Why are some LGBT activist hypocrites when it comes to cis men not dating trans people?

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-14T16:24:12+00:00

You can put an incel in a really pretty dress that goes spinny and everything, but they're still an incel.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-11-16T03:17:06+00:00

More than likely, but that's fine with the people doing it.

By definition, the people demanding that LGB people find them attractive and have sex with them because trans are the insane narcissist incels who'd gladly burn the whole world down as long as someone will fuck them in the ashes.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-30T07:24:44+00:00

That's unfair.

Any singular T also doesn't give a fuck about the Ts either if it will not get them any personal glory. No matter who you are, even if you're in the same group or indeed, bent the knee to them, the person will absolutely turn on you the second it's convenient for them or they get a reward, power, prestige, or even that little rush of dopamine they can only get from knowing they destroyed another human being just because they CAN.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-11-09T16:59:36+00:00

No, no it isn't.

Asking "what is a female brain" is a worse question because it plays right into "I think, therefore I am" even more than anything else. The answer to "What is a female brain" a snart would give is "My brain. My brain is a female brain", so it's worthless to ask.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-06-23T17:26:09+00:00

Even if Saidit is where these subs go to die, it's the only option when the assholes' side have WON. They've made it clear that those who say the emperor is naked will be beheaded, and everyone has to agree it's the finest clothing in the world, it's the greatest thing ever, and beg to suck the emperor's covered dick.

Even if no one comes here, the only hope is that this move by the power mods is proof they're going mad with power, and as they do, they'll only ban more sites that don't bow down to them and solely be about their ideology, and the more they ban, the more come here.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-07T18:36:48+00:00

IF you're right, the most logical answer:

All activists know- the second your group becomes equal, the gravy train is over, you'll stop getting Venmoed just for existing, and you have to go get a real job.

Gay marriage was seen as the "okay, show's over, go get a real job" moment, so the activists who refused to went a letter down to trans for "nope, still gotta fight, mom! Can't marry you now, honey, I'm a part of an important cause!"

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-06-25T17:55:12+00:00

Don't forget that, if a sex strike were to happen (and have a chance to work), these people would also do more to make the sex strike fail than anything. Even beyond incels who'd be "...how you going to threaten us with our lives anyway? Hell, we're happy Chad has to live like we have to for a while", the one thing to stop this is this inevitably leading to guys who still want sex going 'fine, I identify as non-binary and change nothing. Ladies, you can still fuck me..."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-06-22T03:30:37+00:00

It's the weakness- leftism has moved to a single-issue, "if you are not, at this very second, slowly, lovingly sucking a girldick, you are alt-right." Of course they'd keep that standard.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-03-12T20:01:15+00:00

...on paper, you'd be right.

In practice...you know there's only one thing in that story that would get this person fired, and it's "after a paragraph or two they stopped even bothering to call the parent NB themselves and started calling them the kid's mother."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-26T07:08:00+00:00

Honestly, the other half of the answer (independent from, as said, the "you're not allowed to say no to them" fact), is that these are insane narcissists.

Because they're insane narcissists, they will never accept those reasons as the truth. You can say "You are one of the ugliest women I have ever seen, and I've been on safari tours in San Antonio. And I could forgive that if you were a pleasant, nice person to exist with and had a personality that was beautiful, but you don't. You are literally human excrement, but saying that is unfair; at least a piece of shit could grow a crop to feed a hungry person, or even a pretty flower that will put SOME beauty into this cold, cruel world filled with people like YOU in it. And even just asking the reason means you're not just a rotten person who's uglier than sin, you're also a creepy, rapey POS too so you can't even take no for an answer. You have literally no positive qualities surrounding you except a warm hole to stick your dick into, and you're so utterly repulsive in every way, shape, or form I'd sooner heat up a tin of Spam and stick my dick into that than put it inside you. If they made me put a flag over your face and fuck you for Old Glory, I'd join ISIS just to refuse it. If you were the last woman on earth, and I was the last man on earth, and the future of humanity depended on us reproducing, I'd charter a boat into the open ocean and dive in just so you don't get the satisfaction of being able to fuck my corpse." ...and these people would hear that diatribe and respond "...so, it's because I'm trans then."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-25T12:32:48+00:00

Which leads to the forgotten part:

Theory 3 They're high school catty mean girls who want an excuse to bully people for the rest of their lives. It's a power trip, and the less systemic power a group has, the more power an individual can claim. This is why the first thing the fakers do once they adopt the group is kick out the real people in the group for not being cool enough and that makes them sad.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-02-16T04:52:36+00:00

Don't forget that Chris-Chan is one of the few cases where the receipts are there that they openly said they only transitioned to date lesbians, and there's claims they were flat-out groomed by trolls to do it...so Chris-Chan's the absolute worst hill to die on, and the snarts chose to happily die on it.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-11-22T03:29:45+00:00

Well, of course. You cannot lead in thought without destroying all people who think differently than you.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-17T21:10:39+00:00

I think u/Vulptex was pretty close to the reason being socially based; the gender cult is the first cult to catch on autistic people are beginner mode to get into a cult/hate group, because they want nothing more than to have friends and a place in this world where they belong. If you're a cult, they're easy to get with that since it's just "ingratiate yourself into someone's life, make them have those things, then by the time you introduce the crazy shit in there, you're their friend and they'll fight for you just because of that."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-03T03:17:31+00:00

That's just unreasonable.

Much more likely it was "okay. I got away with bullying that frozen yogurt store owner by claiming NB, that story's years old and the heat's officially died down- now I can stop with this bullshit."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-08T22:52:29+00:00

That's the same as mine.

All people deserve equal rights. At the same time, once a certain group makes it clear they believe they deserve special treatment as their equal rights, people deserve the right to call them out for this and refuse them.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-06-23T17:40:01+00:00

Never forget: Even if the other side has seemed to win, the second you give up trying to stop them you LET them win.

Just look at how people on Reddit are NOT HAPPY about this decision. If anything says "we didn't lose, we just ran out of time on the clock!", that does.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-10-18T23:34:56+00:00

Well, there's the problem- you think it's doine for "being interesting" or "pandering."

It's done for bullying- the knowledge "this character made [other] happy, and we TOOK them from you. We TOOK YOUR HAPPINESS FROM YOU. Now, you don't GET to be happy. And we can do it over and over again, WHENEVER WE WANT TO, and YOU CAN'T STOP US."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-09-15T16:45:36+00:00

Because all of society's gone to the extremes.

There is no middle path for anyone. You're either on the right, where you're a MAGAt, or you're on the left and a Wokester. No in between...and worse, the people closer to the center are fully aware it's a two-party system, a vote for a party closer to their opinion is a vote for the party that isn't close to your opinion, and all you can do is hold your nose, vote for the person who's view on abortion matches yours, and go home and have a good cry that you actually voted for that piece of shit.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-28T07:22:58+00:00

The same logic of that comes from the X-Men theory of "cure autism", though:

Storm, has cool weather powers and is worshipped in her homeland as a goddess for her power: "Mutants don't need to be cured."

Rogue, who's power is to kill anyone she touches: "...uh, actually I'd quite like to be cured, thank you."

Same story- it's never the people who have actual problems in life who hate the concept of curing themselves. It's always the people who either have very mild issues with the disability or, in all likeliness, know in their heart that they're faking it to be special.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-11T03:08:19+00:00

If a person who is attracted to children wants to seek therapy and work to overcome this attraction, they deserve the right to seek therapy and get the help they need to be cured of this mental illness without automatically getting punished for admitting to the attraction in seeking help.

...but the second you act on it and abuse a child, you lose all sympathy forever. Then, woodchipper.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-12T00:23:56+00:00

Um, eckscuse me, sweaty, but don't they realize how bad first names are in the climate? Someone could feel unsafe to have their real first name in their soul told to them. Like, I know a friend who's heartless cockgiver and fuckhole (as is respectful) made them use the deadname (I refuse to say slave name because using someone's deadname is literally worse than slavery) on their birth certificate, and didn't even realize that their soul's real name was at the time something different. This isn't even counting how jobs only use one name and still call them their name after some years. They got hired a few years ago- but their soul's real name changes each season as they got into a different series, I believe now they use the name Loid, which could change when a new series takes hold. Will someone please think of these people before saying 'just use their name?

Do better, Venmo me, flagellate yourself.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-06-30T13:49:21+00:00

Second person is totally spam! It's lubricated! Well, I'm phasing.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-06-22T03:25:23+00:00

Because they hate approved people to hate, duh.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-13T17:12:25+00:00

Of course, once that happens, Jazz's mother gets her real goal: She can cry and talk about how she's the victim because her poor, poor trans baby killed themselves and focus on how she'll spend the rest of her life fulfilling Jazz's legacy and SHE gets to be the victim and be important now!

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-14T01:50:24+00:00

Considering how many MtFs will flat-out say that the reason they transitioned boils down to "I can't have a girlfriend, so I'll BE the girlfriend", I think it goes without saying that a lot of trans people boil down to "I think the other gender doesn't get this thing about my gender that sucks, and I want to be on that side."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-10-02T00:46:38+00:00

Not only that, but sports can be some of the most transparent things possible- and individual sports like swimming even more so. If someone's cheating in an individual sport, anyone with eyes can see it...and in this case, if anyone with eyes sees it, it's a battle because if it's allowed to go without passing, it becomes "you know as well as I do I'm cheating, but you'll let me do it because I'm just that special."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-24T22:56:21+00:00

Because these people are so dark triad that they're through the looking glass of being dark triad to be PROUD of being narcissist/sociopaths. They are so proud to be narcissist/sociopaths that when they feel this weird...co-NECK-shin? or...em-PA-theee? thing they hear about for some character or person, well, it is impossible for them to feel that for anyone who isn't them, personally...so they need to add sexuality traits to them until the person becomes just like them, personally, so they can feel like "oh, no. This character is like me. No, scratch that, they ARE me, personally. I'm the one having all these adventures and these other characters are my friends and I'm so cool and awesome and totally not a loser, honest."

It's honestly a level beyond this and goes to "...these people are so self-obsessed they have crossed over to become evil."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-05T23:36:17+00:00

My personal opinion is that the really loud troons--the sort that used to feature prominently on TiA--actually don't want to put that level of work in, because part of their kick is getting people to acknowledge them as women when they so clearly don't pass.

Honestly, I just think the type of troons who were on TiA on the minor "would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard"- type posts were like that.

The really loud ones seemed like the pissed-off incels who were openly using it as their cheat code for "ha, now I outrank you. You have to give me my way now or you're the villain and I can ruin your life like you did all of us! Stand in line to suck my girldick now..."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-10-29T19:52:26+00:00

Don't forget all of this happened in 1995, when simply showing a realistic lesbian relationship was progressive- and in that period, the simple fact they even said trans people existed itself would be as extremist-woke in 2023 as having the President and the Super Bowl MVP suck non-presenting girldick on the 50 yard line.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-13T17:10:28+00:00

Yeah- this even bypasses the "death penalty for the mother" and goes to "if Jazz were to murder his mother, any person with a soul should vote to acquit."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-05-20T21:40:26+00:00

Yeah- it's hard to use this since more people are doubling down, as if they believe "nope, if you let us lynch this innocent white woman Emmett Till will come back to life."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-04-30T20:02:15+00:00

Don't forget how the snarts have gotten so hardline that at this very moment, the definition of how not to be a TERF is "if the person is not at this very second, slowly, lovingly sucking a girldick, then they're a TERF", which has moved the goalposts to the point anyone who is even remotely reasonable falls under the TERF banner.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-04-26T13:19:49+00:00

But "There are trans activists who threaten to knock your teeth out, and people who are so terminally online and riddled with anxiety they'd keel over if they had to ask the McDonald's cashier for extra ketchup. OH WAIT, THEY'RE ONE AND THE SAME" won't fit on a bumper sticker.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-29T14:31:35+00:00

With how impressionable young people are, if this trend isn't mocked ruthlessly or declared some kind of -ism, then expect to interact with people in person who move like that in the coming years.

It's too broken for that to work. If you mock it ruthlessly, the people doing it are so dedicated to their narrative of being the tragic widdle trooper who's fighting against everyone in the world attacking them they'll only double down on it...and if you declare it ableism like it is, they're good at "rules for thee, not for me."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-24T20:41:14+00:00

If there would be a moment to peak and go past "let them live and let live", it would be the moment when the TRA's made "Why can't I have sex with anyone I want to have sex with? We should be allowed to force lesbians to find me attractive so I can have sex with anyone I want!"...and the woke society LET THIS become a major talking point.

A full decade or more was spent on "consent is king for everything, if someone doesn't want you, don't push them or demand it", to get pushed by extremists as far as "if you show any romantic interest in a person, you're literally raping them", to let any person who cares about and respects women to go die alone, unloved...and then the biggest incel shitstains on the planet who openly use trans rights as their cheat code to get to the top of Oppression Olympics use this to get the incel's single issue of "I want to force people to give me sex" into the discourse of trans rights, and everyone LET THEM WIN.

The rise of wokeness and personal respect for everyone has for their fellow human being is a good thing, but when the woke side let the incels win because they wore a pretty dress when they demanded it, that was absolutely disgusting.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-05T18:43:36+00:00

Well, Bad Dragon has really found the market with big thick horse dildos. If you want to feel like you're being plowed by a nice thick horse cock but aren't ready to head to a barnyard and take that last step, there's not many places to go to.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-31T12:27:55+00:00

If they ban the code word, make a different variation of it. They can't ban every word it would make Twitter unusable

...you would think so- these people see it as "we can sure as hell try".

If the people doing this could ban every language short of clicking noises, they would.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-26T15:52:59+00:00

On the other hand, the apologists are easier to take down, because unlike troons who are built around their view of "I am what I say I am" and will counter anything with themselves, an apologist can easily be taken down by playing by troons' rules.

The apologist is willing to apologize for and enforce the troons' demands because they truly believe if they do so, it'll never reach their doorstep and they'll never have to do it themselves...so MAKE it reach their doorstep. The simple question set of "would you sleep with a trans person?". and when they inevitably say they're open to hypothetically dating a trans person, respond "Fine. Put your money where your mouth is and do it. I don't want to hear hypotheticals, actually DATE one, actually hook up with one" will leave the apologist helpless. Either they have to actually suck the ladydick themselves (note: they don't want to, that'd mean they'd have to sleep with an ugly loser and they'd rather die than do that), or they decline it and instantly, the troons will descend on them and ruin them.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-11T21:13:57+00:00

Not only that, but the fetish in Thai ladyboys/trans "women" with the penis still want "they look like a very pretty woman, but have a penis." They're not exactly lining up for "a neckbeard with long hair in his grandma's old nightgown" or "a guy who presents as a guy, but he said his pronouns are he/they."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-06-27T18:00:40+00:00

Exactly.

They should be able to allow detransitioners to sue, but at the same time, there should also be the "careful what you wish for, you just might get it" clause: if the doctor/parents can prove, conclusively, the detransitioner threatened suicide if the doctor did not let them transition, then it should count as the people being threatened into doing it and those people should not be held liable.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-07-30T00:50:04+00:00

When your whole cult is based on the holy nature of the sunk cost fallacy, all you can do to keep the followers is run with "you're already in too deep, this is your life now, all you can do is keep going deeper and deeper."

I'm honestly shocked they haven't flat-out go through the looking glass to tell people who want to detransition "if you're really this unhappy, you should probably commit suicide; you get out of your misery and you'll live forever as a martyr for our fight for equality, so we both win."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-03-20T19:26:17+00:00

You mean you're a stunning and brave train and your cousin's a stunning and brave catdog Therian, Hitler! Satan! Rowling!

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-02-18T20:53:42+00:00

So feminine. Much dainty. Very ladylike. Wow.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-20T16:50:32+00:00

I'd keep saying it as the rule of thumb and it always works: If you can safely tell your parents you are part of the group you claim to, you don't need the pride flag. I'm pretty sure your parents are aware you are black.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-09-25T03:08:10+00:00

Yeah, I give it until the end of this school year before a person gets revenge on a teacher they dislike by saying "my new given name is 'I'm[teachersname]andI'mapedophile.' My pronouns are [insert slur against student][slur]-self. If you don't use my new name and pronouns, I will have you fired for transphobia. If you do, I will have you fired for molesting children and bigotry. Checkmate, motherfucker."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-09-05T18:57:25+00:00

That might slow down the whole online harassment thing a SMIDGE. Realistically though, there's an epic fuckton of basement dwellers doing this shit for kicks.

Honestly, that's why this won't matter in the least. If KF goes down, it won't stop online harassment as much as it'll etch into law "online harassment is okay as long as you're on OUR SIDE". Do not forget the "Right Side Of History[tm]" has basement dwellers who love using online harassment as a weapon too, and they're emboldened to do it to anyone they don't like/who don't bow down to them...and they're GETTING TO WIN.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-09-04T01:12:35+00:00

Above all else this is just a dangerous precedent to set. This has sweet fuck all to do with safety, don't act like sites like KF and 4Chan haven't always pulled shit like this. This is PR and nothing more.

Honestly, I'd like to see what'd happen if someone were to go to them and say "I need KF for self-care, put KF back up or I'll hurt myself" and basically force them to flat-out say who matters more.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-18T15:21:45+00:00

Even beyond action/action-comedy, the bigger thing that needed to be learned is the same refrain: It's not ABOUT identity or not, it's about "Is this movie good, or is it shit?" It's like the Buffy the Vampire Slayer example we talked about yesterday here- fans are happy to support franchises with women/minority leads, they'd be happy to support progressive/"woke" media... AS LONG AS THE PRODUCT IS GOOD. Moviegoers just don't want to spend 100 bucks and 2 hours of their life they'll never get back to see a movie they know is shit, and the "shame moviegoers into the theater to see a bad movie" method only works once and they pulled it on Ghostbusters 2016, and now it'll never work again.

There's been enough successful "woke" movies that were also GOOD movies to show the answer is "Make GOOD MOVIES with diverse casts and people will see them", not "make woke movies and hope people will pay 100 bucks to spend two hours baaing at a sheep that looks like them or wants to have sex with things they want to have sex with."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-25T17:19:58+00:00

Exactly. And it's also notable that these people started with geek culture, then went on to LGBT+ people here. It's the textbook level of a high school bully. First you go after the acceptable targets of the nerds, then when you've been accepted for targetting the nerds, you can start targeting the social misfit minority groups, then when you get accepted for that you can start on "anyone who's not one of the popular kids", then you become the prom queen/prom king and can attack anyone you want.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-11T20:56:43+00:00

Good word salad, but you aren't going anywhere with this until you find ways to throw 'paradigm' in there. Offices love that.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-10T19:45:44+00:00

On the positive side, the example said "they'll mention the name of a trans person who was a relevant figure before transitioning", which is reasonable and fixes the "Caitlyn Jenner was the greatest athlete in the world when she won the gold medal in the decathlon in 1976" or "Elliot Page came to fame when he played a teenager who got pregnant in Juno" issues of 'these facts change dramatically unless you know the person in question is transgender and transitioned after doing this'. So, that's at least reasonable enough.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-12-20T21:30:05+00:00

BUT, you can't have drama without drama queens.

It may be a joke, but ten to one this all started because the professor wouldn't cast this person in the role they wanted to be in the campus play- or DID cast them, but it didn't lead to them instantly becoming a megastar.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-12-17T03:42:23+00:00

Honestly, it's people like this that will lead to a new issue that will be a reckoning on all sides; as now we're going to have to separate "the people who are detransitioning from regretting what they did to themselves" from "the people who are detransitioning because trans rights are accepted enough and have enough power that detransitioning gives them that sweet, sweet victimhood clout and they want to continue to be the most persecuted- and thus most SPECIAL- person in the world and use it to get everyone to give them their way."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-11-06T21:50:18+00:00

Very easily- hell, we've been at "if you're born white, and you're not so despondent that you happened to be born white that you self-delete solely so there's one less white person in the world, then you're racist and literally, inherently evil. And if you do this, we'll still look at you and say "here lies a fucking racist. HEY EVERYONE, LET'S ALL PISS ON THEIR GRAVE!"

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-29T13:58:41+00:00

This "the grass isn't actually greener on the other side" nature likely explains all trans people, since the same refrain explains why so many social misfit men end up becoming trans women...and why the trans women idealize becoming a vapid fuckdoll (where the trans men's problem is "men get all the power and get to live their own lives normally", the trans women's problem is "women can get sex whenever they want it and I want sex too!")

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-03T14:58:58+00:00

Exactly- it's not so much legal, as it falls under the same level of "if a rape victim murders their rapist, not a jury in the world would convict them". Which this also is.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-07-20T01:54:11+00:00

Same answer: Let pedophiles go to their therapists and try to seek help in order to fix this mental illness without fear of reprisal if they disclose this problem in therapy.

But the second they act on their crime and abuse a kid, woodchipper.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-07-14T02:11:23+00:00

Even beyond that problem, Hollywood has finally caught on that not only is pandering to the wokies so they stop whining going to cause the majority of people to not see the movie, but the wokies won't be happy either because there's always another level down that you didn't satisfy- and they're starting to catch on that the wokies will keep going downward and downward literally until it becomes "you didn't cast ME, PERSONALLY, so that means you're bigoted against me!"

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-07-06T20:17:25+00:00

I wish snarts like the one in OP's example realized that you can put an incel in a pretty spinny dress, but they're still an incel, and all your gal pals know damn well you're the type of Nice Guy[tm] who reacts like "you may pretend to be my friend, but you're not my friend unless you get on your back with your legs in the air and let me fuck you" and they're treating you accordingly.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-05-10T02:04:50+00:00

But you forget, Jenner's already been disowned by the troons because the woman who was, at one point in her life, the world's greatest athlete from a competition only men can enter and who knows a thing or two about men vs. women in athletics didn't take their side.

The only way the troons would accept A-B pandering to them is by picking an outright troon.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-03-27T17:06:21+00:00

The Wokeness Pascal's Wager:

Pander to the Woke, and those who are woke will be happy, and those who aren't woke have better things to do than get mad so they'll let it happen.

Do not pander to the woke, those who aren't woke have better things to do and won't care, but the woke will scream so loud that the whole world hears them. They are angry, they have a Harry Potter complex, and they're terminally online, and they will make it their personal mission in life to ruin your life for not pandering to them. They'll call your boss, your boss's boss, THEIR boss's boss, and go up the ladder until they hear a board of directors member who says "shut up shut up don't care don't care OH MY GOD I DON'T CARE fire whatever peasant they're mad about before their whining affects the stock prices."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-03-16T12:32:54+00:00

Otherkin are trying to get it, but Haven't the pedophiles already called next?

"Son, I'm sorry I tried keeping you away from that creepy old man who leers at you at the playground. I realize now I was just jealous...jealous of the fact that you get to feel true love at such an early age while I had to wait. Jealous of the fact that my parents were so selfish that they would hide from me something that'd make my naughty parts feel good until I got older and wouldn't let me have the liberating good feeling because they secretly hated me. Jealous that I can't be strong enough like that creepy old man is to feel this way myself. Go, run to that creepy old man. And all you kids out there, do the same thing. And all you parents out there, let your kids do the same thing, hold them down if need be to do it, and enjoy it yourself on the other side."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-02-07T13:36:30+00:00

Again- these people fantasize about living under a totalitarian fascist dictatorship because they go past "truly believe" and run screaming to "they cannot possibly fathom any result that is not them, personally, getting to be the dictator." They are fine with Stalinism because to that person, they have no doubt in their mind you can make an infinite multiverse, including multiverses created just by positing it, and literally none of them would have a result that isn't them, personally, getting to be Stalin.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-02-04T00:49:53+00:00

One day, it needs to be said. If nothing short of bowing down to them and giving them their every whim the second they have it will keep them from being suicidal...and EVEN THAT doesn't work; then eventually there's a point where you have to say "nothing we do is going to help you, so why bother trying?"

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-01-17T09:49:19+00:00

Well, that's obviously unfair.

The real thing giving people suicidal ideation is that most of the people telling them to do it have never dealt with a human being who isn't Mommy and Daddy in their life, so the suicidal ideations come from them going "if people won't let you join the cult, threaten to kill yourself and weaponize how your parents biggest fear in life is burying their baby, so they'll let you do whatever you want in order to not risk doing that!".

(Heck, it wouldn't shock me if a lot of the people driven to suicide were done so less because of this and more because of their groomers saying "they won't let you? Look, we need to keep our power by using threats of suicide to get our way, so we're going to have to ask you to take one for the team and actually do it.")

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-01-07T17:49:50+00:00

Also, isn't it scary so many autistic people have been suckered into this? I wouldn't brag about those stats 🤣

When you're running a cult, autistic people are tutorial mode for how to lure people into it.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-21T11:51:58+00:00

Again, there's very few rules in life I live by, but one that is always there:

If you're a man who is unlucky in love, and you consider transitioning for the hope of getting a girlfriend, before you do this, stop.

Go take a good, long look in the mirror.

Ask yourself "...how did I sink so low that I truly see CHRIS-CHAN as a ROLE MODEL to follow the advice of and live by?"

Hopefully, you'll either be able to pick yourself off of rock bottom, or you'll have the realization the world is truly better off without you. Either way, it's cool.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-21T11:44:02+00:00

The gender cult is the first to realize that autistic people are tutorial mode for cult membership.

They're so desperate for a sense of belonging and friendships so you can literally make them do anything you want as long as you pretend you'll be their friend. (In addition, because they're desperate, in all likeliness they have no one waiting for them to tell them otherwise, and they're more likely to say "you made it clear you wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire. These people care about me. Why should I turn my back on them for you? Truth be told, you should shake my hand- now I gave you a reason to hate me!"
They're incredibly trusting, meaning they have the two-pronged attack of "they'll never once consider that you have an ulterior motive with what you're trying to get them to do" and "you don't actually have to come through with what you promise them; they trust you'll give it to them so much and cannot possibly fathom you're lying to them that they'll wait forever if need be".
They're incredibly obsessive. They'll be the most fervent believers in the cult, the ones who would literally take a bullet for the cult, and the ones who'd give a bullet if it came down to it to get a tougher nut to crack than they were to join.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-11-25T16:03:27+00:00

People need to remember- it's not that they have no consistency; on the contrary, their consistency is "what gives me a chance to complain and demand special treatment for being me today?"

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-11-24T01:03:55+00:00

Seriously how have so many of these people missed the memo that rape is bad?

The Venn diagram between trans people and bitter incels using a cheat code to punish women for not giving them the sex they feel they're owed until someone gives them that sex may not be an exact circle, but it's pretty close.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-09-11T02:29:31+00:00

Is this like those kids who say that their boy friend kissing a girl is so gay or something like that?

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-09-07T02:30:19+00:00

Exactly. Part of a question about woke media is to realize when the people making it are being completely reasonable and being fine with that.

Fighting any movie with a woman or minority in it as "too woke" only gives the woke a point and makes them more willing to fight harder.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-09-05T18:39:23+00:00

On the contrary, I think they try to lure 4chan into their embrace rather than go after them, much like Tumblr and Reddit.

Remember; 4chan has porn, and AGP troons won't dare bite the hand that gives them cummies.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-26T23:35:42+00:00

But no, it's the rural guys who drive once in a week to the store to get food. And forced relocation is also good for us all, amirite?

Well, have you not considered that if he supports moving all the people in rural farmland to the city, he clearly believes food comes from the store? Checkmate, conservatives...

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-26T23:30:14+00:00

Honestly, given the fact that we're seeing both the left and right go to the lunatic fringe, plus the fact that the Woke weaponized people's politeness and unwillingness to be evil, I don't think we're getting to normal. I'd be more likely to bet in 5-10 years we have World War III, only this time it's battle royale mode and every human will fight everyone else to the last one standing, and they'll attack the mirror.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-21T02:57:56+00:00

Honestly, this is why it's best to say "Forcing cis people to give pronouns in their bio makes a world where the only people who are not putting pronouns in bio will be trans people who aren't in a proper space to come out and effectively forcing them out before they are ready, and in doing so puts them at risk from enemies both foreign and domestic [their homespace who'd hurt them for being trans AND the trans advocates who serve as attack dogs to anyone who does not put pronouns in bio.]"

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-09T01:43:10+00:00

He now has chronic pain and disability.

In defense, though, the Venn diagram of "people getting cosmetic gender-affirming surgeries" and "people who are LOOKING for a reason to claim chronic pain and disability and will make one up if they have to" is a circle.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-08-03T17:07:43+00:00

Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people.

Well, the first part of "portrayed as an attractive chad" explains it. You don't see yaoi fangirls consuming bara or bear content; that stuff would scare them. Yaoi fangirls want their yaoi to be two attractive chad-types fucking each other. They're the woman equivalent of the guy who only watches lesbian porn, and they both have the same logic of "it's two hot people I want to see fuck, with no person of my gender in it so I don't have to see someone hook up with someone I can never get; instead I can just imagine they're revving themselves up for me."

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-25T17:17:10+00:00

It is a big reason for it, but also the same as "the one thing Woke people hate more than anything is a person of their pet minority group who disagrees with them".

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-22T10:24:26+00:00

Wokeness has attacked nerds since the beginning and was built around woke crybullies going "join us or we will make it our mission in life that you, personally, never get to be happy ever again" until a lot of nerds gave up and said "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

Gender ideology has the double whammy of "gender ideologists are the one group that realized incels' importance in growing a cult/movement, since they're a section of society that is so utterly love-starved that the smallest shred of an implication of a possibility of a promise that if they do everything you say, then MAYBE you'd consider possibly having sex with them in exchange, is enough to make them literally take a bullet for you", and the ones who are angry enough to use their new priority seating in Oppression Olympics to get vengeance on those who wronged them.

Are you SURPRISED?

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-22T05:34:36+00:00

The first rule of being an "oppressed" group- NEVER, at any second, admit you are no longer oppressed. No matter how much power you have, as long as you always claim oppression you can get more.

Make no mistake, claiming you're marginalized/oppressed is the key to continuing to get recognition and rights, and it'll never change. Even if they can literally send the people outside of their group to concentration camps, the response will be "Look how much privilege these people have. THEY get a nice quick death while WE have to suffer through the climate change they created and die slowly and horribly!"

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-07-17T22:32:09+00:00

Considering Miller's also a former child/teen actor like Lovato, you can never count out the "the people in charge of Hollywood sexually abused them so much it broke their brain" theory (which Lovato has said also happened to them, which led to the drug problems, which led to the brain frying.)

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-06-27T18:25:31+00:00

Don't forget how the only people who care will never be satisfied. Hired a black lesbian? Were they TRANS? They were? Were they FAT? They were? How dark was their skin? It was dark? Were they disabled? Physically or mentally, you need both? Self-diagnosed or diagnosed? How many kins do they have? Can you prove they don't kinshare? and so on and so forth down to "if you don't cast me, personally, you're literally Hitler."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-11-21T18:21:26+00:00

Considering how many incels use "transmaxxing" and openly know they can claim sanctuary in the cult as their cheat code and people will demand exactly that? It's not a surprise.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-19T03:53:41+00:00

Even beyond that, it also needs to be said if it's the students voting, the odds "the teachers demanded the kids vote for this stunning and brave trans kween as Homecoming Queen" are equal to or even worse than the odds "the students are bullying the kid and they voted for the person as a cruel prank to play on them." So, there is that.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-30T22:26:46+00:00

No, no. The logic is there. You have to acclimate the kids to it. Let them look at genitalia of various ages. Really be desensitized to looking at them. And then maybe touch it. Feel what they feel like...ah yeah, that's the stuff. Now give it a taste. Just a lick, see what they taste like...uh, yeah, no, don't use your teeth you little bitch or I'll kill your dog in front of you...yeah, you like that you little whore, suck it you little dicklicker, suck the girldick or your family dies, do it! DO IT!...

...oh, sorry, I guess the quiet part was said out loud again.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-05T15:16:07+00:00

Don't forget the catch-22 there of: "there's plenty of fat men who have boobs and a beard out there. Since it's possible for a man to have a beard and boobs, this is now cosmetic surgery. If we grant you have the right to be a man, you may not get to be a HOT man. Pay out of pocket."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-07-06T20:13:43+00:00

Before I consider who's lying to them, I need to know: Was this post made by a trans woman thinking a thinner jaw makes them look feminine, an incel who thinks a more prominent jaw will make them Chad, or some mixture of the two?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-07-01T04:31:08+00:00

Judging people by the content of their character is bigoted against all the people who looked in the mirror and realized they're...they're just terrible. Check your privilege.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-06-09T14:26:04+00:00

Even then, the problem is the "grass is greener on the other side" factor. No matter how much you make it equal between the two, one side will truly believe the other side is getting something better, and they'll complain until you give them the same. [And when they find out it's the exact same, they'll complain you're hiding the REAL good stuff the other side is getting from them.]

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-05-01T03:01:20+00:00

Honestly, the reason I can still support the reasonable ones is the firm knowledge the nutters are Dark Triad pieces of shit, and if they weren't demanding special treatment for being trans they'd demand special treatment for some other reason.

They just cloak themselves in trans rights because it's the only group who heard them flat-out say "we don't have equality until you raise me, personally, on a pedestal and let me live a life of decadence where my every whim is fulfilled the second I have it", and said "yes, that's right. We NEED to raise this person on a pedestal!"

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-04-13T17:06:14+00:00

You think that's bad, imagine hooking up with a spicy straight/non-binary person, they claim "I felt like a man during one second of it" and thus you have to tick you had sex with a man and can't donate forever.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-03-30T01:47:42+00:00

More proof of the incels taking control over the trans rights movement as their cloak to get their way: they have raised a school shooter to one of their heroes because of their being in the group.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-03-03T01:31:22+00:00

Don't you see, though, haters? If you don't let them kill themselves, they might KILL THEMSELVES! You don't want them to kill themselves, do you? So you have to let them kill themselves or it's on your head if they kill themselves because you didn't let them kill themselves!

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-01-30T23:30:01+00:00

Yeah; if the left minds have a failing, it's that the loudest are the ones who cannot possibly fathom the revolution ending with any result that is not 'they, personally, end up in complete and total power.'" They're fine with going full Stalinist because they truly believe they will get to be Stalin when the revolution finishes.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-01-15T03:40:44+00:00

Worse, both the left and right think this show is terrible, and terrible pandering to the other side.

The real point should be...Velma is...it's just terrible, and they're doing the Ghostbusters2016 marketing campaign of "this show sucks. We admit it. It sucks. Doesn't matter. If you don't watch this show and love it you're an -ist or -phobe. You're not one, are you? ARE YOU???" even though time has proven: 1) People are absolutely willing to support diverse movies and shows IF THE SHOW IS GOOD , and 2) People have tuned out that marketing plan to "fine, great, we're bigots, but your show still sucks and we won't watch it."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-01-04T19:16:03+00:00

Oh, that's unfair. The people making this know there's no high level of gay/trans people in this grade. But, you know, if you ARE that means you'll get preferential treatment from the school, and you're aware how cool and special and awesome you are if you WERE, and if you're not that means you're normal and boring and evil and yucky and it's our personal mission to see your life ruined, and we have the power to destroy any hope of you getting into higher education and thus nothing but the hottest, sweatiest, and lowest-paying jobs in life, meaning a good life is guaranteed to be too high a road for you...and did we mention if you're straight, it means you have to play with the other group of people and get cooties and how yucky is that?

But they're not grooming people or trying to make it uncommon, no.

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-30T23:42:52+00:00

Possible, but unlikely: The cheat codes know the one group that's more of a 'this group can do no wrong' than trans people is the black community, and black people have the numbers/people are aware police brutality is fucked up to make it clear the TRA's just can't win. (This is why whenever they try, they merely cut in for "no, black trans lives matter".)

LyingSpirit472 · 2022-12-27T12:15:22+00:00

That's just unfair. The simpler explanation is likely true:

These sorts of people- independent of gender identity- are dedicated to proving that they are special, even when they are absolutely not. They just happen to flock to gender identity because it's the easiest way to position yourself as cool, interesting, important, and otherwise special if you have no skills or even a particularly sparkling personality and there is literally nothing special about you in any way, shape, or form. (This is also the reason for xenogenders and specifically why everyone has their own xenogender they give; it all boils down to "I am so totally special that I cannot be defined by any other gender identity that has ever been seen in the entirety of human history.")

If you destroy gender to the point that gender roles are no longer special, then that means gender won't make you special anymore and THEY will cease to be special, since they can't think of something else to make them special.

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