The catastrophic failure of science worship during the COVID hysteria presents an opportunity for our side. Science-skeptical discourse will certainly gain steam in the coming months/years.

submitted by Bagarmoossen from self.debatealtright

After more than a year of an upended society, COVID is again surging in the US and Europe, allegedly due to the "Delta strain". In America, there are almost as many people in ICUs now as there were exactly a year ago, despite zero "vaccination rate" at the time and over 70% now. Muh "SCIENCE!!!!1" is failing spectacularly before our eyes, and this presents a huge opportunity for our side.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations

Some examples of what weaponized "SCIENCE!!!!1" has given us in the past 1 1/2 year:

  • Unprecedented and illegal lockdowns that were used as a pretext to murder the last remnants of freedom one still had. Western populations are being treated as if they were oriental serfs or obedient african slaves.
  • Creepy mandatory face coverings that have wreaked havoc on human relationships and social trust. Not to talk about the overall depressing and apocalyptic atmosphere this generates.
  • A climate of generalized hysteria that has people binging on hyperbolic news and case numbers, becoming paranoid, depressed and basically going borderline insane.
  • Young people being brainwashed to act against their own interests, being robbed of their health, youth and the activities that are essential for their successful mental and physical development. Depending on how much longer this goes on, we might be talking about a lost generation.
  • Experimental "vaccines" that were rushed through without undergoing proper trialing being mass distributed across the globe. Although the probability that something goes wrong is relatively low, the consequences of side effects emerging a few years from now would be so horrifying that this already qualifies as criminal negligence and a potential genocide.
  • Under implementation: dystopian "vaccine passes", just to enslave the serfs even harder. Treat the masked hordes like filthy animals and maybe at some point they'll understand their inferiority and stop demanding dignified treatment
  • Potentially, COVID itself; Best-case scenario being a "simple" lab-leak due to incompetence and worst-case being a literal bioweapon.

The system's intent is to enslave us fully, to steer the ship into transhumanist techno-totalitarianism and certain annihilation at full speed. That can only be stopped through massive mobilization. The mobilization will inevitably have to be of a science-skeptical, anticapitalist, esoteric and völkisch nature. The French are leading the way, and their approach should be copied as much as possible.

The struggle we are faced with is only one: we are demanding to be treated as unique individuals, parts of unique peoples with a unique history, culture, appearance and genetic makeup. The techno-capitalist global dictatorship wishes to turn us into replaceable, raceless, de-cultured and ideally faceless blank slates. It already treats us as such. Massive immigration, cultural genocide, covidism, Social-media groupthink, miscegenation and transhumanism are all faces of the same monster.

On a sidenote, this Degrowth magazine cover from France: "facing the techno-sanitary monster". This is a fertile ground for dissident politics because it enrages the traditionalist right as much as the "alternative", hippie-ish, organic-garden left. http://www.ladecroissance.net/images/181.jpg

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[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a great opportunity provided that you don't come off as a crank, which is easy if you point out only that which is so obvious that no ideological motivation is necessary to say it. For example:

  1. For science to be useful requires a foundation of trust and there are reasons we don't have it

  2. The demands of making a living as a scientist are often at odds with actually practicing the scientific method. See scientody vs. scientistry

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Potentially, COVID itself; Best-case scenario being a "simple" lab-leak due to incompetence and worst-case being a literal bioweapon.

In my research on this I've found that covid-19 is really just a combination of the seasonal flu and symptoms of spike protein exposure in the vaccinated and spike protein shedding into the unvaxxed. There is a weaponized strain of covid developed by Fauchi and the cabal through gain of function research but it hasn't been released yet. The people afraid of 'covid' are participating in a type of mass psychosis event. Treat them as you would any insane homeless person wandering through the street mumbling and shrieking.

The entire point of the 'covid-19 hype' was the vaccine itself and the control grid that will be put in place around it. The testing is proprietary and owned by the same people that own the unreleased bio weapon. The elites have full control here and each new variant they are going to push for more and more vaccines which most likely will cause a physiological reliance on the vax. Basically at some point people will be forced into taking vaccines to supplement their broken immune systems for life.

The system's intent is to enslave us fully, to steer the ship into transhumanist techno-totalitarianism and certain annihilation at full speed.

Yup. Basically this. Get out of the cities while you still can (if you still can).

[–]Wrangel 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Science has done exceptionally well during the pandemic and has provided us with medical care that saved millions of lives and several highly effective vaccines a short period of time.

The big failure is politicians who kept the borders open letting the virus in. They let large jets from China land in the west. While South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and China quickly put a stop to the pandemic our governments proved incompetent and couldn't stop the virus leading to 1.5 years of pandemic. We had little preparedness for a predictable crisis and we quickly ran out of necessities. It was obvious that the globalists has planned for the end of history rather than major disasters happening.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This. Science didn't fail at all. Liberalism failed.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"The big failure is politicians who kept the borders open letting the virus in."

Yes, yeeees, drink the kool-aid!

[–]Bagarmoossen[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Saved "millions of lives" - mostly old people with a foot on the grave already- but at what cost? Why should society be disrupted, young people punished and human relationships annihilated to the extent we have seen just to prolong the lives of people who have already seen their best years? Science-worship is clearly having catastrophic effects on society. Prolonging the lives of the elderly by a few years is not worth destroying what still remains of western civilization.

When I say "science-skepticism" I do not mean a total rejection of science. But the focus should be shifted away from it in favor of a more natural and humane way of living.

Also, SK and Japan still have major restrictions. Sure, a few old people didn't die early, but they're still making life miserable for the young and most productive elements, depressing birth rates even further. Australia has had zero Covid for the whole pandemic and is back under a draconian lockdown. So, what really is the point in temporarily "controlling" Covid?

[–]Wrangel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Asian countries ripped the bandaid off fast and stopped the pandemic. The west is so infested with liberalism and individualism that we can't have an organized response and instead we have had 1.5 years of semi-lockdown. The why should I bother attitude is the same attitude that has promoted all sorts of degeneracy and multiculturalism. If people thought what is best for my society and not just about themselves all the time we would have a fraction of the problems that we have.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you, I've wanted to communicate the same message.

How can anyone expect society to function with unfettered consequences? We have laws against murder to disincentivize wonton killings. It's no surprise the Asian countries excel at keeping their murder rate low, and infection rates down as well, because they understand what being responsible means. Just exercising your right to sneeze and cough on people shows a complete lack of respect for yourself and all those around you.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People should NOT be skeptical of science, they should be skeptical of politically motivated people claiming to "know" what's going on or not even caring what's going on, just spinning a tall tale to manipulate the masses. Like "God is angry with you, do what I say to appease God, or we'll be forced to kill you. Trust me, it's God's will".

In fact, people should DEMAND real science from their politicians, hard data and proper statistics. They should insist on statistical arguments from a range of experts. The "Fact Checkers" on social media are a fucking joke, an insult to the real scientific debates that rage on and on about any topic.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Live long and prosper.