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[–]Amazing_Aardvark 87 insightful - 6 fun87 insightful - 5 fun88 insightful - 6 fun -  (26 children)

I created an account on Reddit today and made my first post in r/Gendercritical. A few minutes later, it was gone. So, I’ll rewrite it below:

I don’t quite recall when I experienced “peak trans”, but I know it came hand-in-hand with “peak Left”.

I’ve become more and more alarmed by the censorship, the refusal to debate, the obsession with identity politics and the cult-like repetition of slogans such as “Trans women are women”, which is a circular statement that one can only back up through mangling the English language.

I support people living their private lives as they see fit. If you wish to have surgery, go ahead. If you wish to change your name, OK. But, if your wish to coerce me into denying what I see with my own eyes, buzz off. I won’t do it. Your rights end where mine begin, and I have the right not to participate in an ideology that I find abhorrent.

So, I refuse to say things like “men can menstruate” and “her penis”, because, well, those statements are ridiculous and I don’t want to debase myself.

Other issues that motivate me to speak up include: the vile attacks on women who speak up (sending love to JK Rowling), the erosion of women’s sports (to which I dedicated a large portion of my life), the sterilization of children, and so on.

Though I have generally approached this issue from a liberal perspective, rather than a gender critical one, I look forward to continuing the discussion with all of you.

[–]Shinjin_Nana 41 insightful - 5 fun41 insightful - 4 fun42 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

I peaked left after peaking trans too. It's been politically pretty rough for GC rad fems especially if you lean left on other political issues.

Biden says VAWA in the same breath as TWAW and I'm like, NAAW.

I am happy to know I am in good company.

[–]Barber_Acrobatic 42 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 0 fun43 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think I'm going through the same peak-left situation currently. Now I'm not about to throw the baby out with the bathwater but I'm deeply uncomfortable with this whole purity of thought, and the ideas that some concepts are beyond the scope of debate. I'm really worried about what the future may hold, although knowing I'm not the only one does help

[–]Shinjin_Nana 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)


My issues is that with the right, it's the fight I understand for women's rights. With the left it's bottomless... like, hoisting the trans stuff onto a new generation of young women who will take tens of years to clean up. I'm having trouble deciding which is worse.

[–]Barber_Acrobatic 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the thing that really scares me is if this is seen as over correction to how long it took gay rights to be accepted, and so the trans stuff is just being rushed through, what happens if/when the pendulum swings back the other way. Like say the TRAs get their way, and anyone can identify as a women at the drop of the hat. How long until the dregs of society start seeing this as another way to clamber into acceptance. 'MAP' kept trying to weasel into LGB, and despite the 'who would go to all the effort to get to children' rhetoric the TRAs rely on I kinda think they would.

I suspect it would be incredibly hard to explain to the far right that LGB isn't the same as T, or even that there are people with genuine dysphoria who just live their lives. I worry that the left is on a knife edge of doing permanent harm to our reputation and values, and that past a certain point all the ideas and principles we have will be bundled up and dismissed as 'woke nonsense'.

It feels like it has the potential to blow up in our faces, and a swing to the right would not be something I'd cheer on.

I think I've become a bit of a political orphan

[–]Rationalmind 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought that too. With the right, I know my enemy but with the left, I’m backstabbed.

[–]Rationalmind 39 insightful - 3 fun39 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I also peaked left at the same time I peaked trans. I peaked left when SJW’s wokespeak started to sound misogynistic, racist, elitist, and classist while coercing speech with pronouns. Thank goodness for radical feminism using a traditional class analysis, it’s been my saving grace.

[–]Anonimouse 34 insightful - 2 fun34 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'd been involved in identity politics for ages. My thing was disability, which is really, really under represented everywhere. It was interesting noticing just how intensely other "groups" focused on identity so hard trying to ignore class. But class is everything. Wealth and the access to the means of survival and meaning is everything. You can't discuss oppression without discussing class.

[–]Rationalmind 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Precisely! I have all my other forms of identity too, but to wipe out class, which is the strongest driving factor, is madness.

[–]JustAMom 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ive never heard "wokespeak". I've always used "newspeak". Mind if I copy you from time to time?

[–]marmorsymphata 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The whole thing becomes transparent when you realize they NEVER say "Trans men are men." It's not really about gender dysphoria and never has been. It's just another arm of misogyny.

[–]Anonimouse 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure for some it is about dysphoria. But we don't hear about them. For the most part, they transition and quietly live their lives. They know it's a lie and don't force it on anyone, but it makes their life a little easier.

The groups screaming trans women are women, and abusing people over a simple pronoun do not have dysphoria. This is why they even have a simple dismissive "slur" like TERF for people who think dysphoria should be required.

I have sympathy for people who look in the mirror and feel so wrong with what they see that they'd rather take to their genitals with a knife than continue. And I don't mean surgery, I know two people who have tried diy's during intense dysphoria. But the like of JJY or that piece of shit abusing the game stop employee are not trans.

[–]jelliknight 28 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The left has become afraid of discussion. They believe that if we all talked openly, everyone would become Trump supporting Nazis.

I think it's because i few decades ago, racism, misogyny, and homophobia were far more common and accepted and 'the left' was the alternate. Meaning that in order to become left you would have to question the dominant narrative, and figure out what is true and right. Those people don't have to fear debate. Now people are raised in a world where left is the default. They've never had to ask questions like "but WHY is it important that gay people can get married? Really, it's just a piece of paper, a government document and a relic from a time when women were property. What's that got to do with two dudes in love?" They don't have a good answer for that because they've never had to look for one. "This is what good people believe, shut up and accept it." Just like fundamentalist christians they're afraid that allowing outside thought will turn people "to the devil" because they're actually very uncertain of themselves.

WE know that homophobia, racism, and misogyny are NOT morally or logically defensible, because we've checked. We never have to fear discussion.

[–]Ofthewoods 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I have reached peak left too it seems. Politically homeless - that’s a phrase I’ve seen used before. It’s very disorienting because I have identified with left wing politics my whole adult life, and my beliefs are overall still progressive. But the silencing of anyone who even asks questions, the anti-science... I had thought progressives were about critical thinking and science? I think I started hitting peak left several months ago when the word eco-fascist started getting thrown around on Instagram for things like sharing a post about the skies clearing during lockdown. Like these are just everyday people sharing a news story, but eco-fascism!!!! I even saw one eco influencer I followed telling her followers to watch for people to say anything along those lines and confront them about their eco-fascism. Way to alienate unsuspecting people from any kind of environmental movement. It’s like words don’t have meaning anymore and no ones going to find out if you just yell loudly and for long enough to win the argument. And then yeah, the JK Rowling was my true peak trans and left.

[–]100_percent_truth 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Same!! They are inextricably linked. When you start to realize that narratives count more than logic, at the expense of women, it's hard to say you support it anymore. I think I may write in Megan Murphy this fall.

[–]JustAMom 74 insightful - 2 fun74 insightful - 1 fun75 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

When Catlin Jenner said the hardest part about being a woman is picking out clothes. When pedos and rapists entered womens prisons. When medical facilities started erase the words mother, breastfeeding, woman, ect.. When judges forced women to call men "she" while under oath. When women are fired for not submitting to this ideology. When women loose political positions reserved for them. When teen girls are forced to change clothes in the presence of males, at the same time loosing scholarships for their sport. When I gave birth to my daughter.

[–]Nona_Biba 41 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 0 fun42 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When judges forced women to call men "she" while under oath.

IIRC, the man in question was the woman's RAPIST. Why the judge gave a shit about a rapist being "misgendered" by his victim, I'll never know.

[–]JustAMom 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, absolutely disgusting!

[–]Cosmo 62 insightful - 3 fun62 insightful - 2 fun63 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

Trans widow here. Ex husband was addicted to porn. Confessed he was sexually attracted to young girls and lady dick. Shamed me for having genital preferences soon after coming out. Emotionally abused me for years.

[–]quickbeam 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you've found happiness since then.

[–]Cosmo 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thanks! Luckily, it was a very short marriage. I've since remarried, and I'm the happiest I've ever been! The experience definitely opened my eyes to craziness behind trans ideology. I'm one of the lucky ones because I was able to leave the relationship relatively unscathed and cut him out of my life completely. I think about other trans widows every day and hope they find their way here sooner or later.

[–]SameOldBS 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I feel so sorry for those women so indoctrinated and coerced that they stick by men like that. Well done for getting the hell out.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Must be the whole "No Kink Shame" movement that's making people want to embrace taboo fetishes (e.g. minors). Good riddance he's gone.

[–]Rationalmind 61 insightful - 3 fun61 insightful - 2 fun62 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I re-peaked today with Reddit’s mass banning of women.

[–]Barber_Acrobatic 45 insightful - 2 fun45 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's scary. Especially considering they've gone for small women based subs as well like the Scandinavian GC. While the fact that GCGuys has been left up is useful to direct people here it's also incredibly telling that it's not our ideas that they take issue with it's our sex.

[–]Anonimouse 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It always seems to come about when there is a change in the Board. Last purge was around Pao, and now we have this new guy because it's important to have someone black.

[–]Taralafya 56 insightful - 2 fun56 insightful - 1 fun57 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Caitlyn Jenner

Trans telling women to suck girldick


Obvious dudes in women's bathrooms

Silly pronouns

Men thinking they have periods

Abuse of JK Rowling for GC beliefs

GC banned from Reddit

And much more!

[–]Anonimouse 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Men thinking they have periods

I wish I could find it again, but I came across some crowd funding push for basically a tampon that leaks "blood", so TIMs with bottom surgery could experience periods.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And this might be the next thing the alphabet soup activists will fight for, because "MUH FEELINGS". Modern day psychology and counselling treatments has now devolved into validating lunacy and stupidity.

[–]fruita 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I wish I could find it again, but I came across some crowd funding push for basically a tampon that leaks "blood", so TIMs with bottom surgery could experience periods.


They are unhinged. I'm beyond offended, as someone who suffered with horrific periods for a long time. Are we a joke to them?

[–]Anonimouse 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I've wanted to add some of the less desirable parts, like constantly kicking in the lower back.

[–]SameOldBS 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is so insane that you instantly know is HAS to be a fetish. Real women don't enjoy having periods - well, unless they were having an unwanted pregnancy scare.

[–][deleted] 52 insightful - 1 fun52 insightful - 0 fun53 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I was a shy lurker on Reddit, I didn't have an account there. Your posts and ideas have been such a relief to me this year, I felt so alone when I thought I was the only lesbian peaking in the whole world. Today's ban made me peak so intensely that I put away my natural introverted behaviour to join this new place. I see, now more than ever, that numbers matter: I was an invisible supporter, and now I'd like to be at least a "+1" in this situation. Thank you so much, thanks to all the women here that made my mind clearer and calmer. P.S. my written English is rusty, I hope it's not full of mistakes, lol

[–]fuckingsealions 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'd rather see passionate, thought out ideas with some mistakes rather than the opposite. Please don't silence yourself since you obviously belong here. :) I'm a native English speaker and I need to do better with my writing, lol.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you!!

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I felt so alone as a straight woman seeing the delusions as delusions. It's like "The Emperor's New Clothes" except the difference is, I'll be called a transphobe (and I guess it would be accurate now, so it doesn't matter, though it's still not going to stop me from reporting it as an insult in real life because I like making people feel stupid for harassing me).

[–]femalefinch 47 insightful - 2 fun47 insightful - 1 fun48 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I’ve had dozens of peak moments, but one that particularly stands out is when I was 16 or 17, I was aggressively harassed by a man while walking in the park. He was at least twice my age if not more, and he followed me and yelled at me from his car. I was beyond uncomfortable and embarrassed, to the point where I never told my parents that this happened. The very same day, I saw a comic made by a TiM about how he wished he would be catcalled and harassed by men. That made me realize that TiMs dont want to be women, they just want to fetishize and downplay our experiences.

And then of course, today’s banning of GC has peaked me even further. I’m confident in saying that I never want to welcome any men into my life, for the REST of my life. I’m done with males. I’m done trying to be PC so as to not hurt some delusional male’s feelings. I’m fucking done with all of it, I just want to live my life as a free woman not caring what anyone thinks.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How to get long-term attention without even trying, just claim to be trans.

[–]nerio 46 insightful - 2 fun46 insightful - 1 fun47 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The very first peak was when I got death threat and rape threats for saying I don't want girl dick or any dick. I was flat out disgusted. Ever since then I have been slowing waking up. Seeing realizing more and more. Another time I got told I was a man and should change my gender because I'm a masculine woman (think butch). I can't assume other's genders but they can tell me what I am? Hell, no. This is another peak. I will not change my opinion. I will not bow.

[–]irritablewombat 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Masculine women are wonderful! I'm distraught about the number of young GNC women who are getting convinced they're not women because they don't want anything to do with femininity.

[–]usernamezerozero 44 insightful - 1 fun44 insightful - 0 fun45 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

When my daughter was about three we were out walking, stopping on a fairly desolate train bridge to look at trains (her fascination at the time). A very imposing figure with feminine attire approaches, gets into my personal space and says “You know, if you abuse them at this age it’s okay... they won’t remember.” After the disgust passed, I felt sad that this person was so emotionally damaged. Looking back, I see it was calculated abuse against a natal woman. It was the “no one will believe you,” smirk on his face. Like many, I’ve been busy and somewhat isolated. I wasn’t aware of how horrible cancel culture had become. The JKR post and the violent response to it, getting personally banned by two parenting groups for benign comments, getting cancelled by a school librarian friend all pushed me over the edge. As a woman and mother of a daughter, it is incredibly important for me to fight this battle. Unlike some women with careers to protect, I am professionally aloof at the moment (a stay at home parent for various reasons). As you can see, I need to hone my writing ability to be more effective, but I’m ready for the challenge.

[–]JustAMom 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How terrifing that must have been. I also decided to quit my job and stay at home with my daughter. I do not believe anyone on this sub will judge us for this decision. Your not alone, there are many mothers who feel as we do.

[–]fuckingsealions 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was home when my girls were little. Then I went back to work, later changed careers. As humans we should have this freedom to do what's right for our lives and families.

[–]fuckingsealions 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have experienced women with mental illness saying random things to me before, but only one strange time was there this level of weird, intrusive intimidation from a woman when I was alone working in a retail store, and I wasn't afraid she was going to try to hurt me. However I have had many men say unhinged, unwelcome, and unprompted things to me. I'm sorry this happened to you.

[–]dancing_with_durga 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reddit silencing women has DEFINITELY given me a major re-peak. I first peaked a year ago when I was researching trans issues because I wanted to be a better ally and learn about respecting pronouns. The more I learned the more I was like "Wait...hang on? What? Males in female sports? Girldick? Harassing and silencing women who speak up? Cotton ceiling? Calling us menstruators? WHAT?!" But for a long time I thought it was just a silly fringe issue. I don't want to be a political person, I want a quiet life with my family. The unbelievable vitriol poured out on JK Rowling, and now this act of woman hating censorship. They are making me want to fight.

[–]essentialismisBS 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I peaked thanks to my AGP ex. I tried to tell him what it was really like to be a woman. He told me it was sad that I didn't like being a woman, and maybe I was trans, too, because when he thought of himself as a woman he felt only peace. My lived experience meant nothing to him, his feelings and fantasies were the only truth. I finally realized he was just practicing more of the same erasure I'd experienced since childhood.

[–]respectmyidentity 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is what I can't stand about the trans movement. It gives straight men even further license to act like they can diminish/ignore what women are saying.

[–]Shinjin_Nana 33 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I usually kept out of it until i was with my ex-friend in a sock store buying socks as my birthday gift.

I made the comment that "I wish they would put the boy patterns on the girl stuff", referring to wanting dinosaurs and rockets on my female (smaller) socks instead of pets and donuts and hearts etc, that the store had.

She made some scene about gender identity and the interchangeability of underwear, that it wasn't gendered, I don't even remember at this point but it had nothing to do with my complaint. But it was a 'don't be a transphobe' shot across my bow.

I muttered that you should just wear what underwear was made to fit your body and we left quickly.

I got socks, she got a hard side eye and was kept at an arms length from then on.

[–]Riva 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When people show you who they are... You should listen.

Also when people tell you who they think you are... You should listen.

[–]Amareldys 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

But... male underwear has a hole where we don't need it...

[–]Shinjin_Nana 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SSSHHH don't say that we're not supposed to say that LOL! XD

[–]Moirawr 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Reposting my old peak

About 6-7 years ago or so I was very libfem, was barely aware of radfem. Gay people were granted the right to be married in the US and I wanted something new to feel self righteous about. Trans people were being talked about a lot more. It was new and different and magical and “breaking gender norms” lol. Of course I didn’t believe they were literally women, but if they were so unhappy and suicidal, I didn’t see the harm in a small number of mentally ill people living that way if it helped. The death of Leelah Alcorn got a lot of attention and pushed me to join pro trans subs to understand them better and adopt their rhetoric. I was looking through memes in gender cynical and not really understanding them. Then one caught my attention. It said something like “if you saw someone cute at a bar, you wouldn’t grab their genitals to check before flirting.” Well that makes no sense. So I commented something like “I’m straight so I don’t want to interact sexually with someone else’s vagina, trans or not. Am I missing something?” They dogpiled called me a “terf” and told me to go back to gender critical. Having never heard of it before, I checked it out. Being a libfem I was confused there too and got banned, but I stuck around and learned cuz I knew I was hearing the truth. They had a ready and willing ally and in my very first interaction with them they proved to be hysterical morons, whereas GC put me off initially but won me over with something they’ll never have, the truth.

[–]respectmyidentity 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe they will keep calling women TERF's who ask those questions and keep turning everyone against them.

[–]venecia 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I didn't hit peak trans until one of THOSE people was encountered in real life. You know, the rainbow haired barely-disguished men in dresses busting for the chance to use women's spaces. The ones that we all convinced ourselves and others were strawmen made up to discredit trans rights.

He latched on to me and decided we were instant friends. He had terrible body odor (fruitlessly covered up by cheap flowery perfume) and spent the entire lesson burping on me and loudly clearing his throat/gargling snot in that loud way that men do. The only indication in dress or otherwise that he identified as a woman was a female name, and rainbow hair. But the last straw was when I quitely stole away in the middle of the lesson to use the toilet without announcing anything, only to return to find him emerging from the ladies restroom to ask where I'd gone (thank god I used another up the stairs). Why would he do that? When classes ended for the day he asked where I lived, and kept bothering me for contact information on social media before I relented and took his phone number.

And then it just hit me like a truck that he was allowed to do all of this with no other requirement other than say he ''felt'' like a woman, and asking to be called a different name. And that he had a penis. And that he was so thoroughly socialized male that he didn't see how any of what he was doing should be uncomfortable or threatening to ''another'' woman.

Yes, I admit that I was selfish enough to see all of you as t-slurs right up until the kind of people you were warning me about actually exist and actually do this stuff.

[–]Underthestairs 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember reading this on the old GC!!! Ugh ...

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[–]Anonimouse 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The only indication in dress or otherwise that he identified as a woman was a female name,

This just reminded me; at uni, there's one of those "smash the gender binary" male feminists that has decided it's now trans. He doesn't shave the face (because beauty standards are anti feminist, enforced hair removal is sexist, therefore expecting a MALE who is larping as female to shave their beard is anti woman), wears ridiculous and poorly done lipstick (think blues, purples... the sort that need to be done perfect to look good) and embroidered all his jackets to say "she/her". And now that it's a woman, it will happily speak on behalf of women.

[–][deleted] 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

One of my best friends from university came out as a TIM. At the time I was deep in libfem territory and the woke friend, so I was very supportive, etc. Our chats, which were normal before, became all about cute anime boys, makeup (which I never wear), clothes, bra sizes, you know, the usual ~girly stuff~. He was only out to some people so I lied a lot about him to other friends who cared deeply about him, since he basically ghosted everybody. Made me beg so our common friend used the correct pronouns, but then used his male name and male pronouns online when convenient. That was the first wake up call to me. Then I discovered he used his older sister's clothes when she wasn't home and he was in my house countless times before. Of course this caused my brain to wire something new and I discovered Gender Critical at the time. Everybody was so supportive and helpful, and I didn't feel crazy or like I was the only person feeling what I was feeling about this hijack of women's struggles.

So then I started posting soft (lol) gender critical stuff on facebook and he decided it was because of him and asked me why I was posting "hate". So I was upfront with him and told him what I thought about the whole issue and that my mind had changed. The subjects went from "why are men allowed to identify as women and white people can't identify as black people" to women's rights. He wasn't at all empathetic with women's issues like menstrual huts. Made my blood boil so I just deleted him from my life.

[–]leaveandletleave 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That’s what made me realise it was a new form of misogyny, too - men claiming to be women but not wanting to hear about the actual struggles women face.

For me, it was a man in my female chat group’s Pregnancy channel, who said that as someone who had supported a partner through two pregnancies he had valuable insight to offer. To pregnant women. In a women-only chat group.

I contacted the mod, explained my issues, spent a week reliving my assault due to having accidentally disclosed private details about my body without knowing there was a man present, and was told that I should consider why I would be okay with a lesbian reading my comments, but not a man (who identifies as a non-binary woman which is... what?).

I wasn’t assaulted by a lesbian. I was assaulted by a man, and I have been abused by men. Once I realised my trauma was never going to be as important as some man’s need to feel special, I did some searching and ended up on GC. And yesterday broke my heart.

Glad to see you all again, and hoping the rest find their way here soon.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

wow how come I'm not even surprised anymore? I'm so sorry you had to go through that :(

They literally don't care about us, they only want the "good part" of what being a woman means, or what they think the good part is. I don't see them wanting to "become" middle aged women or do what's expected from women (like domestic work), it's always about the "lost teenage years" and emulating the sex object they think we are.

[–]respectmyidentity 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I had a female friend come out as a trans man and the second she did I was not allowed to interject when she was conversing with other dudes. One she transitioned I was literally excluded from bro talk. Like, what?

[–]Anna_Nym 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is my first post because peaking has been a slow process for me from being hella Woke, and I still consider myself a trans ally at heart. But the attempted take down of Jesse Singal's Atlantic article on detransitioners caused me to get so confused because the discourse around it seemed so unrelated to what was actually in the article. This in turn caused me to pay a lot more attention to what the discourse was. And it was so, so not the trans advocacy I knew from my college days, in which no one considered transvestism to be the same thing as transsexuality (because yes, I'm old enough for that to have been the desired language) and no transsexual denied the reality of biological sex.

And I want trans people to have bodily autonomy and employment and happiness, but there ARE conflicts in rights. Women should be able to advocate for our needs without being threatened with rape or other forms of violence. We should have a say in whether so-called gender inclusive language is ACTUALLY inclusive (because "menstruators" IS hella dehumanizing). And biological sex is real and matters, and there is no way to talk about sexism without preserving language about sex.

I think it's been a 2 or 3 year journey for me to get to the point where I could admit that what I thought was fringe stuff that no one really advocated for (like cotton ceiling) had actually become representative of the movement. This is leading to some peak Lefting as well (along with other things).

I'm glad to find you all. It's nice to be able to say explicitly that when push comes to shove, I believe trans women are trans women, trans men are trans men, and non-binary identities have no coherent meaning to them. Also, that the whole co-opting of intersex identities is gross and incompatible with the Woke left's own principles.

[–]Tumblingteddy 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

For me, moving in birth circles in social media, and seeing women erased from birth. "Birthing persons". Birth is the most female thing anyone could ever do. It is the central theme of womanhood, and all of our social burdens come from the fact that it is women who birth, (even where we chose not to). But all of a sudden, normal words for the female body were becoming taboo. And then everything after.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If they're banning words, they should logically aim for the signage on toilet doors. Oh wait, they just want their gender identities to be validated.

[–]veruscka8 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I used to have a coworker who was a trans woman and they would tease and neg me for not wearing full makeup and flowy dresses every day like they did, as well as dole out unsolicited advice about managing PMS. I never could figure out why it made me so uncomfortable and I never talked about it for fear of being transphobic. I started peaking when people attacked JK Rowling and then when Reddit’s banwave happened, that was it. I had actually never heard of GC before the banwave, but now I’m so grateful I’ve stumbled into it. I feel like the world makes more sense now!

[–]Underthestairs 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've peaked so many times by now I've lost track. The super sharp ones? Yaniv, Vancouver, the hatred on JK Rowling, period-havers/menstruators, the hatred people use when they chant TERF, the art exhibit, Caitlyn Jenner taking her daughter-in-law's name (that was peak #10,000 something). Bathrooms. I was raped in a bathroom, so yes, I am going to be triggered if I see someone like Gamestop dude in one. Sports. The pronoun game. People reposting Tumbler crap that was so one-sided. The Cotton Ceiling. Jazz Jennings' filmed brainwashing and abuse. the 'you're a terf in my POV' hashtag, showing MEN threatening violence. It's sit down and shut the fuck up. Then detransitioners. I feel so bad for the kids that were brainwashed by this cult, and now will be paying for that their entire lives.

I don't hate trans people. I have trans friends I care about. I support them as humans. But I also stand for women's rights. Those things shouldn't be in conflict, but here we are.

Also, I was pissed when I found out the ban. I've only posted a few times, but I never saw hatred on GC.

[–]pennyheax 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Like many here, I started off fully TWAW. I felt sympathetic to the plight of trans people and the stories of high school students being harassed in bathrooms. Making laws to forbid them from the bathrooms where they "passed" seemed needlessly intrusive and cruel. The explanation of protecting women seemed like a smokescreen for transphobia given the incredibly low rate of assault in bathrooms. It seemed like any other excuse that right wing bigots used to keep out Latinos, Muslims, or Black people. I feel absolutely awful for trans people in the prison system and have read many gutwrenching stories from them. Many of them describe lives where they must either act as sex slaves the entire time or go mad from solitary confinement.

The first crack in my ideology was when I saw transwomen competing and winning in women's sports years ago. This just seemed to fundamentally unfair and akin to steroid use that I couldn't believe it was actually allowed. Not everyone can compete in high level sports. All kinds of people for whatever reason aren't able to compete in high level sports, whether it's allergies or asthma or disability, and maybe it's best to lump trans people in with them and that's okay.

Every time I heard about a transwoman winning at sports, I would get a little flare up of unease, and then outrage when I heard about Fallon Fox fracturing a woman's skull in MMA. I don't understand how anyone can't look at that as male-on-female violence right there.

However, I wasn't passionate about this issue, so it fell off my radar for a while until I heard about the Vancouver Rape Relief Shelter being vandalized. I was so shocked at the vandalization that I wondered whether it was an actual trans person who did it or some alt-right asshole who was just trying to spread hate and further polarize these groups. That was the first time I ever heard the term "TERF," and when I googled it, I wasn't entirely clear why it was supposed to be offensive. I read the descriptions, but I didn't understand what it was about "TERF" beliefs that deserved so much vitriol.

Then, I read that the Vancouver Rape Relief Shelter was defunded due to a trans activist. I read trans people celebrating this, saying shit like "fuck all TERFs," and I realized just how toxic trans activism had become.

These thoughts were only amplified when JKR made her tweet about Maya Forstater, and I saw all the abuse she got for basically telling people to live how they wanted but don't deny biology. Like, WTF? How did trans activism get filled with extremists and science deniers? I read through all of their refutations too, the articles that they thought supported them containing the most specious arguments about clownfish and intersex people somehow supporting their cases. (Also, I saw a picture of Gregor Murray and W T F that is a full-ass man. I have some background in biology, and I've always been skeptical of "nonbinary" as a legit gender dysphoria category anyway.)

The latest tweets from JKR, the essay, and the "woke" response to them are what sealed the deal for me. When the fuck did it become okay for woke left to dismiss the concerns of women who are rape and domestic abuse survivors? What ever happened to being respectful of triggers for traumatized women? It used to only be butthurt men who frothed at the mouth at the suggestion of treating interactions with men as dealing with Schrodinger's Rapist, but now it's the left that's telling women to shut up and #NotAllMen. THIS IS NOT OKAY.

But, I was still open to the idea that maybe I was wrong. Maybe transwomen really weren't as big of a threat as cismen. So I did a deep dive into a bunch of the research.

I found out that one study found that transwomen retained a male pattern in regards to violent crime.

I found out that 20% of the trans population in male prisons in CA are incarcerated for sex offenses. This is actually higher than the cismale rate of ~15%.

I found out the 40% of the trans population in UK prisons are there for sex offenses. (Though this "only includes people who have had a prison case conference. It won't include transgender people who haven't identified themselves to the prison service or who already have a gender recognition certificate." Although the actual percentage is probably lower, it's still an alarming number)

I found out that since the UK's new laws allowing trans people to be housed with their identified gender, the number of trans-identifying people skyrocketed 10x. If all of these are actual trans people and not just opportunistic cismales, then they are overrepresented in prison populations by a factor of 4.

From there, I've just been reading more and more outrageous things. Like crunching the numbers on the "epidemic" of trans people murdered reveals that overall they are statistically safer from homicide than the general population. This suggests that the high murder rate for transwomen of color has more to do with race, poverty, and sex work than anything else. And on that note, Black women are over twice as likely to be murdered compared to trans people--where is the outrage?

All that said, I still feel that most trans people are fine in the same way that I feel most men are fine. I don't hate men, I'm just wary of them and I won't stand for my legitimate concerns being dismissed. They're just trying to live their lives and they face a lot of discrimination and harassment. They deserve support and safe spaces, but those safe places shouldn't come at the expense of women's safety.

[–]PurpleAmathea 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Transing kids was what made me start questioning all of it. A parenting group I was in had one very very transactivist mom and her trans kindergartener bringing I Am Jazz for show and tell, and complaining about the trans phobic parents who had a problem with that.

I was like... "what the fuck? How is a kindergartener trans? What does a kindergartener know about gender?"

And that led me to detrans and gender critical and once the blinders were off I couldn't put em back on again...

[–]AutogynePhil 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

My peak trans story is incredibly embarassing, but it almost killed me and I feel as though it needs to be told to help lift the veil of this absurd ideology. I am a man. I was born with a penis. I also got exposed to incredibly degenerate, kinky porn at a very young age on 4chan, including trap porn, which initially interested me only in terms of being attracted to traps, but I slowly began to realize that I was finding myself imagining being the girl more and more. This fetish escalated to me stealing my step mothers panties and bras and buying a wig from party city and, while underage, at the encouragement of users online, I started dressing up like a girl and posting lewd photographs of myself online. I got far more positive feedback pretending to be a girl than I ever did as a boy, and with all the mental issues that come with being 16-17, it became something of a refuge for me. I didn't like myself, but girl me was cute and got tons of attention, so obviously that must be the better version of me, right? Besides it was totally harmless, just cross dressing, right?
I spent years loving the idea of myself as a girl, I mean why wouldn't I? Particularly with growing support for trans people, and less love for bi people than ever, I could finally be part of a group where people would want to raise me up and support me rather than put me down for being male (ironically while dressing up in girls clothes, I was drinking a lot of Redpill koolaide at the same time. I believe these are absolutely linked to my aforementioned self hate)
My Peak Trans moment was realizing that the only parts of being a girl I liked were deeply rooted in horribly misogynistic beliefs. I loved womanhood because I am submissive, and I subconsciously and problematically perceived femininity to be a titillating way to express my inferiority. I wanted to be a woman because Reddit, 4chan, and The Red Pill were all telling me how being a girl is life on easy mode, and you can just be paid for being cute, and you get to wear frilly dresses and do whatever you want without fear of judgement. To my young, troubled self that siren song seemed like such a free escape from the loneliness and confusion I was struggling with at the time. So I had this perfect storm perception of woman hood A) being the easy route in life and B) I had been conditioning myself like one of pavlovs dogs, only getting off to tranny and "sissy" porn. I was miserable. I was convinced I was in the wrong body and started developing weight based dysmorphia, and even at one point tried to go on hormones (thank god I didn't.)
Ironically, since I live in a pretty liberal area, the girls I've dated have always been incredibly supportive of me as a "genderqueer" and some have even encouraged me to transition despite only ever having any interest in girls clothes when incredibly horny or depressed (or both) and would dress me up and things like that, then give me tons of positive affirmation, digging the idea deeper in my head. Between that and this societal shift towards pretending trans women are exactly the same as biological women, female superiority, trans superiority, and frankly very real cis-hate out there, I was effectively being groomed from a mild kink for liking womens underwear into fully transitioning into life as a woman.
I actually got so far as setting up the Gofundme. My GF at the time was a bi-radfem and also fetishized the idea of my transitioning. She was turned on by the idea of me giving up my manhood and therefor actively encouraged me, so I made plans. I was gonna take a year off from work and live with her, try to transition out of the public eye. I was gonna get on estrogen and top surgery then save up for bottom. Luckily I realized (due to far more than just the trans grooming) that she was manipulative and not healthy for me and I got out of the relationship before taking any further steps towards transitioning. I found GenderCritical 2 years ago and HATED it. I actually spent several months trolling it till I got banned and gave up, but I never unsubscribed and kept seeing the headlines pop up, slowly chinking away at my cognitive dissonance. I started to think about what exactly about being a woman was appealing to me, and realized that those ideas of submission and passivity go directly against my beliefs as someone who tries their hardest to be a good feminist despite many years of ignorance.
If you were to believe porn, most trans women are these gorgeous hairless 5'4 pixies who are barely distinguishable from women if not their cocks. In real life, as I collected more and more friends in the trans community, I realized that the majority looked a lot more like me, male looking, male acting for the most part, only into feminity when horny, fully convinced they were stuck in the wrong body because of porn and the internet warping their perception. It just felt so toxic when I realized we were all feeding each others delusions and then going out and demanding others respect it as well.
I am so glad that I've accepted my actual biological gender. I've stopped shaving my legs and chest, I'm no longer dressing up or watching trans porn, and it's only helped bolster my once shaky confidence. Now that I am owning who I actually am, I am able to build up from there, rather than running to some identity I perceive as being "easy mode."

I am so sorry both for any damage I might have done back in the day as well as how fucking long and ranty this post is. I just need to get it out there because I KNOW there are many many many like me who have simply fallen for a lie that the internet is selling them that they will be happier as women, and that any issues they have in their life stem not from unnadressed issues but being in the wrong body. Those ideas actively caused my mental health harm and almost sent me down a path that would have likely ended in suicide.
We need to save children from the scourge of trans grooming.

TL;DR: Peak Trans for me was realizing how sexist and delusional it was to want to live as a woman to be more "naturally submissive" and desirable.

[–]MezozoicGay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

perception of woman hood A) being the easy route in life

Oh. So seems this idea came to TiM's I know from 4chan and other similar far right resources. No wonder those people ways and actions are so similar to far right and including violence and misogyny.

My ex-boyfriend have similar ideas and even worse, saying that he can play "a perfect woman better than any woman can", but in reality he is only playing to misogyny views of "what woman is". It was really sad to lose a friend to such views.

[–]pennyheax 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was fascinating. Thank you for sharing.

[–]Itsmeagain 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I peaked with the treatment of vancouver rape relief by TRAs. I’m now a regular donor.

[–]avesatan 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I have quite a few~ this was when I was still in high school. we had a typical shy nerdy kid with autism. a bad breakup later and he's suicide bating on snapchat, posting the im so lonely, I want her back ect, a few months later he suddenly came out as trans to a bunch of women in my grade, and changed his online avatars to be more ~feminine~, then suddenly he started sending snaps asking for pictures of girls breasts to see what they looked like because his dysphoria was killing him. when it was brought to the attention of the school he threatened suicide and baited the administration to not suspend him. he still hasn't 'transitioned' yet..

[–]its1342 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Here’s the archive link for the previous peak trans threads, and so far it seems like the links work to get to past ones. (I’m not sure if it’s because I’m on mobile, but Peak Trans XI just redirects to todays date and a message saying GC is banned.) Peak Trans X

[–]Freddit98 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Malick Yoba being trans-attracted and being told it meant he's heterosexual. Seeing the attempts to redefine sexual orientations and deny biology. The first JKR drama then REALLY took me there.

Edit: Oh and the cotton ceiling, being attacked for being bi and having a preference for men and women but not transpeople.

[–]threefingersam 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I peaked when I saw a woman on twitter refer to women as menstruators & uterus-havers. Big yikes. Worse still, she was praised for her "inclusivity."

[–]Stand 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My peak trans: When the TRAs made such a fuss apparently that they got this subreddit banned from reddit. This is what prompted me to create an account here.

[–]irritablewombat 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I peaked a few months ago when I first saw lesbians being banned from lesbian spaces and sent rape and death threats for not wanting to interact with "girldicks".

[–]Finally 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

JK- anyone who read what she ACTUALLY wrote and finds it hateful is deluded.

[–]GConly 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Peaked a couple of years ago while arguing with /u/lividspring, a Reddit TIM. At the time I had the idea that all TIMs were the gender dysphoric HSTS who genuinely had issues, and I was only concerned about male offenders taking advantage of self ID to offend.

After being told some outright lies (like TIMs don't sex offend) and the usual bullcrap I hit Google to dig up some research.

So... Yeah.

Same offending rate as males, most don't have gender dysphoria and most are heterosexual. We are being lied too about who wants access to women's safe spaces.

Putting on a dress does not make men less likely to sex offend, who knew.

[–]AbrasiveLace 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I first began to Peak Trans 10-12+ years ago when I first read about Michfest. I'd never heard about it previously and was utterly baffled that there was controversy surrounding the fact that a women only gathering wasn't allowing people with penises - aka men - in. I could certainly understand why women might want to organize without men around, regardless of how said men "identify", and honestly could not fathom that anyone would have any sort of problem with it.

Then, 6-7+/- years ago I heard the word TERF for the first time. As with any acronym I'm not familiar with I did a search and found out what it allegedly meant. I looked up what TERF's believe and... again, could not fathom why anyone would have an issue with what they were saying. People with penises should not be centered in feminism, since they aren't female. How could anyone with any sense argue against that?

I heard about lady-dick. That magical, magical appendage which is somehow female despite no other female mammal possessing of one. I saw what they were doing to the lesbians... and once more, could not fathom that not only were actual lesbians being driven from their communities, but the people doing so were being cheered on in the name of "progress" and "equality". I could not understand how anyone could deny that a lesbian is someone only attracted to the same sex. When did it mean anything other than that?

I joined r/gendercritial several years ago, back.. maybe 5 years ago? when they had a mere 3000 or so subscribers. I didn't agree with what they said entirely, but probably 95% made perfect sense to me. Again, I could not fathom that people though men should be centered in feminism.

Since that time it's gotten worse. All of it. Women's sports. Women's prisons. Women's shelters. The word TERF being tossed around like the worst sort of slur... right up there with racist and nazi.... as if being a woman concerned about the rights of women was a dirty, shameful act of hatred. Lesbians banished from their own communities. Censorship and silencing and autocratic dogma and regressive ideologies leading the way towards pushing women's rights backwards. r/Gendercritical was the ONLY place on reddit, and most of the internet, where these issues could be discussed. Everywhere else you'd be burned at the figurative stake for voicing even the most sensible of concerns (see JK Rowling). And now that's gone, too.

Something needs to give. The TRA's are taking too much from women and girls... and given it to the (mostly white) TIMS as if the women are their oppressors. The censorship and authoritarianism that they've wielded like weapons has to break at some time, doesn't it? Because, once more, I can't fathom how anyone with any sense can see what is happening and think that this is any sort of progress.

[–]warriorwombyn 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I was a lurker on GC, never posted. I peaked around 2014 when I was neck-deep in SJW ideology during my tumblr days and even got swept along briefly. I eventually realized that they were actually upholding the binary they claimed to be dismantling (by insisting you feel more like a girl when you wear dresses and makeup, etc). I was shut down for that wrong-think immediately and that reaction alone made me begin to question every facet of gender identity and its involvement/implication on other social movements. I began studying feminist theory and strongly identified as a radical feminist for awhile but honestly over the years I have grown very, very wary of ALL ideology and consider myself simply a discerning and compassionate humanitarian. But my passion for honoring biological womanhood has only strengthened over the years as I grew in my spiritual practice as an eclectic/non-traditional witch. Re-peaked briefly when I realized that men were trying to call themselves witches despite how fucked up that is in historical context. That make my blood boil. Re-peaked yet again when I began my training as a birth doula and realized that the birth community is being overtaken by libfems trying to enforce dehumanizing and reductive language, ie: Birthing people (NOT women). Chest feeding (NOT breast feeding). This REALLY makes my blood boil and I can't voice my concerns for fear of being ostracized by the birth community and never finding clients. Re-peaked again with JK Rowling and banning GC was the last straw. I'm here to stay because I NEED this community or I will lose my damn mind in this illogical, chaotic world.

[–]Rationalmind 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don’t understand the “chest feeding” thing because men have breasts too... why does breastfeeding need a new term?

[–]GConly 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

found out the 40% of the trans population in UK prisons are there for sex offenses. (Though this "only includes people who have had a prison case conference. It won't include transgender people who haven't identified themselves to the prison service or who already have a gender recognition certificate." Although the actual percentage is probably lower, it's still an alarming number)

It means they represent about 0.4% of sex offenders. Trans at that time made up about 0.2% of males (GIRES study).

So actually more likely to sex offend in the UK as well..

[–]OptimisticOcelot 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I already posted this as a reply to someone else, but I think it's worth posting because my absolute peak was the erasure of GC and other female-oriented subs.

"Finding GC was a wake up call for me. I had largely just gone along with it, blindly accepting everything I was told so as not to be mean or hurtful.

I became a feminist because I was tired of being shrunken. I was sick of being minimized, of crossing my legs and leaning against the opposite edge of my seat to make room for the "manspreading" individual next to me on the bus. I was done being talked over and being told how to be myself by men and women with internalized misogyny. I was strong!

But then I found GC, and it was a revelation. I realized how much room I had been making for men in my own female spaces! I was, once again, being told how to woman by people who had grown up with male privilege. I was still being shrunken, hushed, and talked over to make room in the conversation for people who, even if they had similar experiences, had chosen to live those experiences. Even still, I never commented or posted. I was grappling between my newfound rage and my indoctrinated beliefs (not to mention fearing the social backlash of saying that sex is biological and gender is bologna).

But seeing GC along with several other feminist subs get erased changed things. Watching trans people dance on the grave of GC while casually ignoring the fact that rape fetish subs were untouched sealed the deal.

I've peaked. I'm here. I won't be silent anymore."

[–]SameOldBS 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was a second wave feminist blithely celebrating the sudden resurgence of feminism amongst young women, having no idea that it was not any kind of feminism I'd recognise. I was also oblivious to the whole trans debate until I watched a documentary on Munroe Bergdorf where she goes to a feminist meeting to show what horrible bigots they are and realising the woman in the background was making more sense than Munroe. Then finding out trans women are competing in women's sport. But it was the proposals for self ID in the UK that first peaked me - the idea that any bloke could decide he was a woman and enter women's spaces just struck me as completely insane. Perhaps because I'd had a lifetime of men and their shitty behaviour so I know they absolutely would take advantage of that. Then I happened to watch an interview with Posie Parker, and while I wasn't on board with her hard line on pronouns, she introduced me to AGP, and then a whole lot of other things fell into place. I'd watched a British documentary on people who transition, and the way the middle aged tims treated their wives, their obvious selfishness and narcissism had really struck me, but now I had a name for it. From then on it was a fast downhill run into full terfdom, with JKR giving me a hefty shove along the way.

[–]Susiesmum 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My first post on reddit was made on a Peak trans thread when we had less than 1,000 members.

I remember watching a documentary about transsexuals about 15 years ago where a transwoman described how thrilling it was to be groped by a taxi driver - it meant he "passed" as a real woman! No real woman would be thrilled by that, most would be scared and angry. It was then that I realised that they have no more idea about women's lives than any other man.

[–]1234abcdcba4321 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was always considering seriously going trans, but it was reading this sub that finally got me to think that it's been enough. I realized how much I'd been glorifying being a woman despite how I'd consistently heard otherwise, but I've always thought that stuff like TiM being able to participate in female sports was going way too far. It's surprising how far propaganda goes, but I'm glad I didn't make a decision I would likely regret (I believe had I started it would be more difficult to stop than stopping beforehand, since there's a tendency to take the path of least resistance and getting all the supports for transwomen would be one of those). I'm a bit surprised by how quickly my opinion changed, but I had doubts the entire time and the reddit banning was what finally did it.

[–]EllaRoxy 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I always lurked before but Reddit was the last straw for me. I peaked a long time ago when on several dating sites got called all kinds of nasty things because I am a lesbian and wanted to date another woman rather than a transwoman. The J.K. Rowling thing pushed me even further into being gender critical. I can't believe how many people on this sub think like me and I feel way less alone. I am peak left now too. I'm done with the name calling that happens when you don't agree with their view points. It's not all of them, but a whole hell of a lot of them. I just don't get how you can deny science. Identify how you like it doesn't make it true. I look forward to participating here.

Edit: After reading more I had no idea what the Cotton Ceiling was and all I can say is what the actual fuck? Word lesbian means attraction to the same sex, as in two women together. I don't even know what to say and as someone who is rarely speechless that did it.

[–]Chair 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Cancellation of MichFest, and that TiM that won the women’s cycling race.

[–]SameOldBS 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rachel McKinnon. Peak trans-ing people since 2018.

[–]MezozoicGay 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

My "peak trans" happened twice. First time was nearly 5 years ago when my ex-boyfriend who was bottom (i am gay male) was pushed by queer theory propagandists in our country to become a transwoman. And instead he bacame a Trans-identified Male in all meanings. I know a lot of respectful and nice transwomen (up to 20 people), but this one became TiM. When he was sharing his (can't call him "she" like I am calling other my transwomen friends) thougths, all I felt was disgust. He was saying "Now I am a better woman, I have male brain and smarter than women, I don't have periods, I can't become pregnant, and I have good looking body, I am better than any woman can ever be". He was saying tha living as man is hard, and living as woman is easy way and piece of cake (really?). The single thought in my mind was "for 20 years my friends and myself were fighting for LGBT rights, we have scars on our bodies and souls, we were repressed, beaten, and all was for this? This can't be real". That was the first time I started thinking about this english-language-only "gender" idea being harmful. "More woman" really? There can't be "more woman" or "more man". You can wear any cloths, work at any job, have any tastes, how you live and what you like does not define your sex and your sexuality. Cooking food does not mean that you are a "woman", wearing pants does not mean that you are a "man". Eating bananas does not make you a monkey, you are still human, no matter what. And the worst thing is that this "TiM" ideology is on all channels, all sites, so new transwomen thinking this is correct thing to do, correct way of thinking, and instead of being themselves, they are trying to follow "gender" stereotype. So they are becoming abusers themselves, instead of living happy life and being themselves as they really wanted to.

Second time was when I finally opened my eyes. My very close friend, lesbian, with which we were fighting together in our youth (I was 18, she was 15, and her girlfriend was 16) 17 years ago was a victim of a "corrective rape", which was so horrible, that she is until now can not recognize anyone but her mom, and can not move her body. My soul was scared for life (that was when I started to helping lesbians and feminists more than my fellow gay men). And last year, there was this situation with Vancouver Rape Relief center. When Trans-Laws Abusers made a war against VRR. When whole world was celebraing fact, that "rape victims now will have no place to go, that less rapists now would be caught" - was standing aside and not believing in all the surrealism of the situation. LGBT community celebrating victory of patriarchy and helping rapists. Instead of fighting for their rights, they reduced someone elses rights. This was unbeliavable. Untill this day I can not believe this is true. But it is. LGBT community is supporting people who made my close friends life a living hell, supporting people who are against LGBT and just using it as shield. This is just some sadistic form of misogyny, it is not LGBT anymore. Anakin of Jedi's. LGBT community was supposed to fight misogyny, not join it. And now LGBT community and "allies" are censoring any ideas that are not "correct", just like it always was from patriarchy, but now it is from the inside. I just felt discouraged after seeing that, and that was the last drop.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My peak was from way before the gender delusion became mainstream movement, because I wasn't a stupidly bias female who took the brain scans as conclusive evidence that there's "female" or "male" brain structure. Research as far as I know hasn't considered what causes the brain to develop structures that's stereotypically seen in humans and have not tracked the development of the brain structures stereotypically seen in female and male humans from day of birth to adulthood (and I came up with this thought without actually studying university level biology, watching YouTube nor discussing about this on reddit, in my early 20s) and I also knew since I was a late teen how bullcrap this whole "born in the wrong body" mentality (I never paid attention to this stupidity and lunacy until I began using Tumblr around that age).

I was raised in a family where I have to do a lot of self-reflection, value objectivity over subjectivity and being a lonely independent kid makes for a lot of personal conversations with myself (private thinking time which comes as a form of me talking to myself in my mind and feeling like I am actually talking to someone, which is a nice feeling to have and allowed me to accept my solitude throughout my life) and the ability to do basic research helps.

It would be nice to call it common sense, but considering how many people don't understand basic biology (and even neuroscientists seem to fail at maintaining non-bias in their research as you can tell by the language they used in their notes) people in general tend to heavily weigh feelings over facts, it doesn't seem so. Even I wasn't so sure at the start, hence why I spent so much time contemplating about my current knowledge and beliefs on how gender identity should apply to society and how it's already being applied to society (e.g. "female" is a term for the sex who reproduces in all animals, "girl" and "woman" are terms for female humans at different stages of their life).

Edit: Fixed some wording

[–]Anonimouse 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I had a male online friend since the age of about 14. He was same age, and we mostly discussed life - nothing creepy (yet). 7 years later, he tells me he feels like a woman and is about to start hormones. I ask exactly what it is that feels womanly, as I sure as hell don't identify it with a feeling being PMS - it's a physical body. His explanation involved feeling pretty in summer dresses, wanting to be pampered and do girly things in spas and the like (though thankfully not JY type, just face and nails), and then the truly misogynistic things like feeling subervient, wanting to serve people, wanting to be forcibly feminised by bitchy women. Textbook fetish stuff.

I still talk to him. He ended up giving up on the transition for work reasons, and now acknowledges it's a fetish, which I guess is a win.

I'll probably edit in some less PEAK stories. I know way too many trans folx.

[–]MezozoicGay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

His explanation involved feeling pretty in summer dresses

This part always bugs me. Does this mean that Ancient Roman soldiers were "feeling like a women" when wearng dress-like army outfits? And Scottish warriors in kilts are just transwomen? And Ancient Greeks? And European aristocracy? Jesus? Alice Cooper? All glam-metal bands? This always made no sense to me.

It is not really fitting the topic, but I have a short story about the dresses and men. During time when I was active participant of LGB protests in my country. During summer time I was wearing Greek Toga cloths, because it was way too hot to be in "what men must wear" and I dislike shorts. People were so shocked by that, they were so agressive towards me, everyone was asking "Are you gay or something?" (and back then I was thinking I am straight or bi-sexual), I was even beated once by "christian life defenders" for wearing it. That was more than 10-12 years ago. It wasn't very hot here until recent years, and last year I went in Greek Toga-like stylized cloths to a LGBTQ meeting/protest in my regional center. And this time I felt myself again uncomfortable, as I was bombarded again such questions "Are you transwoman?" and "Are you a Gay?". But this time LGBTQ folks were asking this. I just answered to them that I have a freedom to express myself regardless of who I am and those questions are both transphobic and homophobic, because they are assuming who I am just on "role I must play if I wear such cloths", I was dissapointed, but, gladly, they seems to understand my position. Time is passing by, history is repeating itself.

[–]venecia 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was simple: being beyond reproach as an ''oppressed class'' accounts for like 90% of people resorting to some kind of trans-umbrella fuckery (more easily spotted if they're trenderqueer). For straight men especially, this is a way to deny their male privilege and gain theoretical access to the only kind of woman they did not have access to as a straight male (lesbians). Corrective rape was just nicely changed to forced teaming. The number of incels who ''cope'' by becoming transwomen ought to speak volumes.

TRA has seen such enormous, explosive growth that is only explained by the privilege of white straight males NOT being discarded so easily!