Can the gender continuum test predict whether you are male or female?

Anonimouse · 2022-06-08T12:01:34+00:00

Based on your answers to the personality questions....

Our machine learning model predicts that (if you identify as "male" or "female") you have a:

90% chance of being Female 10% chance of being Male

Anonimouse · 2022-05-22T01:28:09+00:00

Sorry it took a while to reply - I dont check saidit as often as I should. https://blacklivesmatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/blm-2020-impact-report.pdf their own fucking report, pg 22

In 2020, we selected 30 local organizations (not part of our grassroots apparatus) to be our first cohort of official BLMGNF grantees. As several communities were thrown into heightened political, socioeconomic, and medical vulnerabilities through COVID-19, BLMGNF sought to ensure the survival of some of society’s most vulnerable: Black LGBTQIA folks. Of the 30 organizations selected, 23 of them are led by Black LGBTQIA folks and/or directly serve these communities in places like Chicago, New York, New Jersey, DC, and Alabama. Our selected organizations are listed below. We have committed a six figure grant to each of these organizations

Anonimouse · 2022-03-04T03:49:53+00:00

It's really about fetishising secondary sex characteristics. Wanting to keep your penis and have boobies too. I've just discovered r/ftmfeminity and can't even make that make sense anymore.

Anonimouse · 2022-03-04T03:29:33+00:00

Says the person advocating for "vagina havers" and "penis owners".

Anonimouse · 2022-03-04T03:26:28+00:00

On the donating thing, same happened with BLM. Nearly all funds were distributed to black trans groups or trans groups with a bit of "yay black", with barely any going to groups that supported black people generally or actually addressed any of the issues BLM was supposedly about.

Anonimouse · 2021-09-20T06:08:45+00:00

I thought the marxist places would be ok. They constantly harp on about the performativity of liberals with the obsession with IDpol over class struggles. The idea that a white homeless man has less privilege than the black guy in parliament. But no, I have now seen unironic "worker liberation is trans liberation" and just wtf.

Anonimouse · 2021-09-19T07:15:25+00:00

I've heard women complain that they always have to do the changing because that's where the changing table is, but I've always seen one in the disabled toilet as well, especially if there is no family room.

Anonimouse · 2021-09-17T12:40:44+00:00

I will say, when I went to a disability rights conference, I heard about feminism before disability. Intersectionality was pointing out that disabled women are significantly more likely to be abused and have many more barriers to leaving. Intersectionality, like most theory, can be used in a good or a bad way. Right now, it acts as a distraction to hide the universal women's issues. Though I think there is an argument that it is more a symptom of the trans infiltration of "feminism" more than intersectionality. Trans involvement meant women's issues are now exclusionary.

Anonimouse · 2021-09-17T12:32:49+00:00

I saw this play out on fb recently. I think it was a discussion of Yaniv, and it was such a fight between "not really trans so not representative of us, male pro nouns" and "must still use preferred pronouns or you are saying gender identity is a reward you can take away".

Just no. enough of this shit.

Anonimouse · 2021-09-17T12:05:03+00:00

The earnestness/entitlement of those who ask, as if it is no big deal and/or a favor to me

Ok, misgendering it is. Also, how entitled to ask people their name when you meet.

The expectation that I answer on demand (to strangers) about something that is personal, complex, and traumatic

Not that fucking personal. What do you want to be called?

And in the replies, when someone points out exactly what OP is on about here: “We” are actually all different. What some trans people find affirming is not what all trans people find affirming. Kind of like any community with infinity diversity. It’s almost like you have to treat all of us as individuals or something. inconvenient, I know.

How the fuck are we supposed to know which "we" you are if we can't ask?

Anonimouse · 2021-09-17T09:40:18+00:00

Legal logic in any decent jurisdiction: she was pressured and so no valid consent, even to the BDSM.

And anyone involved in kink knows breath play is something you don't do without explicite ok and understanding of how to back out.

Anonimouse · 2021-09-17T09:37:35+00:00

Oh no, the TIMS feel alienated in women's spaces. The horror.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-16T06:58:59+00:00

Pragmatic is helping refugees get out of that place/settle somewhere safe rather than using force to keep it vaguely safe.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-13T00:03:08+00:00

You say it sarcastic, but I came here from the exact same conversation happening on facebook when arguing over pronouns.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-12T02:49:40+00:00

Did they ever get to the bit where hormonal pills often stop that cyclical effect (if you don't take the sugar pills)? You can't replicate nature.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-12T02:29:59+00:00

It's how we get more people to peak. Have the discussion in their language but highlight our grievances. Some will just scream terf and ignore, but it seems more people are reading and agreeing whilst knowing saying so would lead to public flogging.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-12T02:28:07+00:00

I would have been their perfect ally. I don't care who you want to be in a relationship with, and that's all LGB was supposed to be about. I could even go along with using the "preferred" pronouns for people who were experiencing significant gender dysphoria until a better treatment for the underlying issue was found. But then gay started to mean so much more than just what genitals you like to mash. The kink in pride discussions got toxic af. And then thinking trans = dysphoria and we are all lying to slightly help became trusum/terf. It went from gender neutral things like allowing them to use the disabled to demanding access to womens spaces. If they'd just acknowledged it was a mental illness, they'd probably get more support.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-12T02:18:44+00:00

Yeah, I could have phrased better. Does any cis woman actually believe that, or have they obfuscated "woman" so much that men are now the first thing you see when thinking of women online.

I'm also a little salty and struggling to think clearly thanks to a horribly infected uterus muscle and wondering if there is anyway we could subject these people to an internal ultrasound to make it abunduntly clear they don't even have the area for the probe.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-11T10:31:25+00:00

Does anyone actually believe it like that? We know the cycle is hormone driven, but the cramping and blood are very much the uterus.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-11T09:21:58+00:00

This reminded me, I have a lot of screen shots to compile of a woman getting absolutely dragged for suggesting there should be spaces for penis havers and non penis havers, and we can use female and male for them if woman has to include a penis. Even when she brought up that her view was formed due to a bathroom rape, just people piling on that it's her problem and she shouldn't bring down more vulnerable people.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-11T09:07:20+00:00

This is just going to be used to claim "this never happens". If trans is based solely on self identification, and he said he was trans, he's trans.

Anonimouse · 2021-08-11T09:05:07+00:00

I've spent too much time around my uni "queer collective". TL:DR, "choice" for surgery + blaming society for their high need to access mental health services (because they aren't ill, it's just society)

Anonimouse · 2021-08-11T09:01:50+00:00

It's easy. There is the cis/het male group, and the everything else group. Female spaces are now for anyone who identifies as anything but a cis man. Nonbinary? That gets you in the women's group.

Anonimouse · 2021-07-28T11:16:02+00:00

the rights of transwomen trumped the concerns of natal female prisoners.

And that's why she had to use female pronouns referring to the TIM.

Anonimouse · 2021-07-27T00:21:11+00:00

God I hate knowing the mainstream pro trans would be all for this.

Anonimouse · 2021-07-26T11:42:19+00:00

Ok, so gender doesn't mean anything anymore? It is literally definitionless. That is the only way I can reconcile this.

Anonimouse · 2021-07-26T10:56:07+00:00

Well sex and gender are both the same thing, completely different things, and not even a real thing.

Anonimouse · 2020-10-01T09:36:56+00:00

I think they'll argue that they just meant in terms of validation, yet every single conversation lately seems to emphasise that they mean it as a statement of fact - penis havers who identify as women are in fact female.

Anonimouse · 2020-10-01T00:21:28+00:00

Similar. Was (and still am) far left, but the trans ideology just kept pushing for more insane things. Funnily enough, the tra's I knew were basically for gender abolition, except when needed to reinforce trans identity.

ETA: the peakening, though not interesting enough for the thread, was realising that the discourse was going from sex and gender aren't the same, gender is the social performative bit; to claiming sex is also a spectrum, and arbitrariliy asigned. Basically, AMAB/AFAB did it.

Anonimouse · 2020-09-30T09:04:27+00:00

Beyond the support messages, they also pull out of a lot of "sociology" or gender studies citations to make it seem like everything is on their side and TERF is just the new racist.

Anonimouse · 2020-09-17T07:12:11+00:00

I've started asking people to explain the problem with terfy arguments without just saying "it's terfy" as a response.

Anonimouse · 2020-09-17T06:51:59+00:00

It's really highlighting how "the left"* have no distinction between cross dressing and transness. Like, when they got rid pf dysphoria or any criterion to gender change as "gate keeping", they lost the definition with it.

Anonimouse · 2020-09-15T05:07:50+00:00

Oh thank fuck. I've seen way too many "treatment for dysphoria is affirmation, so they're cured".

Anonimouse · 2020-08-15T00:33:42+00:00

TiFs aren't trying to get into exclusive male safe spaces.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-13T04:45:36+00:00

I caught a similar one yesterday, about wanting to keep gender because trans, but abolish gender roles. What does this mean gender is?

Anonimouse · 2020-08-13T01:24:06+00:00

To which they say a lesbian should be fine with a TiF.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T12:11:26+00:00

I'm not full conspiracy, but I do think these drug trials seem a bit rushed, and it's alarming how many doses are being prepared even before research is finished.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T10:40:54+00:00

I wish there was more peaking though. It seems like every id group is taken over by it

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T09:12:39+00:00

If they pass, you just say they have passing privilege.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T09:01:57+00:00

I've been seeing a lot of "no matter how bad of a thing TiM did, that still doesn't justify misgendering" when someone used HE.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T08:59:37+00:00

Shrodingers Trans. They are both valid trans and fake predator until you look.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T08:47:56+00:00

It's already feeling a bit like voat. Noticed a lot more jew conspiracies today. I don't think it's the debate pyramid, but that anyone who a) came here for a specific subject (the banned reddit subject) b) also likes other subjects that aren't really busy on here c) isn't at the extreme of that specific subject

will just go back to reddit for all the other subs. The extremists stay. That leads to more of the interested moderates who can do both sites leaving, and here getting more extreme..

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T08:41:49+00:00

But also, it's really fucking hard for women to access treatments that would improve quality of life by reduce fertility in case they want kids later. But if I say I'm a man, I no longer have that attachment to the painful organs?

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T08:38:54+00:00

And then if we do start on those uniquely female issues, it can't be made gendered because we are ignoring the TiF's.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T06:55:37+00:00

The response if I were on the other side of the fence would be to say that we aren't ignoring sex; sex just has no relation to gender. So we talk about people who menstruate, people who get erections, people with uterus...BUT, our romantic attractions should be to gender and not sex according to this crowd, and that's the context where it should be ignored.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-12T06:53:36+00:00

Probably something about how TiM's are even more oppressed, as they were both women AND not cis so double oppression points.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-11T23:57:23+00:00

Or you get actual lesbians who are scared of being called out and so force themselves into it. It's comphet with a few extra steps.

Anonimouse · 2020-08-11T23:43:18+00:00

More broadly anything to do with ableism in identity politics would be interesting as well.

I went to a uni student run disabilities conference. Being uni, rife with ID pol. Most of the time was spent fielding "anonymous" grievances because someone said something alphabet soup. One was someone getting seriously pissed when a younger woman with CP said she was tired of being viewed as asexual and wanted to be viewed as a sexual woman despite her disability. Complaint stated that the person needed "educating" about LGBT issues, as asexual people can be completely sexual. It ended with half of us leaving to run our own sessions because disability advocacy totally needs peer support to learn how to do this shit. There isn't as much of a "guide book" on this. If you were running the womens collective, there's almost a text book saying what events you should be doing, and the splits just come between rad v lib.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-29T07:34:41+00:00

I feel like you missed my point. Is the problem the fact that women are being paid for sex, or the abuse? If hypothetical world allows for safe sex work (maybe decrimalise, regulate, make it easier to NOT have a pimp for sales and "protection"), would the idea of women using sex appeal for capitalistic ends still be a problem? Also, you do know women look at porn, so it's not all about poor peepee.

Fuck, there is an entire subset of sex work that is devoted to people with physical disabilities that cannot get anything even approaching intimacy otherwise. Is that as bad as a queensnake video?

The general concept of consent not actually being consent within the radfem discourse is probably the thing that I found difficult with the group. Consent is always questioned, with the radical and of radfem saying all hetero sex is rape because women can never truly consent away from social pressures/.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-29T07:30:41+00:00

Do you only see it like meat?

Anonimouse · 2020-07-27T04:39:35+00:00

Both sides need to be a little less black and white on this. As an industry, there is some terrible shit out there. But, if the work can be done in a safe manner, then it should be viewed as just work. Putting an adult selling selfies on the same stage as trafficking and molestation is disingenuous.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-26T11:27:35+00:00

Yeah, that was 100% me. Now I'm really unclear what view points stand on what sides.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-24T04:19:56+00:00

Has this been removed or do I really fail at twitter?

Anonimouse · 2020-07-22T09:21:04+00:00

I'm going to guess you've had a bad experience and generalising a lot from that. They also don't have that much power unless something has already happened to get in front of a court.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-22T02:50:58+00:00

Do you mean psychology in general, or gender therapists?

Anonimouse · 2020-07-22T02:49:53+00:00

A lot have probably believed the hype about not assuming the kid is cis/het. Add in that a lot of the messaging says early transitions have better outcomes. It's a well meaning but poorly informed parent.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-22T02:32:40+00:00

I'm only new to here, but is there a place for more broad gender content?

Anonimouse · 2020-07-22T02:29:43+00:00

From just a pure psych perspective, it is interesting what happens with invalidation, particularly in kids. But like a lot of good things coming from softer sciences, it's been abused by activists.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-22T02:22:49+00:00

I can do this. I can do this...

If it's attached to a brain that IDENTIFIES as female, it's a female brain in a (male) body, with a female penis.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-22T02:21:41+00:00

XX are the egg producer and XY are the sperm producer. No longer male and female.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-22T02:20:17+00:00

Around the same time TERF became a thing, wasn't there also something like "truscum" for people follow that line. Or even wanting something as basic as psychiatry involvement.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T08:40:00+00:00

How is a dildo a penis then?

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T08:36:57+00:00

Have you had actual sexual contact before? It seems like you are going down the whole any penetration = liking penis. Ditto for penetrating = vagina. Just, no.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T08:33:03+00:00

Might be location specific. "Cunt" is used in a similar way where I am in aus.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T08:22:20+00:00

I could go on for pages and pages about this. It's obvious in LGB circles, but it's happening in race and disability as well. And it tramples real issues. Can we just have T all on it's own? It's not a sexual orientation, so doesn't belong with them. And it can stop hijacking everyone else./

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T08:19:57+00:00

Now you can just record someone saying "you are valid, your thoughts are legitimate and valid. You are allowed feelings, they are valid" over and over. And now I cringe when therapists use the word.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T08:18:46+00:00

I was actually struggling with writing that out. I have my own axis II fun, and have had a lot of difficulty with accepting treatment. It's like they're trying to remove every element of who I am.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T08:17:27+00:00

It got to the point where even the head of the uni queer group, a TiF, is sick of it all. I hadn't spoken to [insane one] that day, so referred to it in the third person by the name and pronoun I'd last heard. Nope. Gone from they to she, with a name change to match. TiF above corrects me, I roll my eyes, and get in response "i know, but that's what they want".

Changes every 2-3 days. Goes from "butch fem" to "fem". Still has a penis and won't shave the face. And it's in a queer relationship because the partner is (female) butch identified with they/them pronouns.

I finally figured out how this works. It was explained to me on fb that pronouns and gender identity are unrelated. So you can be a male, masc identified she/her lesbian.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T08:10:59+00:00

I've always responded with "well, I'm not really a rad fem." And I think that put me off GC spaces.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T04:12:13+00:00

I was in a meeting with a group of younger TRAs and one older gentleman. It was at uni if that sets a better seen. We go round the table doing name and pronoun (because some people have to change pronouns daily, it has to be done on every meeting). This person just says they go by "the normal ones". All hell breaks loose.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T04:06:13+00:00

It's really frustrating, because intersectionality is actually a useful tool. I was recently studying anti discrimination law, and there's some good criticisms about how it overwhelmingly helps women who are already pretty well off. You need to have access to the institutions that enforce discrimination law, and intersectionality cuts people off. You see it with black women, where a claim has to be made on grounds of sex OR race. Show that policies allow for white women and black men, and it's all good.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T04:00:25+00:00

If JK didn't, I really doubt Kardashians can.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T03:58:56+00:00

People unironically hold the position that TiMs are more woman than women, because they have to work for it or something.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T03:54:02+00:00

It gets even weirder when you consider how the TRA discourse hated the idea of dysphoria as a criteria - that was just gate keeping. Now, there is no need to vaguely try and transition.

On one hand, we have taking lithium despite no bipolar. And then we also have claiming bipolar AND refusing treatment. Furthering the analogy, do we also have no bipolar, but wanting that sweet oppression point, so taking paracetamol in the form of wearing bad lipstick (makeup is a skill dammit) and maybe a skirt.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T03:48:28+00:00

Current pop psych is all about the importance of validation. 20 years back, it was all about how you need great self esteem even if you are a piece of shit that shouldn't feel good about themselves. Now, everything is valid, everyone is valid. Your opinions and views are valid.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T03:44:19+00:00

Link? plsplspls the article, not the deleted post, obv.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T03:41:20+00:00

I've seen some try and pull out the male/female brain studies, although I believe they have never accounted for socialisation and neuroplasticity causing the changes. If you get rid of dysphoria, the absolute disgust at seeing a sexed body, then there is nothing left but borderline misogynistic social norms.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T03:30:46+00:00

I haven't got to that one. But fuck the TRA that cropped someone sharing their partners suicide and making it into a pro trans thing.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T02:02:45+00:00

I'm enjoying a comment thread where OP maintains that hormones will make you biologically transition to the point that there is no difference.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T01:48:38+00:00

"Honestly, at this point, everything TERFs say about trans people could be true (it isn't) about 100% of them (it is not), and I would STILL support the Trans-folk over the TERFs. If I have to pick between a community that validates trans folk and a community that validates TERFs, I'm going with trans people."

So feels before reals, with a side of misogyny.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-21T01:43:52+00:00

"Any real trans person who supports this is in the smallest minority. They may receive tons of likes, but that very well could be from bots or trolls."

So all the trans people who are doing this aren't really trans. I thought it was entirely self ID, and these people IDd as trans.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-16T11:52:19+00:00

I've just signed up to do training to be a better "lgbtq+ ally", and betting most will be this gender stuff, and absolutely nothing about the unique challenges lesbians and gay men have. I hear how they talk.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-16T07:09:07+00:00

Sorry, as I explained elsewhere, this isn't what I believe, just how I've seen some TRA's get around your point.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-16T07:08:17+00:00

Sorry, I should clarify that I absolutely don't believe it. It's just how I've heard them get around the whole choice thing. A lesbian must like self identified women because twaw or something. Liking no penis in your women is a preference, and one that they liken to race to make it sound worse.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-15T04:55:54+00:00

Genital preference. The sexuality refers to the gender you like. Trans women are women, therefore lesbians like trans women OR have transphobic genital preference.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-15T04:52:52+00:00

Between the name and the post history, I think it's just a shit poster.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-15T04:45:50+00:00

This morning I came across "bdsm is an orientation, just as immutable as being gay".

Anonimouse · 2020-07-14T11:29:49+00:00

I believe they are extra horny, but not attracted to other people. So they fap, a lot.

I educated myself.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-14T11:29:21+00:00

I believe they are extra horny, but not attracted to other people. So they fap, a lot.

I educated myself.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-14T06:04:37+00:00

Why would those currently "winning" in the current system want to destroy it?

Anonimouse · 2020-07-13T12:18:40+00:00

If you follow the stuff that moderator posts on other communities, he is certifiably insane. He also seems to think he is a wonderful human specimen and wouldn't transition because that would mean no passing it on.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-13T11:23:06+00:00

Cause they use dysphoria when seeing genitals as an excuse.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-13T11:12:16+00:00

I got one of these in the wild. Response was that the person almost certainly wasn't tested for xy before being asigned male, so it's just based on the penis and testes, and now we have the degendering of the sex organs in the TRA rhetoric.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-13T11:10:36+00:00

I feel like sexuality is going to go the same way soon. This morning, I came across a similar "google it", "educate yourself" in response to hypersexual asexuals.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-12T07:16:19+00:00

It was a cultural studies course. Great for the GPA.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-12T07:15:52+00:00

Yes. 110% sarcasm.

Anonimouse · 2020-07-09T07:39:10+00:00

But Blaire has never really claimed to be a woman. So, is the speaking out any different to any of the other hundreds of videos responding to something else on the net?

Anonimouse · 2020-07-09T07:37:32+00:00

An emerging literature on competitive victimhood documents the prevalence of victim signaling by various social groups and provides evidence for its functionality as a resource extraction strategy.

God I hope this becomes a thing in social studies - competitive victimhood. Is this why TIM's are now allegedly more woman that actual women?

Anonimouse · 2020-07-09T07:33:18+00:00

From what I've encountered, because there is variation within the subgroup, it now means there is no subgroup. So, because some women are as tall as the average male, and there are some guys shorter than the average woman, height is now useless as a distinguisher. Can say the same to height, strength. Shit, there's almost certainly a guy out there rocking some DD cups whilst some women are flat chested, so even mammaries are uselss.

In uni, I vividly remember being told that there are fuck all visually distinguishing characteristics between men and women, and THAT is why society makes us work so hard to differentiate with makeup, push up bras...

Anonimouse · 2020-07-09T07:27:34+00:00

GC posters said TIMs aren't women. That's literally killing people.

Anonimouse