I appreciate that saidit is actively trying to fight the culture of censorship, echo chambers, and other toxic behaviors that have infected reddit over the years. I'm so impressed that I'm actually using saidit in a way I never used reddit: honestly and consistently. Everything I say are my own opinions in open-minded discussion, not experiments or other attempts to trick other users.

However, I have a question about what kind of subs we want here. Do we want echo chambers? By 'echo chamber,' I mean a subs that is specifically designed to ban people who rationally and politely participate in discussion without mindlessly agreeing with the culture of the sub.

An example of this on reddit is the /r/lesbians board. It bans anyone who doesn't like the number of men with gender disphoria ("trans") on there or dares to point out that these men simply straight men with a mental disorder rather than what people think of as a lesbian (a woman willing to have sex with women).

An example of this behavior on saidit is the /s/GenderCritical board (who ironically fled from /was banned from the above). It bans anyone who doesn't like radical feminist ideas presented there or dares to point out the connections between 3rd and 4th wave feminism, *even if the person is otherwise critical of the current transgenderism fad*. Other users who only use this sub didn't know it displayed this behavior and thought it was not possible to get banned, perhaps due to convoluted side bars.

For the record, I am fine with allowing echo chambers on saidit. This is a free speech community, and people should be allowed to plug their eyes and scream "lalalalalala" to avoid innocuous remarks like "I disagree and here's why." But I think the default should be subs that at least tolerate normal banter that might run counter to specific subs' idiosyncrasies. Maybe those that wish deviate from that should have an "Echo Chamber / Dissent Will Not Be Tolerate" warning at the top that those who browse (like me) instantly know to not bother learning this sub's rules because it's just an echo chamber. Additionally making those subs /ec/ instead of /s/ would allow people to know what kind of sub is being linked to without looking inside to find the banner.

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