Colin Flaherty, RIP | Counter-Currents. A simple approach to red pilling the normies, calm consistent repetition of the facts. by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We should all be doing this as a matter of course, but now is a good time to download copies of his videos now that he's not around to distribute them himself.

r/forwardsfromhitler & r/forwardsfromklandma are unironically alt-right goldmines. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now that you've described how it could be done, it hardly seems impossible. A quick glance through the sub shows enough genuinely laughable garbage that would be easy even for us to poke fun at for camouflage.

The horseshoe theory reminds me why it's better to identify as centrist... by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You've landed upon a key weakness in the whole ideal of organizing society on the basis of truth. Things that are true, are true for everyone. Therefore they cannot serve the function of delineating one group from another. For example, if I say that the sky is blue and you agree with me, that could be because a) you're of my tribe, the Blue Sky People; or b) the sky actually is blue and we're both remarking on the fact. However, if I say that the sky is green and you agree with me, (b) is ruled out. You're of the Green Sky People like me, not those filthy Blue-Skyers. Your assent to the lie says something about our relationship that assent to the truth could never do. In this way, a lie that is not too blatantly false serves as a marker of group identity. To "believe" in such a lie requires what you are calling faith.

Though you sound too hung up on the idea of left and right being opposites and centrism being "between" them, I think what is actually going on is that you are trying to avoid being in groups that require faith as a condition of membership, instead "following the facts". The result is that you are never too far from any particular camp, but not really in any of them either. I think this is fine for individuals, but I don't see that it works well for large groups. Perhaps more to the point, groups that do adopt some form of lie have that additional tool to maintain cohesion in the face of adversity.

r/forwardsfromhitler & r/forwardsfromklandma are unironically alt-right goldmines. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's all well and good that these exist, but for them to actually convert normies we need to have a presence in those subs. Take the black-white rape thread. The image has the url to the relevant report, yet the top comment is:

I highly doubt zero black women weren't rape by white men.That's clearly BS.

Translation: "I didn't actually read the document, I just assume they're lying because they're nahtzees lol".

There's a guy asking "what does the source actually say", someone replies with the link and comments "the poster is wrong, obviously, but i don't have time right now to write down the stats". Nowhere in the ensuing thread is it evident that anyone actually saw the 0.0 that is clearly present in the black rape victim/white perp cell of Table 42. There should have been one of our guys in the thread to screenshot the table with the zero circled in red.

This guy correctly notes that 25.2% (with an asterisk) of the black-victim cases have an unknown/available race for the perp. Someone should have taken him to task about how a victim could possibly not know the race of the perp and how that 25.2% should be interpreted in light of that consideration.

This guy should have been pressed on the whole "The reason why [BM/WF is more common than WM/BF] is a little more complicated, but it probably has something to do with the fact that we as a society percieve black people as more masculine" because that's a road toward racial realism, but none of our guys were around to do it.

This guy doesn't understand the difference between past and present. No one calls him out on it.

A normie coming across this page would see a meme that is outside the realm of permissible thought and a bunch of comments that wrongly suggest there is no need to think any more on the matter. And the normie, who is lazy, sees no reason to think they're wrong. So nothing changes.

It would be too obvious a brigade to necro a 5-month old thread, but we do need people keeping an eye on these subs who will step in and calmly, subtly, and non-wignattily draw the conversation the way it needs to go.

People who used to be liberal/leftist that turned to the far right or ethno nationalist, what made your views change? by [deleted] in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was permanently turned off from conventional conservatism by its dogged refusal to stop being stupid about evolution in the 2000s. For about a decade afterward I was a liberal by default. I was peripherally aware of race-nuttery and gender-nuttery but didn't think they had any effect in the real world. Then sometime in 2016 I saw the feminist response to the New Year of Sexual-Assault-by-Muslim in Cologne and was utterly appalled by both. Later that year I saw a video of Ben Shapiro (I know) doing his thing at Yale or somewhere, and while I approved of his "owning the libs" I thought his positions relating to race were laughably weak. So basically I realized that left-nuttery does have real-world consequences. it needs to be successfully opposed, and conventional conservatism does not have what it takes.

Refuting the Absurdity of Hyper Relativsm, The Notion that Any One Person's Opinion Is Just As Valid As Another's by Richard_Parker in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I think you're mostly on the losing side of the argument as far as artistic or cultural subjects are concerned, and considering the way this "hyper-relativism" is usually employed. When your interlocutor says "who are you to say, everyone is entitled to his opinion”, what he actually means is "I like this thing, I don't understand why I like it well enough to articulate the reasons to you, and I don't like that you don't like what I like so please shut up".

It's not a question of refuting the claim "everyone is entitled to his opinion", taken to mean "everyone knows what pleases him" in this context, because that interpretation is simply the truth. You have to reorient the discussion around what people should like which is different. Normative vs positive. You have to move the other person from a world where the purpose of consuming art/culture is to induce pleasure, to a world where one uses art/culture to cultivate taste. That's a lot easier said than done. I find it helps to be as specific as possible about what you like about e.g. the screenplay of Taxi Driver, because you will be more readily understood and you will find it easier to talk about objective quality.

I don't expect this to work all that often. When I was young, I enjoyed listening to hymns at church. When I was older, I noticed how mind-numbingly simple the melodies were. Presumably they are simple because they're intended to be sung by the whole congregation, which includes people who are ... not savants. People like that usually are not going to appreciate Mozart's Der Hölle Rache the way an opera aficionado would, though it can happen.

Italian media criticizes US media for suppressing story about the murder of an Italian citizen in New York city by black criminal by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I deny that this is the problem

Perhaps I was not clear. I did not ask if you deny that it "is the problem"; I asked if you deny that it is true.

People of all races around the world commit random murders

Your homework is to find which ones commit more random murders per capita.

suggesting that blacks commit crimes because of the color of their skin

Do you believe that race and skin color are completely interchangeable concepts?

as if they get up in the morning, realize that they are people of color, and thus decide to go stab people.

You expect us to accept that some people "will go crazy and want to stab random people" merely because they lost a job, yet you also seem to think it absurd that any black people would go crazy and want to stab people for any reason related to their respective races. Make up your mind. This incident may help.

Twitter Bans Account Tracking Nancy Pelosi's Investments. by Tarrock in politics

[–]aukofthecovenant 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Current top comment:

Nothing wrong with this, Twitter is free to remove speech from its platform that it does not want to promote. The person behind the account is free to track Nancy's investments over at Parler.

8 hours later, further down in the comments, the same user writes:

It'll never go to parler because Twitter has hundreds of millions of users. Millions can see his tweets within seconds of making a new post. He wont get that at parler. Without Twitter's platform, the person behind the account knows their tweets wont be seen in large numbers so going to Parler is not worth the effort.

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Italian media criticizes US media for suppressing story about the murder of an Italian citizen in New York city by black criminal by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The story of the murder isn't suppressed

Where did you first hear about this story?

the color of skin isn't important

You're missing the point, so I'll help you out. As it says: "If the victim was black and the attacker a white man, especially if he was a member of a right-wing organization, the tragedy would've wound up as front page news". Do you deny this claim?

Consider that, in 2020, 900,000 New Yorkers lost their jobs, and 436,000 are still out of work.

You are clearly insinuating that a bunch of formerly law-abiding people are now out murdering because they are suddenly out of work. That would be strange, since murdering requires effort whereas the jobless could just sit around and do nothing, incurring no risk of death or imprisonment. And before you go off on "Well they're killing people to get money to buy food!", note that in this incident that is clearly not the case because:

the fact that nothing was stolen

Italian media criticizes US media for suppressing story about the murder of an Italian citizen in New York city by black criminal by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Times article deliberately omitted the fact that Pinkney has a long and violent criminal record

Because mentioning it would have raised the question of why such people are out among the public. We can't have people asking for more blacks in jail, now can we?

Meta-analysis suggests education causally raises IQ by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's to debunk? Because:

Education appears to be the most consistent, robust, and durable method yet to be identified for raising intelligence.

hardly seems implausible. The paper does not include the words "race" or "ethnic" anywhere, so the relevance to our thing is probably minimal. The only part of the abstract that raises an eyebrow for me is:

we found consistent evidence for beneficial effects of education on cognitive abilities of approximately 1 to 5 IQ points for an additional year of education.

which makes it sound like you can pump up IQ scores indefinitely by tacking on more years of education. Raise your IQ by up to 150 points by going to school for 30 years! Presumably the rest of the paper will make it clear what was meant by this sentence. For all we know, it's +1 IQ point per year for blacks and +5 per year for Asians or something.

Darrell Brooks feels "dehumanized". His mother says he's a good boy. by wristaction in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jail is not the answer,

If this guy had remained in jail instead of being let out on bail, six people would still be alive. I like that answer.

we believe what has happened is because he was not given the help and resources he needed

You could spout this cope in response to anything and anyone. "Ted Kaczynski was not given the help and resources he needed." At some point it stops being a legitimate position and becomes a punchline.

The Preservation of Fire by scormac1752 in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

As far as the meme is concerned, it's not about going back but valuing what came before.

Éric Zemmour just published his written speech in English on Counter-Currents by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think this is a translation done by CC and posted on their own initiative, not given to them by Zemmour.

Santa Inc. Official Trailer by socksucker in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Elves represent nature, beauty and nobility.

Tolkien elves, yes. Commercialized-Christmas elves, not in the slightest.

New COVID variant Omicron triggers global alarm by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I may be wrong, but iirc international travel has required proof of vaccination for months now. So if the new variant has appeared in multiple countries it would mean some vaccines are not effective enough.

The United States will restrict travel from South Africa and neighbouring countries effective Monday

That's circumvented easily enough. Just find your way to Mexico and cross the Rio Grande. It works for Somalis and Haitians.

Suddenly you're the ruler of your brand new ethnostate that's just what you dreamed: What are your first few laws or decrees? by la_cues in debatealtright

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  1. Complete amnesty for all anti-white behavior that took place in the past in exchange for a complete ban on all of it in perpetuity, punishable by exile to sub-Saharan Africa.

  2. You may only vote where you were born, and only if you still live there.

  3. The right to vote is earned by some kind of national service, which must be difficult or unpleasant. All those "jobs you don't want to do" that the blessed immigrants supposedly do would qualify, as would some forms of military service.

Did women in academia cause wokeness? by Fourth_stage in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not the lit match, I think, but certainly the gasoline thrown on the fire.

Biden reads ‘end of quote’ off teleprompter. Biden will parrot anything they write for him to say. by Chipit in news

[–]aukofthecovenant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People say "end of quote" all the time to make it unambiguous where the quotation (the other person's words) ends and the speech (the quoter's words) begins. It's especially common in political speech because it avoids giving the false impression that some political figure said something which he did not actually say, which could become a diplomatic incident. Biden saying it here is 100% innocuous.

Youtube is officially hiding the dislike bar. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the famous Chinese or Korean washing machine ad comes to mind.

For the uninformed, it's this one

For those who don't believe in anti-white double standards, compare the Chinese ad to the Italian version.

YouTube is removing the dislike count on all videos across its platform by trident765 in news

[–]aukofthecovenant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still obtuse. Obviously the truth being referred to in:

Hiding the truth doesn't make it go away.

is the truth that the downvote button was clicked X times, since that number is what's being hidden.

European redditors going crazy as zombies storm polish border! by [deleted] in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Immigrants" are only weapons if diversity is not a strength. Are you prepared to concede that?

YouTube is removing the dislike count on all videos across its platform by trident765 in news

[–]aukofthecovenant 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Don't be obtuse.

Youtube is officially hiding the dislike bar. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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This article shows some mockups of what the new engagement buttons will look like. The number of likes is still shown under the thumbs-up, but under the thumbs-down is just the word "Dislike". Only the video creator will be able to see the number of dislikes.

The article quotes a Youtube spokesperson as saying that the motivation is "because YouTube has a responsibility to protect creators, especially smaller creators, from harassment and dislike attacks". There's some blather about how this change will protect the mental health of creators, who I guess suffer mightily from artificially inflated dislikes. On the other hand, Youtube seems entirely unconcerned about artificially inflated likes. How strange...

This HAS TO be bullshit: Leftist studies that claim that "diversity" is a source of strength by tantamle in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The abstract of the second study says:

Trustworthiness declines when partners are of different races or nationalities. High status individuals are able to elicit more trustworthiness in others.

From the abstract in the third link, for the only one of the five studies that could possibly ascertain causality:

Study 5 found that people asked to imagine that they were living in a more racially diverse neighborhood were more willing to help others in need

In other words, the conversations went like:

Experimenter: "Imagine you're living in a more racially diverse neighborhood than you are now. Would you be more or less likely to help neighbors in need?"

Subject: "Well I don't want you to think I'm racist, so I'll say more likely."

Experimenter: "Aha! Diversity is a strength after all!"

From the fourth, which focuses on the case of Lewiston, Maine which Amren has more to say about:

Other recent findings that have shown lower levels of social capital amidst diversity may be a product of residential sorting, longer-term processes, or threshold effects.

In other words, the study was limited in the kinds of effects it could detect.

What happened to the Rabbi guy from Reddit? by randominteger in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

iirc he said that not enough normies were on saidit, so it wasn't worth the time for him to post. Haven't seen him here in over a year.

DR + Feminism by Dragonerne in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, you are out of the loop.

Name them, please.

DR + Feminism by Dragonerne in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll be the one to state the obvious.

Because our movement is well outside the mainstream, the type of person most easily recruited is the outsider. Incel gamerbros are high on that list. So it's no surprise that we have lots of manosphere partisans in our ranks, especially considering that there really are legitimate issues relating to women that the mainstream simply will not touch.

On the other hand, because our movement is about all future white people, it is necessarily concerned with white reproduction and therefore with relations between the white sexes. We want and need white women on board. So our movement must contain an alliance, however uneasy, between manosphere partisans and non-retarded white women. The common ground should be the incontrovertible:

  1. Each white generation should be of higher quality than the last. This means that higher-quality people should have more offspring per capita than lower-quality people.

  2. White people should be happy. Part of this is high-quality people being happy having many high-quality children.

It doesn't much matter how these get done as long as they do get done. Modern feminism does not do either so there is an opportunity for a DR "feminism". It seems to me, though, that the people trying to devise a DR-feminism are the usual male crowd. I am unaware of any women who are articulating means by which #1 and #2 can be achieved (am I just out of the loop?). The result is that the manosphere types have the megaphone and this results in zero forward progress.

However I doubt that many women are going to pipe up on the internet to say "here is what you must do to get us to happily have kids". Even the Level 1 Manospherians know that the game does not work that way. The relevant conversations will probably take place one-on-one, offline, between women and men whom they trust.

More evidence against “diversity” by tantamle in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even the U.N. now acknowledges that diversity can cause problems.

New Jared Taylor video reveals the Afghan refugees are worse than you can ever imagine. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

these "refugees" were never vetted

Of course they weren't. Actual vetting might have turned up cases where people would have to be sent back. Would liberals really be able to muster the backbone for that? Better from their standpoint not to puncture the fog of ignorance, making it easier to virtue-signal.

none of them were willing to fight for their country

It's so ridiculous that the narrative is "These people helped us, so we must take them in because they believe in Our Values™ - that's why they helped us!" as if we're necessarily getting the most virtuous Afghans (virtuous by liberal standards). In reality, many Afghans helped the American forces because they were being well compensated. So we're not getting the most virtuous, only the most mercenary.

CIA admits that China and Iran have executed entire networks of their spies by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The memo reprimands spies for poor tradecraft, being overly trusting of sources, underestimating foreign intelligence agencies and 'putting mission over security' by moving too fast and not paying enough attention to potential risks.

Prosperity and liberalism seem to breed people who expect things always to go right. We're now seeing the consequences of that in the spy services.

Chinese SIMPS gives away $75,000 to female e-celeb. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The simp life:

Man: "I must display my fitness to be a ... provider."

Woman: "Tee hee :-D"

Repeat

Two-thirds of businesses around the world are struggling to hire by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't have to be a genius to walk dogs outside. Or play golf. Or even take the time to clean up your house and plant a garden.

While these all sound pleasant, you'll note that none are particularly useful to broader society. The question that must be answered is how to get average people (a moving target) to contribute something that moves civilization forward, even if any one individual's contribution is infinitesimal. I will be the first to say that many jobs today do not really fit that description, and that the people in them would be happier (temporarily, at least) if their lives were filled by leisure.

Technological progress requires that at least some people must work. Yes, there are people who will do advanced things as leisure, but they depend on a supply chain that eventually ends with manual labor. The scientist needs lab equipment, which needs microchips, which need rare-earth metals, which need to be extracted from the ground. I would want the miners to see their work as having meaning in the context of the scientist's work.

Humans have less spare time to settle down and start a family.

It's a mistake to blame this on a lack of spare time. How much spare time would a "career-oriented" woman need to have before she decides to stop being "career-oriented" and have a family? Unfortunately, the situation is one of chicken-and-egg because women and men in the same labor force puts downward pressure on wages, making it harder for one person to support another plus kids at the accustomed standard of living.

Our movement's goal should be to get white people to reframe their priorities so that "spare time" is not a consideration when it comes to having children. You don't look for time to do it - you make time for it.

White kids choosing to play video games all day, their life has more meaning than just being another cog in a factory.

Does it really? I think you conflate "temporary pleasure" with "meaningfulness". I also think you see "being a cog" and "having a meaningful life" as mutually exclusive which they are not.

What are your thoughts on the voter fraud in US elections and the way it is shaping the modern MAGA movement and GOP? by Salos60000 in debatealtright

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It has really become a lightning rod to distract the party from the important issues like replacement and cultural subversion and to keep them complacent in the "Trumpist" nationalist cause

Exactly. Republicans have a tendency to put too much faith in rules ("muh Constitution"), and crying out "Voter fraud!" is basically saying "We'd win if only our opponents played by the rules!". Republicans simply can't resist that.

Two-thirds of businesses around the world are struggling to hire by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Instead of slaving away at a factory, people can go make music or art instead.

You're mind-blowingly optimistic about what the masses will do when no demands are placed on them. It's easy for smart, driven people who as a result do intellectual or artistic pursuits in their spare time to assume that everyone else is like them. That assumption is false. In reality, many people are neither smart nor driven.

New Jared Taylor Video: Diversity is ruining Science. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Text version here.

Consoom Diversity by scormac1752 in debatealtright

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The guy sued and lost in district court, then appealed and lost again in appellate court [1]. So at least the gambit didn't work this time.

Importing Afghanistan: A Very Stupid Idea with Very Powerful Enablers. And of course they put them in the Whitest part of America, along with Somalis. by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

[–]aukofthecovenant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That list looks more like "cities with relatively low costs of living" than "whitest cities". Note the absence of California cities and the near-complete absence of Pacific Northwest cities.

Success of far-right Brothers of Italy raises fears of fascist revival by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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For example, one of the key principles in Fasicm is that the ends justify the means; something an intellectual would prima facie disagree with (the ends are justified particularly when the means to those ends are justified).

Intellectuals do not stipulate what other intellectuals must agree with. To an actual thinking human, the question is always "do these ends justify these means?", about which reasonable people might disagree.

Lost generation: white children born during the COVID hysteria found to have massively lowered intelligence in new study by Bagarmoossen in debatealtright

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The kids being tested are barely over a year old, so what kind of tests are they being given? I'm sure the people administering said tests are dutifully wearing their masks. If the tests involve reading facial expressions, responding to tones of voice, or similar, masks would make them more difficult.

FBI Seizes Entire Bank Account of Conservative Talk Show Host (Nick Fuentes) After He Attended a Trump Rally by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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it was reported not long ago he was receiving bitcoin from a foreign entity

Late last year he got an enormous dollar amount in bitcoin from a sympathetic(?) Frenchman who committed suicide shortly thereafter. Is that what you refer to?

Hard charging Indian entrepreneur makes a fortune staging morality plays about hateful Karens and other racists by Jacinda in debatealtright

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you're looking at people who do not know the difference between reality and the fake world provided in the entertainment they consume.

There was no TV on the savannah, so humans evolved in an environment where they could trust their eyes.

The catastrophic failure of science worship during the COVID hysteria presents an opportunity for our side. Science-skeptical discourse will certainly gain steam in the coming months/years. by Bagarmoossen in debatealtright

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It's a great opportunity provided that you don't come off as a crank, which is easy if you point out only that which is so obvious that no ideological motivation is necessary to say it. For example:

  1. For science to be useful requires a foundation of trust and there are reasons we don't have it

  2. The demands of making a living as a scientist are often at odds with actually practicing the scientific method. See scientody vs. scientistry

Homeownership can bring out the worst in you by [deleted] in debatealtright

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You clearly misunderstood the point because this:

You don't think their age makes them more tempting targets for thugs?

No

is self-evidently absurd. What is true is that old wealthy people can and do structure their lives so as to avoid thugs in the first place, hence the stats. Obviously they have every incentive to keep doing that, which is basically what the article says they are doing.

Homeownership can bring out the worst in you by [deleted] in debatealtright

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You don't think their age makes them more tempting targets for thugs? Interesting.

Holocaust memorial outside Parliament to go ahead by SecureTheInevitable in debatealtright

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Architect Sir David Adjaye, who has led the design team, previously said "disrupting the pleasure of being in a park is key to the thinking" of the memorial.

Jesus. Does this man deliberately put garlic in his milkshakes, or rocks in his mattress, or staples in his burgers as well?

Homeownership can bring out the worst in you by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Older and wealthier people often have a preference for stability; they’re closer to retirement and more likely to be facing medical needs, as they are later in life.

And more likely to be cold-cocked while walking down the street by vibrant, diverse youths who are turning their lives around. Surely there's no connection.

agree or disagree? by Noloben in debatealtright

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don't make women feel there's no chance for redemption

Of course there's a chance for redemption - there always is. All women of this sort can, if they want, reject degeneracy in favor of our cause. One way to do that would be to prevent other women from making the same self-degrading decisions they did. Another way would be to vote for what needs to be voted for. I'm sure there are more.

Don't be surprised when women vote for a Nation's demise when they feel they can't atone for past shitty behavior.

This is a non sequitur and, coupled with use of the word "feel" in the preceding sentence, really underscores the cattiness that sometimes makes it easy for men to dislike women. Our cause is correct, moral, and necessary regardless of anyone's past behavior and regardless of what anyone feels. No one should lose sight of that.

The United States of South Africa by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Leftist stupidity actually pushed me to a pro-gun position, whereas I used to be a fence sitter. Then I noticed that one side of the fence was full of people consistently more moronic than the other side, and therefore that the other side was right. If one side of the fence is pozzed and queer and the other side is much less so, it's time to get off the fence.

I had the exact same experience.

PayPal Partners with ADL to Fight Extremism and Protect Marginalized Communities by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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This guy is an obvious troll. Ban his ass already.

His behavior will be illuminating for any on-the-fence lurkers. Let's not give in to frustration.

PayPal Partners with ADL to Fight Extremism and Protect Marginalized Communities by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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White supremacists violently stormed the capitol with no regard for law and order.

Let's not pretend that disregard for law and order is limited to Trump types. Besides, the January 6th protests were mostly peaceful.

Umbrella Man has been linked to Hate groups

Since I'd never heard this claim before, I'll save everyone else the bother of looking into it. "Umbrella Man" is the guy wearing a gas mask in this video. Minneapolis police made no headway identifying him for months until receiving an email tip saying that the Umbrella Man was one Mitchell Carson, who is basically a stereotypical skinhead type. Minneapolis Police requested a search warrant for that man's cell phone activity at the time of the window-smashing, which officials say/imply led to the Glorious Floyd Demonstrations becoming violent. This Mitchell Carson was, according to Minneapolis police, connected with a Hell's Angels biker gang and the Aryan Cowboys prison/biker gang.

There's a lot of loose language in the media reports about the investigation that (intentionally?) gives the impression that the police made a positive identification, proving that Umbrella Man = Mitchell Carson. In reality, the police were following up on a lead that appears not to have panned out. Carson was not charged at the time (late July last year) and apparently still has not been [1][2][3], so it is extremely implausible that he was Umbrella Man. The bottom line is that it is incorrect to say that Umbrella Man has been linked to hate groups because (still) no one officially knows who Umbrella Man was.

Simone Biles' withdrawal is more impressive than winning by [deleted] in debatealtright

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"She's black, so we might look racist if we say that what she did was bad, so instead let's enthusiastically say it was doubleplusgood!"

You have to list your policies and pitch them to a normie. What do you say? by NeoRail in debatealtright

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I think in this case the rich would just funnel their donations through NGOs and other types of "non-partisan" organisations. To an extent, this is already the model they are using.

My thinking is that "non-partisan" should count for nothing; no organization, period, gets to donate to political campaigns or organizations. So no NGO shell games, though you're probably right that there will be some whack-a-mole to enforce it. That shouldn't dissuade us from placing serious obstacles between wealth and power though.

You have to list your policies and pitch them to a normie. What do you say? by NeoRail in debatealtright

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can you imagine the headlines when a bunch of black cops end up being a bit too reluctant and refusing to police those areas.

I think that would enlighten a lot of normal people, which would be good for us.

You have to list your policies and pitch them to a normie. What do you say? by NeoRail in debatealtright

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  1. Diversity is not playing out as if it were a strength. For example, it is blazingly obvious that nobody cares when a white person is killed by police, or when a black person is killed by a black cop, but only when a black person is killed by a white cop, a situation that would not happen if not for diversity. Towards the goal of preventing race riots, we should as much as possible arrange to have blacks policed by other blacks. One way this could done rather easily would be to allow sufficiently black/white/etc areas (neighborhood, districts, towns, whatever) to request that they be policed only by blacks/whites/etcs and require police to respect that decision. I'm not sure that many places would make that deal, but they should at least have the freedom to do so. The long-term goal here is to make blacks more responsible for running their own affairs in order to make future separation easier.

  2. Media portrayals of people and events affect public opinion and therefore affect who wins elections. This means that the media has (indirect) political power, and as such the general public should be way more cynical about media people than they currently are. Rather than mandate something impractical like "journalists shall always report the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth", I think it would be enough to require that journalists identify themselves as whatever political orientation they align with. No more of this "our whole newsroom is left-wing, but we're an unbiased publication!" - at the very least, your readership will know that your whole newsroom is left-wing and can make their own judgments about the significance of that. We can tell the journalists it's like listing their pronouns.

  3. Ultra-wealthy people also have more political influence than is probably healthy. I propose that political donations be allowed only in one's capacity as a private citizen (i.e. no corporate donations), and donations per person per year be capped at a dollar amount pegged to the national median income.

Half Black/Half Japanese Pro-BLM Athlete lights the Olympic Torch. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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An irony probably soon followed by that of the fastest sprinters still being blacks "from" various countries, the best weightlifters still being whites "from" various countries, etc. The "diversity" would just make racial differences more salient.

New: Government Whistleblower Signs Sworn Affidavit Saying Over 45,000 Have Died from Vaxx! by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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very little about U.S politics has changed all these years that makes politicians more trustworthy in the past.

There's a very relevant difference between trustworthy and trusted. One could argue that politicians of any time and place are never trustworthy, but that doesn't mean that people don't trust them anyway. The fact is that Americans trust their government at pretty much the lowest rate ever, which could just mean that they're wising up to what has always been true.

Half Black/Half Japanese Pro-BLM Athlete lights the Olympic Torch. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Media people like to say "Multiracial athletes like Naomi Osaka and Rui Hachimura are helping to redefine what it means to be Japanese", but somehow they never get around to making the equally valid claim that they are redefining what it means to be black. Funny how that is.

Can we do something about the obvious trolls? by Blackbrownfreestuff in debatealtright

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You're complaining far more strongly about these people than any of their comments warrant.

these arent opposing views, these users are just clowning on our small community

Since we are correct, opposing views will tend to appear clownish to us. What matters is what a casual visitor sees. It would be better for that person to see "obvious trolls" (aka people operating from the prevailing moral framework) getting deservedly refuted, than to see us celebrating the Trollerdammerung or whatever.

‘The future of humanity will be less white and increasingly African’ by [deleted] in debatealtright

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many of us dont like kids and dont want them. i know thats impossible to wrap your head around right?

No, that's fairly easy to wrap around. The point is that obviously more people wanted more kids in the past, so something must have changed, and none of these prima facie reasonable government interventions have reversed the trend, so the people in charge must be overlooking something important. We here have a range of ideas about what it might be.

You Will Die. Anon discovers a speech by Chinese General. by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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China & Israel already have the best weapon against America. It's called Capitalism putting their own interests first.

Fixed it for you.

‘The future of humanity will be less white and increasingly African’ by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Over a period of 15 years, the South Korean government has invested $178bn in a wide range of social benefits, such as paid leave, free health care, childcare, primary schools, tuition scholarships and other perks, including free iPhones, in a bid to raise birth rates in the country. The trouble is, none of this has made a difference.

When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however politically incorrect, must be the truth.

‘The future of humanity will be less white and increasingly African’ by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Spreading despair is bad for the movement. Conquer it within yourself.

You can't make this stuff up: Biden literally kneels before Israeli leader. by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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Thanks for putting in the legwork.

You can't make this stuff up: Biden literally kneels before Israeli leader. by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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There's no reason he couldn't have conveyed his "admiration" to Ravitz verbally, while standing. It is telling of Biden's psychology that his first instinct was to kneel.

Britain - From Empire to This by DisastrousDepth14 in debatealtright

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So you admit that women being street cops is bad.

‘The future of humanity will be less white and increasingly African’ by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Your "optimism" is belied by the facts that HIV hasn't really done enough to keep the numbers down and has spread to cause problems in the rest of the world.

Even non-whites are noticing White Genocide, and are praising it. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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If you want examples of real anti-White bias by Google search "American inventors"

And then search for "inventores americanos". For some reason Google knows what you want if you ask it in Spanish.

Even non-whites are noticing White Genocide, and are praising it. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Which groups are killing off whites?

Whenever a nonwhite living in a white country kills a white person, it is a preventable death for which multiracialism is ultimately to blame.

Who have imposed measures on whites that is intended to prevent births?

Whenever a white person has a child with a nonwhite person instead of a white person, a white birth has been prevented.

Even non-whites are noticing White Genocide, and are praising it. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Your idea of genocide is too Hollywood. The U.N. uses a considerably broader and more mature definition:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Which arguably doesn't go far enough, since lack of proven intent would not make the targeted group any less extinct.

Anarcho-feminists storm Austrian newspaper over ‘racist’ reporting in high-profile teen gang-rape & murder case by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Austria is reeling from a tragedy that saw a 13-year-old girl die after being drugged and gang-raped. Yet a local feminist group seemed more enraged by media reporting the suspects’ nationality and casting a shadow on refugees.

Modern feminism in a nutshell.

Eventually, the group fled once police arrived at the scene.

I'm guessing the policemen scared them absolutely shitless.

He also mocked the victim by saying that it was her “own fault that she died.”

Clearly a gentleman of the European Enlightenment.

Two of the four suspects have had their asylum applications denied

Then they should have been deported.

One of them, a 22-year-old who is still on the run and was put on an international wanted list, had been convicted three times already and was cleared for deportation back in 2017.

Then why was he not deported in 2017? Oh, wait.

Their lawyer, Florian Hoellwarth, said the suspects “presented a threat to the population” and had to be better monitored by the authorities.

That assumes that the authorities would have deigned to lift a finger to prevent this crime, whereas they can't even deport failed asylum seekers and convicted criminals.

Rural racism in Dorset: Why is our countryside 98% white? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Of course it is, but I derive pleasure from helping xim make our arguments for us.

A better explanation for my political views. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Out of curiosity, what were your views before this change?

Rural racism in Dorset: Why is our countryside 98% white? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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So, you admit that the influx of outsiders is bad.

How to Separate (Written last year by Jared Taylor) by DisastrousDepth14 in debatealtright

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I've said this before, but I'll be surprised if separation can ever work in a nation that controls nuclear weapons. We have the USSR as an example of how this can go horribly wrong.

You have an inflated idea of "horribly". But even ignoring that, you can surely see that whatever you think about the result, the breakup of the USSR was forced by economics. The breakup of the US could be forced by some other factor.

Now today, Russia invades and constantly annexes territory from it.

First, if the USSR had not broken up, Ukraine would be completely "annexed" by Russia instead. Obviously the present situation is better for Ukraine. Second, it is a mistake to blame this solely to Ukraine's lack of nuclear weapons. There are many non-nuclear neighboring countries that Russia does not bother, and there are non-expansionist nuclear powers (Pakistan).

When Texas tries to build a wall to cut the flow of illegal immigrants, California will bomb the shit out of Texas

No. If the illegal immigrants are going to California directly, and there's little reason why they wouldn't, there's no need for California to care about what Texas does or does not do.

White GeNOcide in perspective by peaceful in debatealtright

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I'm guessing it's 10% of new marriages, not 10% of all existing marriages.

Is the olympics a athelic competition or a freak show? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Call it the Africa Games or something.

Wakandalympics

More diversity nonsense from Hollywood, Snow White is now brown. by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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their choices and actions do

People's choices and actions are ultimately directed by their brains, which are not fully under their conscious control and were subject to natural selection. The environments in which this selection took place were very different between the groups people call races, so the real surprise would be if these groups were exactly the same in behavior, intelligence, and personality. The result is that, whether you care about race or not, that different races have different distributions of traits to which people assign moral value: impulsivity, propensity to invest in children, altruism, aggressiveness, mental stability, and so on.

What do you think of my views? by EdLimonovFan in debatealtright

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Since you said nothing about what is overwhelmingly most relevant to us, I'll ask you directly - do you support ethnic homelands for all white peoples? If yes, then everything else you said is ancillary.

As for what I personally think about what you did say:

anarchistic and sex-positive version of National Bolshevism

I'm not familiar enough with Limonov to really know what you're talking about, but I'd say that it is sometimes useful to have a state apparatus to facilitate mass-scale coordinated action, so I'm suspicious of anarchism. I approve of "sex-positivity" in the sense that sex is a natural part of life that the people doing it can and should undertake deliberately for the benefit of future generations; I disapprove of the "sex is pleasurable and that's all I need to know, woohoo!" sense of "sex-positivity".

I consider that the denial of White identity and oppression of White people in the US and Europe is intimately connected to the class struggle.

I think we're pretty much agreed on this point. To me it's pretty clear that the ruling elite despise whites who are culturally low-class and therefore feels no guilt about e.g. opening up a meatpacking plant in some rural white town and staffing it with cultural and racial aliens from elsewhere. There is evidence that managers are aware that racial diversity lowers the chances of workers unionizing. And I think there's a sense that to be one of the "fashionable" high-society crowd, a white persion must basically say that white people are bad.

favor abolishing the police, but for class reasons rather than "systemic racism"

I'm curious to see your reasoning on this. To me it's pretty much a given that some people will need to experience the stick, rather than the carrot, to follow the law. When those people break the law, someone must go pick them out of the general population so that the stick can be applied. Whoever does that basically is the police, regardless of what they are called. I don't think you could pull off a police-free, majority-black polity and keep any kind of advanced civilization.

The Secret IRS Files: Trove of Never-Before-Seen Records Reveal How the Wealthiest Avoid Income Tax by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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The effectively two-party system in America tends to create an unfortunate rift between what one supports (i.e. in one's heart and mind) and what one votes for (i.e. in the voting booth).

It’s Time to Declare War on White-Nationalist Terrorism, By David French, National Review August 5, 2019 by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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And just like the ISIS terrorists our nation and our allies have confronted in the great cities of the West

Who would not even have been there had you people listened to us.

Substitute “jihadist” for “white supremacist” or “white nationalist” and then imagine how we’d act.

Substitute "black nationalist" for "white nationalist" and then imagine how we'd do comparatively nothing.

In fact, given the magnitude of the issues at stake, decency is even more urgent. It helps keep emotions under control.

The underpinnings of emotional self-control can only be biological, and clearly are not evenly distributed because all these killers Mr. French condemns didn't have enough of it whereas most white people do. Perhaps, Mr. French, you would care to inquire about differences in self-control between whites and blacks?

And our nation’s leaders need to focus on reconciliation and unity

"White people must pay up because otherwise The Multiracial Utopia would disintegrate!"

Our Architecture by DisastrousDepth14 in debatealtright

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There was a great podcast with ZMan & Greg Johnson where they talked some about architecture: https://counter-currents.com/2020/10/counter-currents-radio-the-z-man/

Top U.S General Defends Critical Race Theory. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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"I've read Mao Zedong. I've read Karl Marx. I've read Lenin. That doesn't make me a communist. So what is wrong with understanding — having some situational understanding about the country for which we are here to defend?"

But has he read Jared Taylor?

Fetishization of Downs Syndrome and Other Disabilities in This Country: A Red Pill? by Richard_Parker in debatealtright

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I think this all boils down to a combination of virtue-signaling and pathological altruism. You have people who want to be seen being nice, and it's easy to be nice to an attractive normal person but hard to be nice to someone with a mental disorder who might not fully grasp what's going on. Hence doting upon the DS kids.

I'm not sure how any of this is supposed to be redpilling. I guess you could use it to show how many people worry about "making everyone feel included" over actually achieving anything.

They are being spearheaded to the most recent campaign to ban abortion, which would make it illegal to abort a fetus that is detected to have downs, or other mental retardation or disability. This, to me, is incredibly wrongheaded.

Quoth Ted: "Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful."

Finally, most recently in the news there is this down syndrome girl who was excluded from a Jr High cheerleading squad yearbook photo. The mother insists she was actually an official manager.

Maybe my experience with DS people is too limited, but how can anyone possibly think someone like that would be officially managing anything? This should make the whole story immediately smell fishy.

How do you debunk the argument that "certain races need time to catch up?". by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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For that to be a real argument rather than a thought-terminating incantation, they would have to provide some examples where blacks actually did catch up to whites over time. crickets...

Happy Juneteenth! by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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I have never successfully had a debate on this sub because things always devolve into the morons here insulting me with name-calling.

This is true.

Do most Americans want to live in a multiracial neighborhood? by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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I think it's like this:

  1. Most white Americans will say to a pollster that they wouldn't mind living in a multiracial neighborhood.

  2. What they really mean is that they wouldn't mind living with nonwhites who basically act like whites.

  3. There aren't enough nonwhites like that to go around.

  4. As a result, these white Americans tend to (but don't always) gravitate towards places with lots of white Americans.

Jimmy Dore speaks out against the adverse side effects of the vaccine by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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the result was at least 600,000 dead in the U.S.

It will be interesting to see the quality-adjusted life years figures for covid once they're tabulated.

The Police are Willing Participants in the NWO by Frenologist in debatealtright

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forced to ration water because they can't plan for droughts

Who is "they", exactly, and why can't they plan for droughts?

The Police are Willing Participants in the NWO by Frenologist in debatealtright

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Last year when the police fled Seattle, Leftists swooped in and tried segregating White people. Now imagine that but on a national level.

The key here being that the police did not immediately swoop back in, the reason being that those who command the police were sympathetic to those who displaced the police. That is the problem.

Edit: And total anarchy makes it perfect for Russia or China to send their army in and claim a piece of the U.S.

In this case "anarchy" would have to mean the government being unable command the military. That is not what we're talking about here.

"You're Obsessed With Race" by EuropeanAwakening14 in debatealtright

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There's this thing called "travel", which I guess you forgot about at some point during 2020.

The left's Charlottesville in 2021? by lokke767 in debatealtright

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Hailgate is the more apt comparison.

A much better idea at debunking the Far-Left/Multiculturalism. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I just realize however, that the society we live in has made touching any subject that deals with intelligence and genes to be completely taboo.

I get it. I guess the question here is whether you want to merely detach your liberal opponent or liberal listeners from liberalism and let them just float free, or whether you want them to reach escape velocity and land here. I'm certainly not going to insist that you broach subjects you'd rather not touch, but you should recognize that your opponent may agree with everything you do say, then think "Well all races are fundamentally equal in all abilities so...", and basically go right back to being a liberal.

A much better idea at debunking the Far-Left/Multiculturalism. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I think you're deliberately missing the point.

So there's no racism when they haven't passed the entry level requirements like Asians or other Black immigrants have.

The point being that even without any "racism", or any differing "cultures/preferences", there could still be a disparity due to different distributions of ability between races. Now, you might be able to avoid bringing that up by interposing all this talk about education. You might even convince someone that way. But:

But by looking at SAT Scores and other educational benchmarks, it's a fact that Black Americans are not even the most highly educated groups in the U.S.

all you do is shift the conversation from disparities in employment to disparities in educational attainment, but without addressing why the new disparities exist. Ultimately you are trying to explain why Biological Category A has different outcomes than Biological Category B, but without invoking biology. I don't see why you expect to succeed.

To be honest, proportional representation can only work if the Left actually had the numbers that say "Huge amounts of Blacks applied for "x" job, but the vast majority still got rejected".

Huge amounts of qualified blacks, who might not exist for several reasons.

The country of Brazil used that for their own black population, and today, it's not complete Africa tier.

Why not just lead with this fact?

If Black Americans were also forced to give up their low IQ culture, then no one would whine about their lack of doctors or scientists.

I suspect that If blacks suddenly stopped acting and/or being low-IQ, more people would be more distraught over that shortage because right now they understand, even if only intuitively and are unwilling to verbalize it, that the reason for the "shortage" now is that blacks tend to be lower-IQ.

Percentages who say political correctness is a big problem in the US today by Fourth_stage in debatealtright

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A scathing indictment of democracy. Turns out the people do not actually get what they want.

A much better idea at debunking the Far-Left/Multiculturalism. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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At least by saying "culture/preference" it's an insensitive way of saying we don't need equality for every job.

Of course we don't need it; to the leftist the question is why we don't have it already. Sure, by saying "it's their culture/preference" you avoid talking about biology, but you also invite the leftist to respond "With enough social engineering we can one day fix the problem indicated by this inequality".

Considering how many professions are out there, I actually think it's complete lunacy there is even an argument that every job needs representation.

It has nothing to do with the number of possible professions. The "argument" is that if all groups were equally smart/driven/capable there would naturally be proportional representation in every field, and since we don't have that there must be something unnatural that needs to be fixed.

The Left just needs to be less dishonest by thinking EVERYONE wants to do those jobs

Wants to, yes, but also can.

Chris Roberts and Gregory Hood are asking listeners for suggestions for their new podcast, "Left, Right, and White." What would you like them to discuss? by Jacinda in debatealtright

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I take it you have seen Ryan Faulk's criticism of GGS.

I don't think so, at least not from him. I remember the first time I read GGS I got to the part where Diamond says (paraphrasing) "ackshually, Melanesians are probably smarter than Europeans because Melanesians are more physically active", which isn't even logically sound - all you could say is that Melanesians are smarter than they would be if they lived the lifestyle of Europeans, but that's not the same thing. DIamond just casually saunters on assuming that everyone already believes all groups are equally intelligent. One of my first redpills.