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[–]forwardback 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My father's a raging misogynist. Keeping my mouth shut and my eyes and ears open over the years, enabled me to observe the insecurity, violence, and lack of intellectual depth and empathy of the majority of men, and the strength, proactive tactical thinking, and endurance, of the majority of women. Seems common sense to me to treat humans as humans, adjusting according to the individual, not the group. I'm a scientist (observer, thanks to dad), so I don't buy into equality, but I do envision respect, and the end of patriarchy. My mother is an extraordinarily intelligent woman who excels at her work and assessing situations, motives, politics. Can't express enough gratitude and awe for her. I learned from her to speak up, speak out, and speak back. Also, she counseled that opinions of others (who may well be idiots) should matter less to me than whether I am able to live with myself. I'm not a Marxist. Politically, I'm an independent. I've lived on my own since college graduation, had my tubes tied at 25, bought my own house at 27. Tried marriage for 4 years at age 34, but found I'd bought into a liar and thief. I've lived alone longer than I've lived with other people, including childhood. As appropriate, I try to prompt women to think past the obvious and the expected. I challenge men when pushed too far. In my area, men, up until the last decade, were rocked back on their heels by an unflinching assertive woman who'd get up in their face. I've been watching the diminishing of women and their position in society over the years and I fear for women in the near future. Elements are coming together to thrust women back to non-personhood. This is not a drill!

[–]Immortallogic[S] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

With regards to my journey - I did not grow up in a particularly feminist household so to speak, it was more traditional, but it was always loving from both parents, and my mom always knew how to fix things haha. My parents were somewhat strict with me as a kid, which I now realize was actually an advantage because I did not really date or hang out too much 'on the corner' etc and I rather spent that time with family/friends or in my own. I dated very little in my twenties which I think is a huge contributing factor to my current mindset. I've always been independent and do not like to rely on people, something that has exacerbated by beliefs and lifestyle throughout my twenties.

My feminism means the right for women to choose, but to have the options available them and the full picture in order to do so. It's quite saddening to see many western women WANT to rely on men when we have many opportunities these days not to. But it is their right to choose, so I respect it. I also have the utmost resort for mothers, although I do not want children. I believe that women should stick up for each other, and childfree women should stick up for mothers too, because being a mother is a whole nother ballgame. I mainly care about less privileged women around the world who do not have the options not to marry/have kids/go to school.

My attitude towards men - I do not have a blanket belief that all are terrible people. I've known a few good ones including family members and friends. However, I believe and accept that because of a combination of biology and socialization, women need to be weary of them and always need to be assertive, etc, in order to not be pushed around by them, and to not ever rely on a man. I also don't believe that having kids with one will get a woman anywhere. Until men can get pregnant or artificial wombs are a thing, pregnancy/birth is just another spoke in the liberation of women.

A big personal experience that led me to stop believing in socialization and all the stereotypes about girls and women was chopping most of my hair off and not worrying about gender roles/looking feminine (but rather just looking however I wanted), and traveling solo. I realized that as women were always taught to be afraid, to reply on others (especially men) to do things. I was cautious and smart, and I had an amazing six month solo trip where I learned to rely on myself, be independent, be confident, etc. I believe that was my first foray into having a more feminist mindset.

I want other women to learn that they absolutely 100% can rely on themselves, that they can be independent and do not need a guy to hold them down. I want more women to take chances and be unapologetic about it, and to be courageous to do the things they want to. I realize this is extremely priveleged, and many girls around the world can't do that because of circumstances etc. For those girls, I want to fight for them to have such opportunities and I'm working towards a career to do that.

I think it's really important for young girls to do sports, to learn teamwork and sisterhood with other girls. I think it's very important for them to have the space to take chances and fall down and get hurt sometimes so they can learn strength, and for parents to encourage independence from girls. I also think it's incredibly important to stop spending too much time/money/resources and energy on things that focus only on looks like makeup/nails/heels/purses etc that are used to distract girls from spendig their teen years following their passions (or exploring them) and doing things that will help them find success later on.

I could go on and on and this is kind of all over the place so I apologize, but I'm looking forward to hear insights from all of you!

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

what does your version of feminism look like?

Not sure I qualify as a full radical feminist, but I'm not a liberal choice feminist. My ideal feminism would be absolute equality between men and women and the abolition of gender.

any aspects you don't agree with?

With radical feminism, probably the economic stuff. I grew up in a conservative environment and would say I lean more moderate/conservative on that and some other social issues.

did you grow up in a feminist household? a traditional one? a mix?

No, feminism wasn't talked about in my house growing up. It was a pretty traditional household, but not overly conservative. My mom and dad divided their roles along gender lines, but my dad also treated my mom with the utmost respect and equality. I was taught that boys and girls were equal, even though I later learned the outside world didn't think so. "Feminism" the label wasn't really supported in the conservative town I was in. I didn't know much about actual feminism until I started going online in college and reading more about it.

what personal experiences led you to have the beliefs you have?

Growing up as a gender nonconforming child who was extremely male identified. I knew I wasn't a boy and could never be a man, but I couldn't stop wanting to be. I didn't feel like a woman and was completely alienated from my femaleness. I think finding radical feminism stemmed from searching for a group where I could fit in. I flirted with trans labels briefly, but luckily discovered radical feminism before I got too far into that. That was the only thing that gave me peace. Learning about gender critical and gender abolitionist thought helped. It was good to know that plenty of women didn't agree with the "fun" feminism that I could see was all about kowtowing to men and celebrating negative stereotypes.

how has it changed you and how you act on an everyday basis/your relationships? how does it empower you? how do you help empower other women/how do you want to help other women?

First and foremost, it's given me peace so I can stop looking for labels. It's helped me to realize that I'm not crazy, that liberal feminism is not something everyone agrees with. I still live my life the same way. I'm not much of an activist. I'm more about sharing my thoughts online and hoping they make an impact on someone. especially other gender nonconforming girls and young women, who I fear are being betrayed by liberal feminism even more than conforming girls are.

[–]green_olive 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I always disliked boys and avoided them because I noticed they were the cruelest bullies in school. I tried to brush it aside and assumed it was just immaturity and kept a good attitude towards adult men. I was a naive liberal feminist who learned from Tumblr as a teenager that trans people are severely mentally ill people who need compassion and makeup is empowering and other such libfem things.

It started at age 18 with stumbling upon a gender critical video showing examples of TIMs who were arrested for sex crimes and placed in women's prison. Something instantly felt off and I explored further into gender critical theory which also helped me get started on radfem/PPF theory. I also started noticing forums filled with misogyny like 4chan and Reddit, and there was also a now-defunct forum I knew (before r/PPF was made) where women would share their reasons why they hated men and stories of their absolutely horrible experiences with them. After reading all of that I felt like a rug was pulled under my feet in regards my understanding of reality. I falsely assumed as a sheltered teenager that misogyny and rape/pedophilia/other sex crimes were quite rare in the Western world, but I learned that it's all just as prevalent as ever but most of the time men don't show it in your face.

I know that online doesn't always necessarily conform to reality, but in my real life adult men I had known (family friends and teachers, etc.) and former peers from school started showing their cracks with allegations and arrests. Rape, child porn, abuse, etc. Plus, like I said men don't always show it to your face and prefer to spew all their misogyny with their male friends and online. The volume of sheer hatred towards women online is too much for it to be a "small vocal minority" of men as some people would try to have you believe. It's clearly most men. Radical feminism/PPF made sense as the only coherent and actually substantial explanation for reality that tells it like it is unlike liberal feminism which is full of bullshit and tiptoeing around the truth, thus I've stuck with it ever since.

In regards to my life, discovering radical feminism and PPF didn't change a lot about my life. I barely wore makeup and now stopped completely, only dated a scrote once for a few weeks and never will again, mostly had female friends, etc. It mostly gave me a tremendous amount of confidence and motivation to improve myself. Sure I get depressed sometimes about the state of the world for women, but I'm glad I at least know what's going on to help me protect myself and that I still can rely on and look up to so many awesome women.

[–]Happy_face_caller 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Great post, something we should have done from the beginning, thanks for this.

what does your version of feminism look like?

I'm a radical feminist, I base my feminism in Radical Feminist theory which believes that women are oppressed based on our sex. I think it's incredible that we have a literal theoretical framework with which to draw from that allows us to discuss the exploitation of our reproductive labor, fight for autonomy, sovereignty over our own bodies and equality in law. I appreciate the many various approaches to feminism, yet none have a basic rulebook that allows one to stay focused on the liberation of women and forms of axis of oppression everyone born female faces. I really like pink pill feminism because it follows the same guidelines that all forms of feminism can coexist, WGTOW, Female, Separatists, et al. We can discuss any type of experiences women might have freely, not just focused on the degeneracy of men and their violence, but our own work to be sovereign over ourselves. I especially like the fact that we can call out feminism-lite and pickme handmaidens that seem to exist solely to undermine women. Women that think they benefit based on their proximity to and affinity for patriarchy. Women that convince themselves males will ever think we are their equals, by shitting on other women's rights. I also like the wit of Pink Pill feminism, sometimes Radical Feminism though important can come across as a bid dry and the reality of our situations can be so dire, yet the incredibly comedic terms creates a levity I really enjoy. PinkPill is my favorite feminism because it's the one that seems to be progressive by allowing anyone that will call out mutant Y chromosomes.

any aspects you don't agree with?

I have a background in Film Theory which was created by 2nd wave feminists, they came up with the concepts of criticizing the Male Gaze and an approach to film viewing that was critical of patriarchal media and identifying with the "default" viewing position that was assumed male. Women that had culture shifting views that are seated in being critical the way we think about the female form an how it's objectified and fetishized, the peeping toms and the scopophilia in film.

I despise liberal feminism, or GC women that call themselves Radical Feminists but have never read a drop of theory. Being GC is great, you don't need more than that, but Radical Feminism doesn't really operate in absolutes, even Black Pill feminism has it's absolutes in how women should live and biology that can be fanatical at times. The one thing we all share is we are anti-porn and anti-objectification of the female form and it's effects on the average male mind. Radical Feminism because it has theory is an open debate about female oppression and how it manifests culturally.

did you grow up in a feminist household? a traditional one? a mix?

I grew up in a fairly conservative Latin household, but my dad had an inherent distrust of men and that made him somewhat feminist leaning in that he would constantly remind his many daughters to never underestimate male violence and depravity. It was very helpful in trying to keep us safe.

what personal experiences led you to have the beliefs you have?

I talked about that a bit earlier, I first heard the word terf when I made a casual comment about males in female sports. Later I had a hetero female friend make an awkward comment about Lesbians dating Tims, I hadn't been out of the closet very long and I was completely appalled anyone would police Lesbians like this, but perceive themselves as immune from dating trans. It felt like a double attempt to assimilate Gay people while getting permission to be completely homophobic to my face under the guise of wokeness. We stared at each other with intense reciprocated affrontedness. Imagine thinking you have to save anyone from the "cruelty" of Lesbians by us not sleeping with you. I became committed to Rad Fem theory and Rad Fem spaces.

I also became incredibly uncomfortable with how racist trans advocacy started to become, using racial oppression as a mere talking point and masculinizing Women of Color. GC spaces are by no means perfect, but at least we talk about the plight of all women and like I said earlier radical feminism addresses intersectionality, not in a way to advance patriarchy but to dismantle it.

how has it changed you and how you act on an everyday basis/your relationships?

I have a zero tolerance for any forms of homophobia or policing of Gay sexuality and forced Gay assimilation. it has shaped the way I speak and the relationships I've formed yes. I was very feminist before finding Rad Fem theory, now I'm dangerous to patriarch through words and a platform.

how does it empower you?

anytime there is a dispute within GC feminism or out, I just return to the words of the theorists, I mean we have a framework for our autonomy from patriarchy and it's glorious and oh so helpful. it gives me ultimate power since most people that question us have a 5th grade reading level and very little understanding of what feminism is let alone its intention and application.

how do you help empower other women/how do you want to help other women?

I don't know that I empower anyone, I certainly make the homophobes think when they try to pimp us out to who they've decided we belong to. Maybe on my discord server when I'm able to help younger women have an insight into their approach to media.

I'd like to empower young Lesbians that encounter people that think they police our bodies and decide how we live our lives and who we are. I'd like to empower women that think Radical Feminism is an absolutism that dictates whether they wear makeup, procreate by choice or must be exploited for their labor. Like I said, we can always return to the theory as a guide.

Sorry if this was too long, but it was very cathartic.

[–]Maryam 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

/> Live in Pakistan

/> "Muslims suck because of terrorism. Kick them out / Put outsiders in their territories / Reeducate them" - Westerners, Indians, Chinese, whoever

/> "But men commit terrorism?" - Me, realizing that their mentalities would effectively ruin my life

/> Also recently became exMuslim

/> Realize that Muslim women live shitty lives

/> Realize that ladies poorer than me and less educated than me get shit from men both in Muslim communities and the West/China/India/Burma/whereever

/> "yikes"

/> Find my way in GC

/> "Ew trannies" - GC

/> "meh who cares" - Me, a Pakistani

/> find r/trufemcel

/> At least they didnt care about transpeople all the time

/> Wow r/trufemcels is actually based af

/> r/trufemcels user/GreenAppleTeapie69 (reee where did she go) creates ppf

/> she's generally a pretty charismatic person and the posts in ppf seem based

/> Fall down a black-pill and pink-pill feminism rabbit hole

/> Discover my life was actually based

/> Dad died, go to an all girls school, no social life so no effective communication with men

/> yayy

/> Months later

/> Realize that the media, the religion, the history, the philosophy, the science, the lifestyle, the technology, the economy, the culture, the government, that affects my life, was created by men from centuries upon centuries, and that every facet of my life and even aspects of my mind would be extremely different if they didnt. Men have effectively molded by experience in this world - and I dont know whether for the better or worse.

/> "yikes"

/> Develops an existential crisis

[–]Apricot_Ibex 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel this. I went to an international school with some kick-ass Pakistani girls in Saudi Arabia. TIMs are hardly the main concern for women in a place like Pakistan, or Saudi. Shit, TIMs aren’t even on the radar much in the Bible thumping Trump-humping southern US state I live in now. Women were never seen as fully human in any of these places to begin with. At least there might have been some tiny glimmer of hope in more progressive places. We have so many other crucial issues that are effecting women today, especially in the ultra-conservative theocracies and poverty stricken patriarchies (so, a huge part of the world). I love that PPF doesn’t play nice about it.