Meta-analysis suggests education causally raises IQ

submitted by EthnocratArcheofuturist from self.debatealtright

Can anyone debunk this? The effect size looks way too big to be true.

Study:

https://labs.la.utexas.edu/tucker-drob/files/2019/08/Ritchie-Tucker-Drob-2018-Psych-Science-How-Much-Does-Education-Improve-Intelligence.pdf

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not unbelievable. The brain gets better at solving problems the more it is trained. There is a hard ceiling obviously, but working your brain does pay off to an extent.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Across 142 effect sizes from 42 data sets involving over 600,000 participants, we found consistent evidence for beneficial effects of education on cognitive abilities of approximately 1 to 5 IQ points for an additional year of education.

It's a chicken and egg scenario.

People born with high IQs have the attention span or desire to stay in school longer.

Whereas genetically low IQ people are going to end up failing more classes and likely dropping out before High School.

This correlates directly with race. America is probably the country that spends the most money per student head, yet Blacks still don't give a damn about school and they would rather be rappers or basketball players.

It's only Whites & Asians who are more serious and see being a Doctor or CEO as a better life goal.

Edit: We also have other studies that compare races who achieved their highest academic level, and yet IQ levels still differ. The average Black who completes university might have an IQ of 105 but the average White or Asian would be 130 points or higher.

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People born with high IQs have the attention span or desire to stay in school longer.

I have the attention span of a goldfish, but I am also one of those people who doesn't need to study much, even at the collegiate level, to perform well.

[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's to debunk? Because:

Education appears to be the most consistent, robust, and durable method yet to be identified for raising intelligence.

hardly seems implausible. The paper does not include the words "race" or "ethnic" anywhere, so the relevance to our thing is probably minimal. The only part of the abstract that raises an eyebrow for me is:

we found consistent evidence for beneficial effects of education on cognitive abilities of approximately 1 to 5 IQ points for an additional year of education.

which makes it sound like you can pump up IQ scores indefinitely by tacking on more years of education. Raise your IQ by up to 150 points by going to school for 30 years! Presumably the rest of the paper will make it clear what was meant by this sentence. For all we know, it's +1 IQ point per year for blacks and +5 per year for Asians or something.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not unbelievable. The brain gets better at solving problems the more it is trained. There is a hard ceiling obviously, but working your brain does pay off to an extent.

[–]Viil6t0ne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This article goes over this study; Ctrl +f "Head Start and Education Don’t Raise Intelligence"

TrannyPornO goes over it with someone here too.

[–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The effect is not on g.

Study from the same author: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4445388/

[–]Fourth_stage 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From the study: "It is important to consider whether specific skills—those described as “malleable but peripheral” by Bailey et al. (2017, p. 15)—or general abilities—such as the general g factor of intelligence—have been improved (Jensen, 1989; Protzko, 2016). The vast majority of the studies in our meta-analysis considered specific tests and not a latent g factor, so we could not reliably address this question."

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We knew this already. Other studies have found that the gain is eventually lost.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course it does, it just raises it more in genetically smarter people. If you raise a child in a dark box it will not do well on standardized test. Just a guess.