The Saidit.net Terms and Content Policy

submitted by magnora7 from self.SaidIt

Values

This is the Pyramid of Debate. It represents the core value of this website:

If a person is caught repeatedly dragging discussion in a downward direction on the Pyramid of Debate, they will be removed. If a person is caught repeatedly dragging the quality of discourse in an upward direction, they're highly valued!

When voting content as insightful and/or fun (and please do, as much as possible!) think of the Pyramid of Debate and if the person you're voting on is moving discussion in an upward or downward direction on the pyramid.

When commenting or posting, think of the Pyramid of Debate, and if you are raising the level or lowering it.

If we each take the Pyramid of Debate seriously, we can have a great website for exploring new ideas and having respectful, rational, conversations with other people. You can do your part by voting, commenting, and posting, to help move the culture at Saidit in a good direction.

Privacy

We do not share your data with anyone, nor do we have any intent to aggregate data with the purpose of selling it, unlike many social media companies. We don't gather data that we don't need to run the site.

What's Not Allowed

  1. Vending of illegal items and research chemicals are not allowed. Nor is discussion of vendors regarding illegal items, links to vendors buying/selling illegal items, or links to pages with links of vendors of illegal items. Subs and users caught buying or selling illegal items, or discussing such, will be removed. US law and Texas law apply to saidit servers.

  2. No pornography. Not because we are against it, per se, but it's more about the legal troubles associated with housing this type of content. It's better for the longevity and quality and legal safety of the site not to have it here. There's plenty of porn on reddit and voat and around the rest of the internet, so go there instead if you're interested in that type of content.

  3. Do not upvote yourself (or others) using alternate username accounts. This is considered astroturfing and will result in a ban.

Making A New Sub

Users can only create sub after their account is 2 weeks old, and may only create one sub per week after that. The button will appear below the submit link buttons when it is unlocked.

Open Source

The original open-source code that makes the foundation for this site is copyright 2006-2015 reddit Inc., all rights reserved. Read more at: http://code.reddit.com Powered by reddit and Aaron Swartz's code.

The current open-source code for Saidit is available here: https://github.com/libertysoft3/reddit-ae

Thank you and enjoy the site!

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[–]Gimmethatcandy 10 insightful - 10 fun10 insightful - 9 fun11 insightful - 10 fun -  (3 children)

I saw this about a week ago and wasn’t sure if I was either just lacking sleep and seeing things, or running into a honeypot. I’m glad neither, because I missed that old website that started with an ‘R’. The one we must not speak of lol.

[–]HoppeanAncap 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

jewdit?

[–]Froglich 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Froglich checking in.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You mean that site that went tits-up about four years ago? I've heard of it. Now you are in the right place. It is your community so make it what you want. — Not that I have any official or unofficial mandate to make decisions or proclamations for this site.

[–]cat-gun 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What about controversial topics? For example, /r/hookers on Reddit was banned, even though no porn was allowed. Would a forum like that be allowed here?

I didn't post much in /r/hookers, but I do post in /r/sexworkers, which is still up for the time being. I'd like to direct /r/sexworkers here, out of fear that reddit will ban them too at some point. I'd also like to revive /r/hookers (which was more on the client side, than the provider side).

The topics here will give you an idea of the likely content of both forums:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

[–]magnora7[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Basically, as long as it's not going to cause legal trouble to saidit, it's fine

[–]cat-gun 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks! The problem is that it's hard to say whether it will cause legal trouble. Congress recently passed regulations called FOSTA/SESTA which create an exception to Section 230 that means website publishers would be responsible if third parties are found to be posting ads for prostitution — including consensual sex work — on their platforms. You can read more about it here:

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/4/13/17172762/fosta-sesta-backpage-230-internet-freedom

Reddit closed a bunch of sex work related subreddits as a result, although they weren't especially consistent about it. They closed /r/hookers and /r/escorts, but /r/sexworkers and /r/sexworkersonly are still up. However, none of them allowed advertising. (In my opinion, Reddit closed /r/hookers and /r/escorts because they emphasized the client side, whereas /r/sexworkers /r/sexworkersonly emphasize the provider side).

IMHO, FOSTA/SESTA will eventually be struck down in the courts as an unconstitutional infringement on the first amendment. However, it may take a while for that to play out in the courts. Until then, there's legal uncertainty around the issue.

[–]Troll 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Interestingly, /r/asktransgender probably still has dudes giving hormone pills to minors.

[–]yoyohammerbro 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thats messed up

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't intend on breaking the rules for any particular reason, for good, bad, or mischievous giggles, but I am curious about the process and what happens. I would expect that terrible stuff (porn, child porn, drug sales, gun sales, etc) would be deleted upon discovery, logically. But what about the grey area. Do folks get to re-edit their work, discussions and debates occur, warnings given, strikes, limits, etc?

I'm new to voting forums so I'm reading up here and elsewheres.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We give warnings unless you're doing something obviously bad. Odds are you'll never interact with this system.

[–]Caveman_in_a_suit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for this, nice work

[–]zapper 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can I make random comments in random threads that make little or no sense? ;)

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As long as you are at least trying to make them make sense ;)

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    [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Glad you like it! Nice to hear feedback

    [–]Fren 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Ur gay lol ban me

    [–]newbieforever2016 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I get an error trying to create an account

    [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It works for me, you might be trying to do it too fast, since you already have an account

    [–]newbieforever2016 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It did work but gave me an error message making me suspect that it did not. Thanks

    [–]starchturrets 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    What's your policy on doxxing and death threats?

    [–]d3rr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I think we should post the sub creation restrictions somewhere... multiple people have asked about it.

    [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's already at the bottom of this: https://saidit.net/r/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

    [–]d3rr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    i see! sweet.

    [–]cat-gun 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Also, do you have a mechanism for importing a sub-reddit into said-it?

    [–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    We've been thinking of developing something like this, that would take the top 5 posts from a subreddit for the day and post them to saidit. But I suppose we could also develop the ability to import a whole subreddit, I hadn't thought of that before.

    Is that something you would use.

    [–]cat-gun 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It would be ideal if there were a script that could regenerate a closed subreddit from Google's Bigquery:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/869s3e/archives_of_banned_subreddits/dw5gqjr/?st=jhsi6siy&sh=78de0861

    I would use it to regenerate the /r/hookers and some of the other sex work-related subreddits.

    [–]CJBrody 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I've read these rules and by no means do i feel i broke any of them I'll see you all soon

    [–]Racist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    i still dont understand about pyramid

    [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If you bring discussion up to higher levels on the pyramid, you're valued. If you consistently bring it down, then you'll get banned. Let me know if there's anything else I can clarify

    [–]cuckHunterExtreme 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    How is this site any different from reddit, if both are following US law and under it, all the things we hate reddit for are technically applicable here. Or is it just the demographic/political divide? So that the cucks and SJWs stay there and we can have a more like-minded discussions? Will this place be the same and just as targeted by all sorts of faggots if it grows and becomes simply more known to attract them?