with different beliefs lose places that allow them to confront their opinions, free speech disappears and learning from others' point of views is crucial imo

Wrencer · 2020-07-18T10:39:06+00:00

That I need a man to have a fulfilling life

Wrencer · 2020-07-18T10:09:39+00:00

Wait, you got banned ?

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T14:33:31+00:00

Ah nice, me and some former users of r/uncensoredLGBT are on ruqqus (+lgbt guild) ❤

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T12:19:23+00:00

Do you mean, if a word is "masculin ou féminin"? Like, in English it's always "the" but in French we have "le" (masculin) and "la" (féminin). Like, it's "the book" ("le livre", masculin) and the door ("la porte", féminin).

There isn't another word, it's "le genre grammatical"

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T11:59:57+00:00

We also use "genre" to say "that kind". "Ce genre de livres"= "that kind of books".

I have no idea tbh. I think it might be older than I think, because I was already taught the difference between the 2 words like 10 years ago (I'm 25 now) but in recent years we've talked about it more and more.

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T11:44:02+00:00

"Sexe" and "genre". Used to be said without distinction before tho

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:57:56+00:00

You're on saidit ❤

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:39:32+00:00

You're on saidit ✨

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:37:55+00:00

It doesn't mean anything anymore.

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:37:31+00:00

A lot of "truscum" are considered terfy

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:34:55+00:00

Not everyone is either pro trans or pro GC. Some ppl are in between

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:33:42+00:00

Multiple GC members told me to come here because I'm basically a "terfy TRA" meaning that I support trans ppl but I'm critical of some aspects of the community, so maybe you could argue with me 😂

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:29:53+00:00

Am I the only one torn between wanting to abolish gender because it's a social construct, full of harmful stereotypes, and letting ppl express themselves the way they want ?

btw thanks for creating this more open minded place

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:26:35+00:00

In French it's 2 different words too

Wrencer · 2020-07-17T09:25:23+00:00

Yeah, I agree tbh, it's like some women refuse to see that women can be sexist towards other women, too. I've honestly encountered some men who were more feminist than some women.

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T15:10:38+00:00

Thank you ! I don't mean to invade anyone's space btw. I'm not trying to push an agenda on GC ppl at all. I just feel sympathy for some GC ideas, and I'd love to have discussions on a friendlier GC sub.

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T14:41:30+00:00

Yeah, I'm kinda in between, and it seems to trigger some girls at GenderCritical a lot lol

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T14:38:31+00:00

And you're right, it shouldn't be banned. I'm against all sorts of censorship.

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T14:33:51+00:00

Yes ? It wasn't relevant to the discussion. It was just used to discredit me, like TRA do when they dig up what they deem "terfy" stuff in your post history. I love how you ignore that it's literally my profile from another platform that was linked also. Let's encourage doxxing while we're at it.

Anyway I'm done here don't worry, I ain't interested in discussing in another echo chamber with children. Feel free to ban me. Really thought you girls were better than r/actuallesbians's methods. I literally got upvoted when I denounce it from them, but when it's from a GC person it's actually okay.

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T13:17:15+00:00

I posted a thread about AHS wanting to ban r/Radical_Feminists, and someone on here decided to post a link to my reddit's profile to discredit me basically (I have sympathy for the gender critical approach, but I'm not on board with everything honestly). A lot of women were condoning this childish behaviour, so I don't feel safe posting there anymore. Even if I disagree with some of their stuff, I literally never tried to "debate" or give my opinion, because it's not a debate sub, but if I respect their opinions, I want to be respected as well and I don't want my other profiles linked. They have a very narrow minded vision of the world, no nuances is allowed, that reminds me too much of reddit. They're mad at TRA for going through post history to find terfy stuff, but apparently it's okay if it's a GC girl lol

I have some criticizing towards the trans community, but I'm more interested in the "abolish gender stereotypes" part of GC tbh

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T12:57:02+00:00

Okay, I'm done here, you obviously condone those childish behaviours and are no better than some TRA

Good luck

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T12:51:35+00:00

I was obviously talking about the "linking to someone's profile on other platforms" attitude.

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T12:50:17+00:00

I think I will be interested in joining, not really a fan of some of the culture at GenderCritical atm.

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T12:46:53+00:00

I'm aware of the debate sub, I've already joined it, but thanks for reminding me about it.

I won't because it's not my thing to do that. I would have preferred censorshipment to DM me about it if she was upset with my post, since I know her from my sub and thought she didn't like those kinds of methods either. I interact with ppl about the comment they just posted, I engage with the comment, not with the person's post history. I don't have the time nor interest to dig up the post history of every user I interact with online. Those remind me of actuallesbians's methods, which are frowned upon when it's done by TRA, but apparently okay for some if it's a GC member...

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T12:40:34+00:00

I just dislike this sort of attitude. Feel free to agree with those sorts of methods. But those are exactly why I left reddit, it doesn't sit right with me, and I have a right to complain. If your Instagram username was the same as your Saidit's username, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like me to link it lol

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T12:29:34+00:00

I'm literally the OP of this thread. How is my post a "debate" one ? I was just trying to tell ppl on here that a radfem sub is targeted by AHS. How is my opinion on other stuff relevant here ? It's not like I have an hidden agenda and have posted "debatable" stuff on this sub anyway. Would you like me to post a link to a comment you made on another platform, and discredit your opinion on other issues for it? These are literally the extreme TRA you dislike that much methods btw. No nuanced opinions allowed

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T12:26:58+00:00

That doesn't make it okay to link it lol

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T11:46:38+00:00

Mocking "aromantic" ppl lol

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T11:29:48+00:00

Instead of focusing on my reddit's profile, maybe we could, idk, support the girls at r/Radical_Feminists against censorship ?

Edit : no need to send me more vitriol about my reddit's post history, or to send me comments about how posting ppl's profiles on other platforms on a totally irrelevant thread is totally valid, I have no time in having petty fights with children who condone such methods. Sorry if ppl having nuanced opinions trigger some of you so much

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T11:22:51+00:00

Yeah, I was just trying to explain that I have my place here even though my opinions are nuanced. I'm not the only one here in a "grey" area. I don't attack anyone on their opinions here, but I expect not to be attacked for mine either. Especially when said opinions take place on other platforms. I don't need the approval of Reddit's woke censorship mob, but I honestly don't care about the approval of some women here who think I "contradict" myself because my vision of the world isn't black and white either. I'd rather stick with the mature and reasonable women, and I know there are plenty here. You're 100% right about ignoring children

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T11:15:45+00:00

Don't you think it would be hella counterproductive for reddit to ban a radical feminist sub for "transphobia" again? Some radfems aren't GC, they are allowed to have a space on reddit without being banned for being radfems (even if I saw some GC content on that sub too that could explain a future ban) Fuck censorship really

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T11:12:31+00:00

That's something some trans activists did

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T11:08:34+00:00

What's the difference between GenderCritical and Gender_Critical?

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T10:54:44+00:00

I left reddit to avoid the very black or white stance there about feminism/LGBT issues debates. Turns out we ain't allowed to debate on saidit either, and to be "moderate" and have "grey, in between" opinions. It's either "pick a side" or get mocked, or considered an "hypocrite" or "contradicting yourself". No place for nuances anymore on online forums. Echo chambers and digging up reddit drama are invading saidit. It's all about agreeing with the majority opinion or fucking off. We should be allowed to participate in spaces without having to 100% conform to said spaces' majority opinion. If you wanna do that and don't support contradiction, just open a fucking private groupchat and not an open forum on a free speech platform

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T09:38:40+00:00

You say you like me, but it's really tough love then 😂😂

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T09:36:10+00:00

Her. And not really lol. I'm just in between opinions and I'm not the only one

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T09:21:44+00:00

The fact is that this whole situation is way more complicated than "trans women are women therefore they should be considered the same as cis women and share every space with them" (and I thought you agree with that, since you were on r/uncensoredLGBT). I used to think that, then I decided to listen to some GC girls I talk with on reddit, and there are some issues cis women need to stand for. In my comments on LesbianActually, you can see that I'm fighting the users who say that "not dating trans women is transphobic". I'm also against pushing gender non conforming ppl to transition, and to guilt lesbians into liking "girldick". I also think that some trans women have a very misogynistic vision of womanhood. As you can see on my posts on r/truebisexuals, which don't make me very popular among TRA. I like you and your comments on r/uncensoredLGBT always made me laugh, and I value your opinion as an older feminist and LGBT woman, but tbh GC isn't only about criticizing trans ppl. There are posts on here about marriage, gender stereotypes, ... I can support trans ppl and still be against gender stereotypes and in favor of cis women to have their own spaces sometimes. I didn't agree with drop the T, right wing LGBT, true lesbians and all that stuff, but I deplore any censorship. Reddit is deeply misogynistic

I agree with Buck Angel on most points, but I don't consider myself a TRA, but a feminist and LGBT and pro LGBT woman. Do you really think I'm allowed on r/lgbt, r/bisexual and all that stuff after I posted some of my controversial opinions (not even about trans ppl)?

I will not use the term "terf" in the future tho, and I'm sorry if it hurt you or anyone on here, even if I don't consider that being a trans rights activist or a trans exclusionary radical feminist are bad things. I respect radfems and some of them are entitled to exclude trans women from their vision of feminism if they want to imo.

Also, if there are no ppl like me there is no point in having a GCdebateQT sub lmao. Considering that I got upvoted, I'm probably not the only "terfy TRA" here

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T09:05:38+00:00

I know that my 2 fav subs truebisexuals and febfems are on discord... But I really can't bring myself to use it lmaoo

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T08:03:54+00:00

Lmaooo wtf

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T07:58:07+00:00

MRA take over soon

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T07:57:31+00:00

Discord is notoriously furries land lmao

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T07:55:52+00:00

It used to be normal ?

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T07:19:45+00:00

Yeah, let's rejoice such methods are used here 🙄 thought this community was above TRA's childish digging up

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T06:45:14+00:00

They're not mutually exclusive. Everything isn't black and white you know. There are nuances about this, and I thought you girls were better than TRA who only allow one opinion. Many ppl aren't either a "terf" nor a TRA... You can support trans ppl and not want them to be assaulted/treated like shit, and still criticize some parts of the trans community. I ended up on GC spaces for being banned from most LGBT and feminist subs for my opinions btw, so I ain't a "double agent" or whatever your comment implies. I just completely dislike echo chambers when nuances totally disappeared from debates. Going through ppl's post history are literally TRA methods btw 🙄

Being critical of gender is not only about trans ppl you know. I could be a TRA (even if I'm very far from it, and a lot of them dislike me) and still participate in the threads that criticize marriage, gender stereotypes, ... I'm glad that most girls are nice and don't try to force their opinions on me tho

Wrencer · 2020-07-16T06:40:44+00:00

Nah, I support most trans ppl but I was never a "TRA" and I'm allowed to criticize some parts of the trans movement I disagree with. There are nuances in this whole debate lol I don't agree with some stuff on here either, but some threads are interesting, and I like knowing the 2 sides of the debate. My sub got banned for "transphobia" btw. I thought GC spaces allowed debates and slightly dissenting opinions, unlike regular feminist spaces. At least it was like that on r/truebisexuals. Also, kinda funny you of all ppl attacked me, since you were often participating on my sub. Did I disagree with most of the opinions you posted ? Yes. Did I ever censor you for having such opinions ? No. Going through my post history is kinda a TRA's thing to do btw, and I'm a bit disappointed by you tbh, thought you were kind and tolerant of other points of view. You know damn well that I'm "moderate" on the trans question. Why do you think I was on r/uncensoredLGBT ? Because my criticizing of trans ppl among other opinions on some of my posts got me banned from most spaces. I don't criticize ppl on here's opinions, but I'm allowed to participate in threads I found interesting without being totally on board with the majority. Am I still allowed to have nuances in my opinions, or do you want this to turn into a reverse TRA echo chamber?

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T22:38:45+00:00

TRA seem to spend all their lives online, so I wouldn't be surprised if some ended up being Reddit's top mods.

The gloating post on AHS about the last banwave was strangely by an user who also happens to be a mod at one of the biggest subreddits...

Also, have you noticed how so many trans women on reddit are talking about radfems' "misandry" ? And saying that feminists are hateful "misandrist bigots"? Guess they're still a bit male after all /s

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T22:35:41+00:00

I'm 25 and I used to delude myself into thinking that happiness could only be achieved through marriage. Now that I've realized how free to do anything I am, without making my life revolve around couple, I feel liberated tbh

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T22:32:09+00:00

The comments about "arophobia" make it difficult to actually take them seriously tbh

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T22:17:19+00:00

I don't see the point of that sub. It's like another AHS echo chamber. How many more safe spaces could TRA possibly need ?

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T22:15:42+00:00

That sub is an hellhole. It's like they're bots just complimenting each other.

And spoiler, it was created by the trans women mods of r/actuallesbians, aka the woke ™ police who is entitled to go through your post history to dig up stuff and send you "terfs" messages

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T17:01:50+00:00

That twitter account was a wild ride

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:56:22+00:00

Most ppl who support trans women unconditionally (like I used to do) never took the time to actually go read about the implications of "unconditional support"

We can support while still being critical of some aspects, but the nuances are completely lost on them. You're either a believer or a terf

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:53:23+00:00

It's not just trans ppl. It's the LGBT community at large (speaking as a bi woman)

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:51:37+00:00

Basically, like a fellow redditor told me on r/ActuallyLesbian, even if you argue in good faith with them, don't say anything remotely transphobic, and try to compromise, they will still hate you because you don't 100% agree with the cult. So I stopped trying.

I was 100% a trans ally, and some overzealous TRA brought me to GC. They don't want allys, they want brainless sheeps without opinions or debate nuances.

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:46:56+00:00

Funny also how when a trans woman happens to be a good artist, there are always reactions like "she's so talented, ofc she's trans"

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:39:28+00:00

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:36:39+00:00

Many trans ppl are against the "transmaxxing" crowd. They even call them "transcells". We had one invading our sub and all the trans ppl members were against him

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:33:40+00:00

I want y'all to keep your space, but at the same time, if AGB gets banned, gay men are gonna riot on twitter, and understand that the whole LGBT community is getting censored, not just the radfem crowd

I think that many gay dudes on reddit don't feel comfortable on r/lgbt because they don't like being treated like "uwu special snowflakes"

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:31:37+00:00

I think he does, therefore he's the enemy for them. Same for Blaire White, for saying that she remains "biologically male"

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T12:27:04+00:00

TRA says that "no trans ppl actually said that ppl have to take their girldicks, it's just 4chan trolls and terf myths" then proceeds to explain how genitalia preferences are transphobic : https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/hq7ged/comment/fxwpw2q

Have you guys found the one comment at the bottom with 60 upvotes that says that genitalia shouldn't matter and that you basically have to force yourself to engage in sexual activities with them since there are many "alternative ways to have sex"?

It's also funny how someone acknowledged that that attitude might reminds lesbians of straight men saying that "they need to be dicked down" yet it is quickly brushed off 🤔

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T11:02:02+00:00

"Feminism is okay, but only our version of feminism, and if it panders to men. Otherwise, you're a misandrist terf who doesn't belong here. Anyway, you should use the word egalitarian, not feminist"

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T11:00:35+00:00

r/feminism is run by men

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:59:10+00:00

About time ppl start protesting, all I see is gloating about the bans and redditors saying that radical feminism is toxic.

Hell, a mod on AskFeminists even said that radical feminism is toxic now because it "doesn't embrace intersectionality"

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:56:51+00:00

That's when the petitions and reddit boycott appeals will happen

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:55:25+00:00

Ah, what happened to "we don't force anyone to have sex with us"? Why does this person try to guilt others by suggesting "alternatives"?

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:52:45+00:00

What is the AHS crowd gonna do once they have gotten rid of any "wrongthink"?

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:51:41+00:00

Except that gay men will never let trans men rule their spaces lol

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:26:59+00:00

"Submissive plural trans lesbian furry artist toy collector" lmaooo

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:12:54+00:00

They totally do

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:11:22+00:00

Also, how they say "you can't get banned for saying sex is real and that you don't want girldick, you must have said sth real offensive that you're not telling us" except that no, I've only said that, and yes, there are ppl out there denying that sex is real and saying that lesbians are "genitalia fetishists" for not wanting to suck dick. They say our preferences are okay, and that ppl forcing us to date trans ppl don't exist, yet they always manage to make us guilty of transphobia for saying that at the end

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:08:17+00:00

"We don't force anyone to date trans ppl, yet I'm gonna ask you to justify precisely why you refuse to date trans women, and I will shame you til you accept to see how your preference is rooted in transphobia"

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:05:50+00:00

Some TRA are starting to spread the idea that using the term "femboy" (very popular on gay dudes reddit) is transphobic, or that having "femboy" characters in comics is transphobic, because they could have made them trans women instead of gender non conforming boys

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:03:56+00:00

Yeah, I think it was because I posted on r/truebisexuals (more debate inclined than r/bisexual). They don't even care to see the WHY. Some ppl go to subs they disagree with to debate also

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T10:00:23+00:00

Imagine altering your body with surgery and hormones just for "shits and giggles"

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T09:56:42+00:00

Don't you know about "transmaxxing"? They're incels who become trans women just to get some left lib lesbian action.

Yesterday, someone commented : "we need to protect women from the cis men who pretend to be trans" and a TRA quickly shut them down by saying : "That simply doesn't exist". Way to go to debate

Wrencer · 2020-07-15T09:55:31+00:00

No way this is real. Plz tell me this isn't real

Wrencer · 2020-07-14T17:19:52+00:00

I believed that, then I heard about forcing girldick on lesbians lol

Wrencer · 2020-07-14T17:19:01+00:00

I honestly have no idea. I participate a lot in LGBT discussions, and I used to be a mod before my sub got banned

Wrencer · 2020-07-14T17:17:12+00:00

But gatekeeping is necessary to some extent ? Going on hormones and surgery are life changing decisions that NEED gatekeeping

Wrencer · 2020-07-14T17:16:03+00:00

Yeah, like, what happened to gender non conforming ?

Wrencer · 2020-07-14T17:15:05+00:00

Yeah, what's the point in supporting them now anyway ?

Wrencer · 2020-07-14T17:14:02+00:00

Lmaooo they don't like Buck ??

Wrencer · 2020-07-14T17:12:59+00:00

Same here. They're already suffering enough

Wrencer