Blair White shows off his custom-built "Barbie Pink" GUN & gets 24K Likes

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[–]our_team_is_winning 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Blaire is trying to score "girls with guns" points -- ticks me off. When you shoot, you get gunpowder on you. It takes pumice to get it off. No woman wants gunpowder on her breasts. All these pornified pix of young busty women with their breasts nearly bare holding guns -- those are images you find on sites for men. They do not respect women who can shoot or women who want to protect themselves (against a male home invader and potential rapist) with a gun. They want to see Playboy Bunny types, scantily clad, holding weapons. I am not a gay man, so I do not understand this gay man's tactic. I guess he wants to appeal to straight men by trying to role play the female porn fantasy, but he's not actually a woman, so he's going to fail at that if the straight men take a closer look. If he's trying to appeal to gay men, I can't imagine the pornified image of a woman turns them on. I wish Blaire would drop the porn bimbo act. He's heavily involved in #WalkAway so it's possible his likes are from people who think that's a pro-Second Amendment post. I see it as Pornified Bimbo image gun-porn myself. Yuck.

[–]ShieldMaiden 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Blaire (né Robbie) has talked about how his gay boyfriend is actually not gay and how traps aren't gay (he made a video about it, apparently)… so yeah, I think he's a TiM who really likes the idea that straight men, not chasers, might be into him. Sadly for him, that's not possible. Only bi and gay guys go for TiMs, no straight man will because that would by definition make him not straight. Oh well. Anyway, I think that's why he bimbo-ifies/pornifies himself, he likes the idea of appealing to straight men.

[–]NDG 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I’ve watched 90%+ of Blaire’s videos. There’s one where Blaire says that being into MtF people “isn’t the gayest thing ever...but it’s not the straightest thing ever.” I’ve always thought Blaire and Joey seem really candid and realistic about their relationship.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They really aren't though. See at the end of the day MTF are just men. They're not women, they're not even a subset of women. If Blaire was actually being honest, he wouldn't be saying that Joey is straight because he isn't. Just because he dated women before he got with Blaire doesn't mean shit, he's dating a man now and it's not a straight relationship. If Blaire was honest, he'd just say that Joey is a bisexual and be done with it. I mean it's just like that stupid situation with Jeffree Star and how he was "dating a straight boy" (That Nate guiy) and it's like are you fucking serious? IF you're a man dating another man, it's a gay relationship. Doesn't matter if the man wears makeup and long wigs and fake acrylic nails with high heels, it's still a man lol.

[–]MezozoicGay 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

he's dating a man

And pre-op one. So there even more questionmarks when he is saying he is straight.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pre-Op or Post-Op, doesn't really matter, still a man at the end of the day but I get what you mean and it makes it all the more funny and delusional.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Another funny thing about that video you're talking about where he says that Joey isn't gay. There was a part in the video where Blaire asks him if he's ever been and I quote, "Attracted to guys like yourself" aka attracted to masculine presenting men (hairy, masculine-ish, etc.). Obviously he said "No" and as soon as he did, Blaire promptly moved onto another question unrelated to it but the thing I find particularly funny is isn't it ironic how Blaire didn't follow up the question by asking if he had ever found effeminate men attractive? Aka men who do not present masculine in any way or don't conform to masculinity? Sorry it was just obvious that Blaire knew if he asked him that and joey would say what we were all thinking, it would shatter this delusion that Joey is actually a straight man. Never mind the fact that Joey has worked closely with Drag Queens and how he even admitted in that same video to another question where he did have a crush on another boy who he thought was a girl when he was younger because this boy had long hair and was of a smaller build. So yeah no, Blaire was just being a disingenuous twit as per usual in his videos.

But anyway you're right, he pornofies/bimbofies himself because he likes to think he's attracted straight men by doing this and when he gets comments like "You look so much better than real women" feeds his ego even more.

[–]BEB[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does anyone think that the epidemic of violence, sexual assault and femicide in Africa is because these women used female pronouns?

Violence against women: Africa's shadow pandemic "The United Nations has called it the "shadow pandemic". Violence, sexual assault and femicide have all increased in the past months across Africa and the globe. The reasons of the spike are closely related to the coronavirus pandemic. More sexual violence

Liberia recorded a 50% increase in gender-based violence in the first half of this year. Between January and June, there were more than 600 reported rape cases. The number for the whole of 2018 was 803 in the West African country.

Nigeria also saw an increase of sexual violence during the curfews. Two cases in June, in which young women were raped and killed, shocked the country. In Kenya, local media reported almost 4,000 schoolgirls becoming pregnant when schools were closed during the lockdown. In most cases they had allegedly been raped by relatives or police officers.

The UN's MINUSCA mission in the Central African Republic reported another increase: 27% more instances of rape, and 69% more cases where women and children were hurt..."

https://www.dw.com/en/africa-pandemic-violence-rape-women/a-55174136

[–]MezozoicGay 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

In our army there were few guys with pink ak-47 (stylized with Kitty), so it is normal for boys to play with pink guns!

[–]WrongToy 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

i have respect for bw because they did this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnhnShhxfhQ&t=1230s

[–]BEB[S] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Here's White's own Tweet. The responses (1.3K!) make me very depressed. Especially the ones that refer to him as "her."

I don't know anything about him, but just looking at his Twitter it seems as if he took Kim Kardashian as a role model of womanhood rather than the precautionary tale that most of us real women take her. #SAD

https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/1312811402969731077

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thread on this sub about Blaire from a couple of days ago started by Kai, a young gay male whose views I very much appreciate: https://saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/6k63/how_do_you_all_feel_about_blaire_white/

[–]AppleTapple 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (38 children)

Calling Blaire White a "he" is disrespectful af. What does this even have to do with GC? You're blatantly making fun of people.

[–]BEB[S] 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

He is a man.

[–]AppleTapple 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (30 children)

Yeah, biologically. But you wouldn't call her a man in public. Misgendering and deadnaming trans people isn't helping anyone.

[–]BEB[S] 37 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 0 fun38 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I would. I have been on this Earth for a long time, and have been stalked, harassed, assaulted, openly denied jobs and grades, was not allowed to take "male" classes before Title IX - and this was not because I used womanly pronouns.

I volunteered with women in distress in other countries - their oppression wasn't based on their pronouns, much less their gender identity.

My oppression, my mother's and grandmother's oppression, the Yazidi and Nigerian women forced into sexual slavery's oppression, would not have changed had we said that we are actually men.

We could identify as men all we wanted and that would not have had any affect on what men and society did to us because we are women.

So Blair White has no right to APPROPRIATE my oppression, nor the words used to describe me, because when we are forced to talk about "her penis" (no idea if White has one, but 89% of American TiMs keep their male genitalia) more than half the battle to retain our rights is lost.

BTW: In the state of California, a care worker can go to jail for "misgendering" - so this whole pronoun thing isn't about being polite, it's about compelled speech in order to compel us to deny reality, and that too, pisses me off.

[–]lefterfield 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fucking right on. This was beautifully said.

[–]BEB[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. I don't even know how we got to this place. Nor do I know why so many women, well, the few who are in the know about how gendxr demands conflict with women's rights, play along.

It's like the McCarthyism of the US Red Scare, but instead it's directed at biology and basic common sense. Instead of, "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist party?" It's now "Do you think, or have you ever thought, that biological sex exists?"

I'm heartened by British GC Twitter, because now those ladies roam Twitter seemingly in packs, pouncing on anyone who spouts gendxr nonsense, and I think that they're making a difference. Americans- let's take on Twitter too!

[–]our_team_is_winning 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

her penis" (no idea if White has one,

I think it's his video about moving to Texas where he says he plans to have the full surgery soon.

And yes, do not COMPEL me to lie. "Call this man SHE" -- no! "He says he's a she, you call him SHE now!!!!" NO!

[–]BEB[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have a visceral reaction to the pronoun thing.

I think it's because in my youth, US women were still lacking in legal rights to things such as credit, and I wasn't allowed to take SHOP because it was a boy's class.

I didn't choose to be a woman. I have had horrible things happen to me because I was a woman. I have missed many opportunities because I'm a woman.

I have been in countries where women live in constant fear and countries where women have very few rights, and it wasn't because of their fucking pronouns.

As others have noted, give trans activists an inch and they take the whole world. "I JUST WANNA PEE" has become the Equality Act, with American women sleepwalking into their own rights' destruction by the "Progressive" party.

[–]Kai_Decadence 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's his video about moving to Texas where he says he plans to have the full surgery soon.

Personally I would take that with a pinch of salt. He's not going to go through with it, trust me. He's said he wanted to get SRS before in 2016 and again in 2018 and never did it. And the reason why I know he's lying is just look at his track record where he lied about all kinds of stuff. The latest one before he lied about that Trans Athlete that's currently blowing up in his face, he said that he was "de-transitioning" for 6 months so he could try to produce sperm for invitro fertilization and he said he'd make update videos every few weeks. Never happened. And it's clear he didn't stop taking his hormones.

So all I'm saying is don't believe everything he says, it's just for attention and shock factor lol.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

we are forced to talk about "her penis" (no idea if White has one, but 89% of American TiMs keep their male genitalia

He still has it and mark my words, he will not get rid of it. Even if he did, it wouldn't make him a woman, just a man with mangled penis but just thought I'd clarify. He has said that he wanted to get SRS like 3 times so far in the last 4 years but it's clearly just for attention.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They have an open wound when they remove their penises, that they have to stick a dialator in for life, so I don't actually blame them. Plus so many TiMs like to use their penises. Which proves that they're just LARPing as women.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh for sure about the larping. But the penis isn't necessarily cut completely off, it's shoved back inside and oh my god I would not recommend watching how that's done. I finally got around to it and it was horrifying. Same with how they make a phalloplasty for women, horrific Frankenstein-esq act going on with those surgeries. And it put things even more in perspective of why when they finally see that they did fuck up their bodies and can't fix their genitals, the depression/suicide rates goes up even more.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

IMO If people knew what the "gender confirmation" surgeries actually entailed, support for the transitioning of anyone, but especially children, would be near zero.

[–]Kai_Decadence 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think you're right. Like I mean to be fair even before I saw that SRS surgery video, I was already against it for children in general but now after seeing it, I don't think ANYONE should be having it because of all the complications that can happen from it. Like in that same video, they also showed what happened when the complications start and what they have to do to manage it. Just nasty.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But if a person had TRUE gender dysphoria and hated the appearance of their body as its birth sex, they would brave it, so in a sense, whether a trans has surgery is the test.

[–]WrongToy 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She is free to call Blaire a biological male if she feels like it and use whatever pronoun she wishes.

We're not here for trans-apologetics.

[–]MarkTwainiac 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Calling Blaire White a "he" is disrespectful af

But you wouldn't call her a man in public.

I would. And I so so now. I'm with BEB on this 1000%.

BTW, I think Blaire White's pretense of being a woman, and his drag and porn-inspired interpretation of being a woman, are "disrespectful af" as well as harmful to girls and women and to other gay men like Blaire.

You coming here and telling actual women with decades of experience fighting for women's rights, and gay and lesbian rights, that we're not allowed to refer to men as men if those men are pretending to be women is a perfect illustration of the misogynistic authoritarianism of GITs (gender ideology tyrants).

What does this even have to do with GC?

You clearly have no idea of what "gender critical" means.

[–]AppleTapple 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

What do you mean by "porn-inspired?" You can call transgender people whatever you want, I'm just pointing out that it's rude and doesn't help people feel comfortable engaging in GC at all. I can't see how showing a picture of a transwoman with a gun has anything to do with GC. How is Blaire White affecting women and gay men by wearing what she wants? As an "actual woman," I don't see the problem here.

[–]MarkTwainiac 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I didn't say just porn-inspired. I said Blaire White's interpretation of being a woman is drag and porn-inspired. And that's what I meant.

Blaire White's idea of women comes from him viewing with his male gaze male fantasies of (young) women who've been sexually objectified by males for male sexual pleasure. BW's portrayal of a woman is in service of regressive sexist and ageist stereotypes and male supremacy.

Blaire W's entirely superficial, looks-based ideas of being a woman do not come from familiarity with, or sensitivity to, real-life girls and women. Nor do his ideas of being a woman have any connection at all to what living in a female body means for the majority of 51% of the world's population.

it's rude and doesn't help people feel comfortable engaging in GC at all

I think it's rude when white people dress as Native Americans or in blackface, and this causes me to feel uncomfortable. I see no reason why women have an obligation to be deferential, respectful and coddling of males who try to appropriate being female so they can lower themselves into a bath of lower-caste oppression in order to puff themselves up, get their rocks off or deal with their internalized homophobia and issues with conventional definitions of masculinity that they and other men have come up with in the first place.

How is Blaire White affecting women and gay men by wearing what she wants?

BW isn't just wearing what he wants. BW is a gay man with internalized homophobia and fully intact male genitalia who makes the claim that because he wears what he wants - and has gotten the cosmetic surgeries and body mods he wants, and he mimics lots of drag-queen mannerisms (hair flicking, the clicking of fake fingernails, hand-waving and head-titling and so on) - this somehow makes him a woman. This is a stance/coping mechanism that is inherently misogynistic, male supremacist and homophobic all at once. If you can't see that, that's your problem - not mine.

I'm all for men and women wearing what they want. I'm a longtime backer of "gender benders" like Patti Smith, Jobiath, Marc Bolan, Brian Eno, Marilyn Peter Robinson, Annie Lennox, Grace Jones, and all the rest from the 70s, 80s and 90s. I was one myself, and still am.

I also was very involved in advocacy for, and hands-on care of, a number of "feminine-presenting" gay men rejected by their families and society at large during the AIDS crisis of the 80s and 90s. But none of those guys made the claim that because they didn't conform to conventional codes of masculinity they were somehow women and therefore women and girls should be forced to welcome them into our loos, and accept that it's just our lot in life to have to put up with men leering, wagging their dicks, spying and assaulting us in change rooms, hospital wards, shelters, rape refuges, prisons and care homes.

BW uses facilities that are supposed to be female-only such as ladies loos, locker rooms and change rooms. Without the consent of girls and women. He's not just an appropriator, he's an interloper, invader and colonizer. BW never asked girls and women if we felt comfortable with him and his dick in our spaces.

You asked earlier

What does this even have to do with GC?

And now you say

I don't see the problem here

That's on you.

[–]MezozoicGay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not just that, he is a youtuber with decently big subscriber base, so he is not just doing all this things, but spreading them out. Of course he is not as radical in gender theory beliefs as other transwomen youtubers, but this only makes him "lesser evil". Actually, I think BW could maybe not even be offended much if you call him "he", or at least he said that in one of his videos (as he accepting he is still a male, not female, like some people "I am woman in documents, and woman is adult human female, so my dick is female biology").

I still remember ContraPoints - when Contra was gender non-conforming man, he had a lot of support from GC. However, when he removed all his old videos and became "transwoman", he lost all GC support and was opposed by them.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's just obvious what Blaire's end game is or rather was because he thinks that if he acts so agreeable to a certian extent, it'll make people think he is truly trans when he's just as ridiculous as the AGPs, just in a different way where he thinks mimicking pornographic version of womanhood is what makes him more of a woman than rougher looks trans-identified men he rails about. Seriously why in most of his thumbnails does he have that dead-eyed, half-open mout with shiny lips expression that just looks like you're turning on a softcore porn flick or most of his outfits consist of scantily clad pieces that show off his chest implants or very short dresses.

Blaire what can say he knows he's a male all day but the fact that he still tries to subtly imply that he is a woman (Because "Transwoman" implies they are a subset of women when we know that isn't true). Like why can't he just do all he does and call himself a man? And I think he actually does get bothered when people call him by male pronouns. In the Candace Owens "debate" he did when she stated that what they were having was not a "cat fight" and that he's a "grown adult man" , if you look at Blaire's facial expression and body expression, you could just tell he got a bit bothered. I just think it happens if he gets called it from women who don't look particularly masculine presenting.

[–]MezozoicGay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

(Because "Transwoman" implies they are a subset of women when we know that isn't true)

"Transwoman" is not putting it is as subset of women, but a new entity.

However, as they are saying it "trans woman" - is putting it as a subset of women.

Like why can't he just do all he does and call himself a man?

Then there will be less oppression points and viewers!

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Transwoman" is not putting it is as subset of women, but a new entity.

If it's not meant to be seen as a subset of women then why is "woman/women" in the name? Woman only ever meant one thing. Woman: Adult human FEMALE.

So I mean... I think it's just obvious that they're implying that otherwise "woman/woman" would not be in the name at all.

Then there will be less oppression points and viewers!

Bingo. Though don't forget attention which even thrn I still he would still get attention, just from the usual closet cases who watch his videos.

[–]AppleTapple 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How do you know that Blaire White's image of a woman is from the sexual objectification of young girls? Blackface has nothing to do with transgender people. We do not 'dress up' and make fun of an entire group of people. Women do not have to be coddling or respectful to males who are claiming to be trans for fetishistic purposes or oppression points. That's something I agree with GC on respectively. I don't want women to be shut out of their own spaces and voices because of the trans movement. And I don't want LGB to be pushed back any more than it has been because of the T. Blaire White actually did a video where she went into the men's bathroom and was shunned out of it. I'm sure if Blaire White wasn't cis-passing in the slightest she wouldn't have put any sort of pressure on women into accepting her into any space at all. I'm not cis-passing and I do not use the men's bathroom because I know I don't pass and I know it's stupid. But I'm not going to use the women's bathroom when I have a mustache or call myself a lesbian when I clearly do not look like one.

[–]missdaisycan 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Let me guess, you're going to state that TW are never so rude to women. (cough TERFisaslur) (cough cough. Woman costume so pretty!). Woman is NOT a costume; we're people! Adult Human Female. That's what it has to do with GC.

[–]AppleTapple 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

No, there are transwomen that are very much rude to women. Being trans isn't putting up a costume for Halloween, fam. I still don't see why a transwoman posing for a photo has to do with anything. It bothers me because to me it looks like- making fun of someone just because they're trans.

[–]Kai_Decadence 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honey you're not gonna win this. Reading your comments, you sound fairly young and it's understandable but seriously use critical thinking for just a minute. The other women were making great points and believe me, as a feminine gay man myself, even I can see that it's clear that Blaire thinks that by dressing like a blow up doll, it's purely just for the attention of men. He doesn't "act" like a woman. Woman & Womanhood is not an act, it's a biological reality but if we're really gonna go there I'm just gonna say it, he acts like a flamboyant drag queen with his mannerisms. No woman I have ever met (who was not obsessed with Drag Culture) acts like he does. If you haven't already, I highly recommend watching some Drag Queen videos on YouTube and actually observe how they act and when you do, it'll be clear what we mean.

And people here are not making fun of Blaire because he's an effeminate, flamboyant, gay man, they're making fun of him because he thinks that acting the way he does makes him a woman, it's the delusion that we find funny.

[–]AppleTapple 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not childish to point out that this post and the commenters are deliberately mocking someone because they're trans. I don't understand the delusion you keep talking about. Blaire White is very aware that she's not a real woman. That's literally the whole point of being trans. I'm not trying to win anything, I'm just here to point out bullying when I see it. I try to understand GC, but all I see is regurgitated homophobia.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Blaire White is very aware that she's not a real woman

If he knew that, he wouldn't have a problem calling himself a man. Just a man who likes to look the way he does. That's the joke. And no it's not homophobia lol. Feminine gay man here, never once was treated horribly by any Gender Critical feminist but that's because the difference between me and Blaire is that I don't think my being interested in feminine makes me a woman or a subset of woman whereas he thinks otherwise even if he doesn't outright say it.

[–]assignedcopatbirth 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To me it applies to GC because Blaire made a point the gun was "Barbie Pink" which made me roll my eyes. Paying extra to make your death machine "the official girl colour teehee" shows how dedicated Blaire is to this bimbo character as her "female identity".

I see you're new here so my suggestion is to take posts here as they are: written by a variety of individuals with a wide array of views, interpretations of what GC means, and beliefs about what trans people want or are like as a group. Many are rightfully angry and come here to vent.

We have our own shorthand so as a newcomer I can see why it's confusing to see a post like this and think "they're not even talking about philosophy, they're just nitpicking trans people" when we're not spelling out our point in the OP.

I'd say try to lurk and read the back catalogue of a variety of posters before deciding what the whole sub is like. And if it's too harsh for you, try Ovarit lol

[–]blackrainbow 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

She is also a reasonable trans person, no need to be rude with her. I dissent with other GC people here and I'm fine using female pronouns.

[–]macaron 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First it was pronouns and then it was everything else. If transwomen and the people who say they speak for them respected our boundries, we'd be okay with it. But you've shown yourselves to be abusive, people who will do anything to shut women up. Telling women and their familes to die is disrepectful as fuck, sending rape threats, telling people to punch 'terfs' and calling for other such violence is absolutely appalling.

Police your own community before coming here.

[–]alttrawl 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Blair White has come out and said they don't care what pronouns people use but would prefer to be called she/her. You're trying to tone-police women in a space where we're already aware that the language we use to describe ourselves is under attack. Some GC women will say she/her, and others won't because ask for she/her and next thing you know TWAW in every way and you get a visit from the police for misgendering hate speech. You mentioned you are trans elsewhere so I get that you're invested in pronouns, but I respectfully disagree.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We don't practice that religion here. We believe science, not gender.

If you believe in god but I say I don't, that's not making fun of you. It's just me being true to my beliefs.

[–]LasagnaRossa 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly that.

Respect is keeping your mouth closed when your religious friend swears they have talked with God last night. But you're not owed them faith just because. If you think it's bullshit you're free to think and say that in appropriate contexts.

In this case, it's an appropriate context since Blair isn't here and we are all chatting.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you even know what sub you' re on? We consider gender identity bullshit and trans people' s claim to be their preferred sex or gender completely idiotic, why exactly should we play along with a practice (preferred pronouns) that goes completely against our beliefs? Especially one that is being force-fed on everyone and we are very vocal about opposing. WHy should we care about being desrespectful? I have zero respect for any man who calls himself a woman and asks to be referred as one through labels and pronouns, so I guess it' s coherent with my general opinion.

Also, on what basis should we call a man a "she"? The fact that he asked because it makes him feel better? In that case, it' s a man asking women to perform emotional labour for him. Because he presents as a woman? Looking like a woman doesn' t make you a woman, and the fact that he is re-enacting a very common porn fantasy for men means that he is willingly using a certain set of social roles and stereotypes to define his "womanhood". By calling him a woman we would be indirectly implying that womanhood is indeed about those roles and stereotypes. Because it' s the nice thing to do? Women have been told to be nice since the beginning of time, especially if it benefits men. Those are all GC and radical feminist themes.

[–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As one man said: "if you want us to respect you, you should first come with respect to us".

This is very applicable in this situation.

[–]kalina 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's so interesting to me that many people seem to regard Blaire as one of the few 'passing' and rational trans women. All I see when I look at Blaire is a very effeminate gay man, a drag queen at best and someone offensively doing a caricature of femininity at worst. I absolutely cannot stand him.