What do you guys think is going to happen first; Civil war on Europe, or a world war 3?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

We're already in a proxy war with Russia but we shall see with China.

There was always a proxy war with China. It's called North Korea.

China also doesn't recognize Taiwan and claims the island.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

that korean war ended a while ago. It's true they have support from china but it's not like we're actively fighting them over it. Taiwan is the thing I might be worried about where China might invade them but I'm not sure we'd go to war over that even though we threaten to. There have been many theories as to why China has never invaded them or why they're such an important small island. One theory is there are ancient chinese artifacts on the island that they would destroy if China dared to invade.

[–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

that korean war ended a while ago.

It never ended.

On July 27, 1953, North Korea, China, and the United States signed an armistice agreement. South Korea, however, objected to the continued division of Korea and did not agree to the armistice or sign a formal peace treaty. So while the fighting ended, technically the war never did.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

what is this source of this quote here. it's clearly ended. If North Korea wants to restart it, and they have often tested out missiles to threaten this, they could. Would be a bad idea, but they could.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

North and South Korea still fight each other but the scale is low level.

Such as when North Korea sunk a South Korean Ship back in 2010 for example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Cheonan_sinking

North Korea also has nuclear weapons which makes retaliation an incredible risk.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Cheonan_sinking

sounds like that is disputed. And yeah them having nukes, and South Korea's allies having nukes makes the war restarting there not as likely. But the korean war in the 50s was not part of a world war anyway, that was a proxy war. Where both sides allies, USA and China/Russia, had nukes. But saying that war is still going on is like saying the USA civil war is still going on because some people didn't like the outcome.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Learn to use a search engine and you should have paid better attention at school.

It's not like there is a very active war, but no peace treaty has been signed and wars only end when either one of the parties was killed completely or a peace treaty has been signed. Neither of those events have happened.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

read your own Wikipedia links chief

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, ‘war’ stops whenever there is no longer large scale conflict between the participants. This is like those people who say Vietnam wasn’t a war because ‘War requires a declaration from congress” or some BS. By that logic the US has been in no wars at all since WW2…