Re-peaking aggressively - TiM conflates NOT having period pain to phantom pain (repost as I accidentally deleted the first one...)

forwardback · 2020-09-09T20:00:32+00:00

I find it truly anger inducing when women apologize for their speech. Men don't apologize. And accept my virtual applause for your restraint. Great post!

forwardback · 2020-09-14T13:13:15+00:00

So, because women felt unsafe at a mixed sex homeless shelter, a women's only shelter was set up that not only admits men, but prioritizes men and scolds women. Huh. Ultimately, what was the point? This is considered progressive? Female harassment. This is what woke is?

These predators always go after the vulnerable first, the incarcerated, the abused, the homeless, the young ("and dumb"). Give the predators time and encouragement, they'll be emboldened to branch out and, maybe, only a handful of women could ever be safe. It'll be open season on women year round. Incel heaven. That time is coming if this erasure of women is not stopped NOW. Why do people find it so hard to think ahead?

Wandering off, still ranting, ""$&@!!?!" stupid little $&@!?/& virtue signaling women. $&@%#! self centered males! Ought to be..." Words fade.

forwardback · 2020-10-31T03:53:53+00:00

Where's the Libfems telling "her" to "go for it! Sex work is empowering!"??????

forwardback · 2020-10-29T22:13:46+00:00

A worrying trend has emerged recently of non-trans uterus owners demanding the removal of inclusive language when dealing with gender-related issues.

I laughed out loud at this first sentence! Then reading the article, the "me, me, me, I, I, I" got to me (irritated wise). Please tell me Jarvis is being satirical. Shouldn't he be focused more on his reflection, than on other people's words?

forwardback · 2020-09-22T07:18:14+00:00

Lack of empathy is a polite way to state it. He negged you. That's rude and manipulative.

forwardback · 2021-01-08T21:38:37+00:00

Judge:

“I accept that had it not been for the alleged victim in this case there probably wouldn’t have been an incident. The four of you then were subjected to extremely offensive transphobic and racial abuse. Had it not been for that there would have been no violent disorder. ^1. However that does not excuse what you did, you went far too far in your reactions, but of course transphobic issues are particularly sensitive. It is a sign that the so-called victim realised how wrong he was by refusing to cooperate and not make any statement. I do not in any way condone your behaviour but I accept that what happened to you at the beginning of the incident was entirely wrong and people like you should not be subject to that abuse in the public domain or anywhere. You are being punished for your overreaction to someone who has escaped punishment altogether.“²

(Formatting mine)

1- know-it-all, woke judge knows for a fact these four would never have been violent in any other situation. Rigghht...

2- escaped punishment? Dude was beaten up! Victim blaming. Precedent setting?

forwardback · 2020-09-22T21:03:58+00:00

There is no unacceptable number of women and girls to be sacrificed for the pleasures of males.

forwardback · 2020-10-30T19:53:51+00:00

OMG, yes! Party loyalties are NOT the answer! Please, let us take up the question presented in this article: "And how will this affect women?" Please, let this be our common focus!

The mistake that feminists have made again and again, not only in America but also in this country, is to prioritise animosity towards the right over a clear-eyed understanding of the attitude that the left takes towards women. The results of that mistake are, I think, beginning to become too glaring to ignore.

Package deal ethics produces not only blind tribalism but also incoherence

I submit package deal ethics enables inaction on all the issues involved! Lip service only is the result.

The time has run out for the "party's good on this issue, we'll get to that issue later" thinking. Let's focus- on Women and girls! If we don't, no one will!

forwardback · 2020-11-11T16:14:54+00:00

I also believe it's unhelpful to say their beliefs are "not real".

Sorry, as a scientist, this ~~statement~~ reasoning does not compute. Reality can be unpleasant, but denial is problematic, to understate.

forwardback · 2020-11-07T06:43:55+00:00

Yea, I was really appalled by some of the political, tribalistic comments even displayed on that thread. Is such directed rhetoric not divisive? Does no one use qualifiers like "some, a percentage," or even "most" anymore? Passions are high with the possible, if not probable, pending loss of women's legal rights, protections, and spaces, but this smacks of redirected aggression to me. And, yeah, it's sexist. It's not subtle. Edit. Construction, bolding

forwardback · 2020-11-05T19:43:40+00:00

Gender ideology is foolish, abusive, and dangerous. Gender (stereotypes) should be abandoned- left to the WTF category in history.

Sex is real and it matters. True science, also.

TW are men. TM are women. NB is BS.

forwardback · 2020-11-07T19:19:52+00:00

I submit: it may also be "subjugate women and keep them busy", as women are often the driving force, and actual doers, of anything that gets accomplished. A diversion as well as an assault. Edit. Cannot get it right the first time. Argghh

forwardback · 2020-09-28T09:00:51+00:00

Pulling the "gay community" card? Oh that's rich.

forwardback · 2021-01-05T14:29:26+00:00

"Reddit". Enough said.

forwardback · 2020-12-29T08:07:53+00:00

Wokeness agenda. This is another step in normalizing the retraining and repositioning of women in society.

Mmm. Do you have any ties to college organizations or clubs that used to have a women focus? Is there an alumni group? Are you still in contact with college friends? Were you a Member of a women's fraternity? Perhaps if you (or another likeminded alum) would ping the connections and relay such observations, along with concerns? Offer insight into past practices and facilities, history of the toileting-leash on women, urinary urgency impact on learning, and emphasis on male/female ratio of the student body of the college? (Needn't be Transmnop issue- just questioning, as you're doing in this post.) Seems history and past practices are being withheld from a/o denigrated in front of today's youth. A rational inquiry could be actionable. May be more effective to approach Administration via students and Alumni groups...

forwardback · 2020-09-09T19:33:31+00:00

My father's a raging misogynist. Keeping my mouth shut and my eyes and ears open over the years, enabled me to observe the insecurity, violence, and lack of intellectual depth and empathy of the majority of men, and the strength, proactive tactical thinking, and endurance, of the majority of women. Seems common sense to me to treat humans as humans, adjusting according to the individual, not the group. I'm a scientist (observer, thanks to dad), so I don't buy into equality, but I do envision respect, and the end of patriarchy. My mother is an extraordinarily intelligent woman who excels at her work and assessing situations, motives, politics. Can't express enough gratitude and awe for her. I learned from her to speak up, speak out, and speak back. Also, she counseled that opinions of others (who may well be idiots) should matter less to me than whether I am able to live with myself. I'm not a Marxist. Politically, I'm an independent. I've lived on my own since college graduation, had my tubes tied at 25, bought my own house at 27. Tried marriage for 4 years at age 34, but found I'd bought into a liar and thief. I've lived alone longer than I've lived with other people, including childhood. As appropriate, I try to prompt women to think past the obvious and the expected. I challenge men when pushed too far. In my area, men, up until the last decade, were rocked back on their heels by an unflinching assertive woman who'd get up in their face. I've been watching the diminishing of women and their position in society over the years and I fear for women in the near future. Elements are coming together to thrust women back to non-personhood. This is not a drill!

forwardback · 2020-11-08T22:48:35+00:00

Riddle me this then...

If the creator is a TW, and TWAW, then wouldn't the original female character be "living the dream" for the creator? Isn't turning the female character into a transgender, in effect, admitting TW are NOT Women (whether or not this move was done for woke points or marketing reasons). Hmmmm?

Seems to me, these "identity uber alles" folx just can't fully commit.

forwardback · 2020-10-31T04:29:32+00:00

Maybe there'll be an explanation, but not a coherent one. No doubt, it will blame women, regardless. :(

forwardback · 2020-10-28T19:29:42+00:00

This (policy) is such a blatant assault on women. I'm hoping if/when such an assault and lawsuit occurs in the US, the victim also files civil suits against EVERY pro-policy legislator and their staffs, and the lobbying groups, that colluded to pass such laws. Hit 'em hard, well documented, and LOUD. Court of public opinion as well as the legal system. This sh$& must end! I'll live on beans & rice for a year to contribute to such a woman's legal expenses!

forwardback · 2020-09-22T07:27:37+00:00

And this is why men want to keep women from talking without them. Lol. You are brilliant! :)

forwardback · 2020-11-04T22:20:19+00:00

There are a number of reasons why people are fleeing Cali and Wash. Now if they'd only stop voting the same way once they move elsewhere.

It's like they can't grasp the concept of "cause and effect".

forwardback · 2020-09-17T23:23:20+00:00

WHY don't these idiots (politicians et al) realize these "Equality Acts" are actually an assault on the First Amendment Right of freedom of speech? The government to punish its citizens for stating a woman is an adult human female? That sex is a biological, hence scientific, fact????? Where are the constitutional lawyers?

forwardback · 2021-01-09T00:26:48+00:00

American woman (registered Independent) who voted Trump. Climate/race do NOT supercede the impending Dems erasure of women as a sex class in Civil Rights law. Like, duh, it'll affect ME, legally, socially, and will affect my safety, and bodily privacy!! Of course, this gender-uber-alles threat is priority concern. I refuse to be demoted from "person" to "f*hole"!

Besides, Trump has a sense of humor. That can't be said for the Wokerattii authoritarians. My 2 cents.

forwardback · 2020-11-09T17:07:50+00:00

I am saying my own opinions here.

I believe a large percentage of US women who either vote Republican, or are willing to consider, research, and vote any/all parties on their ballot, are persons who may be less likely to announce their vote in public forums. Or, perhaps it is a function of age, or regional customs.

Casting one's vote has traditionally been a private issue. I remember the large, metal, mobile, voting booths which had mechanical curtains that would close via a large lever to set the machine to vote. After selections were made, the large lever was thrown back to the original position, logging the votes and opening the curtain. Even today, in my region, cardboard tabletop "cubicles" are set up for privacy. I know my own opinions on discussing my votes casts have been heavily influenced by my mother, who had me with her in the booth when she voted until I was old enough to look out for my own safety (13 yo?). She emphasized the importance of voting, women's history, and how she evaded my father's influence on, and inquiries of, her votes. ;)

I am most grateful women from UK and Canada have spoken up and worked to keep women from being erased and used/abused. Personally, I believe women are DONE if we have no language, visibility, or respect. I try to imagine (especially political) trends and movements to their potential conclusions, and this "gender not sex" protections threat is TERRIFYING. Evil people do exist, and women themselves MUST admit dystopia IS possible, nah, I submit: probable.

Edit Why don't women have x, y, or z that some women rant about not having? Because, there was a previous time when most women said "we'll get to that later"... Edit2 redundancy corrected

forwardback · 2020-10-30T20:32:45+00:00

Yes, thank you for sharing the comments!

forwardback · 2020-10-30T16:24:25+00:00

I agree with this. This is no time for censorship or political ideology separatism, IMO!

forwardback · 2020-09-29T12:54:26+00:00

I remember when employees would strike for fair pay, benefits, a/o safer working conditions. But, this??!! Clown world.

forwardback · 2020-11-10T20:30:40+00:00

2022 will be an interesting mid term election. Plenty of people who were personally turned off by Trump will go right back to the republicans.

Oh, you are so right!! But I've also seen that so many moderate conservatives and lateish century liberals were ecstatic the neocons and other extreme elements of the Republican party HATED Trump. Many of these moderates may also feel politically homeless relatively soon depending upon how soon and vengeful the extremists take total party power.

Edit. I envision both parties trying to squeeze the political center out of existence (along with the middle class). Or, familiar with Germany history anyone? Time will tell if I'm nuts, or not. Either way, women are screwed.

forwardback · 2020-11-07T17:18:35+00:00

Mmmm. I'm not on Ovarit, but in issue forums I admit to staunch speech. Sometimes it's warranted to relay issue importance or shut down subversion. e.g. Misogyny in women's forums or TRA trolls

Politics is a filthy tool feminists must deal with, and, historically, things quickly get nasty. But Women fighting for their issues in politics are different- we're not the default in society, we're ignored, dismissed, a/o used and abused, in any group, any area, our whole lives. So, when women fiercely cling to party affiliations and point fingers at other women, there IS also this sexist element. It is inherent in our social position (edit) and conditioning. We should be aware of it. IMO, the women in that Ovarit thread dismissing the linked article, are denying this fact, are doing themselves and other women another harm. Awareness can be painful, yet should we not strive for it?

I fear debate and discussion have become frowned upon in this era. (I'm ranting on society in general now, not specifically GC spaces.) Bad ideas now equal a bad person to too many people. Too often, Individual personal development stage is disregarded, "you must be as knowledgeable as me, NOW" expectations are common. Tolerance and "live and let live" values are only applied to special people. Sad times. Edit add qualifiers. :)

forwardback · 2020-09-14T19:34:26+00:00

Sharpton is a liar, self-serving egomaniac, and a pawn. Old saying: "only the good die young."

forwardback · 2021-01-03T12:38:46+00:00

I second your concern. When the Dems said they supported the gender movement, I believed them. By rules and practices, legislation, or executive orders, we're going to see the changing of language and the loss of most (everything?) for which women fought so hard.

forwardback · 2020-11-09T01:41:14+00:00

This is what censorship looks like in 21st-century America. It isn’t the government sending police to your home. It’s Silicon Valley oligopolists implementing blackouts and appeasing social-justice mobs, while sending disfavored ideas down memory holes. And the forces of censorship are winning. Not only because their efforts to censor leave almost no trace. They are winning because, thus far, most Americans have been content to surrender virtually every liberty in exchange for the luxury of having products delivered to their door. Most would happily submit to the rule of Big Tech, so long as their Netflix isn’t disrupted.

At some point, it will cross each of our minds to question an item on the ever-growing list of unsayables. We will find ourselves smeared, or blocked, or the target of a woke campaign. And we will look for support from those with only a dim recollection of why they once cared about free speech. Those who will note tyranny’s advance with the pitiless smile of a low-level bureaucrat already anticipating the door-delivered Cherry Garcia and hours of uninterrupted streaming: “You brought this on yourself, didn’t you?”

Prophetic.

forwardback · 2020-11-04T21:58:57+00:00

terf wars? You mean turf wars, right?

forwardback · 2021-01-05T15:18:43+00:00

I also remember changes made in my lifetime, in the US. Young women should NOT take for granted!

I remember playing 6on6 women's basketball;

1970 five player full court game adopted for women's basketball

1972 The Supreme Court upholds the right to use birth control by unmarried couples. (SC ruled married couples had this right in 1965, 1960 was first FDA approval of BC pill)

1973 * college scholarships offered to female athletes for the first time

Jan. 22, 1973: In its landmark 7-2 Roe v. Wade decision, the U.S. Supreme Court declares that the Constitution protects a woman’s legal right to an abortion.

Also in 1973: The Supreme Court, in a separate ruling, bans sex-segregated "help wanted" advertising. (Yes, this was a thing! Help Wanted, Man and Help Wanted, Woman separate columns!)

1974 – Housing discrimination on the basis of sex and credit discrimination against women are outlawed by Congress. (I purchased my own house and property as a single woman thanks to this historic legislation!)

1975 – The Supreme Court denies states the right to exclude women from juries.

1981 – Sandra Day O'Connor becomes first woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

forwardback · 2020-12-29T09:19:10+00:00

Promoting the fallacy that words don't matter makes you part of of the problem. Are you also a science denier? Bjkkiuhh cfgyggf bbghihb nvdderdfbk njhgfsgi bhg hh jiiu kkji. (Is that the future of human communication you envision? Entire documents of random keystrokes? It's not mine, and I WILL fight you fight you over having clear and common language!)

I posses the capability to understand if someone got a mental illness that makes them upset about their sex organs that they might not like saying ovaries or sperm or any shit involving sex organs in their own videos.

As a scientist, I speak science, Not mental illness.

If you think it is MY responsibility to "intuitively know" or guess at someone's meaning, HAHAHAHAHAA, I haven't the interest, time, or obligation to do so. In fact, I submit, as an Influencer, the accountability for precise language falls upon BW. If he/she/they/mnopqrst desires to be heard or taken seriously, then, BW better get the terminology correct!

And, should you live so long as to understand the impact of ageism! You'll be shocked, m'dear! Hint: you've been lied to that the young know everything, or are the only capable persons in society. Hobbling my old bones out of here. /s. Could probably physically best you IRL. Not a joke; I am genetically gifted plus have a lifetime of independence and adaptation. And I WILL mention the proponderance of my peers who are raising their grandchildren due to meth-addicted or just incapable, parents.

Edit. Not spewing vitriol at you, though I realize you may perceive it as such. IRL, I am very blunt in my language. I don't hate, just get very frustrated with counterproductive beliefs and approaches. shrug and smile. Please, do consider points presented. I fear you are arguing against your own best interests.

Edit2. What is wrong with deletions or especially edits? Were you taught your original response was the one and only to which you must cling? Many people find nuances and details in their own considerations which may be beneficial to share. Or, in retrospection, someone may decide their comments to be inappropriate. Do you fault people for self awareness? I find "but you edit or delete" complaints nonsensical, especially as some are on mobile rather than desktop. (Bigot? LOL. Joking)

forwardback · 2020-10-31T18:30:52+00:00

OR, since gender *identity** *will be the protected class, not biological sex, religious extremists will state TW female-identifying people don't get pregnant, and so don't need abortions, so abortions should be banned, as they serve "no one". (While continuing to find abortions for their mistresses, as always.)

Never underestimate nefarious men...

Edit suggested correction made

forwardback · 2020-10-29T22:37:57+00:00

Convincing! :)

forwardback · 2020-10-24T15:03:41+00:00

I don't much care what consenting adults do sexually, but the proselytizing has to stop. Porn should have warnings; BDSM porn should absolutely be adult ONLY. Else, "the well is being poisoned". BDSM should never be set as mainstream - it's fringe, and making children and (idiot) adults think it's normal and expected behavior is perverse. Women have suffered and died, and men had walked scott-free for murder using the defense of "rough sex". The word "shameful" doesn't cover it.

forwardback · 2020-09-19T04:06:33+00:00

But, its SO fun to hear men squeal! ;)

forwardback · 2020-09-14T17:31:40+00:00

MRAs are a bane in society and to women's mental health and wellbeing.

forwardback · 2020-09-09T18:44:42+00:00

Especially bothers me about the word naming me: woman. Walk right off with that cis nonsense. Take my name, replace it, then forget about me using preferred pronouns or preferred name in return.

forwardback · 2020-09-09T02:38:23+00:00

And, this is one reason why they are so determined to transition kids - the awww factor - mind your speech and give up women's rights for the kids sake....

forwardback · 2021-01-08T22:59:15+00:00

Let's look at the legal advances for women Moon's loathed grey-hairs made in the US:

1963 The Equal Pay Act passes, requiring equal wages for women and men doing equal work. It is the first federal law prohibiting sex discrimination.

1964 The Federal Civil Rights Act passes, including Title VII, which guarantees equal opportunity in employment. Title VII is the statutory basis not only for equal opportunity and sex discrimination cases, but, as a subset of the latter, sexual harassment cases as well. The Civil Rights Act creates the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to enforce workplace equality.

1972 The Supreme Court upholds the right to use birth control by unmarried couples. (SC ruled married couples had this right in 1965, 1960 was first FDA approval of BC pill)

1973 * college scholarships offered to female athletes for the first time

1972 Title IX of the Education Amendments Act passes, guaranteeing equal access to academic and athletic resources regardless of sex

Jan. 22, 1973: In its landmark 7-2 Roe v. Wade decision, the U.S. Supreme Court declares that the Constitution protects a woman’s legal right to an abortion. Also in 1973: The Supreme Court, in a separate ruling, bans sex-segregated "help wanted" advertising. (Yes, this was a thing! Help Wanted, Man and Help Wanted, Woman separate columns!)

1974 – Housing discrimination on the basis of sex and credit discrimination against women are outlawed by Congress. (I purchased my own house and property as a single woman thanks to this historic legislation!) 1974 The first shelter in the U.S. for battered women opens in St. Paul, Minnesota. By the mid-1990's, there are over 1,000 such shelters nationwide, but with very limited bedspace and funding. Facilities located in large cities report that they may have to turn away as many as 70% of the women who seek temporary respite from violence in their own homes.

1975 – The Supreme Court denies states the right to exclude women from juries.

1978 The Pregnancy Discrimination Act becomes federal law, recognizing that discrimination on the basis of pregnancy is discrimination on the basis of sex. The PDA guarantees pregnant women who are capable of working the right to do so, identical to employees with other, but similar, medical conditions. The Act also mandates that employers provide the same benefits to women at any stage of pregnancy, delivery, or recovery from delivery when they are medically unable to work as to all other employees with temporarily disabling conditions. It also forbids workplace discrimination against women based on the mere possibility of pregnancy.

1986 The U.S. Supreme Court holds in Meritor Savings Bank v. Vinson that sexual harassment creating a hostile or abusive work environment, even without economic loss for the person being harassed, is in violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

1993 The Family & Medical Leave Act becomes law, based on the research and policy initiatives prepared by the Women's Law and Public Policy Fellowship class of 1985-86.

And let's not mention the social changes, like girls and women wearing slacks or jeans in school or out in public or at work, as one example (1970s). Or five player full court basketball rather than the 6on6 version I grew up with. Little things you take for granted.

But screw them old broads, right? Grey-haired Radfems, who needs em, huh?

forwardback · 2020-09-16T15:29:18+00:00

Such a well written and reasonable description, and explanation, of restricted subs! Too bad men, such as the adamant ones on this post, still won't get it, or even care. Sigh.

forwardback · 2020-12-26T06:43:00+00:00

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/amanpour-and-company/video/december-25-2020-qpxnyz/

BJK, who helped found the WTA, has some odd blind spot concerning men's tendency to colonize and diminish women. Note, Andy Murray stating some men would rather NOT see a raise at all, than have a raise equally for the sexes! Anyone see as much as a flicker on BJK's face? My impression is BJK is for herself first, then tennis. Women? (Nothing inherently wrong with that stance, if true, but people should be cautious.)

It was only the earliest of 1970s that elite women tennis players began to see prizes > 20% of men's.

https://www.wtatennis.com/about

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/02/1970-womens-tour-begins/54184/

From the PBS transcript: (Amanpour to Andy Murray, his response)

On that cha-ching note, Andy Murray, certainly some in the male world in men's tennis are concerned that they wouldn't get as maybe as much cha-ching, so to speak.

Do you see any struggle from other men in your sport to try to get this done?

And except 'cause you want to see it done.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely.

There's some some potential for that.

I mean, I've had some times conversations in the past, when there's been prize money increases within the sport where let's say the fresh round losers check has gone from the man that went from like 8,000 to $10,000.

And the women's went from $6,000 to $10,000.

And I spoke to some of the male players about that who were unhappy because the prize money was equal.

And I said, 'Well, would you rather, 'there was no increase at all?'

And, they said to me, 'Yeah, actually.'

And I was like, 'Well, that's some of the sort 'of the mentalities that you're working with 'in these discussions 'where someone would actually rather make less money 'just so they're not an on an equal footing 'with some of the female players.'

So there will be some challenges.

But look, I think, when you have, obviously a lot of the top male players now starting to discuss it and talk about it, that's definitely very promising.

But I think it's really important, I think, in these negotiations that when it comes to the sort of key decision makers right now in tennis, pretty much all of them are men.

And I think that when these discussions happen, it's quite important not just to see this merger through like a man's eyes and to bring more women into the decision making positions, so that everybody's voice gets heard and everybody gets protected in these discussions.

The dude is more sensitive to women's issues than BJK.

forwardback · 2020-10-31T18:44:50+00:00

Wider issues concerning transgender equality and current legislation:

Why is the number of people applying for GRCs so low compared to the number of people identifying as transgender?

Hmmmm..... /s

forwardback · 2020-09-22T05:31:48+00:00

Much scrolling to find: Rejoice, and Relax.

Imagine women owning the night, heaven!

Gotta admit I'd search out the "how" of it, hopefully to repeat...

forwardback · 2021-01-03T12:13:34+00:00

In the coal mine, the canary is laying on the bottom of its cage. You remind me of the mine owners, insisting conditions are still safe for birds and miners. Nothing to see here, back to work.

forwardback · 2020-10-31T04:22:17+00:00

Eh, I see it as men's impotent reaction to women's (righteous) disdain of mens interests [shit/fart jokes=funny NOT, 4+ hour sports viewing=important RATHER LEARN OR DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE, etc] Just need enough experience, a/o be clued in on it, to scoff at men's uselessness.

Key: ALL CAPS means women's voice

Edit: ah, lest I forget the be-all-and-end-all of men's interest: the almighty penis HAHAHAHAHAA

forwardback · 2020-09-17T23:36:02+00:00

Whoops, one response says they've been moved to the "woman's section". No indication of "transition" allowed. Let's rewrite history, wheeeee. /s

forwardback · 2021-01-07T10:21:07+00:00

I still haven't figured out how these young women believe they'll retain women's right to abortion when women are no longer legally considered as a separate (sex) class. People (penis-havers) will be the ultimate arbiters of if, who, and when an abortion may be performed. And, more likely than not, it will be to the mans advantage. I fear women will lose their voices, and likely their own agency, in such personal matters. Cause women's voices have been dismissed, and outright banned, in many instances, especially this GC issue. But, I've had to listen to misogynistic declarations for decades. It's MRA, IMO.

Edit. Yeah I know sex is partially defined as pregnancy in the Act, but is abortion addressed? What is not specified is open to interpretation. Wouldn't a male "mother" also have a say in pregnancy termination? Or retention? I bet that'd be a lobbying point next.

forwardback · 2021-01-02T11:24:59+00:00

Thank you for sharing your experience.

forwardback · 2020-12-29T08:29:27+00:00

Amazing how the really important data, like this, or proving male violence (% of rapes, murders, assaults by XYs), is not being collected or made easily accessible...

forwardback · 2020-12-26T07:46:17+00:00

Vital information for youth to have. Thanks.

forwardback · 2020-10-31T18:03:15+00:00

“(4) SEX.—The term ‘sex’ includes— “(A) a sex stereotype; “(B) pregnancy, childbirth, or a related medical condition; “(C) sexual orientation or gender identity; and “(D) sex characteristics, including intersex traits. “(5) SEXUAL ORIENTATION.—The term ‘sexual orientation’ means homosexuality, heterosexuality, or bisexuality. “(b) Rules.—In a covered title referred to in subsection (a)— “(1) (with respect to sex) pregnancy, childbirth, or a related medical condition shall not receive less favorable treatment than other physical conditions; and “(2) (with respect to gender identity) an individual shall not be denied access to a shared facility, including a restroom, a locker room, and a dressing room, that is in accordance with the individual's gender identity.”; and https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5/text

I find the given "definition" of "sex" to be particularly concerning. Sex is a stereotype or medical condition? That won't cause women problems in future? [edit: is this not replacing biological sex with gender feels? Removing legal, and soon social, recourses from women ?!]

Surprisingly, "sexual orientation" is stated as the three commonly accepted, not bastardized.

forwardback · 2020-10-28T20:31:23+00:00

Illinois. Of course. Why doesn't this surprise me? (I know the region well). Thank you for the information; details were revolting.

forwardback · 2020-09-14T18:53:55+00:00

From a (?) comment:

The Morning Star cartoon was a needlessly provocative way of framing a rational concern.

Art! Used to be art had some sense to it. (Supporters of idiot art were mocked by the masses as much as the BS supposed-art was). Stand up Comedy, film, presentation, music, theater, art, Boundaries were pushed. Political cartoons are fascinating history! Search it! This "it's just too much" snowflake rhetoric is itself too much, IMO.

forwardback · 2021-01-08T22:22:23+00:00

Glad to hear you're pro- calling out women for their BS. I'm so sick of your vehement ageism. You apparently have no respect for those women who actually made advancements, before you. Very few 2nd wave feminists were what you describe. If you think the erasure of women's words and safe places is "small fish", well, your level of ignorance and ingratitude is astounding.

forwardback · 2020-12-29T12:19:43+00:00

Bwhahahaha. 15 years after a Hollywood movie clocked AGPs for what they truly are, this perv spews word-salad against it.

A pervert is a pervert is a pervert.

(Movie came out in 1991. It was correct about AGPs! If you find or have a copy of this movie, keep it! Future generations may thank you for saving it! Like North Korea hungers for news other than state controlled media)

Aside: "TW are women", but TW aren't held to submissive or self censorship expectations."... ???!!! Then they ain't women, is they??!!??!! Still have male privilege. Fn whackadoodle sexual perverts.

forwardback · 2020-12-29T11:31:58+00:00

Just another formerly scientific journal commandeered by the trans cult

Chimerism in humans has been acknowledged since the mid-twentieth century. Doesn't mean there exists more than two sexes in Homo sapiens sapiens. https://theattic.jezebel.com/one-person-two-sets-of-dna-the-strange-case-of-the-hu-1689290862 https://www.insider.com/what-is-a-human-chimera-and-how-does-it-happen-2017-11

Ffs. Activists rewriting history and biology.

forwardback · 2020-12-10T02:54:38+00:00

Yep. NOW was commandeered by the Trans faction quite a while ago. Most long established women's organizations have been stolen; a woman must be very vigilant in vetting "women's" organizations or spaces nowadays. Don't assume!

FYI. Majority of ACLU is now anti-women/pro-transwomen

forwardback · 2020-08-23T03:28:51+00:00

Wide open on the child issue, isn't he?

forwardback · 2021-01-10T22:04:34+00:00

But the (I submit) probable impact, of considering TWAW, would be OVER representation of TW, and UNDER representation of women. Absolutely impact the 50%. So much for "fairness". Net win: Men.

forwardback · 2021-01-09T11:13:09+00:00

Gee, wonder what influence daddy dearest had on the kid!

NB? So why wouldn't that person be put into a sex segregated ward? Not a female by sex OR self ID, right? Besides, putting a proven and confessed woman killer in a woman's or non-segregated ward, would be a criminal act in itself, IMO.

Daddy's looking for a $$$$ payout? Dangerous, misogynistic man himself, I'd wager.

forwardback · 2021-01-09T09:51:26+00:00

Your tells are adding up

Go suck the dick you love so much

forwardback · 2020-12-30T07:44:48+00:00

Actually, in the US, the NASDAQ has filed a proposal with the Securities and Exchange Commission to require "self ID" minority's representation on company's boards. This includes racial self-ID.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/nasdaq-files-sec-proposal-to-advance-boardroom-diversity-2020-12-01

forwardback · 2020-12-20T19:27:05+00:00

"Self-identified". Self-identified racial minoritys, self-identified women, self-identified any and all categories. So what's the real point of this?

forwardback · 2020-11-11T15:02:41+00:00

Lynn Murray said:

By stating that disability is grounds for termination, section 1(1)(d) of the Abortion Act, promotes inequality. It would be totally condemned if a country’s abortion laws singled out babies on the ground of gender or skin colour, but because it’s a disability...

And how exactly is gender to be determined in a fetus in this PC society?

forwardback · 2020-11-07T18:43:33+00:00

Don't know much about rural areas in red states in the US, do you? Broadcasts, both radio and television, usually are emitted from/near a city, and service a region/area. Farmsteads don't get their own super-special targeted ad campaigns. Search it.

And, nice trying to blame me for your own "incomplete" post. Really appreciate the name calling. /s Truth's a bitch, ain't it? Hahahahahaa

Edit. https://www.rabbitears.info/searchmap.php

forwardback · 2020-11-07T17:55:20+00:00

I really wonder if they'd run these campaigns in rural Nebraska or Iowa with many white people who vote primarily Republican? PROBABLY NOT!!!

Yes, yes they do run "Vote" campaign in red states. Have done so, hmm, at least for forty years.

forwardback · 2020-11-07T03:04:51+00:00

Spot on!

forwardback · 2020-10-01T14:31:09+00:00

Title from ovarit post. Too good not to share!

forwardback · 2020-09-20T05:26:29+00:00

Obama paved the way for black transwomen to utilize women's shelters... (I'd put /s, but it's fact, not really sarcasm, sadly.)

forwardback · 2020-09-19T18:03:48+00:00

Fuck NPR and their transgender agenda! Sex! It was SEX based discrimination! Women may well be the big losers now this great woman has passed.

The real Ginsburg made this point in her majority opinion in United States v. Virginia, which ordered Virginia Military Institute, the state’s all-male military school, to become coed. There, she wrote that “[p]hysical differences between men and women … are enduring,” and, quoting Ballard v. United States, added, “[t]he two sexes are not fungible.”

Also, that same case:

Ginsburg wrote that the Virginia Military Institute “would undoubtedly require alterations necessary to afford members of each sex privacy from the other sex in living arrangements.”

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/why-ginsburg-fought-discrimination-basis-sex-not-gender-identity/

This case was mid 90s, so she was aware of transsexuals.

Edit last sentence.

forwardback · 2020-09-19T04:09:35+00:00

Why not, as long as men are allowed in both? Really, what would be the difference?

forwardback · 2020-09-14T17:17:19+00:00

Vanilla done right: Old enough to remember when Sting lauded Tantric sex.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2806361/Seven-hours-includes-movie-dinner-Sting-clarifies-infamous-comments-tantric-sex-Trudie-Styler-twenty-four-years-on.html

More about: https://www.sheknows.com/health-and-wellness/articles/979469/what-is-tantric-sex/ Edit links

forwardback · 2020-08-31T20:12:32+00:00

Nope. In my case, I get riled up when women are seemingly proponents of gun confiscation. Firearms are the great equalizer against men's strength and insanity. And most men still presume a woman wouldn't pull the trigger. ;) Second amendment rights for All law-abiding US citizens! Edit: it's about what's LEGAL

forwardback · 2021-01-01T05:09:47+00:00

Pervert as the term all day, everyday! The "male" has always been implied! ;)

forwardback · 2020-12-29T13:38:44+00:00

You are not being blunt you are being belittling because you are incapable of understanding where i'm coming from.

Then, perhaps you might have clarified better your position and its advantages? How courteous of you to define my capabilities for me.

I get that that happens, in fact it happens a lot. You are not spewing vitriol at me but you call me a science denier, part of the problem and make more assumptions.

No. I asked : "Are you also a science denier?"

Your might want to look up what vitriol means.

I did look it up just now to verify my usage of the word vitriol; from Cambridge dictionary:

violent hate and anger expressed through severe criticism:

So many people on social media assume severe criticism to be "hate speech" nowadays, I did not wish to presume whether or not you were one of those persons. Geez, can't even try to be nice to some people by naming one's own frustrations.

Since I don't speak human I'll make note to not engage with you in the future. Peace out.

forwardback · 2020-12-29T11:36:32+00:00

Old, widowed, or divorced women choose to be single. Cause or effect? Doesn't matter! As a rule, Men are dangerous parasites.

forwardback · 2020-12-23T11:40:03+00:00

Well, gee wiz, thanks for calling me "no one"! LOL. I came here from the spring Radfem banning. This is my alt account. Not certain whether I was hacked here on Saidit PPF, or if I just noticed it while I was here, but my primary account is now abandoned.

I agree that Trans Inc is too great a threat to women's protections and safety for women to ignore, but I also keep my fingers crossed for PPF on Reddxy as a place more women can learn the truth about 3rd wave "feminism" - that it caters to men. Gotta start somewhere.

Pinkpillfeminism.com may be to your liking. It also has small numbers, but the more Radfem sites, the better our likelihood of catching the attention of women who are ready to break the chains and see the reality.

forwardback · 2020-12-23T10:26:28+00:00

Yea, I'd run across this whackadoodle's missives before. Clearly, I agree with others who are inclined to state "Amy" needs professional help.

Though, as an aside, one more case where women are quickly waved off, while similarly unbalanced males continue to be applauded and platformed by the masses.

Rather than closing the asylums and prioritizing the "rights" of persons who are {both mentally unbalanced and dangerous to others} over the rights of potential/eventual victims, the mental health system/business should have been addressed. (I'm not saying ALL mentally afflicted persons are dangerous - I am saying it was against the public interest to require death(s) or injuries at the hands of dangerous persons to lock them away from innocents.)

forwardback · 2020-12-03T09:22:58+00:00

Agreed. 1981, MTV started. Conceptual videos, story-telling, or featured the band. (Admittedly, sexism frequent). Early '90s, the slide down the slope (rap influence) gained speed. I remember Sir Mix-a-lot's "Baby Got Back" - catchy tune that broke out of rap, into the general, section of MTV, for example, and the "dam was broke."

Edit. US society. https://www.theodysseyonline.com/medias-effects-sexual-identity

forwardback · 2020-11-24T17:49:37+00:00

The brashness of recent moves by MRAs (of all types) reveal these attacks on women won't be fading away, won't be ending any time soon.

Women before us fought hard to gain us the rights to have the choice to live independently from men, from voting rights, independent access to financial/banking services, property and wealth rights, and reproductive choices, etc. All coming at risk.

And men aren't just promoting these threats amongst themselves over beers - they've commandeered political organizations (including those created by and for women) in order to remove women's voices, our own words and political impact.

These men who insist on controlling women won't stop, all women are at risk.

forwardback · 2021-01-15T13:19:01+00:00

Submitted via PM by a male

[–]from [redacted] sent 2 days ago Résumés by female applicants are less likely to be accepted & are offered less pay than the IDENTICAL ones by males: http://www.yalescientific.org/2013/02/john-vs-jennifer-a-battle-of-the-sexes/ Princeton, identical applications rated more favourable when attributed to a male student: http://www.pnas.org/content/109/41/16474.abstract Blind auditions held by orchestras result in increased acceptance of female, musician applicants: http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/01/0212/7b.shtml The Glass Escalator: Hidden Advantages for Men in the “Female” Professions http://socpro.oxfordjournals.org/content/39/3/253.abstract STEM hiring practices: https://www.pnas.org/content/111/28/10107.full https://www.pnas.org/content/111/12/4403.full https://www.pnas.org/content/109/41/16474.short https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-019-01052-w https://www.pnas.org/content/112/43/13201.short https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1368430217722035 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12147-015-9143-4 clothing: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1985-23948-001 secondary source on pay in STEM https://www.nature.com/news/inequality-quantified-mind-the-gender-gap-1.12550 Socialisation: Gender pay gap pocket-money: http://www.lloydsbankinggroup.com/Media/Press-Releases/2015/halifax/childrens-pocket-money-falls-for-the-second-year-in-a-row/ Gender Bias in Mothers' Expectations about Infant Crawling http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022096500925979 Parents Explain More Often to Boys Than to Girls During Shared Scientific Thinking http://pss.sagepub.com/content/12/3/258.short The eye of the beholder: Parents' views on sex of newborns. http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/ort/44/4/512/ Girls lose faith in their own talents by the age of six (changes take place within 1 year) really smart vs. working really hard: http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38717926 Women asking for a raise, damned if you do, damned if you don’t: http://www.cnbc.com/2013/11/27/for-women-asking-for-a-raise-is-damned-if-you-do-or-dont.html Jennifer Lawrence paid less than male co-stars: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/13/jennifer-lawrence-hollywood-gender-pay-gap Scarlet Johanson highest grossing actor, but not highest paid: http://movies.ndtv.com/hollywood/scarlett-johansson-on-pay-disparity-im-the-top-grossing-actor-but-not-the-highest-paid-1657439 Gender pay gap, Guardian articles: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/15/valued-caring-gender-pay-gap-women http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/mar/07/gender-pay-gap-uk-women-earn-300000-less-men-lifetime 1 in 5 men have committed Intimate partner violence to their present partner: http://www.jabfm.org/content/27/5/661 96% prosecuted & found guilty were male 86% of victims of violent acts by a significant other were female https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvs03.pdf 77% of people injured by an intimate partner were female.1 https://ncadv.org/statistics ; https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf 69% experience severe intimate partner physical violence https://ncadv.org/statistics 86% of domestic violence incidents resulting in physical injury are perpetrated by men: https://www.mediaed.org/transcripts/Tough-Guise-2-Transcript.pdf 72% of intimate partner victimizations resulting in serious physical injury were female, perpetrated by male: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ipvav9311.pdf tough guise 1 in 4 men will abuse their partner Males perpetrate 95% of all serious domestic violence (all the broken bones & dead bodies belong to women) Research reviews have concluded that the majority of women's physical violence against (intimate partner/domestic violence) men is in response to being abused by those men: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2968709/ 77% of all domestic homicide victims are female: According to the Supplementary Homicide Reports of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program in 2005, 1,181 females and 329 males were killed by their intimate partners. https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/222320.pdf In the cases of male homicide victims, usually the victim was an abuser: http://ncdsv.org/images/If%20I%20had%20one%20more%20day_Fatality%20Review_2006.pdf Similarly, male victims of domestic violence homicides are much more likely than female victims to have been identified previously as abusers of their eventual killers (https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/225722.pdf): https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=130043 general domestic homicide: https://vawnet.org/sc/scope-problem-intimate-partner-homicide-statistics In shootings involving domestic or family violence, children made up more than 40 percent of those killed. Between 1982-2020,113 mass shootings have been carried out in the US by male shooters. By contrast, only 3 mass shootings (defined by the source as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed) have been carried out by women: https://www.statista.com/statistics/476445/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-gender/ Stalking Further, research suggests a close association between stalking and femicide. One study, for example, found more than half, 54%, of female intimate partner murder victims had reported stalking to police prior to their murders by the stalkers https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/222320.pdf Marital rape isn't taken seriously unless the rapist has a history of violent offences: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022831421093 The majority of both victims & perpetrators of marital rape don't recognise actual instances of the crime as rape. That's the very definition of rape culture. The Divorce Gap There’s a common perception that women siphon off the wealth of their exes and go on to live in comfort. It’s wrong. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/04/the-divorce-gap/480333/ Young females demographic most vulnerable to online harassment: http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/10/22/part-1-experiencing-online-harassment/ Female joggers face sexist harassment: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10384912/How-female-joggers-are-dealing-with-sexist-hecklers.html Majority of self-harm Women who attempt suicide do so at 3x the rate men do: https://save.org/about-suicide/suicide-facts/ The incidence of bulimia in 10-39 year old women TRIPLED between 1988 and 1993 (Hoek& van Hoeken, 2003). The average BMI of Miss America winners has decreased from around 22 in the 1920s to 16.9 in the 2000s. The World Health Organization classifies a normal BMI as falling between 18.5 and 24.9 (Martin, 2010) Cases of vaginoplasties (cosmetic surgical reduction of the labia) of teenage girls in the US almost doubled between the years 2014 & 2015, according to The American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery Heart attack symptoms (7x more likely to be misdiagnosed than men, heart disease kills more women than men, only 17% of cardiologists know that) & ADHD manifests themselves differently in women than men. Overall, 70 per cent of victims of trafficking in persons are females https://www.statista.com/statistics/300796/percentage-of-trafficking-victims-worldwide-by-gender-and-age/ Androcentrism, including: women suffer higher mortality rates in automobile accidents https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/23/truth-world-built-for-men-car-crashes Patriarchy can be measured scientifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_of_domination If in literal patriarchies where men are unequivocally the social majority & have social privilege & women are the social minority, like in Saudi Barbaria, men are still the majority of successful suicides, work place deaths, the draft, circumcision etc. so none of that copypasta MRAs have been parroting for decades is the least bit relevant. Women’s workplace is the home most of the time, but their deaths aren’t regarded as workplace deaths. The health cost of prostitution https://prostitutionresearch.com/the-physical-damage-in-prostitution-report-by-a-gynaecologist-from-street-work/ Mothers are better parents: Christmas gift giving: https://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/07363760010349920 https://academic.oup.com/jcr/article-abstract/17/3/333/1822554 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-954X.1987.tb00007.x fathers are less involved the more involved mothers are, while less outside the home: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/663354 single-mother + grandparent > nuclear family: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1353/dem.2002.0016 When a mother is imprisoned, frequently the father does not continue to care for his children, resulting in large numbers of children being institutionalized UNODC handbook for prison managers and policymakers on women and imprisonment Vienna: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime; 2008

forwardback · 2021-01-13T14:55:11+00:00

Fuck off, MRA shill!! It's called effort. Men don't value what they get for free. Pre screening males is common sense, not doing so is naivety or absolute stupidity. You advocating women act stupidly/against their own self interests?

You going to answer me this time? I'm still waiting on my other question of you...

forwardback · 2021-01-13T13:06:27+00:00

And yet I wonder how far the people who parrot this phrase (TWAW) with such conviction are prepared to accept the consequences. One easy way to assess this is to pose the question devised by Helen Staniland: “Do you believe that male-sexed people should have the right to undress and shower in a communal changing room with teenage girls?”

Curiously, people who become very energised about the right of male-sexed people to use female toilets don’t like this question very much and try to avoid answering it. But it gets to the heart of the issue about single-sex spaces: do we believe a man is a woman because he says he is? Or is there something more fundamental about what makes a woman a woman?

Touché Quick tool for the arsenal. (additional formatting my own)

Or, as MarkTwainiac has so rightfully pointed out, disabled, elderly, or coma/unconscious state-women: Women or their Families who specify "female only attendants" are being overruled by this bullocks. (It isn't just about Buffy the teenager!)

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