QT: The most damning contradiction of trans ideology by Chronicity in GCdebatesQT

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I'm actually surprisingly down with what I could call the 'private definitions' model - like these terms are released into the wild - the problem is QT / pomo gets strange and wants woman to both mean something and nothing. Woman requires some understanding that it equals AHF, but also nothing to do with that. I feel like it should be that I owe no one entry into my definition of woman, and no one owes me entry into theirs... but that isn't where we are.

What happened to Derple's thread accusing Helen Joyce of advocating "trans elimination"? by MarkTwainiac in GCdebatesQT

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Yeah I can dig up a link if you want but it's uh... something.

Caregiver Who Abused 4-Year-Old Boy Pleads Guilty to Murder (2016) by IAmBeepBopBoop in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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There's no mention that Ms. King is a dude right?

NJ woman who forced daughter she fathered into child porn sentenced to 25 years in prison by jet199 in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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I'm so happy that this has stumbled into a beat where others get to posting these things before I do here! But also what the fucking fact.

Drinker kicked out of pub then paraded high street with privates on show by jet199 in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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Damn ya beat me!

How much do we owe to strangers? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

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Would love your thoughts!

Meta: What can we do to stimulate more activity here? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

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It's pretty safe - we're generally all respectful. But yeah it's not related to GCDQT.

How much do we owe to strangers? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

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Cathy Young had an interesting adjacent piece to this - about inconsistent leftist stances on the vulnerability of women while promoting the story of black vulnerability to / fear of whites, or at least the complicated ways these narratives get picked up, play out, etc. over identity politics.

https://medium.com/arc-digital/feminism-racism-and-the-damsel-in-distress-1aa65c5172cc

QT: Why TM don't mind using women's spaces when it suits them? And why TW don't follow their example? by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

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I'm not sure what your stance is on IDs but on the OG reddit r/GC sub I think I once said something to the extent of "At the end of the day no one really wants to police bathrooms but on the chance that weird things are going on and someone doesn't look like they belong, women would like the ability to have that person removed or otherwise informed that there are more appropriate bathrooms for them," which is to say if an obvs M is in the W bathroom, and probs doing more than just beelining to a toilet and back out with a hand wash - someone may talk with management.
Generally it was heavily upvoted and most GCs inc IIRC u/lovesloane agreed that that was pretty much the realistic GC take.

Announcement: new mod by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

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Not even honesttransgender or the truscum/transmed spaces will nip or at least accept an invite?

Looking for an active community, does anyone have a link to the discord server? by Luminie in GCdebatesQT

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If interested - if nothing else to whip up an invite code :) https://discord.gg/VRWVjhxf

Looking for an active community, does anyone have a link to the discord server? by Luminie in GCdebatesQT

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Meta: What can we do to stimulate more activity here? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

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Are you on facebook? There is a group there gender discourse fight club - https://www.facebook.com/groups/834310140404720

It's nearly 2kppl - but it is hard to keep trains from rolling away, esp mtfs, ftms seem to stick around more - though happy to generally talk about rules and what not if interested - but at the end of the day yeah without access to more moderate groups like honesttransgender, truscum, etc. or otherwise a larger user base- it'll be hard to draw new folks in.

Sexual assault of 10-year-old (by transwoman) sparks latest criticism of L.A. district attorney’s policies by IAmBeepBopBoop in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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But was he a woman or not when he followed the 10-year-old girl into the woman's bathroom and assaulted her? Inquiring minds want to know!

"FLEURISTA" presents: Thank You- A Retrospective of Commonality, Connection & Changing Minds (Art exhibition featuring GCdebatesQT) by Fleurista in GCdebatesQT

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Thank you for sharing! I'm so glad this space was part of your journey!

Woman jailed for having cocaine-fuelled sex with an Alsatian by divingrightintowork in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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Gotta give him credit when credit is due - this is a hell of a headline.

Jailed Minnesota mosque bomber says gender dysphoria drove her to attack by divingrightintowork in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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"sHe'S alReaDy sufFerEd sO mUch."

Walla Walla woman sentenced for her 4th child porn offense - YakTriNews by divingrightintowork in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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So weird that they don't mention anywhere that they are a penis person, trans, they have past identities, etc.

https://www.womenarehuman.com/male-transgender-pedo-sentenced-to-five-years-for-fourth-offense/

Jailed Minnesota mosque bomber says gender dysphoria drove her to attack by divingrightintowork in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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The articles on this so far have been interesting, with lines like "Who saw her as a father figure."

All: "Trans women" at the Olympics by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

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And of course everyone can name Hubbard, but few folks can name the respective medalists, or those Hubbard stopped from going.... so in the end, Hubbard still wins.

How many of you were not on the Reddit sub and if not, how did you learn about this space? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

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Meeee. There's a discord, btw!

Link here - https://discord.gg/4VFV4pV4

Woman charged after allegedly sexually assaulting boy, 6, in Toronto park by slushpilot in TheseAreNotOurCrimes

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Damn...

Both: In light of recent events. In what context is Voyeurism and Indecent Exposure acceptable? Is there a rational justification for making an exception for males who claim to be women? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

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When my state introduced self-ID in bathrooms there was no decrease in bathroom violence, because there wasn't really any existent bathroom violence. Also I've had no problems using male restrooms when necessary. How many times have you been physically attacked in the bathroom when making a beeline to the stall, then sink, then back out?

QT: What rights don’t trans people have? by wokuspokus in GCdebatesQT

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cool low effort story bro - but sure "I have the ability to flirt, engage in courtship, or form a relationship and not fear that my biological status may be cause for rejection or attack, nor will it cause my partner to question their sexual orientation." Not "cis privilege" "Hollywood accurately depicts people of my gender in films and television, and does not solely make my identity the focus of a dramatic storyline, or the punchline for a joke." Not CP "I have the ability to not worry about being placed in a sex-segregated detention center, holding facility, jail or prison that is incongruent with my identity." Not CP in CA, MA, ME, WA, and many other states.... doesn't seem worth continuing given how bunk all of these are.

QT: What rights don’t trans people have? by wokuspokus in GCdebatesQT

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"Here's a list of made up things that mostly only men who identify as women care about and also are not actually privileges many actual women have. But also a lot of them aren't even accurate for men who identify as women and are pretty baseless."

Here are some examples of cis privilege:

I can use public restrooms that match my gender without fear of verbal abuse, physical intimidation, or arrest

I have the ability to walk through the world and generally blend-in, not being constantly stared or gawked at, whispered about, pointed at, or laughed at because of my gender expression.

Strangers call me by the name I provide, and don’t ask what my “real name” [birth name] is and then assume that they have a right to call me by that name.

I can reasonably assume that my ability to acquire a job, rent an apartment, or secure a loan will not be denied on the basis of my gender identity/expression.

I have the ability to flirt, engage in courtship, or form a relationship and not fear that my biological status may be cause for rejection or attack, nor will it cause my partner to question their sexual orientation.

If I end up in the emergency room, I do not have to worry that one gender will keep me from receiving appropriate treatment, or that all of my medical issues will be seen as a result of my gender.

My identity is not considered a mental pathology (“gender identity disorder” in the DSM IV) by the psychological and medical establishments.

People don't speculate that my gender identity is a result of abuse or trauma.

I have the ability to not worry about being placed in a sex-segregated detention center, holding facility, jail or prison that is incongruent with my identity.

I can easily find role models and mentors to emulate who share my identity.

Hollywood accurately depicts people of my gender in films and television, and does not solely make my identity the focus of a dramatic storyline, or the punchline for a joke.

I will not be harassed by the police or denied services at a bank or other institution because my legal sex does not match my gender presentation.

QT: What rights don’t trans people have? by wokuspokus in GCdebatesQT

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you should probably delete your account again, then?

QT: What rights don’t trans people have? by wokuspokus in GCdebatesQT

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And?

QT: What rights don’t trans people have? by wokuspokus in GCdebatesQT

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If a trans person is rejected because they're trans they fall under sex protection under pricewaterhousecoopers ann hopkins & and the more recent one I forget the name of. Please feel free to explain to me how they don't.

All: What would it take for everyone to be friends again? by Fleurista in GCdebatesQT

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It'd be interesting but also so hard to put back in the bag - what about all of the people who already changed their documents?

All: What would it take for everyone to be friends again? by Fleurista in GCdebatesQT

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Likely an apology and an understanding that such social norms are not universal and signaling a respect for the different social norms of many women?

All: What would it take for everyone to be friends again? by Fleurista in GCdebatesQT

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I mean the fact that TRAs take it as a persona affront that women want to gather in private on the basis of their femaleness is pretty fucking bad.... how is one supposed to coexist with people who take issue at such a basic decency / respect?

All: What do you make of the Christiane Volling case? by nausicaa in GCdebatesQT

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I think we've pretty much already done this in modern society thanks to the work of ppl like Alice Dreger. Leave IS bodies alone until they're old enough to decide what they want.

Answers to 12 Bad Anti-Free Speech Arguments: Featuring That XKCD Cartoon Everyone Likes to Quote! - Areo by Chipit in censorship

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here for this.

GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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OK? I have no issue not stanning for TMs if they don't want to be included under my feminism. Not really sure what your'e saying / what it has to do with the original response that wasn't addressed already.

GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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Do you understand what allyship is, yes or no? Women can understand and empathize with disregard for personal boundaries on the basis of sex.

Everything Else by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

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ohhi! I'm doing pretty ok! The gcdebatesqt discord is humming along nicely. We swung from spring to summer in record time. I just won an eviction and damages court case against a shitty sublettor (I'm not a landlord). Work is starting to pick back up. Life is returning.... Yeah, it's.. .pretty ok.

GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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I generally support private orgs and spaces having their own rules that can be exclusionary. This includes churches.

GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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Why would we care what other women do with their selves, or if they don't want to call their selves women anymore? Though if men have issue with women invading their intimate spaces, say women wearing shirts that say things like "three hole faggot," flooding gay bars and complaining about the transmisandry... we will stan for them and support them in keeping their spaces sex segregated and hope they'll do the same for us.

Any Gender Critical people here who are in the Art World? by Kai_Decadence in GenderCritical

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Haha I'm pretty ok, nothing super eventful! And yeah I hope they have found the right path for them. Hope to see ya in the FB group!

Any Gender Critical people here who are in the Art World? by Kai_Decadence in GenderCritical

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oh shit saw your post about being banned - I'm so sorry - people are super stalkery holy fuck. It took me a moment then I realized we chatted before. How goes everything in the life of being a femmy gay guy? Also the friend I connected you with detransitioned / deidentified and is back to being a male/man :0

Doctor: Time for transgender treatment industry to “follow the science” by BiologyIsReal in GenderCritical

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"Doctor Ladinsky claims that science is on the side of the transgender treatment industry. It is not. I read the scientific literature on this subject all day long. Virtually all of it is comprised of the lowest form of scientific evidence; small studies, with few patients, followed for short periods, all of them biased by self-selection (the patients who have committed suicide don’t come back to answer their vague questionnaires about their sense of happiness). "

For QT: Why is gender identity different than religion in social protocols? by divingrightintowork in GCdebatesQT

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I mean I believe humans are sexually dimorphic, just like literally every other mammal... and that's going to.. show up in places and ways... useful in considering societal policies, but not really on an individual level... So like, sexed changing rooms are fine because while any given man is not necc A Jerk, the frequency of men who are jerks to women is much higher than women who are jerks to men (and other women), plus average man is bigger stronger than average woman. Like sure there may be a woman who is bigger and stronger than randomly selected man, but probably not.

Is that essentialist?

Re LibFem, I just don't see the value in really digging into the label either which way.... I'm not really an ideologue... I suppose you could call liberalism an ideology, though it's.... hard to really squeeze into that, it's more of a value, for a pluralistic society.

Teacher Suspended After Saying George Floyd Would be Alive If He Complied by scrubking in politics

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I hope that teacher sues, and wins. What was the teacher supposed to do, lie?

Benefits of Transsexual Surgery Disputed As Leading Hospital Halts the Procedure (Published 1979) by divingrightintowork in GenderCritical

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A study on detransitioners came out not too long ago, one of the prominent reasons for detransitioning is transitioning only exacerbated their dysphoria...

Feminist sheroine Kara Dansky: THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS OBLITERATING WOMEN AND GIRLS by BEB in GenderCritical

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Kara is based. I'm glad we have her. It's a shame she left the ACLU... only in so much that they could use not-shitty ideologues...

For QT: Why is gender identity different than religion in social protocols? by divingrightintowork in GCdebatesQT

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You seem to be misreading / missing the question and the emphasis that it is about social protocols around people with religious identities vs people with gender identities?

Benefits of Transsexual Surgery Disputed As Leading Hospital Halts the Procedure (Published 1979) by divingrightintowork in GenderCritical

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yeah shockingly a lot of GCs/RFs are ok with there being medical options available so long as they're done under an ethical research / cost / benefit informed framework, with no collateral... which is what a lot of this seemed to be.

Benefits of Transsexual Surgery Disputed As Leading Hospital Halts the Procedure (Published 1979) by divingrightintowork in GenderCritical

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So, this is an interesting article....from the 1970s, on research on the efficacy of cross-sex-medicalization. TLDR - it seems like this all was being explored in very good faith, with quality research & records being kept, in the mid-20th century & the conclusion was that there generally wasn't a clear consistent provable benefit to any cross sex medicalization in terms of improving quality of life so the programs generally shuttered or faded out.... Any potential evidence of quality of life improvements for cross sex medicalization only showed benefits if the recipients were heavily gatekept by the medical practitioners / industry, which is more or less orthogonal to what a lot of people here seem to believe (but if I'm wrong, please feel free to let me know). It's just so fascinating that all of this was happening, research was being done, outcomes were being tracked, and no one seems to use any of this for contemporary arguments about the efficacy / lack thereof for CSM (cross sex medicalization). To explain, people who were rejected for SRS then got it anyway generally had poor outcomes. I believe there was some life improvement on some folks who got CSM who did pass through screening. Like, why aren't we doing any tracking or studies like this today? Why aren't people looking through the research from the mid-20th century on this? FWIW a lot of GCs/RFs were actually ok with the classic gatekeeping model for... a lot of reasons, including low levels of collateral.

For QT: Why is gender identity different than religion in social protocols? by divingrightintowork in GCdebatesQT

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Uh probably not very essentialist, but what does essential mean to you? I'm also not really much of a radical. I guess I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.... I believe myself to follow the values of liberalism, probably with a leftist bent. I don't see why I couldn't be a liberal feminist, which I would consider different than a "Libfem," or I suppose "Liberal Feminist." I don't reject a label just because others use it poorly or incoherently. I'm just not sure if there's a definition of feminism that is meaningful and relatable enough to attach to myself. I don't really see the point or purpose.

For QT: Why is gender identity different than religion in social protocols? by divingrightintowork in GCdebatesQT

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Sure! At a glance this seems to be an ok description of it - https://www.liberalcurrents.com/liberalism-article-paul-crider/ Current liberalists I enjoy are people like Helen Pluckrose, Jonathan Haidt, Greg Lukianoff, Jonathan Rauch... The ACLU, circa 1978 was a liberal (as in liberalist) institution. Let me know if this helps. The word feminist is too meaningless to really mean much to me at this point, but if you can tell me what it means to you, I Can tell you if I'm a feminist by your definition :)

YWCA Canada signs on to statement "A trans woman has a woman's body, and is indeed biologically female." by BEB in GenderCritical

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... biologically male is a dumb problematic term but if a trans man tells you he's biologically male he is def't biomale.

GC: Is there such a thing as "transgender"? by Tea_Or_Coffee in GCdebatesQT

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These words have generally become useless, I'm more likely to use medically masculinized woman and medically feminized man, as they're well.. useful and clear. And if the person hasn't done any of those things, than they're just normal women and normal men. Trans is mostly just a euphemism for what I described above, "med masc woman," "Med fem man," assuming they did do those things.

GC: are there any QT/trans people that you like and admire and QT/trans: are there any GC people you like and admire? by questioningtw in GCdebatesQT

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OK! Here's a podcast / youtube video with one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUJxY0MzuRw

and here's a twitter of one - https://twitter.com/Tiresiasovid

and another - https://twitter.com/kirino_imouto/status/1390660645184495626

Also, I'd suggest looking up Men trapped in Men's bodies, by an AGP. I believe you can find a free copy online, but it's not on social media.

GC: Is attraction to "trans men", "trans women", etc separate from sexualities? Or is it not separate? And what are the arguments against "trans women are biologically female", "trans men are biologically male", "trans women are less of a man/male", and "trans men are less of a woman/female"? by CuteAsDuck in GCdebatesQT

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I can speak from my own experience - and that should probably answer your questions...

IME Sex with trans women feels like sex with a variety of men, men with erectile dysfunction, medically feminized men, or just normal men... and I've had a lot of sex with a lot of men, yes, including medically feminized ones.

Less experience with women who have been medically masculinized (but I've med masc'ed my own body some) - but yeah, IME there it... just feels like sex with a woman, or as a woman.

LMK if that helps!

TLDR - "No, not really. It makes sense heterosexual women are more likely to consider TWs than TMs, and so on... " Though sure I get why some may not really consider medically feminized men to be like uh, peak desirability.... and won't really consider medically masculinized women to be men... because they're not by most normies meaning of the word man.

GC: are there any QT/trans people that you like and admire and QT/trans: are there any GC people you like and admire? by questioningtw in GCdebatesQT

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You know I'm starting to see a group of men come forward who I call "based AGPs." they are incredibly open about their fetish, that it is a fetish, etc. and how a lot of TWs are abusing good will and being disiingenuous about their motivations . Like, who'd have thunk? Happy to share them if interested.

For QT: Why is gender identity different than religion in social protocols? by divingrightintowork in GCdebatesQT

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bravo - I've been saying that I'm not really GC or TRA, but I'm a liberalist... and it's the negative rights of GC/RF aligned people that are being most trampled right now, whereas TRAs are demanding highly undue positive "rights" which are really more like privileges.

For QT: Why is gender identity different than religion in social protocols? by divingrightintowork in GCdebatesQT

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I'll check the other posts and see if I have anything to share?

For QT: Why is gender identity different than religion in social protocols? by divingrightintowork in GCdebatesQT

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Aww I've missed you! ❤️

Transcritter walks into the wrong alley. by grixit in GenderCritical

[–]divingrightintowork 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have you tried any of the non-political circles?

Transcritter walks into the wrong alley. by grixit in GenderCritical

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Yeah that's valid - it's hard because while in theory Ovarit is really just about a women's space for women, it was made manifest by the banning of r/GC, so that was the point of connection.... Hopefully it will keep growing though, and there will be the like more politicized spaces, and then the like "Just be chill and nerd out about knitting" spaces - they DO have apolitical circles, like knitting ones!

And yet another Reddit post is locked down because it had an opinion against Transgenders by [deleted] in WatchRedditDie

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got a removereddit link?

Transcritter walks into the wrong alley. by grixit in GenderCritical

[–]divingrightintowork 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lipstick Alley is a really unique space, and I'm not going to lie, I'm super jelly of Black women for creating and having it.

Never-Before-Seen Drone Footage from Charlottesville 2017 Protests Reveals Enormous Extent of Media Lies and Propaganda by scrubking in politics

[–]divingrightintowork 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure how they got to the conclusion that he couldn't have known he was driving into people...?