Saidit now has over 4000 user accounts! (self.SaidIt)
4 days ago * by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt
For all the newcomers to saidit today, welcome! Here's what makes saidit unique (saidit.net)
5 days ago by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt
Welcome to Saidit.net! (self.SaidIt)
6 months ago * by magnora7[A] to /s/SaidIt
Voat literally praises the mass murder, repeatedly calling him a hero. 90% of voat upvotes in agreement. (voat.co)
5 days ago by magnora7 to /s/MeanwhileOnVoat
Tips & tricks to get the most out of saidit (self.SaidIt)
1 day ago * by magnora7[A] to /s/SaidIt
Resignation letter of Nowata County, Oklahoma sheriff Terry Barnett, after a judge ordered her to reopen an unsafe jail with near-lethal carbon monoxide and exposed wiring. (i.imgur.com)
2 days ago by magnora7 to /s/news
Saidit is growing - A look at the numbers (self.SaidIt)
4 months ago * by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt
With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda
[–]magnora7[A] 37 insightful - 3 fun37 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 3 fun - 1 day ago* (0 children)
Yup, I was there when voat was called whoaverse, I watched it all happen and you're absolutely right!
This is why user participation is important. This is why the pyramid of debate is important. This is why everyone who truly cares about saidit needs to voice their opinions and vote when they see something insightful or fun.
We have lots of defenses against what happened to voat, but primary among them is community.
The second thing we have going for us is no downvote. So the dedicated minority group cannot re-shape the site at large to their own desires nearly as easily. It got much worse as well after voat added restrictions where if you've been downvoted you cannot downvote others. It sped up the echo-chamber feedback-loop effect and let these extremists take over the mainstream culture of voat much more quickly. Now a dissenting voice of reason stands out like a sore thumb, and is downvoted to hell.
Saidit doesn't have these locking-out features because we don't have downvotes, and we're careful to avoid "improvements" to the algorithm that actually just speed up the feedback loop that creates an echo-chamber culture. Furthermore one group cannot brigade another, because there is no downvote, and also they must abide by the pyramid of debate or be banned from saidit. So the only remaining way to "brigade" is to argue one's point rationally.
Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, the admins actually care. This site used to be called antiextremes.com, specifically referencing avoiding the extremes of reddit (censorship) and voat (far-right). It's literally our declared mission to avoid becoming voat, even right in our original name.
The reason reddit went bad is because the admins turned a blind eye (or perhaps were paid to) while brigading and astroturfing groups took it over, subreddit by subreddit.
Voat however failed because the admins just let whoever take it over, as you pointed out. They had no ideological backbone, no pyramid of debate, no nothing. Just an empty space for anyone who has enough free time to go absolutely nuts and create their own echo chamber. And that's exactly what happened.
But at saidit, we will actually will learn from their failures and try our best to avoid them.
Fourthly, saidit has open modlogs available in any sub under the list of mods, it says "moderation log". Anyone can click it and see everything every mod has ever done. Voat and reddit hide this information for mods only. This transparency adds a LOT of accountability. No more secret user deletions and secret mod coups.
Fifthly, we're run by donations. Not advertiser revenue or big secret investors. This means we have zero incentive to get rid of certain messages to please our advertisers and investors, because we have none other than community donations. We do not plan to ever change this funding model because saidit is run for the community, not for profit.
So you can see our approach is multifaceted, and we think we have a very good chance at avoiding the fate that befell voat. It won't be easy, but I believe we can do it.
Voat literally praises the mass murder, repeatedly calling him a hero. 90% of voat upvotes in agreement. by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnVoat
[–]magnora7[S] 35 insightful - 4 fun35 insightful - 3 fun36 insightful - 3 fun36 insightful - 4 fun - 5 days ago* (0 children)
Then sane comments that call out the nonsense are downvoted:
Voat is overrun with shills, and white supremacists who can't tell they're surrounded by shills. Voat has a lot of free speech, but very little moral backbone despite all the grandstanding they do. I guess that's what happens when you let white supremecist neo-nazis literally take over your site and run it for their own benefit. They'll cheer on murder as long as the people killed have the skin color and religion they don't like.
This is why voat can't be the next reddit. This is why we had to build saidit, to give people a 3rd option, because one didn't really exist. Free information for those who aren't completely lost to extremist ideology. Which is why this site used to be called antiextremes.com back in the day
Saidit now has over 3000 registered users! (self.SaidIt)
2 months ago * by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt
Saidit.net — Feb 4, 2019 — New Rule: No upvoting yourself using alternate accounts (self.SaidIt)
1 month ago * by magnora7[A] to /s/SaidIt
Magnora 7 | Anthony Bourdain, Kate Spade, & The Suicide String Conspiracy - The Higherside Chats (thehighersidechats.com)
7 months ago by magnora7 to /s/magnora7
r/news censored story of renowned Uighur musician Abdurehim Heyit who was killed in a Chinese detention camp. OP confronted the mods, mods openly say they're catering to new Chinese owners, and OP posts a picture of this exchange that is now on the front page (reddit.com)
1 month ago by magnora7 to /s/MeanwhileOnReddit
Welcome to AntiExtremes.com (self.AntiExtremes)
1 year ago * by magnora7[M] to /s/AntiExtremes
4chan, 8chan and Voat banned in Australia by Greedeater in censorship
[–]magnora7 29 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 4 fun - 3 days ago* (0 children)
Wait, for real? Holy crap. AUS and NZ are really going for it, aren't they?
I much preferred Norway's reaction to their mass shooting: They changed nothing, and said if they did change how they operate, that means the shooter wins.
Saidit.net — Feb 13, 2019 — New Rule: Sub moderator logs are now publicly available (self.SaidIt)
1 month ago * by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt
Saidit.net Canary #1 (self.SaiditCanary)
4 months ago * by magnora7[A] to /s/SaiditCanary
Where is saidit hosted / based? by [deleted] in SaidIt
[–]magnora7 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun - 2 days ago (0 children)
Dallas TX, under a medium-sized independent server company that has no affiliation with any big server companies. If we ever have any trouble from them, we're technologically prepared to move to a new server at the drop of a hat.
More details come out about botched police raid in Houston, Texas... 5 officers non-lethally shot after raiding wrong house, killing dog and two elderly people who tried to defend themselves from the no-knock plainclothes police raid from a warrant, which was on wrong address. (reason.com)
1 month ago by magnora7 to /s/PoliceMisconduct
The Tin Foil Hat Podcast With Sam Tripoli -- #119 The Return of Magnora7 - Black Cube Co., Anthony Bourdain, Sabotaging the Iranian Nuclear Deal and more (youtube.com)
6 months ago by magnora7 to /s/magnora7
TIL that Mythbusters got bullied out of airing an episode on how hackable and trackable RFID chips on credit cards are, when credit card companies threatened to boycott their TV network (gizmodo.com)
2 months ago by magnora7 to /s/technology
Saidit.net — Dec 19, 2018 — New Saidit Android App Released (self.SaidIt)
3 months ago by magnora7[A] to /s/SaidIt
Saidit.net — January 9, 2018 — F-droid app release now available (self.SaidIt)
The Pyramid of Debate (saidit.net)
2 months ago by magnora7[A] to /s/pics
Saidit.net Canary #5 (self.SaiditCanary)
5 days ago by magnora7 to /s/SaiditCanary