What's the general consensus on sexuality being a choice? by SexualityCritical in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, it sort of is.

By this, I mean that when I was in my teens, i had some thoughts about girls. By the time I got to college and guys were interested also, those feelings went away.

So for me, anyway, I'm glad I didn't have any experiences. Not to say it would have been a bad thing necessarily, but it just wasn't true for me. Just like everyone who has an experience with a woman, a lot of them really aren't lesbians.

I wish the same logic could be applied to trans. Especially in their youth.

Ovarit is a mirage, right? by HOA_At_The_Moonstone in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know. I like both. I do feel that people who are disappointed with Biden (Equality Act) and like some things the GOP did (like being against Equality Act and presently the most prominent defense against TRAs) should have a voice to say they feel that way when it comes to this issue.

TiM Young Adult author,"i wish i lived in a world where i didn't have to have sensitive zoom meetings during my period because i'm crying at the drop of a hat *and* incredibly irritable.the next time someone tells me trans women don't have periods im gonna dump a whole tub of period diarrhea on them by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like Jonathan Yaniv. He insisted that he had periods before his SRS. He put pictures of the post-SRS out on Twitter, publicly, trolling Blaire White about how this bleeding is "something that us girls do." Last week, wait for it, he went to get it waxed somewhere. Even though it was purulent and granulating as per his pictures.

Sounds like that guy who was I guess post-op who hung out in debate sub. Made it a point to carry to the loo a big bag he carried feminine supplies in...just in case "someone needs."

Sounds like this other TIM who blocked me over Twitter because I defended some trans teenager who has this account "pass or not?" There's a whole subreddit where TIMs discuss that, which is public after all.

The results for Yaniv, btw, were 86.5 "not pass."

The other "13.5" need some reality help.

Ovarit? by barnarnas in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Send this to modmail...

"Gender confirmation surgery" usually does NOT mean genital surgery. Only 5-10% of TIMs in the US get genital surgeries. Hence, "girl dick." by MarkTwainiac in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've talked about the (mostly male) sports board I'm on. Well I got invited to their private chat server, used the identical handle, and everyone's like, no way. This can't be her. Your avatar is neutral so it must be fake.

I got a little pissed and just posted the first jpeg that I had at the time. It was from Jonathan Jessica Yaniv's Twitter showing his coin-slot pussy.

The room went silent. You could feel them moving away.

A day later, I replaced it with a flower and apologized to the person who invited me for doing that.

But "you can't tell...not even gynos can tell...it's exactly the same..."

Gender critical feminists warned Reddit about alleged predator Aimee Challenor but they were banned from the site by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At least Blaire White talked about this on their latest about Chanellor. About r/gc in particular.

Nah, BW isn't a "she." But I can't see them upsetting me. If I met this person in the bathroom and they were acting normal, it's not like I'd ever know. And they're not post-op and don't go into anything but that.

Ohio professor who rejected transgender pronouns can sue university: U.S. appeals court by TheOnyxGoddess in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Chase Strangio to the rescue.

Colorado baker sued again, this time for "gender transition cake" by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, the baker said he would sell them a premade cake, but would not make them a custom one, nor was he comfortable going to the gay guys' reception as a paid cake-cutter, giving the groom the cake to feed the groom and such.

And when he said no, said baker got harassed by self-described Satanists who wanted a dildo cake wedding or something.

Not every lane has to be for everyone. I would never go to someone strictly Orthodox and demand that he work on holy day and on top of it his staff turn on/turn off lights and all this shit, even though personally I think their customs are ridiculous! While I think much of religion is ridiculous, it is still a fundamental US Right. Not every single case is a religious person turning off the gas pump when you come or declining you water or a trip to the bathroom! Get over yourselves progressives!

Colorado baker sued again, this time for "gender transition cake" by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't support the gays either.

They get married in civil court, that's fine. If they want a ceremony or whatever that extends into people's rights just like any other deal.

I wouldn't expect every person who's 100 percent Muslim or Orthodox Jewish to be down for what I want for my wedding. Nor when I could have an abortion, would i expect a Catholic hospital to handle it. There are multiple other lanes available that have no problem w/working with you. Pick them.

Colorado baker sued again, this time for "gender transition cake" by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well ya, at this point I'd just take the passive aggressive approach.

You want this cake? Well here's the standard price for it. I'm gonna go along, say I really tried, use their organic ingredients, get paid early. It's pretty goddamn easy and un-sueable to fuck it up. I'd fuck it up, go over there and grey rock it. Go ahead assholes, give me bad yelp reviews.

You can't make ppl work for you for your intimate party shit. Get your own people. I'd say that about everyone.

Chase Strangio Quote of the Day: "So much violence against trans people would be eradicated if people could just accept and celebrate their sexual attraction to trans people. Your obsession is so often born of your feared desire." by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Here's a picture of Chase. https://i0.wp.com/parentsecurityonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/FEATURE-Chase-Strangio-Allison-Shelley-SCOTUS_LGBTQ_062.jpg?resize=790%2C400&ssl=1

If she's whining about not getting more attention personally, well there's several reasons for that. One, he doesn't have a dick. Two, if he got one, it would not work. Three, most women do not want to date even "cis" guys that are several inches shorter than them.

The initial purpose of dating is to find someone not just sexually compatible, but compatible on any other metric that people want. Most gay guys and straight women wouldn't give Chase a second look even if she were non-trans.

I kinda enjoy her going off on Twitter around all this, because the more that she does, the more everyone peaks #superstraight #supergay or #superbi.

Chase Strangio Quote of the Day: "So much violence against trans people would be eradicated if people could just accept and celebrate their sexual attraction to trans people. Your obsession is so often born of your feared desire." by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But I don't have any attraction to trans people. I just don't. Buck Angel looks objectively hot from a masc perspective but I don't do pussy. I just don't. Nor am I interested in engaging with anyone who thinks their penis is female. I'd be engaging because that person thinks he's a male.

That's my own sexuality! I don't date women and NO ONE SAYS I'M HATEFUL so why should it be any different? NOT ATTRACTED TO WHAT I'M NOT ATTRACTED TO and if people aren't attracted to me too, that's totes fine.

The Democrats are determined to destroy women's rights/safety,privacy,dignity/sport - Violence Against Women Act will allow some self-id in correctional facilities and force females to strip search TiMs - F the Dems. by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I brought it up at Ovarit (https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/23699/i-m-not-sure-i-ll-be-voting-dem-in-2022-2024-sorry) and the response was largely positive.

The skeptics were people who said this cannot be my hill, because of climate change, or racial justice, or abortion.

If Dems really care about these things, where have they been for 30+ years on each single one? It's not like the 1994 crime bill geared toward Black people happened under a GOP, it was just more acceptable that it happened under a Dem. Let alone the Lewinsky situation. And since, it's just been, here, let's make sure there's an abortion clinic in your state where you have to pay $800 to get $100 worth of meds.

The Dems are the ones prioritizing these TIMs, specifically the TIMs they know, who are mostly affluent and entitled. Until they stop doing that, I will not stop looking for an alternative to them or not supporting them. It's your party Dems, and way I see it, I don't even get a chance to have a conversation.

I've been a registered Dem since 1982 and still am btw, but as long as the Dems continue this charade, for which I fully blame them for, I'm not voting for any Dem on the federal level unless it is crystal they're onboard with gc. That's my issue, women's issues, and I'm sorry that gets in the way of other legit issues, but that's the way I feel about it.

Today's Senate Judiciary Hearing by WildApples in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i missed the live. Is the video available to watch anywhere?

Edit: video may be watched here.

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/the-equality-act-lgbtq-rights-are-human-rights

Why do you choose to post here instead of Ovarit? by usehername in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That was the policy of the old r/gc. The new Ovarit initially let links through to conservatives sites and now there's a discussion about what is allowed.

Look, we--or at least I--are not down for that.

Here's where you can get to all of the public documents in actual public court. https://adflegal.org/search?search_term=transgender&type=case

If I thought for one minute this would be taken down here over adflegal being who they are on other issues, sorry but I wouldn't be modding here or invested at all. The documents are relevant, and important, no matter who is involved and whoever packages them so you don't have to pay $$$ for lexus/nexus.

Why do you choose to post here instead of Ovarit? by usehername in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We don't automoderate people to archive every source expressly because someone might click through to conservative sites--when it's been conservative sites that have been providing 80-90 percent of any critical coverage. It's been conservatives like adflegal.org who have and are taking this issue to SCOTUS. It's not like people are going to try to archive all 24 or so documents in a single in a complete record for an internet post (and in the format they have used, archives have failed anyway).

We are not going to impede access to documents like these or gender-critical reporting in general because the source is conservative and disagrees with us, or most of us, on other issues.

Pantene (shampoo) features transgender "girl" in ad - Twitter says NO (is the tide turning?) by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We just bought a huge bottle of Pantene. Will not be buying the product again.

Abigail Shrier (IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE) was on Tucker Carlson last night about Planned Parenthood becoming a Gender Factory by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What a world in which Hannity, Carlson, Kavanaugh, Barrett, ADFlegal.org are our closest allies on the issue, and the ones with the megaphone.

Even though we agree on little else.

Oh F me - the Republicans are going all out to defend women's sports (Senator Paul questioning Biden's Ed Sec nom., who is doubling down on TWAW) by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Newsom already passed it in California. Here's how CDCR (prison system) is interpreting it.

https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/prea/sb-132-faqs/

So OK then! Before you had to have surgery. Now it's prohibited to ask about medical treatment. If you say you are, you are. Half of the 1,200 TIMs in prison said they wanted to go to a women's in 2019 and that's when the rule was that you'd have to get SRS. Now that you can just say anything and be verbally convincing well why the fuck wouldn't more people try that who have issues in male prison? I mean most males have issues in male prison!

I got all the CDCR evidence on that NFL thread and a guy (not the TIM) is just like "well guards have sex w/inmates too and it's exactly the same and women rape." Guards aren't restricted there and each one is over about 100 people and there's a deterrent effect (imperfect but still effective) of a guard knowing that if there's like semen on someone's shirt let alone a pregnancy he loses his job. His insurance. He could go to jail himself. As opposed to inmates who might get a week's time out in the hole for it.

The ACLU loses its last shred of credibility... by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe the TIF Gavin Grimm is also on the board.

I started a convo on a mostly male sports board about Biden's first-day trans plans...and well here's what happened. by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nah, it's an old school BB NFL board.

I started a convo on a mostly male sports board about Biden's first-day trans plans...and well here's what happened. by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the TIM was saying if everyone just got puberty blockers, problem solved because none of that matters before puberty.

He also thinks puberty blockers are benign.

I started a convo on a mostly male sports board about Biden's first-day trans plans...and well here's what happened. by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it really happened.

Step One: The "fiancee" catfishes Jon. All the pictures she sent were photoshopped compilations from the Web. Without even verifying this on Facetime, Jon hones in on the catfish who then tells Jon she's going to be in Toronto for her sick kid, and tells Jon not to come. Not only does Jon spend $2K to fly and stay there, he also brings his mother. Meanwhile someone who knew the catfish told Rebel Media who did show up and confront him. Recommended viewing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cMoLEFmRvM

Step Two: The catfish, obviously not there in the first place, ghosted him and even after coming in touch with Rebel, he goes to a place in BC, calls it Hawaii, and has this video with his mom:

https://meowtube.org/videos/Violent/Catfishing%20death%20threats.mp4

Step Three: The catfish sends Meow Mix a confessional saying she was the catfish and along with it maybe 60GB of texts, plus all the videos he sent her (she sent none back) and all the phone conversations (they were mostly VMs, she participated in one). Points of interest: Jon reveals that he has not had sex ever. He sends a receipt for a sperm bank. That's how the catfish got out, she feigned being pissed about the sperm issue saying she didn't think they were viable.

Step Four: Yaniv pivots to the fantasy that if he has GRS all will be fixed, he thinks. He undergoes the procedure 1/11 and within two weeks is Tweeting about how awesome the paramedics were that hauled him out of the bubble bath he was not supposed to have so soon. And he loves his new gynecologist.

Step Five: Yaniv will probably roll around trying to inveigle Sikh women, in particular, to wax his neo-vulva made from his former balls. Of course he'll divulge all this and some beauticians will point out that the skin is still different. Or they'll recognize his face since it's been Tweeted and YT'd millions of times. Won't matter to Jon, it'll be like "I HAVE A VAG, why aren't you waxing it?"

Step Six: Race is on between the sepsis and tears he's going to develop from shoving tampax in there and using dildos instead of dilators--and his hastening to the BCHRT with a new set of fresh complaints that don't involve waxing the actual balls, and maybe he gets them to do a media ban order, which in that case would bring us right back to 3/18 when most of us became aware of him.

I started a convo on a mostly male sports board about Biden's first-day trans plans...and well here's what happened. by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They got a "brand ambassadorship" that allowed them to push little Dixie-sized Bailey's cups in a liquor store.

Of course there was an uproar. Then there was the pandemic. Jon quit again.

Jon's used his time since friending 13 yos on tiktok and streaming his (nonexistent) DJ skills. He thought he met a girl (19) with a sick kid and fantasized they'd be married--despite never facetiming her. He flew three time zones to Toronto to see the girl and her kid. They had been made up. He then did a video with his mom in a hot tub claiming they were in Hawaii (they weren't) with the mom caressing his hair and kissing his neck while he stuck out his tongue. He allegedly had GRS last month and is now applying to be a UN volunteer.

Ovarit is just as guilty of random censorship as reddit. What happened? by JustWhy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So if it were my decision (it's not), I would have removed the meme due to both racism and sexism and then locked the thread.

I started a convo on a mostly male sports board about Biden's first-day trans plans...and well here's what happened. by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Even Yaniv got a job in 2020. He was one of the free sample people at the liquor store. He was always about town before the pandemic eating at places, pestering kids at public pools, and of course talking about how he was going to be the next Amanda Todd if you weren't nice to him.

This guy has the same attitude.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) comes out as sexual assault survivor, but she still supported men in women's prisons. HYPOCRITE. MISOGYNIST. HANDMAIDEN. by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure the Equality Act can get past the Senate given the filibuster.

Biden appoints 63-year-old autogynephile TIM as assistant secretary of health by gendercritfem in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah this person when they last practiced specialized in pediatric eating disorders and is now being put in charge of covid. Remember the crap about Scott Atlas being just a neurologist? How is this better?

This is a test created by TIMs for other prospective TIMs to test if they have real ladybrain. Test yourself and find out! by gendercritfem in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sixty five questions. I got through 17 before I gave up.

No i can't do spatial relations, but if i did it wouldn't make me a man any more than my sister is. No I don't read faces or remember them all that well, which is what I guess men do. I have never been turned on by my own body so what kind of question is this.

I am an adult female human with a female reproductive system, and that is what makes me a woman.

If someone has a male reproductive system, they're at best a male living as a woman.

Does anyone else lose respect for people when they put their (very obvious) pronouns in their social media bios? by arcticbasket in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. Like our now vice-president elect.

The fact is that the only thing that stands between the Biden/Harris prior commitment to the "Equality Act" is the same magas many of us don't like, or Republicans, or whatever. The Senate stays in their hands, they back off on this insanity, or at least let the conversation go forward into SCOTUS as will probably happen with Hecox.

I'm not going to sit here for one minute and think that there's one type of penis that doesn't matter from another type when it's there and present with me in a vulnerable state. I don't care if it's Blaire White or Jonathan Yaniv if I have to encounter it in a female setting, and I only respect Blaire more because they've established they would never do that. But the Jonathans will.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They have $3M in cash from the ffil's mom, who passed away at 103, to say nothing of the half of the house plus assets they received from her parents when they died prior. They just insist that they wanna be at home, by far their most expensive option, if they did it right.

SO tried spending the nights at his mom, with his brother's wife coming over during the day. Within 48 hours, there were heated calls with f-bombs flying between the two of them because she demanded of him a "day off" but did not wish to reciprocate by sending the brother, her husband, over there to spend the night.

Anyway that night was the first, and probably the only, night I spent at ILs, because 1) they'd removed the cat that i'm deathly allergic to (seriously, it's a 4 to 8 benadryl night after their holidays) and 2) crucially, there was supposed to be a Big Fambily Meeting including the fmil about maybe introducing a respite person.

I show up, and DIL is just like, "His mom has had a long day. This isn't a good time to talk."

Within a couple hours, I'm observing that she's up, eating, awake and alert, and talking to Daddy about their affluent town gossip and Mrs. So and So. Within a couple hours, I'd determined that this would be my last night there ever, or at least for a long while.

So when we had a moment alone, I pulled up my chair, and I'm like, "she's putting in 70 hours a week and he's hit maybe 102. They CAN'T relieve each other. What if either of them gets "flu symptoms"? It could be covid."

OMG, the just no part of her came out in force. Her first reaction was to say what she's paid for him, over the years, look I'll show you my checkbook. I'm like, it's not about that. The second reaction was her breaking into tears (she often does) and the third reaction was to banish me from the whole floor.

The next day, I wasn't there, but the DIL and her husband (his brother) were. The brother was tasked with conveying the DIL's severe displeasure by saying that I shouldn't have done that over her explicit instruction. His reply: "If she didn't do that, then Mom would be making YOU the fall guy. She's only going for having the hired help you've been looking into because SHE got mom to start thinking about it."

There was more conversation, which ended, reportedly, in the SO telling his brother to, quote, "fuck off."

Omg. The hired help the brother found was this lady who sort of knew some neighbors of hers, but she is very much into her Affluent Little Town. This lady is now tasked with working a straight 48 hour shift (to relieve DIL, whom I'll call Baby Jane) and then come in at night to "just sleep there" as the dad will be returning from stroke rehab with a withered right arm and hand at best. They fired SO from all the shifts they'd scheduled him for, because they found a rando off the street to work for $5 less, and less than $5 over legal minimum wage.

Thankfully I wasn't part of the discussion.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is sweet that they want to be together! But they want to do it at home together. SO and his brother talked privately without his wife around, and they agreed that this situation could not go on for more than a month and/or until the ffil returns from the stroke place. If they want that at that time, they'll need professional assistance.

As an aside, i was asked to look up some prices for a comparative chart. The low end was SO working for $25/hour for 12-hour overnight shift--which works out to 9,000/month. The so and his mom talked between themselves, and she's committed to paying him for every hour he spends on them and not just that. afaik, the brother's wife is volunteering, so what they'd pay him would be it.

The high-end? Twenty-four hours of bonded CNA presence through an agency retaining them as an employee (thus avoiding client risk of them being hurt on the property) is over 36,000/month where I live. Going through care.com for an indie, about $29,000 per month.

And that's for one person. For two?

They are 1 percenters who like clipping coupons and talking about what insurance isn't paying for. But truth is, the option isn't for the family to be involved with this for long, not with two invalids needing 24 hour care. They need a skilled nursing facility in which they can both reside in the same room and comfort each other. They need med techs coming by to check their blood levels and vitals. The kids have successfully gotten the cat and the dog temporarily relocated and neither can return until the mom's chemo is done. The cost to stay home is absolutely insane if you're getting help for even one person on a 24 hour basis who at least is bonded and backgrounded. Let alone two.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I understand, and to me you've been an extremely important voice in the discussion.

I appreciate everyone's indulgence here, but I just had another screaming fight with SO.

He claims I do this every night. Well I am doing it every night, because since April 21, 2020, he has not had a job. He now feels that he has one with the fmil's "generous" offer of $25/hour for however long it takes. He says it's not going to take 12 hours. It'll take 11. And on top of this will be the things he feels he must do socially and during the day, which is blurring the lines further.

I said, you're not here for 18 hours a day, that will affect our relationship by the first of the year. (Actually, it already is.) It's not the 12, it's more the 18, which you're not being paid for, and which brings down the base rate to $16.50/hour with no real job and no insurance.

I said, we're supposed to be a team here, and you're not acting like it. If you are spending 18 hours there, you might as well be living there. Which is your choice. Look at just what happened today, you had to drive to the city to try to bring the undies and visit him, and apparently he didn't care enough to even put his eldest son on the list. Now our dinner is being cut short because it's 930 to 10 and he needs to take care of their totally optional animal, another hour.

That's your free eight today, right there. No, it doesn't help that you have your mom's card and that you bought your favorite food on it for today. He's like, this is super short-term, but there can't be deadlines. Until when exactly? Until she or DIL doesn't cry or throw a hissy?

The only thing i'm invested in here is him and us. Not their family of origin and specifically and actually not their optional tasks. Your rosebushes are encroaching on the sidewalk, well get your gardener that you already pay to do this. Their dog and their cat? They are optional animals. He does know that professional petsitters will take care of them for $30/day, but so far the ILs are just gifting them with money when they feel like--and even if that becomes more structured, that's still 18 hours out of our relationship.

i'm willing to be the bad guy in the situation, but I'm not willing to be relegated to a secondary component. If he actually wants to volunteer for their cat, their dog, their rosebushes, their friends or other optional tasks, i can't stop him. All those things interfere with the relationship that we're supposed to be cultivating.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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I briefed SO on what his mother said to me, specifically that she believes she will be released as early as tomorrow, that said doctors themselves have opined she will probably be back in the hospital quite a few times. That she believes that he and DIL will collectively care for her needs, that while I appreciate I'm welcome, I don't really have a role so I expect my presence to be minimal.

He's like, we have to take it one step at a time. I'm like, you mean like Covid in February. He could blow up that plan of hers right now by calling her and saying he's out, but he's not going to have an excuse unless it's full time employment, which he is not making a priority. And he doesn't want to make her cry.

This woman grew up totally white privilege, was conventionally attractive in her younger days, and that's what she does, and that's what she expects. No one can say anything against her "emergencies" whether they genuinely are, or whether they are about the cat box having turds out of it that she needs so to clean up so she can resume "wanting to live." She'll just start bawling or screaming and they'll give her what she wants. The DIL is the same way.

SO is pissed, he thinks she is selfish, but how selfish she is is going to be something that he's going to have to figure out by himself. With him over there working for the equivalent of $16.50 per hour (assuming the 8 hour volunteering on top of the paid 12), I'd assume he wants to be better than that for our relationship. She is not going to be better fast for sure and i'm not going to opine that I want her to decline rapidly (although that is surely coming). She might "give" him money for a nice Valentine's Day dinner and if all this malarkey is still going on then, I'll give his ring back. Then or before then.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Frankly, I see them, or at least one of them, lingering for quite a while. They may piss and moan about how they'll just die without the other one because of emotional pain, but let's face facts, that alone doesn't kill most people.

Their whole goal is to be in their own house tended to by their fambily, of which they're even talking about paying only one. For them, there's no disadvantage in blowing up our relationship; it's not like they especially like me anyway, and the breakup would force SO into living with them, which is what I sense they want. Then they can pay him or not because hell it's a better part of a more expensive region anyway.

SO is saying that's not what he wants, that what he wants is to get a full time job when the "crisis" is over. The crisis is not going to be over just like Covid-19 was not going to be over in February. The choice for me is that if he pays up he gets the keys and he gets to keep his stuff here, but like if you're engaged there's supposed to be more than that. I'll start detaching if there's no time to the relationship.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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DIL is not a biological daughter. She is his brother's former rehab partner that he met when they were in jail or diversion apparently. This woman has not worked a full-time shift since being with the brother, and is currently estranged from her whole family of origin, and is very invested in being the "housewifey" type. She is 65 but very sensitive about it, but we all know she is only a decade younger than the fmil.

The ils fronted their whole wedding and then their down payment for their house. The brother's previous marriage history was to a woman already pregnant with not his bio. The way ILs dealt with it was to encourage them to give up this child to their personal BFFs so they, the BFFs, could get the white infant that they desired and so they, the ILs, could feel good as "godparent" rather than desire to make the SO's sister by doing that themselves. That's philanthropy to them. Anyway after that BIL cleaned himself up and makes enough bank to support her with whatever her volunteering whims are.

I called fMIL when SO left just to see how she was doing and maybe broach the care home discussion. She has TWO types of cancer apparently, with one being tied to why she's in the hosp now (the pain). But she's so confident that DIL and SO will just go take care of her. I asked her about the didy and she was like, well DIL will take care of it (for free). I can't imagine she'd ask SO (who she said a couple days ago would be paid but he wants nothing to do with that part of it) so I see no reason to really go over there, because she said.

The situation was hopeless, so rather than escalate I just cracked a couple of generic hospital jokes, like how the cable sucks there and so do the TVs and how football is doing. That's my latest diversion tactic, when things get too political or personal, you can just talk sports.

This is really going to be a decision for SO. I will expect the full amount of rent, plus his arrears, to come in whether he chooses to stay there or not. She just told me I am unneeded for her, and therefore he needs to sleep alone in his HS bedroom, with his 37-year-old football trophies, and decide for himself if he would prefer that to an actual relationship and an actual job.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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I waited until SO was gone and then I called fmil for a supportive chat.

Really, it was supportive. I told her that we'd bought this flannel snap front housecoat because I heard she was cold. I breached, very cautiously, the issue of how if SO dropped her (or him) it would kill SO and she's like, "Oh that would never happen." She thinks that she can take care of the diaper by herself and if she can't, then DIL will be along.

She divulged that the pain in her back is probably caused by one of the two forms of cancer that she has. I was only aware of one, but whatever.

Then she pipes up with "well the doctors say I can go home." Oh rly. What can I say, I suggested that if it's possible to give us 12, 24 hours. She's also divulged that the doctors also told her she'd be in the hospital for a few more times.

She insists on this, because a hospital is not the dreaded nursing home, and she will be discharged soon enough eventually to the arms of her loving DIL who never has had employment and whose whole existence is being Martha Stewart for her DH and now them, and her unemployed son (which they're supposed to be paying to be there, $25/hr x 12 x 30, that's $9,000 month. Which, frankly, I will expect $2,500 of, because that's about what's come out of my bank account while sponsoring these pandemic delays. Assuming that first month will come at all.

Let me say also that when he was getting the sweet pandemic benefits, the trump eo benefits, all those monies rapidly disappeared because he was paying the harbormaster for his boat. And making sure he paid his storage. He wants to have that shit, that's totally independent and I got stiffed over it.

A month of him sleeping by himself in an attic bedroom last occupied by him in HS 37 years ago might wake him up. Or not. I don't do the housewife thing at all. I'm extremely bad at the domestic arts and not interested in them at all.

I don't feel the need to go sleep with him at that place beyond extremely occasionally, because she's told me herself that she can do her didy and if that's an issue then the hero DIL will do it. Fine then he can deal with his mom's wet diaper at 2 in the morning after assisting her and hoping he doesn't break her or calling 911. Or the ffil at that point.

She's made it clear I don't have a role here beyond the emotional support of SO, whom they would gladly welcome into the fold as a 18, a 24 hour dogsbody because they can offer him the room he lived in "rent free." And frankly, that's because unlike DIL I am not willing to volunteer for free, nor am I'm not interested in being a storage unit. If he's not going to be here ever then he can get his shit out and over to their house and she will cry about how unsightly it is and how it takes up backyard space. I really do not give a shit right now.

I'm not the one who needs their housing or their food. If he's invested in living there over having a relationship, better to know now than later, I guess.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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It does not sound shitty. It's the eventuality for all of us. Both their kids are childless so there's not going to be "someone there to care for us."

Half the time when they call, they are mute about what's going on with them personally, but they want us to check on, bring things to, the other one. They have made it abundantly clear that when one of them goes, the other one will wish and will that they were dead too. That is seriously their plan--there's no plan for them to be separate from each other.

None of them are willing to discuss the obvious option of being placed for some months in the same care facility, where they could share a room, watch each other, and encourage each other in the process of rehabilitation or getting better. They want to do that at home and so far, they are doing it without paying anyone.

I'll last maybe weeks in this situation before boundaries will be put up. SO, if you're not here to further our needs as a team, then really do you want to rent here when they're going to "give" you your 1982 hs room for free? You really want to go down that track for three years, 10 years?

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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I largely agree, and I'm trending toward just letting him do what he wants to "help out." I'll go with him for the first couple nights, maybe, to see how it goes but at 8 a.m. I am out of there. No I'm not interested in sticking around and having DIL's home-cooked breakfast and hanging around until lunchtime or later to trim their rosebushes or visit their dog or watch for their packages for free, even though DIL is set and is doing that for free. It's all work to me. If SO wants to go back and be bossed around by the DIL on a volunteer basis.

We see, in our neighborhood, so many cases of emotionally stunted men who moved in with, or never left, their mother's house. Many of these men are our age. If he prefers to be one of them, there's nothing I can do about it, but if he wants to retain keys to the house he'll have to pay the rent to do that. Love does not conquer all, sweetie.

So the newest, and the summary, of today is that fmil is calling him, mentioning that now there's a problem with the knee that renders her nonambulatory, but the main reason is that he's supposed to see ffil (it's his BIRTHDAY after all) and bring more underwear because he is soiling them, allegedly because the stroke place has him on a puree diet. Has anyone ever vomited stomach contents before? It looks like puree and that is not the reason he is incontinent. His stroke is.

I'm just going to wait a month or two for people to come to the same conclusions. They are both currently incontinent at times. Neither of them can walk with any reliability. They sure as hell can't drive. If hero DIL wants to do it for free, that's her issue. If SO invests an extra 8 in volunteering, it is on him.

SO kinda gets it, he wants to snuggle with me at night, he wants to hang around and decompress. The truth is that at minimum, he will have to cough up the rent to stay here, all of it, and not just the discounted rate that's he's further opted in by discounting it another $75. If that money is not forthcoming, then we go back to a dating relationship where he calls me before, knocks for me to let him in, and gets them to pay for all the stuff he has here, or he stores it at their place.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Complicating the issue is that this family is very genderist. The FMIL and DIL have not worked full-time during their marriages. FMIL's job was to take care of FFIL by being the housewife. That too is a role that the DIL is comfortable in.

They expected me to do that too, and I'm not. I'm actually very terrible and have no interest in the routine domestic stuff at all.

Fam, I really need advice on the fIL situation here.EE by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Oh I have asked this on that subreddit. Many times. More than a few people have said that I should just dump my fiance over this and get on with my own life free of his family. I'm not quite at that point yet.

Our relationship was pretty OK until he lost his job. It's attractive that at least the fmil understands that we need money and the only way she gets what she wants--coming home--is if he/we get paid to afford to "help out." However, with the latest developments here, I am seriously wondering how dangerous this plan is.

We do not know how to lift a vulnerable person. The house has not been retrofitted in any way beyond a handheld showerhead and a bath railing--there's no lift and no outside railings for example. The one thing I can do that SO won't is clean his mom up if there's an incontinence issue and she can't--assuming of course that she can get situated on a bed or chair or toilet first. Which is in doubt.

The mom is in hospital because she caught something from the cat. During our collective phone call, it was revealed that she would be at home, at earliest, Saturday, so don't worry about it for now.

I'm sorry, what? The cat and the dog need to be out of there today then, and there need to be hazmat-certified individuals to go through the house and deep clean it. Not DIL's personal servants, but certified individuals who'll also deal with the hepa filters. How is the house supposed to be ready?

She is on IV diluadid because the oxys and the roxies she has at home aren't cutting it for the pain. The bossy DIL is like, "it could just be a hairline fracture" as if that's trivial and we, the fambily, will just have to "help more" because the most important thing is fmil's feelings, and her feelings are that she'd rather be sick at home and/or die at home surrounded by fambily.

The survival rate for her form of cancer, advanced as it is, is 67 percent overall provided she can tolerate the chemo. For the jnffil, the stroke social worker said the vast majority are released within three weeks to go home, which I assume means being able to eat and do bathroom things yourself.

So as far as they might live? It might be three months. It might be three years. Or 10.

Biden vows to make Equality Act a priority within first 100 days by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Since Oberfell, I kind of wonder what rights LGB are missing out on as the high court cases have involved wedding cakes and having religious foster-adopt agencies refuse to consider them.

Well women are routinely refused to be considered at religious hospitals if they need abortion care, so they go to somewhere that does. And if someone refused to do my wedding cake party there's like 20 other people that will.

This isn't oppression. These are ridiculous first-world situations of "microaggression" and "not validating my intersectional existence."

Males being allowed to observe females stripping and then competing with them, that's oppression. Males being put in actual prison or dv shelters with females, that's oppression. There's a thread somewhere here about how them cutting their dick off is oppression, well buddy that's the price of the pool because we're not here to see your shenis, no matter how dysphoric you feel about it.

I don't get why we have to care about transwomen at all. I have nothing in common with them as I'm a female.

Biden vows to make Equality Act a priority within first 100 days by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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You answered the question with the edit.

Biden vows to make Equality Act a priority within first 100 days by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Years back there was talk about making it LGB only.

since all the orgs are now tttt it failed.

Biden vows to make Equality Act a priority within first 100 days by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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i don't either. but i also don't want trump.

jfc what a world in which we're looking to freaking Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh to actually put a stop to this...for the same reasons they want to stop abortion.

Yaniv targets beauty pageant in new discrimination complaint | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms by BiologyIsReal in GenderCritical

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Yeah. This is basically correct. The BCHRT was especially lenient with Yaniv even after he'd been uncovered by the Economist for crying out loud.

Remember how many of us got banned off every social media platform for mentioning him? Calling him a him? Using the deadname that's STILL part of his legal name?

I digress. Anyways Yaniv tried going to bchrt with two more waxing complaints, jccf got involved and yaniv withdrew those. He also withdrew one he had against Bill whatcott. The pageant claim was actually made around fall 2019, and how it differs is that it doesn't involve the bchrt.

Ontario's hrt can easily nip this in the bud by just requiring his presence. Toronto's an expensive city and JYS was just there with Mama Yaniv chasing down a freaking catfish. Rebel Media was there and the catfish eventually sent every goddamn text message, voice and video to Meowmix.

I gotta tip my hat to MM. They started out on freaking wordpress.com and I just thought uh-oh, they're going to be like gendertrender. But they had all their shit backed up and migrated successfully to a platform that yaniv can't get to them on.

Can someone tell me if this is true that they are making real penises and vaginas using tissues? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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gut tissue will never feel like a vag. Or a penis for that matter.

Yaniv targets beauty pageant in new discrimination complaint | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms by BiologyIsReal in GenderCritical

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You can sue someone without a lawyer or represent yourself, just like in the states. This thing jy filed isn't even a suit but one or both sides can get lawyers.

Yaniv does his actual court filings by claiming poverty (despite owning a condo) and demanding huge amounts. He succeeds rarely in getting a 2000 settlement or something so that incents him to sue or file complaints against, let's see, his mom and his hoas, the township he lives in, another beauty pageant besides this, at least two other waxing salons, re-suing the original waxers that he had to pay 6 grand to.

Eventually people started suing him. Rebel media did over two of their journos getting beaten and have a criminal case ongoing. Amy Hamm did when he falsely alleged that she was taking pictures of him in a toilet in the women's. When the shoe's on the other foot, Jon needs a lawyer and a real one, not just someone who'll write a letter.

Yaniv targets beauty pageant in new discrimination complaint | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms by BiologyIsReal in GenderCritical

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Anyways all, there's a site called meowmix.org that's cataloguing all of the Yaniv follies. (Oh btw they call themselves Jessica Simpson, that is one of said follies).

Yaniv targets beauty pageant in new discrimination complaint | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms by BiologyIsReal in GenderCritical

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He got Donald Trump Jr to reply to this. https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1320777658427449344

That's what he wants as was seen when he got the same reaction from Carlson and then trump jr over the ballwaxing last July.

The Federalist: Trans demands aren't human rights by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Yeah, gc didn't allow it unless you archived per the old rule 8 so clicks wouldn't be sent to them.

Frankly I think that's at the lowest of our concerns at the moment, but whatever.

The Federalist: Trans demands aren't human rights by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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So Ovarit dropped the old GC Rule 8, it seems.

The Federalist: Trans demands aren't human rights by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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It was "Just Want Privacy" at UW in 2016. The YT used to be live but you can still see remnants of it.

Kaeley got shouted down. Ben-Shalom got more attention because she was the first military drill sergeant and carries an intimidating appearance, but the TRA crowd really quieted down when they brought on a detransitioned female and her girlfriend.

Everyone, I really need your advice. It seems like I'm going to have to give my little sister some kind of sex/sexuality/gender identity all-in-one talk and I'm dreading it. She's almost 12 and already sucked into internet bs (and I suppose this is the age for that conversation regardless) by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

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I might say that it might be that she is trans, or it might be a whole bunch of other things. There's really no hurry to figure it out.

The Federalist: Trans demands aren't human rights by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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yeah, they came on with miriam ben shalom in that UW debate that ended up being a shitshow in 2016.

Joe Biden endorses child transing by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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So I posted the yt about child transing in the political annex board where we discuss these things (I am the only woman there on the regular) and this happened

Tim:

I'm only going to say this once, after which I will no longer dignify the nonsense with a response.

Puberty blockers would have given me a life.. I didn't have that option available to me, but I would give anything to have had it.

Puberty blockers prevent the start of puberty, which is NOT permanent. It does give younger trans people the chance to figure themselves out. Depriving young transitioners of blockers IS abuse. Forcing irreversible body changes in the form of an incongruent puberty is not only abuse, but leads to life long self esteem issues, public humiliation, a very real lack of romantic opportunities, job, housing, and other forms of discrimination and abuse.

LIFE LONG.

You, to be perfectly honest, are the reason 41% is a well known statistic. You pump out these fake anecdotes and fake studies to push a violent agenda against the most marginalized people in society. Your rhetoric is both ignorant and dangerous and if I wasn't fortunate to have a very loving and supportive family, I wouldn't be here because of the type of $h!t you keep pumping out.

And then this happened from another poster:

Wow, you're just winning people over right and left here. Attack and name-call and claim uber-victimhood privilege. In your case, maybe more justified than many others, maybe not. Label everything YOU don't agree with, or that doesn't match your personal experience as FAKE.

Then you try to guilt others with the 41% number, as if THEY are somehow personally responsible. So, it's all <wrongtoy's> fault? Nasty tactic to shut down dialogue. But then, it's becoming clear you don't want dialogue, you want trans dogma. For those who don't know, 41% represents the percent of respondents to a National trans Discrimination Survey who said they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27380151/

OK, so you're not able to sustain any sort of civil conversation other than give trans advocates a blank check on anything and everything they ever say. You yourself seem to be guilty of the extremely narrow minded rhetoric you presume to accuse others of. My concern is that it seems there is an "industry" developing around "transitioning", in particular targeting socially vulnerable teen girls, and in particular, targeting autistic teen girls. Problem being that a self-interested capitalistic industry is more concerned with its own near-term prosperity than the long-term well-being of any particular human it purports to serve. This article is one discussion of the issue. https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/how-peer- ... sitioning/ and is written by the author of this book: https://www.amazon.com/Irreversible-Dam ... B07YL6XK55

The TIM has already called me a TERF but that poster above is just a white guy and he hasn't said anything.

SMH but maybe the message is getting out. Or maybe it isn't. This person like most providing gc thoughts is a conservative.

Joe Biden endorses child transing by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Any proTRA parent will seize on this as saying they need medical interventions for their kid to be trans or the kid will kill themselves.

Former Prison Governor on TiMs in women's prisons: A danger to women, a danger to prison workers by BEB in GenderCritical

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Thanks! I've posted that to my ongoing discussion elsewhere. Not sure how many views it'll get among males however.

Surrogacy is not a gay rights issue – it is a women’s rights issue by alttrawl in GenderCritical

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Not unless the kids get access to their true IDs at age 18 so they can look them up if they want.

It's not about you. It's about them and their conditions they might be at risk for, for one, that only the bio parent can provide.

Seattle Seahawks announcer suspended indefinitely for observing that he could just be a she if he felt like it by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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No shit? This is my team and I've been arguing it with people on an indy board.

The most abuse--by this I don't mean disagreement but actual personal crap--has been among liberal males.

My SO is himself a Biden voter and we put up a Trump for Prison sign, but he's not even in the group of people who feel that saying the c-word to a woman who infuriates them is ok. This one guy has also issued slurs toward, let's see, Blacks, Natives, Asians and even yes the t-word.

This is from someone who had no opinion on the matter what, two or three weeks ago.

Way I see it is that both sides are developing a cult mentality here and the liberal side, particularly MEN, are more rude about it.

Surrogacy is not a gay rights issue – it is a women’s rights issue by alttrawl in GenderCritical

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It's the fiction that they CAN produce children by themselves. No you can't, you get an egg from one anonymous woman, fertilize it and then stick it into the body of another anonymous woman relegated to being an EZ-bake for you so you won't be bugged or have "competition" for them.

It's not like a lot of kids won't want to know in adulthood, no matter how much WUV you gave them.

Graham Linehan won’t work for Channel 4 unless they reinstate his “transphobic” episode - go Glinner! by BEB in GenderCritical

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Tell me about it, I've been calmly laying out the fact for woke techbros about the Seattle Seahawks getting canceled and they all think it's exactly the same as being racist. Or in that case, even worse.

I have been told Kung Flu is funny (on this site) and I've been called the c-word and b-word and w-word on this site by a white guy who actually has said in public that my suggesting he has a "small one" is exactly the same.

My only allies in this? Trumpsters. Conservatives. Libertarians. Pretty much just them. It's like the progressive mind is just a borg, particularly the male mind. They don't even SEE the consequences of Kamala desperately broadcasting "she/her" on her Twitter when Biden is not doing that. They don't even care that the California prison system is going to start admitting all these TIMs or people who say they're TIM to a women's prison. There are only two in California versus 31 male ones so what are they going to do, just make them co-ed?

I wasn't a mod at GC but I knew several, and their thing every day would be banning numerous TRA nuts that came in despite the fact we weren't debate sub. They would not let us have one place for us on our own. Even here I dealt with someone who'd been banned like four times and I told him fine, here's your open thread, you have your conversation and you go away. Guess what, I had to ban him 20 more times after.

I don't know if you twitter Ngo, but the same phenom is seen there.

Graham Linehan won’t work for Channel 4 unless they reinstate his “transphobic” episode - go Glinner! by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure Glinner got banned from Twitter some time back. Transphobia.

Seattle Seahawks announcer suspended indefinitely for observing that he could just be a she if he felt like it by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Because he insulted Woman 2.0, that's why.

Totes fine to insult Women 1.0 however.

Seattle Seahawks announcer suspended indefinitely for observing that he could just be a she if he felt like it by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Oh, I have.

This is saying that QB Russell Wilson could just identify as the lesbian partner of Ciera or that Lockett is the first "woman" receiver ever.

My question for Kamala Harris at tonight's debate, "Senator Harris - What is a woman?" by BEB in GenderCritical

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Whoa, there's actually any state that disallows women from having ivf?

My question for Kamala Harris at tonight's debate, "Senator Harris - What is a woman?" by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]WrongToy 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

i used to say that without a definition of woman, there can be no women's rights.

Party A is OK with the definition, they're just not ok with the rights. Party B thinks the rights are ok but the definition is not.

Blair White shows off his custom-built "Barbie Pink" GUN & gets 24K Likes by BEB in GenderCritical

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She is free to call Blaire a biological male if she feels like it and use whatever pronoun she wishes.

We're not here for trans-apologetics.

Blair White shows off his custom-built "Barbie Pink" GUN & gets 24K Likes by BEB in GenderCritical

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i have respect for bw because they did this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnhnShhxfhQ&t=1230s

tif files pregnancy suit against amazon by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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I know. They can get pregnant from artificial techniques as well. Hence what I said, most women.

tif files pregnancy suit against amazon by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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This is a woman who got pregnant through PIV like most women ever...

To the vintologi asshole by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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He had his chance to make his case here but like Yaniv, he's just an oxygen thief.

To the vintologi asshole by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Yeah I agree. I tried. He's just like 90 percent of the TIMs on the Internet. No boundaries at all.

Just report this guy from now on.

To the vintologi asshole by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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He keeps coming back saying he wants an honest discussion. Here's the place he can have it.

All about how "science" says it's not at all about the genitals and how we're 'genital fetishists." All about the whataboutism about are infertile women women and so forth. All his anime shit. He wants to vent, he can do it right here and then he can go away.

To the vintologi asshole by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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In 99 out of 100 scenarios i'd agree with you.

In this case i think like a handmaid's tale ass kicking is in order, for anyone who wished to do that, and by popular request.

A note on vintologi posts by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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If someone somewhere wants to indulge someone who's got a total boner for promoting a site about sex robots and transhumanism and trannymaxxing, they can go for it.

A note on vintologi posts by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Here's where debate content goes: https://saidit.net/s/gcdebatesqt

I'm not a mod there and don't know their rules, but would not be surprised if they banned this guy for being an obvious troll.

A note on vintologi posts by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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I see your point, but...we're not the debate sub.

Explain this, Alphabet Mob by wecandobetter in GenderCritical

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This is insane and so offensive.

When I first heard of the phenom of tifs, i was going into the hospital for cancer surgery. What I didn't know was that I'd be put on the same floor as delusional TIFs (which is bad) but also biological males who had their SRS. I mean, it was so fucking delightful to get a Diluadid shot to get up and into a walker so I could shuffle halfway down a hospital hallway with my ass hanging out of a hospital gown. I'm sure they could so relate. NOT.

Do I enjoy not having reconstructed "breasts" that are there only in form? I don't. I can feel nothing in them five years later. Like the other day I caught an ember in them and was confused as to whether it was hot. For the rest of my life it'll be like this because it was a life-or-death physical condition and not just something that people threaten to kill themselves over if they can't have.

California prisons to sort by gender identity, self id accepted by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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It depends on facility. They'll generally house TIMs separately if they request. It should actually be the first-line option. Like I said, even now, there are trans dorms and even units already. In male prison.

So why push it? I mean, why did Michaele Norsworthy (the murderer who got srs out of SQ in 2015) push it? He was already at San Quentin, which despite its reputation is a model of prison rehab. Their media projects are advised by journo professors at Cal and Columbia, and they have been Pulitzer finalists. People from Google come out to train people to code. The Warriors have recruited from their namesake prison team. Its firefighters are trusted in not just the village (guards) but southern Marin in general. It has a dedicated and accredited college.

And one of the journos wrote about how, actually, TW are very accepted at San Quentin among this population of men who are all trying to do their program so that they can get good time and get released.

Most long-termers there are lifers with dates like this guy had. But no, that wasn't enough. He needed to be with actual women.

After a long-term battle--which "she her" Kamala fought for the state--it was determined that the state would have to pay for his bottom surgery, after which he'd get sent to Chowchilla, or Chino.

The tools of rape, or at least some crucial ones, were removed from the murderer's body at his request. Spendy, but a better line than saying any intact male can just identify right into Chowchilla, no srs, no hormones, no wig or whatever required...like it makes a difference anyway.

California prisons to sort by gender identity, self id accepted by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Ah yes, Truvada, the first antiviral that cleared viral loads so they "couldn't be transmissible during sex!" Ah yes, you can't imagine what happened in the porn industry when TIMs with the virus started saying, "Baby I'm clean you're just being transphobic!"

The HIV rate in San Francisco is 30 percent higher in TIMs than gay men! Who knows if they're taking their meds any more than any woman's supposed to know their dick is somehow magically inert at all times and that all inert dicks are magically unharmful? We're all supposed to take people's word for it who have more than their share of personality disorders and other psychiatric ailments?

Yep, otherwise we're just "denying their humanity."

This is the world in which Weiner lives.

California prisons to sort by gender identity, self id accepted by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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From about 2002-2010, they'd routinely segregate prisoners into two broad groups: the general population--who used to be segregated by race both by their own assertion and assisted by the staff--and the "special needs population" who could not choose whom to room with. The SNY population included gays, trans and especially gang dropouts. In contrast, California's two female prisons have never had an sny yard.

Anyways, around 2012 they decided that because people sort of behaved in Sny, they should expand that model to GP. They were under court order anyway for the racial...so that spurred a movement to integrate everyone for any reason by unit as much as possible.

California prisons to sort by gender identity, self id accepted by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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This is what's supposed to happen according to Prison Rape Eradication Act of 2002, revised twice through 2012.

A person is supposed to present themselves to medical for a general checkup. If the genitals are observed, they may be noted, but noting the genitals themselves cannot be the primary purpose of the checkup.

Body cavity physical searches are infrequent. i'm not sure but wouldn't be surprised if a female guard's duties included looking up men's asses,

I would hope it would be different for the women, for very obvious reasons. There are only two prisons in california that are fully female; another is about 1/4 by floor. There used to be three, but one shut down and males were moved into it.