Saidit now has over 4000 user accounts!

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T19:34:12+00:00

The two extremes being reddit (leftist, censorship) and voat (extremist right). Raddle is like reddit too. There is no silver bullet, but we are going to try our best.

Even if you don't want it to become overrun by one side, couldn't it potentially do so if a large number of users from that side dominate SaidIt, and end up defining the website's standing?

It's possible, but the ones that don't follow the pyramid of debate would be removed. And it turns out a lot of hyper-extremist people aren't usually all that good at arguing their points. This works in our favor.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T19:31:00+00:00

I've never seen a country do a faster 180 than NZ did in response to this incident.

I much preferred the reaction to the Norway mass shooter. Norway didn't change anything. And specifically said they wouldn't, because doing so would mean the shooter would have what he wants.

That's what standing up for liberty and the common man looks like, imo.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:54:13+00:00

The "create a new sub" button will appear in the top-right after your account is 2 weeks old

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:52:37+00:00

Great! Glad to hear it

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:52:27+00:00

Is it going to end up like Voat?

Nope.

We built this whole site because we hated both reddit and what voat had become. This site even used to be called antiextremes.com for that exact reason. We're dedicated to not following the path either voat nor reddit went down.

Here's what makes saidit unique: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/37r/welcome_to_saiditnet/

Welcome!

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:46:13+00:00

How can you know they won't try to make Saidit more like reddit and start campaigning for banning unsavoury opinions?

They will, and they have.

I'd rather have a small group of regulars that posts interesting stuff rather than a large group of people with a higher total of regular users with interesting stuff.

Well it's not between those two things, if that was the choice then I'd agree with you. And now that we have a lot more users, that might be the choice. But 6 months ago the choice was "have a small but interesting userbase, or have an even smaller but interesting userbase with some super pissed off people who are constantly maligning saidit on reddit".

But anyway, this is changing as we grow. We won't need to worry about this threat anymore once we reach a certain size, so I won't need to hesitate to "take out the trash".

you've got a flamewar going.

Flamewars break the pyramid of debate rule, so that's already covered.

I don't want saidit to get the reputation that Voat has

I've literally spent hundreds and hundreds of hours making this site because of how much I hate how voat has turned out. Trust me, I'm not going to let it happen.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:42:34+00:00

Here are the rules explaining exactly how free the freedom is: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

And thankfully here we won't have nearly the brigading problems for 2 reasons: 1. There is no downvote. 2. The pyramid of debate must be respected or someone will be banned.

So if one sub brigades another, and they can't downvote or shitpost, then all that's left is to rationally argue the point they want to make. So the very design of the site makes this type of malicious behavior much more difficult.

In the future we're soon releasing an iOS app in addition to our android app we already have, upgrading our backend server architecture for the sake of the site's longevity, and many other things. It's only me and one other guy working on this whole site, so be patient, but we keep improving this site more and more and don't plan to stop.

We don't plan to have a premium mode, no. But we do plan to release a site-wide cryptocurrency in about a year that can be used for tipping comments and posts that you like. But that's a ways down the road.

Let me know if you have any more questions!

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:37:46+00:00

Yeah reddit is completely out of control now. Welcome to information freedom, my friend.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:37:09+00:00

Welcome!

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:36:54+00:00

We have to be careful to distinguish between a hoax and a false flag.

Hoax = no one died, it was all actors and theater

false flag = those people definitely really died, but the event was orchestrated by agencies who influenced the killer, maybe arming him and radicalizing him, and the killer may or may not have been in on that fact that it was agencies doing this to him

It seems very very few think this was a hoax, the video makes it pretty clear it was not a hoax. But the manifesto and the way the media is reacting to the video, makes me think it is a false flag. It's just a little too perfect for those looking to expand their power. This guy mentioned basically every cultural touchstone that they want to attack. It's just a little too coincidental. I could be wrong though and he could truly have been acting alone (or with those 2 other people who where apparently arrested at the second mosque with guns and explosives in their car)

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:32:50+00:00

It's hosted in Dallas, Texas, US. But we are 100% ready to migrate to a different server in about 30 minutes if we ever run in to trouble.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:31:58+00:00

Can you try this: In the chat window, go to the hamburger menu (the 3 horizontal lines in the top-left) and then click the "saidit" server tab (the top thing on the list) then try typing connect. If it connects, then you can change back to #home from that list. That should fix it. If it doesn't, let me know.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:29:59+00:00

Yeah AUS and NZ seem to be following in the US's footsteps, just like Canada. They're just a decade or two behind, probably because of the relative economic prosperity and relative newness of the countries.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:29:01+00:00

Thanks, appreciate it. Word of mouth is our only means of getting new users, since we don't advertise

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:28:06+00:00

Well... if companies took over the government, then unfettered capitalism would be 100% taxes.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:27:45+00:00

After your account is 2 weeks old, the "create a sub" button will appear next to the "post a link" buttons. Let me know if you have any more questions!

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:27:39+00:00

After your account is 2 weeks old, the "create a sub" button will appear next to the "post a link" buttons. Let me know if you have any more questions!

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:27:18+00:00

That's just a feature of the chat, it will reset in a few days and you'll get your correct username. Sometimes this can happen from using multiple devices

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T18:26:46+00:00

Link doesn't exist anymore? What does it show?

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T06:05:20+00:00

type /connect and it will reconnect. If you have any more problems let me know. We haven't opened it up for external connection yet because it exposes our IP address and we have to build a protection for that.

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T05:29:47+00:00

Hi! You can post whatever, as long as you're not posting stuff that's illegal and will get saidit in legal trouble. Also please respect the pyramiid of debate and respect the community of saidit, and there should be no problem.

How can they brigade when there is no downvotes? I am not a fan the idea of people harassing other people, but as long as the pyramid of debate is respected, there should be no problem. If they can't downvote, and they can't go against the pyramid of debate, how else can they brigade except by arguing their point?

Here's the full limits of the site if you want to read more: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T05:25:50+00:00

I know some of the 'funny' stuff needs to be relabeled 'fun' but what else?

magnora7 · 2019-03-18T04:27:35+00:00

Nice, I was also very early in reddit, in the first 0.01% of accounts with my very old account, probably soon after you.

Seeing all you've seen on reddit over the years I'm sure you'll enjoy the freedoms we have on saidit. :)

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