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[–]Zuri 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well transwomen are sexist, mentally ill men. They can't be women no matter how many hormones or surgeries they take. And they seriously look creepy and hideous af. I can't believe the medical community are enabling their sexist delusions, and we're supposed to play make-believe with them to make them feel better. It's so absurd.

[–]_Moon_ 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

"Transphobia" is justified because transgenderism is a reactionary, misogynistic, and lesbopobic rape culture ideology in a shiny glitter disguise.

It also is the last stand of reality. Transgenderism is the ruling class FORCING you to lie. How fucked up is that. You are FORCED to lie and call a spade a girl.

The real issue with places like Ovarit and all other "gender critical" places is that most of these women oppose transgenderism for all the wrong reasons. We're just having this situation now that everyone who doesn't believe in "female penises" calls themselves "gender critical" although they often oppose it on conservative grounds and/or mixed with some BS about "unmasculine" men. These places always were full of married, conservative boymom housewives loving "masculine" and hating these "unmasculine" men.

Also, neither PPF nor BPF were even that focused on transgenderism. It didn't even come up that often. But a place like Ovarit is literally 99% screenshots from Twitter and Reddit and stuff about transsexuals. Women have other and larger fish to try. It's a total red flag if a "feminist" space is literally 99% just about transsexuals. I'm pretty sure a sub like PPF or BPF would not only be met with a lot of hostility from "gender critical" boymom conservatives - but also eventually banned.

Because the other main group frequenting these places are these gray-haired old boomer hippie Radfems who believe that everything is just about muh socialization, nurture, culture and that referring to human nature to explain human behavior is reactionary. In a way, transgenderism is just peak leftism, anyway. It's just the most radical conclusion of this worldview that states that humans are born as blank slates.

And calling out women for their BS and holding them responsible is something neither liberal nor radical feminism is willing to do. It's all just a pity party for women to hug each other. But if you call out women for their BS it's "toxic" and if you suggest that they should do anything other than just whine it's "victim blaming" because they have been "socialized" to be so stupid.

[–]forwardback 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Glad to hear you're pro- calling out women for their BS. I'm so sick of your vehement ageism. You apparently have no respect for those women who actually made advancements, before you. Very few 2nd wave feminists were what you describe. If you think the erasure of women's words and safe places is "small fish", well, your level of ignorance and ingratitude is astounding.

[–]forwardback 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Let's look at the legal advances for women Moon's loathed grey-hairs made in the US:

1963 The Equal Pay Act passes, requiring equal wages for women and men doing equal work. It is the first federal law prohibiting sex discrimination.

1964 The Federal Civil Rights Act passes, including Title VII, which guarantees equal opportunity in employment. Title VII is the statutory basis not only for equal opportunity and sex discrimination cases, but, as a subset of the latter, sexual harassment cases as well. The Civil Rights Act creates the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to enforce workplace equality.

1972 The Supreme Court upholds the right to use birth control by unmarried couples. (SC ruled married couples had this right in 1965, 1960 was first FDA approval of BC pill)

1973 * college scholarships offered to female athletes for the first time

1972 Title IX of the Education Amendments Act passes, guaranteeing equal access to academic and athletic resources regardless of sex

Jan. 22, 1973: In its landmark 7-2 Roe v. Wade decision, the U.S. Supreme Court declares that the Constitution protects a woman’s legal right to an abortion. Also in 1973: The Supreme Court, in a separate ruling, bans sex-segregated "help wanted" advertising. (Yes, this was a thing! Help Wanted, Man and Help Wanted, Woman separate columns!)

1974 – Housing discrimination on the basis of sex and credit discrimination against women are outlawed by Congress. (I purchased my own house and property as a single woman thanks to this historic legislation!) 1974 The first shelter in the U.S. for battered women opens in St. Paul, Minnesota. By the mid-1990's, there are over 1,000 such shelters nationwide, but with very limited bedspace and funding. Facilities located in large cities report that they may have to turn away as many as 70% of the women who seek temporary respite from violence in their own homes.

1975 – The Supreme Court denies states the right to exclude women from juries.

1978 The Pregnancy Discrimination Act becomes federal law, recognizing that discrimination on the basis of pregnancy is discrimination on the basis of sex. The PDA guarantees pregnant women who are capable of working the right to do so, identical to employees with other, but similar, medical conditions. The Act also mandates that employers provide the same benefits to women at any stage of pregnancy, delivery, or recovery from delivery when they are medically unable to work as to all other employees with temporarily disabling conditions. It also forbids workplace discrimination against women based on the mere possibility of pregnancy.

1986 The U.S. Supreme Court holds in Meritor Savings Bank v. Vinson that sexual harassment creating a hostile or abusive work environment, even without economic loss for the person being harassed, is in violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

1993 The Family & Medical Leave Act becomes law, based on the research and policy initiatives prepared by the Women's Law and Public Policy Fellowship class of 1985-86.

And let's not mention the social changes, like girls and women wearing slacks or jeans in school or out in public or at work, as one example (1970s). Or five player full court basketball rather than the 6on6 version I grew up with. Little things you take for granted.

But screw them old broads, right? Grey-haired Radfems, who needs em, huh?

[–]ughsocializing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

As important as it is, I get tired of all the trans stuff on Ovarit too, but it makes sense that they talk about it so much. Liberal feminism has the majority, and with their stronger influence they're the ones “leading” feminism so to speak, so the rest of the feminists/gender crits who don't fit in are downstream from them. :/

[–]bluetinfoilhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is the right reason to oppose transgenderism.

[–]forwardback 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I clicked over there and read the rules. Which ones do you disagree with?

[–]forwardback 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This sub still has Radfems on it - it is not subject to takeover yet. Why don't you answer my question- what is your issue with Ovarit's rules?