Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Well, if you follow the news of the last 24 months, most people have come to reject working for the sake of working.

I'm not sure if I mentioned it in this thread already, but the mindless careers like dishwashers, cashiers, factories etc are no longer in high supply. It's McDonalds that is begging people to join them for an extra $1000 bonus, instead of normal people just applying and preying they get a spot.

In fact, I would argue there is a revolution going on that is leading to a more decentralized society. Look at Work from home. Nothing hurts Capitalists more than seeing their workers refuse to come into the office everyday, because most people would rather be at a home and as a result, have more free time to be with their families, while still enjoying the same benefits of getting a paycheck.

All the High IQ people have quickly adapted to this lifestyle change, it's the Low IQ members of society who don't have the same privileges (although to be fair, there are still jobs that can't be made remote. Like construction or farming).

So I share the same goals you do with creating a society that is more happy and healthy and doesn't have to feed into our urges. But once again, the obstacle of genetics prevents us from executing these ideals on a wide scale. If everyone was born with genius intellect, then more people can flee the cities and start their own homestead or look after a community, while still benefiting from the Capitalist system that rewards success.

Everyday examples of [brazen] anti-white hatred? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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It's still there. It's the review published on Oct. 23, 2021.

As for the account thing, just sign in with google if you have one.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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But that's not a survival strategy.

In fact, if all you do is consume, where do you get the money to buy luxuries? You could beg or live on welfare, but those activities pale in comparison to those who work white collar jobs or become successful entrepreneurs.

I don't disagree that the masses do get sucked into this type of system, but they also have a responsibility to free themselves from it. For example, when people run out of money, do they look for a job or join a life of crime? By doing the latter, they stay in poverty or get locked in jail.

After our victory... by DisastrousDepth14 in debatealtright

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National Socialism is the only answer.

It's the only government that respects and understands biology. It's also the only government that actually stood up to Communism. The USA, France & UK let Stalin rape Europe despite both nations being majority White back then.

What a Minority White America Will Look Like. by The-Awful-Truth in debatealtright

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Have you ever seen a Chinese or Indian security guard before? LOL, they employ a whole bunch of them in my city and they're useless.

They're 4 Foot tall midgets who have no muscle and they just talk on their cellphones or walky talkies all day. But they can't stop much taller criminals who can easily overpower or chuck them aside.

It's even worse when the diversity hire is female. Only white male officers can offer real security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4hYmGMqs0

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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IMO, I still wouldn't be satisfied.

I mentioned China in my last sentence as an example of a country that could solve this problem permanently. They will most likely be the first country to engineer genetically superior humans, and the impact will be massive.

But therein lies a second problem. If China reaches master race status before the West, then our way of life will no doubt be controlled by them. Similar to when Europeans first met the Native Indians, their guns wiped the floor with their primitive spears.

That's just how important IQ science is. Even if I choose to go hide in a walled community, there's going to be another group out there who will still find us.

What a Minority White America Will Look Like. by The-Awful-Truth in debatealtright

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It's because they've been taught that Blacks are victims of slavery, and it's only racism is what holds them back as opposed to genetics.

I even made a thread about Martin Luther King Jr the other day, and it shows how the media has brainwashed people to believe racial equality is possible. Desegregation was a complete failure, and Blacks have shown they have no willingness to assimiliate or be part of American culture.

What a Minority White America Will Look Like. by The-Awful-Truth in debatealtright

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There's one silver lining that will come out from this. All those million dollar mansions in California are going to end up abandoned or looted, since there will be no more White people around to work security or offer to defend them.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Companies like Walmart or Amazon absolutely prey on the weak and stupid to keep their empires alive, but the Men responsible for creating them were absolutely not "mindless goys".

Steve Jobs, Sam Walton, Henry Ford, Elon Musk are not idiots. These guys are the higher level thinkers with individual opinions that are worth trillions.

Want to prove this wrong? Then go ahead and invent a more valuable product or service than all these Men did. I'll be waiting.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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You remind me of this meme:

https://files.catbox.moe/h3talq.jpg

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Can you even close Pandora's box at this point? If I was white I'd either dip to Switzerland or buy a huge plot of land and live with 10-15 like minded families there. Idk if that's enough to have a viable population though. Bring in cash through remote work and investments plus selling eggs, milk, fruit, honey, etc. Would need to remain extremely low key and say nothing of ideology or intent to avoid getting Waco'd.

There are two options:

  1. A Nationalist government gets elected to shut down the borders indefinitely

  2. America secedes or breaks into smaller nations, who have their own citizenship and border control laws.

I see #2 being more likely but I wouldn't rule out #1 if enough Whites revolt against the system.

True for Hispanics, for my own race we out earn the Jews in America so idk about that (though of course they far outclass us in wealth).

This is all done at the expense of Native White people. Especially with affirmative action and diversity quotas that punish Whites for opting to compete. It's bad news for both players involved since it creates resentment (i.e why should a homeless white guy be happy an Indian is making more money than him? Especially when none of that wealth is being channeled back to him).

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I would disown those people quickly. I personally want nothing to do with Israel and all its Oil baron neighbors.

If those White people go there, they are taking a huge risk by living in a majority Islamic country, that is quite hostile to Christians or Atheists.

Permanent emigration to the US seems to be on the decline though and I don't think the West is as aspirational as it used to be for emigrants.

There's still too much people moving there. Especially the illegal immigrants who flood through the border or let their work visas expire.

It's the same deal for high IQ immigrants to the US. People are paying them to come,

It's all a ruse. They only pay them because they get to exploit them as slave labor.

That money should be used for raising wages only, not depressing them.

Zemmour has successfuly sabotaged Marine Le Pen by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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He seems to be able to play both sides and use controversial issues to his advantage. For example, he rightfully blamed America for infiltrating French culture and trying to spark a race war.

https://www.newsweek.com/macron-france-reject-american-woke-culture-thats-racializing-their-country-1634706

Mind you, I'm not French so I'll admit to not knowing 100% what goes on internally, but his image appears to be one of refusing to back down or capitulate to opponents.

He's also taken flak for defending his nation's cartoon against Islam, which resulted in a lot of backlash in the middle east.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/28/anger-towards-emmanuel-macron-grows-in-muslim-world

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Well then maybe you should do something about all the kikes cutting us huge checks on your end. Whites emigrate for money and opportunity, it's the same here. You can't blame anyone for taking advantage of it really. I wouldn't blame anyone for trying to stop it either. It goes both ways doesn't it?

Do you mean Whites moving to other White countries? There's nothing wrong with that.

If Whites are moving to Brown or Black countries than I would give them the same advice. Don't run away from your own people, take charge of them instead.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I completely agree.

I really wish I was born with a much higher IQ so I could have jumped on the latest trends and have an influence.

The biggest boat I missed was passing on Social Media. A man like PewdiePie commands his own army of 110 million followers while working from the comfort of his own bedroom.

Has anyone here tried out the military? by ifuckredditsnitches_ in debatealtright

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You'll be forced to walk in women's heels,

This is a real example by the way.

https://twitter.com/erinotoole/status/1152610204657360897?lang=en

The above is a former Air Force Officer and the current Leader of Canada's "Conservative" Party.

So Casparvoneverec is correct. If you don't snap, you never will.

Zemmour has successfuly sabotaged Marine Le Pen by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Correct me if wrong, but I don't think a far-right Woman was ever going to make it in European politics.

Macron looks like a total strongman in comparison, especially if the two ever had to do a debate but only one of them is willing to be assertive.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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You're not alone. There are many people who wanted to make sense of race before taking on absolute ethno-nationalist views.

I would recommend checking out American Renaissance. Jared Taylor is a 70 year old man who has a life long of experience talking about every faucet about race, in a very professional and moderate manner. He is also never afraid to debate these views in public, and does TV interviews when requested.

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/amrenaissance/

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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That's not how that worked at all, it was a very complex series of events and a huge part of it is that the Brits had an advantage thanks to the near unlimited financing they secured through the Jews. Still took multiple drawn out conflicts to annex what they had. Even when they declared the Raj after 1857 they didn't directly rule that much land.

I forgot to mention there where other European powers who manage to control India. France, Portugal & I believe the Dutch as well.

If those guys were willing to fight complex wars over it (and they obviously won in the end), then I have no sympathy for Indians who refuse to do the same.

The ones who leave are mainly doing so to escape affirmative action and potential forced intermarriage for their children, along with the danger of more wealth redistribution. The trouble with retaking it is that a huge portion of the nobility "drank the koolaid" so to speak with respect to the secularist egalitarian ideals of the Independence movement. Currently India has had a resurgence away from those ideals but the ones in charge are still egalitarians in a different change of clothes. Recently several kids shitposting about caste and muslims got arrested, so it seems that conflict is heating up. It'll be interesting to see where that is by 2050.

That's not my problem. There are people who want to flee Afghanistan because they hate the Taliban. Even though they had 20 years and billions in foreign aid to actually do something about them.

Still doesn't mean I want to take these people in, or they have exclusive access to our countries. Either find somewhere else or go back and fight for your homeland.

Too many internal barriers, civil war is needed.

Then hopefully they know what's coming next if they care about their future.

You'd need to completely liquidate every single institution in the post 1947 India before that happens lol, and millions will need to die. Can't wait. Would return to fight if a civil war broke out.

See above.

History is filled with numerous examples of wars being fought to regain control of something. The best advice I'm giving Indians right now is they need to stop being scared and ignore the status quo. Trust me, we would all be better off in the long run vs watching the frog boil slowly.

Has anyone here tried out the military? by ifuckredditsnitches_ in debatealtright

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It's all fun and games until the top General is in support of Critical Race Theory.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/23/1009592838/top-general-defends-studying-critical-race-theory-in-the-military

And historically speaking, the U.S Army has always been a tool for suppressing White people. Look at how segregation was ended at gun point. Would you be comfortable doing this?

https://files.catbox.moe/g6x8du.jpg

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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The key to understanding India is realizing that it's a country made by its aristocracy and weighed down by its peasantry. Modern India is a regime specifically designed to prevent the advancement of the aristocratic lines while taking their wealth.

If a group of complete outsiders [Brits] could enter the country and declare themselves as rulers, then I'm at a loss why the actual Indian upper class refuse to do the same in their own country. Maybe instead of leaving the country mass, wealthy Indians could actually stay and attempt to retake the government.

Who cares about popularity lmao

Popular might be the wrong word. But posing as a geographical threat or competitor is not.

That they mogged Pakistan continuously after the 60s despite the Pakis having American equipment and managed to hold back China after the 60s despite inferior equipment there as well, not to mention the political hamstringing of the army is proof that the spirit of India's nobility has remained strong. The genetic and spiritual component of the Indian army is its only advantage.

Good on India. Now how about they prove their superiority by having a gdp per capita that's higher than $2,000?

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Yeah, but as I pointed out with my above chart, practically no one with 85 IQ is associated with abstract thinking.

They are retards to me because they don't even begin to register the things I'm saying. Whereas I still understand someone who is 124 IQ because two scientists or two engineers can graduate from the same source or underwent the same training.

It's like comparing the gulf between a 2 year old, an 18 year old and a 60 year old. An 18 year old would be better off understanding the boomer, vs the baby who can't even listen to a teenager.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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and it doesn't have a bearing on success in the modern world (which boils down to showing up and showing deference to superiors). All it means is that you figure shit out faster.

Which is still pretty damn important, since the modern world relies entirely on speed.

Whether it's sports, music, art, trades, software development etc, in every career the person who can think the fastest is always at an advantage.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Actually, that's not true.

https://files.catbox.moe/fhn1be.jpg

You can find 100 IQ people in the highest roles of society, whereas 85 IQ never associate with geniuses or reach their ranks.

Edit: And since I'm 9 points above average, I'm even closer to the people deemed extra smart.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I don't think the comparison works.

There's a lot more overlap with an average IQ person and geniuses, than there are with retards and average IQ.

An 85 IQ would be hard pressed to live a normal life, when they most likely failed school, don't quite understand technology, and are much more prone to joining organized crime or street gangs.

Someone who is 100 IQ is not dumb, but just boring. They're very good at their jobs, probably own a home and understands the importance of civilization. Where they struggle is with entering leadership roles that can influence and directly shape society.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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The Liberal Whites still live in their own gated communities and never stay past midnight in a black neighborhood.

https://files.catbox.moe/3r59eh.jpeg

As soon as their neighborhood gets enriched, they sell their homes and move to the next White liberal community, repeating the trend.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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If you want a real answer, being a midwit has allowed me to experience a greater range of jobs, while having a unique advantage of being self aware of my position.

You'll rarely see a Doctor or President, shovel their own snow or take out garbage. They'll just pay some laborer or maid to do it for them.

But I've been open to working in factories or retail before, and it becomes immediately apparent, you have to babysit a lot of people who failed school and need a lot of handholding just to do basic stuff.

I have also done jobs where my co-workers could not solve a simple question like 1+1 = 2. They were seriously that DUMB. It just feels so awful that we let these people exist when their goals in life are extremely limited. It's either that, or a lot of them turn to crime and further drag down society.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Can you give me an example of what these Indians goods are?

It's like saying Mali was a world power because Mansa Musa had a lot of gold. It's technically correct, but without the Africans ever investing their wealth in cutting edge technology, they were going to be eclipsed by a more advanced civilization sooner or later. Which did happen. France came in and made them their colony.

If the Brits left it in the hands of the old monarchies as previously planned it would've been minimum Arab tier if not rivalling Asian powers.

What did the monarchies have to do with making India a more competitive nation? A country like Russia proves that even when Whites are ruled by destructive and seemingly backwards governments, it still hasn't stopped them from dominating at the sciences or military technology.

India today is obviously in a much better position than 1930s Russia was, yet who still has the better status symbol? People feared that a man like Stalin could somehow enslave all of Europe, meanwhile, nobody really cares what goes on in India, even when they have their little spats with Pakistan and China.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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109

Which is still above average, but even I still hate the fact I was born below the benchmark that cuts off before genius.

As I explained in an earlier post to send_nasty_stuff, we live in a world that is constantly aiming to be more successful than others, and the moment you fall behind, the entire world takes advantage of you.

A good example right now, factory jobs are becoming obsolete. Most people are realizing the crappy pay and standing behind a conveyer belt all day has no benefits. CEO's will respond by getting robots to do the job for even cheaper than this. Since the low IQ depend on jobs that have no skill, they face a future that is ready to move on without them.

Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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In a perfect world, having low IQ members of the same race would not matter, and that may have been true thousands of year prior. HOWEVER, the world has changed a lot since the days of hunting with spears, to the point that intelligence is the only way to survive in a capitalist and technological society.

I believe this is what Adolf Hitler was hinting at had the Axis powers won WW2. We should have applied the same selective breeding techniques used to rear healthier and stronger farm animals with that of humans.

It may sound harsh but imagine if you gave birth to a son who was clinically retarded? Sure, you would still love him as a natural reaction, but imagine having to explain to him he could never become an Astronaut, or Physicist or even an Entrepreneur because he lost the genetic lottery? Now repeat this for the millions of other people being born everyday, and we're intentionally creating an oversupply of useless people who will grow up to take away from the system, as opposed to adding to it?

China is ahead of the curve on this. Even in a country that already has a billion people, Jared Taylor pointed out that the Chinese will be the first to practice Eugenics, and successfully raise a new generation who will all be master race tier. From being immune to diseases, to being 7 feet tall, to having an intelligence rivaling supercomputers, reality will hit most people and realize we made a mistake with not carefully choosing our mates much sooner....

Anyone know the legal history of holocaust denial laws in England? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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When you look at the map, it seems to be in countries that Germany ever occupied during WW2 (with exceptions for Portugal & Israel).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Holocaust_Denial_Laws.svg

Martin Luther King Jr Day is proof Whites need to start voicing opposition. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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The standard is observing other European immigrants who moved to the U.S and how they quickly integrated.

We don't see a "German Lives Matter" attacking small businesses or claiming the police are systematically racist against them. Same can be said about Swedish immigrants, Irish, Polish, Italian etc.

But with Black Americans, they still see themselves as a separate identity and demand special preferences because of it.

Edit: By the way, here's a clear cut example that Blacks don't want assimilation. All White people are banned from joining their political clubs, even those who might have connections to their community.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus#Non-black_membership

All past and present members of the caucus have been African-American. In 2006, while running for Congress in a Tennessee district which is 60% black, Steve Cohen, who is Jewish, pledged to apply for membership in order to represent his constituents. However, after his election, his application was refused.[36] Although the bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, former and current members of the caucus agreed that the group should remain "exclusively black". In response to the decision, Cohen referred to his campaign promise as "a social faux pas" because "It's their caucus and they do things their way. You don't force your way in. You need to be invited."[36] Representative Lacy Clay, a Democrat from Missouri and the son of Representative Bill Clay, a co-founder of the caucus, said: "Mr. Cohen asked for admission, and he got his answer. He is white and the caucus is black. It is time to move on. We have racial policies to pursue and we are pursuing them, as Mr. Cohen has learned. It is an unwritten rule. It is understood." Clay also issued the following statement: Quite simply, Representative Cohen will have to accept what the rest of the country will have to accept—there has been an unofficial Congressional White Caucus for over 200 years, and now it is our turn to say who can join 'the club.' He does not, and cannot, meet the membership criteria unless he can change his skin color. Primarily, we are concerned with the needs and concerns of the black population, and we will not allow white America to infringe on those objectives.[37]

Martin Luther King Jr Day is proof Whites need to start voicing opposition. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Malcolm X also invited George Lincoln Rockwell and other Nazis to his talks.

https://files.catbox.moe/g36m8r.jpg

The 1960s was a weird time. America had a chance to save itself, but it went down the path of open borders and the civil rights act instead.

Martin Luther King Jr Day is proof Whites need to start voicing opposition. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Despite Blacks arriving in the U.S around the same time as Whites did, they have never assimilated into U.S culture.

They have higher rates of crime, higher dropout rates from school, they only vote for one political party.

It's a classic example of how everything MLK Jr preached, was a complete lie.

Desegregation has only caused more misery and suffering, on top of the fact that Blacks literally did nothing with all the welfare and aid that was given to them.

It's also worth pointing out that Blacks have gotten far more aggressive with their anti-white hate.

In the last two years, we've seen multiple attacks on famous statues like George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. They're sending a message they literally want to destroy the country, and white tax payer's money is helping them go along with it.

Martin Luther King Jr Day is proof Whites need to start voicing opposition. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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The problem is America still imports millions of new Blacks from Africa every year.

So you'll never "bleach" them out like Brazil did. It would be more like South Africa where the Whites simply get overun by them.

Side effect risks from getting an mRNA vaccine vs. catching COVID-19 by disidentHR in debatealtright

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Yes they have. A better strategy was proposed many times over the course of this plandemic. First, end the lockdowns and enable herd immunity to take over. Second, distribute ivermectin and HCQ to the hospitals.

2020 saw the highest deaths from Covid. 2021 was similar, as the vaccines had supply issues preventing populations from having 2 doses until around the summer.

None of the pre-vaccine strategies worked and in fact, they only prolonged the pandemic longer. 2 years and millions dead is more than enough time to listen to the conspiracy theorists. 2022 is the start of more Quebec or French like reactions which means, raising the financial penalty for those who weigh down our health system.

You are also fine with having Trudeaus cock shoved deep inside your asshole. That doesn't mean the rest of us are fine with it.

Trudeau is a weirdo, but the antivax are even more bizzare and selfish. An asteroid could be hurdling towards Earth and the antivax will say "lol that's just Jewish CGI, take horse paste or drink piss and the flying rock will go away".

If you don't want to be part of it, that's nice. Too bad the majority are not.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/01/12/canada-poll-unvaccinated-fines/

By the way, I can't unsee the antivax as being literal cartoon characters. This is the only time pop culture has been spot on with the rampant lunacy we have to put up with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg6n9ph20Zs

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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And who did Hitler fight ? Brown people ?

Close.

Germany was at war with Jews & Jewish Communists. Electing Hitler saved the German people from becoming a puppet state of Soviet Russia.

Not sure if he is a good example either.

What other man in history was able to reverse a nation's fortune overnight? Germany went from poverty, to hosting the world olympics and building the first highways. That was not an accident. But it requires an extrodinary leader who understood just how important race really is and as a result, the entire world hated Germany for it.

I feel I can see what the future of the west and it looks bleak to me. Part of the problem is the assumption of inherent superiority that people seem to have.

If you really feel this way, then it begs the question of how does more Indian immigration to the West is suppose to help this? Diversity and multiculturalism are having the opposite effect then you intend. Forcing races together = superiority will break out amongst one of them.

I’ll have to leave the discussion here. I tried to make my points but guess have not succeeded. I wish the west well despite the social fractures it now has developed.

Ok then.

Genuine question. Who are the most beautiful non-white women? by Poclurker in debatealtright

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It could be a status symbol.

In Brazil, the Japanese population are exclusively middle class and live only in rich neighborhoods. Getting a Japanese girlfriend would show you have good connections.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I’m not saying everything was peaceful before or that colonizers are the source of everything evil. But certain social identities of hierarchy were imposed by colonizers. This made their rule a common ally to warring factions. And to that extent, the colonizer is responsible.

The Africans made it a choice to practice those hierarchies now that the colonizers are gone. If they can't figure that out, then it means they're a lost cause.

In history, Britain is one country that understood the concept of “divide to rule”. I think it’s because if it’s geography and it’s relation to Europe. A united Europe would destroy Britain in no time but as long as there are European divisions, British success is guaranteed.

Britain by itself is a still a powerful country. It's not like they haven't fought against a united Europe before (i.e Napoleon or even Hitler).

Regardless, the comparison only proves the enormous differences that exist between the Western world and the non-white one. British people never blamed their failings on what Europe looked like. They played geopolitics well and looked after their own country.

Its easy to say stuff like “if people don’t like x they can overthrow them”. It’s not that easy in practice. Like I can also say things like “if you don’t democrats and republicans, just overthrow them” but it’s far more difficult to even do something much smaller.

The reason Democrats & Republicans have not been immediately ousted is because life in America is still somewhat good. It's not like half the country is starving or dropping dead in the streets. But make a population angry enough and they will demand a new government.

Look at Germany back in the 1920s and 1930s. That's a real example of Europeans suffering from hyperinflation or being unable to buy bread. Yet how did the Germans react? They voted in Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party to fix this, and they did.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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That’s what the process of colonization did. You seem to think that it’s just taxes that were imposed. No it is fault lines that are created, that are deeepend by a colonizer that fracture a society beyond reconciliation. Take a look at Rwanda. The Hutu and Tutsi have a long history of cohabilitation. Neither killed one another en mass. A colonizer rules for 100 years and voila we have genocide. Japanese society was never subject to that type of infighting.

Before the first White Man stepped into Africa, Africans had practiced slavery and were use to capturing enemy prisoners, and cannibalize them.

I really doubt that everything that occurred on that continent was kumbaya, peace and love. And why? I don't remember Africa creating the United Nations? Or being involved in diplomacy. Or even having the ability to write treaties. These inventions, came from the West, which require a high iq population to generate.

The history of Japan was also full of civil wars. You can read about the Meiji Restoration and the fact there were also foreign nations who got involved and backed rival sides. But even after such meddling, with the next 20 or so years, the Japanese still managed to industrialize quickly, and even beat a very notorious Western power in war (i.e the Russian Empire).

Japanese society was never subject to that type of infighting. Hence society as a whole could come together to address problems it’s leader saw fit. If instead of forcing the Emoperror to being God, if Americans had created their own emperor equivalent for Japan then maybe you would see the harm. This is what American seems to have done in Iraq after removing Saddam (intentionally or accidentally)

If the people really hate being ruled by puppets, they can overthrow them. That was literally how America was founded. "No taxation without representation" was a reference to no Americans being in British parliament, yet they still paid taxes to an overseas country. The U.S went to war, they won, and Britain recognized their existence.

If the Brown nations refuse to do the same or they fail at it, the fault once again lies within themselves. Every problem they brought up, White nations endured the same thing but still found a way to survive.

Spain & Portugal were once invaded and occupied by a Muslim Empire for hundreds of years. They hated this "oppression" and so one day, the Iberians overthrew the Muslims. With Spain & Portugal now liberated, they immediately began exploring the world, and setting up trading posts on different continents. This made them rich, and the money was reinvested to build more powerful armies and navies which helped them conquer every new territory they came across.

Side effect risks from getting an mRNA vaccine vs. catching COVID-19 by disidentHR in debatealtright

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Well, people can say vaccines will turn you into a reptile or anything else superstitious. The bottom line is no one has proposed a better solution, so I'm fine with keeping the mandates that go towards aiding our Hospitals and healthcare workers.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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If Japan had a century of colonization destroying its ancient institutions in the name of Christianity and western civilization, then you might not see it as a remotely decent option.

They had that in the form of WW2. When America stepped into battle, every city was firebombed or blown up with nuclear weapons. The Americans then occupied them and told them to stop worshipping their Emperor as a god.

Yet despite this, Japan is both an economic giant, and a very safe place to live to this day.

The standards for civilization are so high, it makes no sense to complain. If every brown country could admit they made mistakes or failed, they would not all be in last place. But the issue is they would rather blame White people forever.

But if White people are to disappear in the future, then there wont be anyone left to save the third world.

Donald Trump Is Talking About White People Now by DisastrousDepth14 in debatealtright

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"My patriotic Americans. I just approved the largest, and I mean, LARGEST, reparations plan for African Americans in U.S history. It's so big folks, it will make your head spin. Democrats said it couldn't be done, but what do they know? There's going to be so much reparations, Blacks are going to beg us, to give them more!"

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I agree anti white polices are bad. But in institutions, these policies hurt Asians more. If anything whites are underrepresented in tech (industry i am familiar with) at the cost of Asians.

We still have an example of multiculturalism failing the native people. Asians could volunteer to step down and hand over their careers to competing White citizens. But they haven't done that, so the problem continues to get worse.

I’m not saying IQ is not a predictor nor that a genetic component exists. I’m suggesting that IQ changes occurred to increase IQ in the last many generations because intelligent people (with both genes and habits that developed intelligence) created same or more babies that lower IQ. This can’t be said of the last 30-40years. I also don’t know what eviromenral variables were examined for long term tests. I suspect a lot more exists than was tested.

Racial differences in IQ goes back hundreds of years, and environment has always been taken into consideration. The facts still remain. No one has been able to reproduce a study that says all races have the exact same intelligence. And there's a good reason why.

It contradicts human evolution. Every race evolved different skull shapes & cranial capacity. In Whites & certain East Asians, they are born with the biggest brains on average. But in other groups, they're much more smaller.

This is not a battle that can be won by throwing more money at it. It's like paying a Man to look and act 100% like a Woman. It's impossible, the sex differences were ingrained at birth.

The same is true with intelligence. We could give brown people nutritious food and a safe home, but that does not guarantee they will be smarter than Einstein or Isaac Newton. Meanwhile, you can impoverish white people and bomb their countries via war, yet we still see tons of white geniuses being born anyway. This was literally the story of the Soviet Union. How could a nation that could barely feed itself, launch rockets into Space before India or Africa? It's genes...

When you look at world history, try to see it from 2-3 different lenses. It might help make more sense and might address the superiority complex you seem to have developed. If it had not been for a few key battles, maybe you would have been saying something like I can’t come across evidence that “non-Islam kingdoms could manage the world” which to me is also narrow statement. Like maybe view Christianity from the perspective of Lithuania (last country to christianize) Maybe the problem is that you think whites should be managing the world or that it was a good thing that they did.

History is definitely full of a lot of "what ifs" but truth be told, when there's an understanding of race realism, the patterns always seem to re-arrange themselves into very predictable puzzle pieces.

For example, I listed South Africa in my OP as proof that only White people could transform a desert into a 1st world paradise. When the White people were forced to end Apartheid and hand over their nation to the non-whites, it collapsed overnight. Everything about the crime, school dropout rates and failing economy could be seen miles away, from other African countries that are just as bad or worse.

Maybe the problem is that you think whites should be managing the world or that it was a good thing that they did. That opinion is a consequence of the evangelical tendencies most western cultures have and the savior complex that the left exhibits.

In a perfect world, every nation would have giant walls that stop mass movement of people without passing certain rules.

But since we don't, then yeah, I would a rather a benevolent white nation have the most power and influence in the world.

Since all the other non-white options are shown to be the worse. I would never want to live in Brazil, South Africa, India, China, Iraq, Jamaica etc. The only non-white country that is remotely decent is Japan, but I don't want Japanese people to lose their country.

Side effect risks from getting an mRNA vaccine vs. catching COVID-19 by disidentHR in debatealtright

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No one has natural immunity to Covid. That's why millions of people have already died to the virus.

But that's not the worst part. Being unvaccinated helps normalize the disease, since the virus has more time to survive (and thus mutate) in its host before jumping to the next person.

It's simply a god awful strategy that has been tried for 2 years but is now completely eroding our healthcare system. And since money is not unlimited, non-vax people will have a choice of paying more money for their selfishness, or volunteer to be treated last at clinics.

Side effect risks from getting an mRNA vaccine vs. catching COVID-19 by disidentHR in debatealtright

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I honestly don't understand the controversy.

At least where I live, the vaccines are only administered by licensed doctors or nurses. On top of having to monitor patients actively both during and after the procedure. It's honestly a miracle of science that we follow such tough rules and regulation, instead of going down the libertarian path of letting everyone and their pet dog give you a medical diagnosis.

Sorry if those facts upset you. If you want to help, then once again, I see nothing wrong with moving antivax to the back of the hospital line and giving much more serious patients a chance at life instead.

Donald Trump Is Talking About White People Now by DisastrousDepth14 in debatealtright

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Look at who Trump has standing behind him:

https://i.imgur.com/dtxuI95.png

It's "OH MY GOD BASED BLACKS. WE GOT THE BEST BLACKS DON'T WE FOLKS! REMEMBER, DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!"

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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IQ is the greatest predictor of success in life. Almost no one becomes an Astronaut or CEO while dribbling saliva from their mouth. As a result, the smarter an entire population is on average, the more competent and intelligent leaders can come to power.

The relationship between IQ & Environment have been studied for decades, yet genetic differences have still shown to be bigger factors.

This is proven when you look at College scores. The poorest Whites still outperform the Richest Blacks in school.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/1995-SAT-vs-Income-Education.png

In retrospect, no one has been able to create a diverse society where everyone has the same IQ or social status. In America alone, trillions have been pumped into welfare and other social programs meant to uplift poor blacks or hispanics. The results have been a total failure.

We can never fix these gaps without Eugenics.

And we’re there people before Vikings in America ? Where do you think they came from ? Theory is that the ASEAN people also had ships that allowed them to find South America.

Yes, but those people never caught up to Western Europeans. Hence why Mexico was conquered by the Spanish, and South America was easily handed over to the Portuguese.

The strength of the dollar and significant infra investment by universities and government is a significant reason why Americas middle could create companies that create produce innovators. If you look at leadership of most of these companies, you might see a disproportionate representation of one non white peoples.

Those people came later, and they did not invent those companies. Microsoft existed before Satya Nadella. And same with Pepsi.

It's not really a great point, especially since America is in the middle of a cultural battle, that punishes White people for wishing to be the majority of a government or company. Jared Taylor put out a highly informative video showing just how extreme these anti-white policies really are. Such as companies having their funding removed if too many board directors are White? How is that fair?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HDEpQscdYGDE/

Before you believe the ideas similar to manifest destiny, Monroe doctrine or inherent whites being better, you might want to see history more and examine the biases of people who told you of that too

I tie a lot of my arguments to world history, and while I'll admit I would love to research more non-white countries in depth, I haven't actually come across conflicting evidence that says dark colored nation could manage the world, in the same way many successful white empires have had.

Side effect risks from getting an mRNA vaccine vs. catching COVID-19 by disidentHR in debatealtright

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Side effects should never be a talking point. Every medicine you can buy off the pharmacy shelf comes with warnings and risks.

The biggest issue is the unvaccinated are destroying healthcare. We don't have unlimited amounts of money to look after these people, while life-saving surgeries keep getting cancelled or delayed because of them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/sarnia-bluewater-health-hospital-covid-patients-1.6315681

In recent weeks, the hospital's 14-bed ICU has been overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients, the vast majority of whom hadn't received their shots. The Lambton Public Health Unit, which serves Sarnia and its surrounding region in southwestern Ontario, has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the province, with 77 per cent of the eligible population fully vaccinated. The Ontario average is 82 per cent.

Either put the antivax at the back of hospital waiting line, or start taxing them extra for using public resources.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I’ll leave my points of discussion about immigration you made. I understand race realism. I see it as a something like religious realism, which I believe is important. Just as not all religions are equally good or bad, not all peoples are either.

Contrary to what the media says, many race realists are still comfortable interacting with people who are different from them.

I would even argue that very few of them are actually "hateful". What they want, and what everyone should want, is for racial separation.

And I'm aware of the arguments that say "but our countries are poor, we just want a better life". What you're really looking for is Eugenics. If India or Africa seriously put forth a national policy that only high IQ members of society could reproduce, all the issues of "poverty" would disappear over night.

If Constantinople had not fallen, I doubt either Columbus or Vasco Da gama would undertake the voyages they did. Both were trying to 2 things (1) find Allies for the church and (2) fund gold that Marco Polo had written about 2 centuries ago.

The Vikings had already sailed to America before Columbus did. The Roman Empire was also in the process of exploring Africa or moving into Asia as well.

You are seeing history in a linear way. Many older libraries snd scientific accomplishments theories can be found in India, egypt, native America ….even the pre Christian Europe that were later destroyed. That one is now seen as a success, does not imply they were always successful or that they will be.

True, but then it's a pattern of watching how these nations continue to build themselves up again. The Soviets inflicted a huge amount of damage on Eastern Europe, yet after the fall of communism, Poland or Lithuania have rapidly caught up with their Western neighbors.

Richer countries often throw away the advantage they have while poorer countries, partially forced by the situation create a lot more ingenious things.

Examine Europe and other Western Countries today, that is clearly not true. Microsoft, Tesla, Amazon, Apple, Disney etc are leaders of innovation, yet which countries do we find them in?

I’m glad that India did not try to be global world leader. It had the sense of improving society back home when it was the chief world power. Universalist, globe conquests may make great inspiring histories but they often come at a cost of a lot of internal rot.

There will always be a country who wants to be #1 in history. Simply because having access to more resources, money and even land itself is valuable for human development.

Core tenets of the alt right ranked. by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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I assume millions of other people have already mixed vaccines, so I'm not actually afraid or doubt its effectiveness.

and you don't know what supposed new variant will even be around in march.

This is why I continue to advocate for closing down the airports and quarantining the infected. I want to stop future variants before they could spread again.

What is more revealing is when someone asked you why you haven't gotten it and you said it's not required by law.

I'm a lazy person, and our healthcare system right now is still prioritizing 1st & 2nd doses for the people who never got them. If we never had these supply issues, then yea, I would have asked for a 3rd Pfizer booster, just like how I would get a new flu shot.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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The Indian independence struggle is not alike most others. One might say that British decided to leave India without much political pressure at the time among Indian political parties to do so. Now if you examine the early Indian leadership, and its attitude towards the British, you will see both are entirely sympathetic to britishers. It is something that has changed recently.

Canada is a former British colony that has always been sympathetic to Britain. America was the complete opposite, and kicked them out. Yet hundreds of years later, why does both Canada & America seem to independently run fine?

It has very little to do with where their loyalties are. It will always come down to competent leaders who know what they are doing.

I don’t deny the points you make about Indians being politically left in the US. All I’m saying is that Indian immigrants compete better and treat the host society better. And I’ll tell you why as well. Fewer companies recruit immigrants (atleast that was the case in 2010). So unless you have a strong profile for these companies, you likely don’t get a job anywhere in the US. So at college campuses, immigrants from abroad compete at a higher level than their counterparts here. Yes, it sucks for nationals. And I wish too that we had a better quality of government and economy back home. But we don’t.

So how do you think Indians would have reacted to the very first U.S law? The one that said citizenship was originally exclusive to Whites only?

https://immigrationhistory.org/item/1790-nationality-act/

Or the numerous 20th century legislature that also called for reducing Asian immigration in favor of more Europeans?

As long as multiculturalism exists, the very fabric of what makes a country unique, begins to disappear. We can't pretend to call America the same country, if Whites become 40% of the population or less. It will inevitably look like every other third world nation that has a brown majority.

I’m not supporting any liberal talking point or saying anyone needs us or that Americans wont be as good, I’m saying that the conditions create better candidates among immigrants in college campuses. Don’t believe me? Try going to a college campus and say you have a job and see what are the proportions of quality resumes you get. I’m glad and grateful that America allows people like me here and yes because of people like me from urban India, rural America does not get the opportunity it deserves which I’m sympathetic too. But going back in early career means literally a lot more effort for little gain.

From a moral standpoint, Indians living with other Indians keep their identity. Just like how Whites living with other Whites are seen as family.

But what happens when you try and mix families? It leads to competition, lack of social trust, or worse, just conflict.

That will always be the defining feature of race realism. We can never expect different races to be happy with each other when they live in the same society. Biology tells us that a White person will see an Indian person and know right away he's different. This is also confirmed when we look at patterns for where each group lives. Indians will live in Indian enclaves, and Whites will always want to live next to white neighbors.

Overall my point is that colonization was bad and it has Rena ants in todays society which most of society is unaware of. My apologies for digressing from the topic of civilizations. If you look up the Ming dynasty, the Han and others, they had a better fleet than Columbus did but they for some reason did not explore even New Zealand let alone the New world. Similar with India, the port of Surat had much better ships and knowledge of routes compared to Vasco Da gama but they did not sent it out to Europe. After 1700s Europes ability to industrialize put it into altogether different orbit. Before that, Europe does not seem to be as great a place to be. Pretty much every century before the 1700s either India or China had the bill of economic power in the world.

If China & India had more money Europe, but they still didn't use it explore the world or put themselves ahead technologically speaking, then it confirms my theory that they were not fit to be one day seen as global leaders.

It's like for example, if you gave a random homeless person $1 million dollars, he's now richer than a lot of people. But, if the homeless guy only uses his wealth to buy alcohol and drugs with it, then he's no better off than when he was living on the streets.

Now apply this logic for world history. If Europeans were already building libraries, discovering scientific theories or inventing the capitalist system when they were dirt poor, imagine what they could have done when they became super rich, centuries later? It means the rest of the world is now very far behind them.

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Actually no, there are two problems with your post:

  1. Due to supply issues, the boosters being offered in my country are Moderna. Since I've taken Pfizer and it's considered the most effective vaccine, I can only get a 3rd shot when it's actually available.

  2. None of the [current] vaccines were made with omicron in mind. For maximum effectiveness, I would prefer to wait for March and actually get the booster that will tackle it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/covid-vaccine-pfizer-ceo-says-omicron-vaccine-will-be-ready-in-march.html

In which case, no one should have an excuse to not get it. If the government updates the mandate to include this, I would support it all the way.

But regardless, the entire system needs rework. If international travel was banned, variants would be contained. No new variants = no new vaccines or booster requirements. Pandemic would be over.

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Why don't you tell us what you want to do with us bro?

Believe it or not, my policies (regarding Covid) are very moderate.

I still think the #1 issue was banning all international movement & closing down airports. Had that been done, pandemic would have been over 2 years ago.

Second option would have been to segregate society. All vaccinated people would have financial incentives and healthcare preferences over the non-vaxxed. It's actually very effective. Both Quebec & France had immediate success with issuing ultimatums, it lead to people getting their 1st dose in droves.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/thousands-sign-up-for-1st-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-as-quebec-threatens-to-tax-the-unvaxxed-1.5736806

And that's it. All the other stuff about camps or blocking food are not related to the pandemic. If someone wants to order Mcdonalds, by all means, they can do it. There's even an app that can deliver food to their homes, so they have no excuse to complain about mandates starving them. The option to order online or do curbside pickup was there since the start of the pandemic...

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I did mention 3 major immigrations out of India. First the gypsies, second the Caribbean indentured laborers and their the Indians to west in the last 50-100 years. If you consider the third, this group of immigrants is actually the most successful class of India. The reason they move to the west is because of the most aggressive affirmative action policies that are in mandated even in private colleges of India. Do you know who created the classifications for providing affirmative action ? The ex colonizer. Not trying to say India should not own up after many years of independence but the problem is we still have entirely colonial institutions, colonial definitions that describe our society.

That makes no sense at all. If Indians could oppose the British ruling over them, why would they switch heel and want to live under British rule again in their own island?

This is just another example of the third world being ran by incompetent management. They were given a chance to rebuild on their own, but they rejected it. And if Indians don't even like their own country to actually stay in it, why would anyone trust them to potentially run global politics?

Despite all this, if you ask any Indian (including many western elites in the country) if he/she want to live in India pre or post independence ? It would be post independence mostly because the economy has been better (albeit more socialist).

Then by all means, they should elect a government that calls for the return of all Indians to their homeland. And yes, this is actually a very easy task to achieve. African countries like Ghana throw in incentives for blacks to return, and Israel obviously makes it very easy for Jews to go live there. Although notice in both examples, especially with Africa, the non-whites still find life more comfortable in the West and are hard to please?

I agree that the Indians who come here turn left in the countries here. But if you remove immigration as an issue, you will find they are far right than an average white man. Indians support legal limited and merit based immigration. If democrats succeed in combining illegal and legal immigration then it results in Indians voting for them for the legal immigration but. If someone makes a disctinctiom between them, as did President Trump, you will see Indians tend to support them.

We have more than 20 years of election data. Only White Americans have ever voted for Republicans in mass or majority numbers.

If anything, diversity & multiculturalism has shown us the "myth" of all races coming together and working in unison. Politics is much more fractured when you have to spend huge amounts of money convincing minorities to join your aside, vs a homogenous population that look similar to one another.

One more thing is that Indians come here to universities and that’s where they are often indoctrinated into being leftists. Parents are waking up to it now. I’ll also add that increasing number of Indians tend to go back to India once they get older around late 45-50s. if they stay, it’s only for kids schooling and soon after kids complete schooling they move back. I graduated from a university here and a lot of my classmates alreadywent back. I understand that position might not be popular here but I dare say that Indian immigration is adding to the talent pool unlike most others.

All of this comes at the cost of the host country. Why should any American compete against foreigners for the same jobs, housing, school etc? America (& Europeans in general) have always thrived on their own for thousands of year. If non-whites want the same thing, then be like Japan and actually build those great things on your own. But moving to a White's country, using their services but then claiming "hey buddy, you need us" is very hypocritical. Either that, or admit that colonization was a good thing since the end result is the same (wishing to live next to Whites).

About the reason why Indian did not conquer the world before, I do not know of any Indian ruler that had an aggressive expansionist foreign policy. To a certain extent, I think that’s common to China too, which also had a strong naval base that could have potentially conquered some bastions or Europe. My opinion is that the fall of Constantinople and the urge to spread Christianity as a counter weight to Islam spread western civilization across the world. At the time of the age of exploration, India was ruled by Islamic invaders and they were probably more powerful than the ottomans or the European rulers. After their fall, a lot of smaller empires resulted but no one could catch up the industrial strength that Europe built up between 1700 to 1800s.

China has never successfully won a war against Europeans to my knowledge. More often than not, they were constantly humiliated and forced to sign away land (i.e Hong Kong). If that's the example you're comparing India with, then that is less compelling reason that their empires were actually comparable with Europe in the same time.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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"But but, it's all Whitey's fault!"

Mexico was always a shithole before Europeans even made contact with them. The Aztecs had a lot fun collecting prisoners and using them for heart ripping ceremonies.

In fact, when I see people cry about U.S intervention, I remind them that Japan & Germany were both bombed to oblivion but are still world class powers today. There are no excuses, Mexicans and other non-whites are just lazy.

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I don't even think he would take the first shot if he could redo it, I think he's just extremely cynical about being coerced by a faggot to get a vax.

Nope, the vaccines were always necessary. It dramatically stopped the virus from ripping through the population with deadly results.

The ones who refused to believe this have always been a drain on our healthcare system. It literally makes no sense why these people are given first class treatment:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/inside-an-icu-where-70-per-cent-of-covid-19-patients-are-unvaccinated-1.5738198

But 500,000 other surgeries were delayed or cancelled instead.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/with-more-than-500-000-fewer-surgeries-due-to-covid-19-delayed-surgeries-cost-some-their-lives-1.5700480

It should not surprise anyone why Quebec lashed out and became the first province to issue fines. The quack conspiracies are costing us money, so they might as well pay into this system instead.

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It's not being obtuse.

All vaccines are available by 12 months. I'll also update the post to say there are 10 shots covering 14 preventable diseases.

Baby can be used to refer to any child from birth to age 4 years old, thus encompassing newborns, infants, and toddlers.

https://www.verywellfamily.com/difference-between-baby-newborn-infant-toddler-293848

I have no further reason to debate this.

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This is just being obtuse.

I replied to a post that says should babies be vaccinated. I responded with a list confirming several infant vaccines already exist. Calling them optional is just a deflection.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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India is not worse of at all now that what it was under the British.

Millions of Indians have immigrated to Western countries over the past 50 years. How many British (or other White people) have moved to India within the same period after independence?

And based on voting patterns, I've also never seen Indians attempt to stop the mass migration of their own people into Western countries. In Canada & the U.S for example, Indian citizens disproportionately vote for Left or Hard-Left parties who support open borders.

There are much longer empires in India far more extensive and longer with more people under them than you might imagine. Take a look at Maurya, Chola, Vijaynagar, Maratha ….

I'll definitely take a look into those but before I do, I want to make a prediction. The comparisons being made are with civilizations who have simply shown to be the strongest or most technologically powerful throughout history. To India's credit, I'm aware it's an ancient civilization and has perhaps influenced several of its neighbors. But, without feats that's outright match the examples I listed in the OP, I'm willing to bet still comes in a distant 2nd or 3rd place for controlling the world.

For example, Ethiopia is another Brown country that has been around since Ancient times. But just being "old" is not good enough to somehow praise them for being the best. In fact, it does raise several questions such as: why didn't India or Ethiopia join the Age of Exploration and colonize the new world before Europeans did? Or similarly, why didn't India launch Space rockets before Germany, Russia and the U.S did. I'm aware India has a Space Program today... but once again, it doesn't quite mean much if they're still playing catchup instead of outcompeting NASA in Space discovery.

Genuine question. Who are the most beautiful non-white women? by Poclurker in debatealtright

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It's not a white nationalist thing. In 2008, literally no black women had been raped by White men.

https://files.catbox.moe/71dnxw.jpg

And several dating surveys show Blacks Women are completely rejected (even by other black men LOL).

https://files.catbox.moe/frfkg3.png

Core tenets of the alt right ranked. by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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I only posted in this thread when my name was literally mentioned and I just posted a quick link in response. Otherwise, I was never part of this debate.

And thank god too, it's just usual hysteria & insanity surrounding the pandemic that has been debunked since day one.

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For babies, you absolute mongo. Do you even read what you shill?

Since when was less than 12 months not a baby? Read the chart again and think about what you just wrote...

Core tenets of the alt right ranked. by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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Update: 10 vaccines (that covers 14 preventable diseases) already exist for babies, some of them even recommend second and third doses.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/easy-to-read/child-easyread.html

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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I don't deny that, and in fact, it helps strengthen my post.

Mixing with light colored DNA has always been the reason a civilization is even able to compete in the world. Whereas mixing with much darker people always resembles the complete opposite.

Case and point: Brazil was founded by Portuguese people and they originally kept the dark skins as slaves. Overtime, both groups mixed but in the states that have the most [pure] White people are the richest, but the states with the most amount of dark skin race mixing are the worse off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_apartheid_in_Brazil#/media/File:Brazilian_States_by_Race.svg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Brazil_-_%25_GDP_by_Federative_Unit.jpg

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Can you be more specific? Murder and invasion is found throughout the world, or do people think the Brown parts of the world are somehow the most peaceful. (spoiler alert: they're not).

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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While it's true that Hispanics are taking the lead, don't forget there's still a lot of immigration from other Black countries.

Like all the Haitians who founds themselves on the Texas border last year.

Or look at Minnesota which has became an enclave for Somalians.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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See my post I made with WalkingIn2Madness.

Tanned or ripe potato skin color =/= actual mud people.

https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/8sm4/besides_egypt_is_there_a_single_most_powerful/wlaf

Now find a world class civilization that looks like that and actually functions.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Have you seen Turkish people lately? They're downright swarthy to a light pink color, but still not Brown.

https://files.catbox.moe/ubxpn8.jpg

This is what Browns look like. A.k.a the current demographic replacement in America.

https://files.catbox.moe/2537n9.jpg

Huge difference and right away, it's bound to fail.

Mughal Empire

Lol, first google result I got and it's all light skinned.

https://files.catbox.moe/20vo6h.png

Russia to Deploy Military to Cuba and Venezuela If US Continues Bullying by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Good luck with the schizo posting.

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then one day started pretending to be "one of us" with no explanation.

This is schizo posting.

If it concerns you so much, just to learn to ignore it. Take it from someone who has 20 years of experience on the Internet but never cared about who I met online.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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The problem with living outside an empire is that you're also at the mercy of other empires from invading you.

The Cold War was direct proof of that. If you weren't allied to the US or USSR, then chances are they would overthrow your government and install a puppet who will.

It was either that, or fight off civil wars that encouraged the same thing (i.e South Africa & Rhodesia).

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Building ships and beeing warriors is being advanced? So we have to put native Americans in the superior civilization pool.

Since when did Natives exceed at either? As warriors, they literally got raped by White Man and now they chug mouthwash on their reserves while begging for more welfare.

As for their ships... uh... cool canoe? Did they actually take their little paddle boats and explore new continents with it? My guess is no...

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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It's intentional. I was once accused of a pro-China bias so here I am putting Japan in their place. :P

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Did the Gypsies build ships like the Vikings did? Or were considered successful warriors? If the answer to both questions are "no" then they are not advanced.

I would have chosen the relation to the proto Indo-Europeans, but you do you.

I don't deny that shades of skin color exist. But regardless, they are not "dark" in the traditional sense like how sub-saharan Africa or India are brown or black. So yes, the closer a race is to white skin color, we naturally expect them to also be a bit more advance too.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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You seem to be confusing the term world power with some kind of claim to superiority.

What do you think the opposite of being a world power means? Does a country like Sudan have more influence or geopolitics than Canada? Why is that? Because they ARE weak..

Any and every civilization that has ever considered themselves to be world power or world leader has a despicable and shameful history of psychopathic and genocidal leadership

Ok, but this is literally true for even the brown races. In fact, guess which country people would rather flee en masse? Mexico or the USA? Mexicans would rather sacrifice themselves in hopes of hopping the border and scrubbing toilets for white people.

Just ask the people of Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria etc about the supposed world leadership of the criminal regime that calls themselves the United States Government and the CIA.

I don't disagree on this. We should in fact leave other countries alone. But the ironic thing is even without U.S interference, they were still killing and enslaving each other for thousands of year before any white people showed up. All white people did was join in on this fun using hi-tech bombs.

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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By the way, even though I put Egypt in the title for being the sole exception, I wouldn't rule out that some or many of their leaders looked closer to Europeans.

Like this scientific reconstruction of what Pharaoh Ramses II may have looked like:

https://files.catbox.moe/ifi14s.jpg

And even more obvious examples like Cleopatra of Macedon.

https://files.catbox.moe/f9ul9f.jpg

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Honorary Whites.

Remember the Iranian general that Trump killed 2 years ago? He could pass for Sean Connery.

https://files.catbox.moe/tfbnuq.jpg

There's also Jon Tron as well, but to be fair, he's half Hungarian/Half Persian

https://files.catbox.moe/k68dyq.jpg

Notice what both men have in common? The most successful Persians are indeed white looking.

Edit: Should also mention there are indeed some very pasty Middle Eastern Men.

Saddam's top general was both white and had red hair.

https://files.catbox.moe/p9ge9y.jpg

The current leader of Syria has fair skin and blue eyes

https://files.catbox.moe/giwt8a.jpg

Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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yeah, tons of dark skinned prominent civilizations, like libyans

Proof the Libyans are dark skin? I imagined they looked like this (Zinedane Zidane whose parents are North African).

https://files.catbox.moe/eqxuli.jpeg

indians,

I've heard theories that India's only greatness was when the Aryans had invaded the continent. But other wise, the Indian race has never been a world power. Just look at how India gained their independence. Gandhi may have lead a non-violent movement, but the Brits got the last laugh and split their country into two (i.e Pakistan & India). And of course, look at India today? They're worse off than when the British tried to tame them.

aztec and so on.

Perhaps compared to the other Amerindians living on the continent. But their place in history is still closer to being slightly more advanced savages. For example, the temples they built only served a purpose for sacrificing humans so the sun could rise each day. Compare that to the "light skin" people who built Cathedrals or Coliseums that served as community centers or theaters of entertainment.

but at this point we should take also in account that the most northern europeans happily lived in primitive tribalistic civilizations until Charlemagne showed up slaughtering saxons until they were enough christianized.

Isn't this a myth? The Vikings for example, had an earnest desire to discover America, hundreds of year before Columbus would try.

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What? I don't understand what your question has to do with my post.

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In an all Brown America, would the soldiers even want to fight?

America has only been a threat because there use to be a lot of Whites soldiers, Fighter Pilots and Sailors who had both the IQ & Stamina to decisively fight to the bitter end.

But if you replace all those people with mutts, blacks & trannies, then these people will end up killing themselves before even stepping foot on the battlefield.

Thus, there's no need for China & Russia to risk apocalyptic nuclear war with the U.S. Just waiting for the demographics to change would be enough to claim victory.

Paul Joseph Watson flying close to the sun by Nasser in debatealtright

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Bit of big risk given any channel with over 1 million subs that discusses socially vilified ideas face a strong chance on termination. His twitter also might come under threat.

Jared Taylor talked about his deplatforming from Youtube and he actually said that his popularity has increased. I think it was in the New Year's Eve episode, where he specifically says more Americans are turning away from mainstream news in favor of independent ones.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6c2tJKTRWRDJ/

I understand for other youtubers, it's their only source of income so they don't want to risk being banned, but I've learned that White replacement is simply too big of an issue to stay silent. It's funny how in real life, people do all sorts of crazy stuff in the name of BLM or Climate Change to get attention, but when the White race is in danger of going extinct, we're expected to just remain calm and not discuss it.

Justice Dept. Creating Unit Focused on Domestic Terrorism - American Renaissance. They mean you and I, obviously. Wrongthink is terrorism. Well I agree. I think there SHOULD be a unit focused on Jewish terrorism of Whites via usurped law enforcement. Slowly... by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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“We have seen a growing threat from those who are motivated by racial animus, as well as those who ascribe to extremist anti-government and anti-authority ideologies,” Olsen said.

So they're finally going to arrest Black Lives Matter?

...right?

Pope Francis: Identity is Being Erased in the Name of Protecting Diversity by DisastrousDepth14 in debatealtright

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I'm saying that asking an international head religious figure to value race over religion is ridiculous

Modern Churches don't realize they promote race, when they fanatically support Israel with their donations, or invite third world Africans to swell their population numbers.

I know this might sound fedora tipping, but it's all the same stuff to me. Plenty of contradictions already envelope religion, might as well put that hypocrisy to good use and have the Church promote White Nationalism instead.

Pope Francis: Identity is Being Erased in the Name of Protecting Diversity by DisastrousDepth14 in debatealtright

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Everytime I think of the Catholic Church & Race Realism, I'm instantly reminded of Brazil or Mexico. Both nations are heavily religious but also ultra shitholes, thanks to rampant race mixing with the Indians & Blacks.

So I don't trust anything that comes out of the Pope unless he straight up says Whiteness is more important than being Christian.

Even a total stranger like the Dalai Lama is much more based than him.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dalai-lama-europe-refugee-crisis-immigration-eu-racism-tibet-buddhist-a8537221.html

How should Entertainment be handled in a Dissident society? by YJaewedwqewq in debatealtright

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Don't take away my Looney Tunes, they were always based.

https://mobile.twitter.com/brettachapman/status/1417887925077954563

The horseshoe theory reminds me why it's better to identify as centrist... by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Not all technology gets wiped out. We can still make fire, etc.

You need to look at natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina or the 2004 Indian Tsunami to see even fire is still useless. Especially, what can you do with it? Fire wont feed you. The only technology that makes sense is building a boat and getting out of there.

But this goes back to the original question of why are people leaving? Because food & water is something we absolutely can't live without...

Sure, cells, organs, etc. will be the same. The only question is whether the process is part of the "essence" of this baby.

Ever since the 1950s, Scientists have already been able to recreate the first building blocks of life in a lab. It was a chemical process called the Miller–Urey experiment. So I would say they are well on their way of being able to create the same essence that is contained in babies.

Once again, I agree. Either there is some world government preventing this or some country will embrace this weapon. The question I am asking (mostly myself) is whether we should just give up and accept our replacement by Cyborgs or try to fight the battle as "natural" human beings? We would be heavily disadvantaged, but at least our end would not be 100% certain. So somewhat like in those sci-fi stories you were talking about, where low-tech humans fought Robots.

Life in general is about survival and instinctively, having more power than others. I could see one argument for cyborgs is that humans bodies impose a lot of natural limits in terms of wanting to be immortal or being able to survive under any condition. If the sun explodes, or an asteroid were to crash into Earth, how many Humans could actually survive? Probably none, since the planet itself would be destroyed. But if robots can bypass the constant need for food or water, or self-repair broken parts, then it becomes obvious that only a robot body can withstand the toughest elements the universe could potentially throw at us.

But once again, I obviously see this as evolution in action. Even if we somehow fight against this technological shift, it also means we must solve other extinction challenges that could happen at any time.

The horseshoe theory reminds me why it's better to identify as centrist... by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Sure, but they have some environment were they can live without technology. We do not.

Earth is our environment and we can live out technology. Proof of this is when technology gets wiped out by natural disasters all the time, or when rolling blackouts render them useless. When these things happen, the first thing people look for is food and water. You can go an entire lifetime without a TV or Car, but you can't go 3 days without being dehydrated or starving.

How is being born via sexual reproduction similar to being 3D printed?

Correction: I don't literally mean the process is the same, but the end result. For example, in natural reproduction, cells are responsible for creating the building blocks of a baby. If we had to do this artificially, I would imagine a robot would be able to recreate organs/lungs/cells from scratch. I'll admit that this idea might not be realistic or sci-fi, so I'll stick with the "grown in a lab" scenario instead.

Edit: Actually, maybe I'm not wrong about the 3d printing being sci-fi. Scientists already appear to have prototypes of printing out organs.

https://www.ft.com/content/67e3ab88-f56f-11e7-a4c9-bbdefa4f210b

See, the transhumanism topic is not the same as Neanderthal vs. Cro-Magnon. These human beings were not asked "do you want these other to exist". Cyborgs on the other hand are a product of us. We are able to decide, whether we want this. Well, at least, assuming we are the guys making the rules.

They weren't asked, but you could say the same about when guns were introduced and used to conquer primitive tribes. Native Africans or Indians would have preferred the playing field be kept equal, but did the Europeans care? No, they simply went to war and defeated the other tribe for losing.

If we were to stop the same thing from happening with Cyborgs, then that require passing some kind of international law or treaty forbidding such research. But unless you can actively enforce it, at least one country will still develop it in secret, because it's a symbol of power. Kind of like nuclear weapons.

The horseshoe theory reminds me why it's better to identify as centrist... by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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It is more like, we need technology to survive. Animals on the other hand can survive without it.

It's completely circumstantial. For example, send any animal into Space without a Space suit and they would die.

Technology is certainly helpful, but having access to food and water is infinitely more important for any species.

A good example, read about the Japanese holdouts. These were soldiers from WW2 who kept fighting years after the official surrender, and other than their guns, they were cut off from civilization and had to live off the land. They didn't perish.

No doubt, we have ancestors. It is more like we have developed into something special.

But what is this "special"? For example, I never denied that humans are indeed the smartest species on the planet. Sure, that's "special". But other animals have their own claims to fame too. For example, humans are definitely not the fastest species. Nor can we hold our breath underwater without passing out or drowning. Evolution gave every creature on Earth unique traits, and it makes sense to absolutely preserve them.

Sure, it is just once again the technological dependence.

We would sooner collapse from lack of food or water, then from being away from a computer or a stick. That's our biological limitation. Technology helps but if you can't even feed your body, it's worthless. Remember Steve Jobs? All his life, he was in charge of Apple and was constantly surrounded by technology. But once he got sick and his body couldn't go on any further, technology just didn't matter.

Sure, they probably did communicate, maybe even with words. The questions is, whether they were able to make complex statements, like sentences with inferences. You are right, I should try to check some anthropological literature for this.

It's not just Apes, there are Humans today who are mentally disabled and have trouble speaking or can't speak at all. But this is only proof that having a certain intelligence threshold is important, not that a lack of IQ makes you an animal. If any one of us got into a serious car accident and lost our ability to speak, did we stop being Humans? No.

Sure, but is our species just some code an a hard drive?

If we can take these genetic instructions and either 3D print or grow in a lab an exact replica of Human, that's no different from one born through natural methods, than the morbid answer is yes.

I will admit though, that this type of topic is trippy and even freaks me out sometimes about why is this possible. But that's also the beauty of trying to learn and understand why life is like this.

I agree, all technology changes our behavior. The difference is, that none of these technologies has replaced us with something else. Cyborgs on the other hand are not just some replacement for our smartphones, no, they are the replacement for us.

The whole concept of evolution and natural selection has seen species replace one another because of survival of the fittest. If Robot Men enter society and are clearly superior at everything, then just like in the movies, some kind of techno-war will break out, or people will assimilate and wish to join the superior race. Hell, even without robots, the exact same phenomenon is used to describe immigration.

Whites build better and more advance societies that now has non-whites flocking to them. We have many arguments and debates on how exactly we're suppose to this. Or in the case of the other side, they have arguments on how they want to be replaced. It wouldn't surprise me that perhaps Robots in the future will have the same discussion.

"Dude, stop being racist and open your borders to the humans. Can't you see we're all equal!"

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All of these groups have houses (or something akin to this), use fire, have tools for hunting, etc. So yes, all of these people use technology.

So what exactly is the disagreement? That technology doesn't make us animal or acts as something special? My reasoning is you can't have technology without the brain part. "But other animals have brains too!" Yes, but we also know throughout the animal kingdom, that complex brains and levels of intelligence are still distributed. I actually remember Octopus are the most interesting example. They have brains located in every arm. It wouldn't surprise me that they can actually process information better than humans, but because they don't have thumbs, they will never use their full potential.

https://biogeoplanet.com/why-do-octopuses-have-9-brains-8-arms-3-hearts-and-blue-blood-surprising-facts/

Yes, we are living things. But so are trees and you would not call them animals.

Correct, but according to the theory of evolution, we all still share a common ancestor. Eukaryotes to be exact.

But I think my point is obvious. What makes us animals is we share more in common with other living beings as opposed to a rock or robot. And this is important because we can only trace our ancestry to other species that were on this Earth, millions of years before. We didn't just show up randomly, other organisms had to exist first to spawn us.

See, the mammoth is just an example. Fight against elephants, lions or something similar and you will face the same problems in other parts of the world.

What happens to Humans who live around those creatures today? They either fight them, or run away. It doesn't mean Humans stop existing. Evolution is driven by environmental pressures and without pressure to change, we remain.

Let us accept this for the sake of the argument. But which pre-human being is able to hold a serious discussion. Just showing some image of the head is somewhat weak evidence. Otherwise, there should be some sort of ape, which was to able to do it, right?

I'll admit, I'm not actually an expert on how language first originated. Or what are the real capacities of an ape-like ancestor being able to hold a conversation to humans today. My only real life comparison is to look at studies done with Koko the Gorilla, and scientists were able to teach her sign language and use it to communicate back with us. So it's clear that our ancestors could have most likely used words or even form sentences to describe things or talk with each other. But the real limits of this, you'll have to ask an Anthropologist.

No problem and thanks for the interesting discussion. I am neither a primitivist nor an anti-empiricist. I just believe, that our decisions should also (!) take questions (like philosophical ones) into consideration, which might not be fully quantifiable. So let us return to a question from my first comment. Let us assume that in some decades (maybe centuries or millenia) there was technology to fully change the genome. We would be able to remove genetic diseases, make everyone highly intelligent and "improve" human beings in tons of other ways. So from a strictly scientific point of view, we should create custom human beings in the lab, right? And maybe science told us, that some organs are no longer needed, then let us remove those as well, right? My problem is, that this would abolish our people or our species as we know it today. I find it strange, that some people say they want to preserve their race, but do not see the problem with trans-humanism. In the future, a child born to two black parents can have the gene code of the average white American. From a strictly genetic point of view, he is white. But is this really all we should care about or are there other questions like ancestry, that should influence our thinking and policies? To be clear, you did not talk about topics like transhumanism, but like I said, I think this discussion will inevitably arise and our reaction depends on the question, whether our thinking should only be guided by empirical data.

If we can create humans in a lab, I would assume that also means we would have saved all the original genetic information somewhere on a computer and in essence, we did still preserve the human race forever.

I understand your concerns about what would happen when we start taking apart organs and become closer and closer to cyborgs or even machines. Well, just based on how technology constantly advances, I do think some type of future where Man & Machine merge is inevitable.

In fact, you can even look at the state of humans today. Do you not own a cellphone? Do you carry it around with it everywhere? What you have in your possession is basically a mini computer in your pocket. I also bet you store important and private information on it as well? If you were to lose your cellphone, you would also be losing a part of yourself, because it's importance in society is second to none.

Now I know what you're thinking. "But humans didn't always need smartphones or computers" and that's true. But since humans are always looking to conquer or have more power over others, we stopped using our fists thousands of years ago, and turned to the latest gadgets to have complete dominion over others. First it was the stick, then it was sharp tools like knives, than it was guns, and now wars don't even need to be fought with people anymore. We have drones and the economy to inflict heavy damage on people. In the future, it's obvious someone is going to take this idea further and adopt robot parts because it means they will be much smarter, stronger and even potentially immortal, in which case, your average human has no choice but to copy this or face being conquered again...

As for this type of future being good or bad for us in the long run, plenty of sci-fi movies explore this concept. One major example is clearly The Matrix or The Terminator. The most powerful beings are Robots, but somehow there is still a much more primitive Human group to resist them. Whether or not the Robots are right or the Humans are wrong will remain a debate for the upcoming centuries.

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Well, animals also have a brain. Apart from this, do you believe we would have survived the days of the neanderthal without technology? Do you believe we would have fought a mammoth with bare hands or what would have happened?

There are plenty of humans today who don't depend on technology today. The Amish or Mennonite communities avoid electricity. Or go even more primitive and look at tribes in Africa.

I do not that our larger brain capacity has enabled us to do more and affect our surroundings. But I don't exactly treat this as an argument for why we're still not animals. I still remember from Grade School science class on how we define living things. Do we eat? Do we need rest? Do we reproduce? We're clearly not robots or some inanimate object. In strict evolutionary terms, we are just higher Apes. And even if we couldn't win against the Mammoths, there were still other Humans scattered throughout the Earth. Similar to how Chimpanzees have remained the same because their environment was good enough for them, then Humans living in Africa or Asia would kept their primitive forms instead.

Might be, even though I highly doubt, that they had any sort of (complex) language.

It's not really "might". Look at any human evolution graph and the differences become quite small near the end. It's the size and shape of the head that basically defines modern humans.

https://files.catbox.moe/vw1g9n.jpg

Sure, but we do exist. Hence, the question whether we should try to preserve our existence.

The obvious answer is yes, but the question was framed in a way that we somehow have control over this when we're extinct. I brought up the dinosaurs who lived their day to lives technically fighting their existence, until one day a volcano or asteroid wiped them all out and all that remains is their bones. They're not aware of their fate, despite at one time existing. The same is true with Humans. If we're all gone tomorrow, that's it. But we can do our best while we're still alive today...

Fine, but what does the existence of us, call it our family, race, species or whatever have to do with ghosts and spirits? I get it, believing in any of this might influence some people to make more babies, but you can definitely make babies without believing in god, ghosts or spirits.

See the previous paragraph. I do understand and believe in the idea of self-preservation. But as a concept, it only works when the animal actually exists in the present time and has control of their actions.

I agree, these are great ideas to help our preservation. Even though we might ask ourselves, whether every possible technology should be used or whether some might have negative consequences.

That's what left/right-wing debates in politics are for. Before it all got hijacked by race and multiculturalism, it was absolutely fair to question whether we pay too much taxes, or not enough. Should we fund more hospitals or the military?

Life is a puzzle and for the past thousand years, humans have tried many kinds of civilizations in order to survive and pass down their genes. I would argue that we are living in the best times though, when technology is balanced in relation to our biological needs. Hence the biggest threat right now when it comes to preserving people, in particular race, is globalism and mass immigration.

I just wanted to explore the question, whether radical empiricism is nihilistic and maybe whether nihilism is bad.

I apologies for going off-topic but I'll reiterate that radical empiricism aims to explain how and why certain real life behaviors exists, and through the use of data and scientific studies, we can make choices or decisions that are in fact, better at preserving life as opposed to destroying it.

In my OP, I had two examples that drove this point across. On the Left, it was the dogmatic claim that race differences don't exist and society should never question why certain patterns exist (i.e blacks failing school, blacks doing more crime, are seen as "systematic" problems and not genes or biological).

But on the right, there where also certain government objectors who only put themselves in harms way because they had more faith a supernatural being can make better judgements or save them, as opposed to other and more smarter human leaders around them.

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The "dieting is white supremacy" is pretty genius.

Convince non-whites to become landwhales and they wont be able to riot and protest anymore. They'll be so fat, the majority of them will be stuck at home or in a hospital recovering from diabetes.

It's a such a diabolical plan, you have to wonder if the Liberals are white nationalists. It reminds me of the spic-nig cycle:

https://files.catbox.moe/8i59ad.jpg

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The Forbes article is very preachy for MSM, but every other source confirms that drug itself was never sponsored by their government.

In fact, I found the opposite. The ivermectin came from India, which is obviously not part of Japan...

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/02/21/national/drugs-import-coronavirus/

An increasing number of people in Japan are taking imported COVID-19 drugs that are not authorized for use in the country, prompting public health officials to issue a warning against taking such medicine. Side effects from unauthorized medicines may not be compensated for by the government, the health ministry warned. A woman in her 40s in Shizuoka Prefecture is among those who have imported such drugs. She took ivermectin, an antiparasitic drug produced by an Indian company that is not approved for treating COVID-19 in Japan. She ordered the drug through an import agent after doing her own research, including by reading papers available from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Regardless, these people taking these third party drugs are just delaying the inevitable. Get a vaccine shot which is guaranteed to boost your immune system, and never have to worry about the virus again.

That's why I find the antivax crap hilarious. The vaccines are provided for free, but go ahead and waste your money on another "big pharma" company instead.

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Are humans really just animals? I have my doubts. Humans have are, in contrast to animals, not fit for their environment. Great apes have big feet and other body parts, that help them in their environment. Humans also do not have these powerful teeth, that predator animals have to best kill other animals. There are tons of other reasons, but anyways, humans are imperfect for any environment and thus, need to transform nature via technology, need to develop language, etc. Something, that animals do not need to do. Since this is not our main question, I will leave this question with this comment. I already said, that

We don't need to do those things. We only do it, because our brain, A BIOLOGICAL ORGAN, gives us the ability to do so.

Our ape-like ancestors possessed these identical traits. The only thing they lacked in comparison to modern man was cranial capacity. But otherwise, we are animals. We evolved directly from them instead of showing up on this floating space rock randomly.

Sure, life will still exist without us. But the obvious question is: Do you care, if you humanity goes extinct? A purely scientific point of view will lead to Transhumanism. Hence, mankind will be replaced by some new species, cyborgs or however you want to call it. This is an essential part of my critique. There is no scientific reason for mankind to always exist. You yourself admit this, by stating:

If everyone of us dies tomorrow, that question becomes moot. We can only care about humanity for as long we actually exist. But if humanity goes extinct because of say... nuclear war, or the sun exploding, then our species will be viewed the exact same way as the dinosaurs. There was proof they once existed, but not anymore...

Edit: And to cast more doubt on spirituality, why is it even possible for a fragile species like Man to be allowed to go extinct in the first place? Surely no one here would be afraid of nukes going off if it meant we would all survive thanks to having faith? Except, everyone on Earth is afraid of the possibility of going extinct from such an event. There's no one outside of Earth who can stop it, unless we count aliens (ayy lmao).

This is the problem. You do not care for our existence to be preserved. The existence of us has no importance. Hence, I call it nihilism.

I do not believe we will become ghosts or spirits, who have the ability to watch over Earth and see our rotting corpses on the ground. We literally do not have that ability.

If you want to preserve humanity, you must do the following:

-Reproduce and have as many children as possible

-Create a civilization that can sustain itself and the planet

-Invest in technology that can reduce sickness, mortality and other things that can extend our lifespan

-Don't vote in genocidal or stupid leaders who can destroy the earth at a push of a button

That's it. Praying to a god or having faith that we will live forever in some kind of afterlife does nothing to preserve us. There is simply no evidence for this stuff, and it takes away precious resources from doing real work here on Earth, and while we're still alive before we succumb to old age and die like every animal in history.

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I read the definition of nilhism and:

the rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.

I never said we must embrace calling life meaningless.

However... it is an objective fact that Humans are animals, and we did not show up on Earth until millions of year later, when plenty of other species in the world had already existed.

To me, that's enough evidence that says we're not that special. Hell, humanity could go extinct tomorrow, life will still exist without us.

Take that as a hard lesson for why empiricism matters. We definitely have a purpose, but it's to reproduce and pass on our genes. Monkeys do it, and so do Pigs and Dogs. But are they special? No. Than neither is Mankind.