We need queer straights in media

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[–]ClassroomPast6178 29 insightful - 8 fun29 insightful - 7 fun30 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

straight guy dates transgender girl

Seems pretty fucking gay to me. “Straight” bloke fucks “straight” bloke pretending to be a girl. Gay!

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly

Two faggots dating each other isn't straight just because one of them is larping as a girl, lol

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

He calls himself straight to not offend his "girlfriend" or because he's not ready to admit his bisexuality.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Always has been.

[–]hugged 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Feminine guy dates feminine girl

This shit happens in dating games constantly though and trannies hate it. There's nothing "queer" about it, straight "feminine" men are shunned by trannies as much as religious boomers.

all the "m-spec people" will go nuts over a queer mlw story

That's a complicated way to say "I'm a straight girl and want straight M/F stories but tumblr won't allow that so I‌ need to queerify it"

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I suppose calling straight feminine men "queer" comes from the fact that most straight women don’t want to date feminine men and a lot of people suspect that those men are secretly gay anyway. But yes, feminine straight men exist. They’re called metrosexuals. It’s hard for a straight man to be feminine in the countryside.

[–]hugged 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Women absolutely want to date men with long hair and slender bodies, as well as softer personalities. Most straight women do not want to date "masculine" men in the traditional sense. There is just a discrepancy between what men consider feminine (over the top, bimbo-like) and what women consider feminine (more relatable to them, fashionble, vulnerable) hence why gay effeminate men don't appeal to women (and why troons struggle passing miserably even over text.) Most popular male characters in otome games are some degree of feminine, vast majority of them are more feminine than the average male. Sometimes you get the token muscular boyish boy character for those who love them, but the most popular male love interests in dating games remain more feminine than average. See: Shiraishi Kageyuki, Asahina Louis, Himuka/Tokisada from Olympia Soiree, Hugh from Ashen Hawk

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The number one trait which will get men who have nothing going for them laid is being able to chat for hours. Women love that. Pretty much every ugly poor scumbag ego always has multiple women chasing them had that trait. They want a man who is like a girlfriend not a man, that's a common female problem. Other straight men don't like those guys because they know they are a danger to their relationships.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can’t freaking stand it, why they need to call “queer” anything that’s nor fitting the “normie” standards??? Like, not all people are crazy about the conventional beauty standards yet not these who go SJW and praise outright ugliness. To any decent person it should be tolerable and normal thing that men can be soft too, show their emotions, etc. Perverts are crazy and are willing to call queer whatever they want to call it. I hate how they push the troon/queer connection to people who just want to live their life.

It’s the same case as when some people disfigured the “people can have all sorts of hobbies” to “a woman liking so-called-masculine stuff means she must be secretly trans”.

I hate them so much.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

feminine guy dates masculine girl

Happens a lot more often than you think. So many relationships in the media where the wife is more masculine than the husband. Also, metrosexuals and tomboys do exist.

straight guy dates transgender girl

Bisexual guy dates delusional gay man.

straight girl dates masculine enby

Well, assuming that the "masculine enby" is a rare case of a heterosexual man calling himself non-binary. Most likely scenario is that the girlfriend claims that her boyfriend is non-binary and the boyfriend is too much of a simp to put his foot down so he goes along with it.

bisexual guy dates straight girl

That happens more often than you think. You don’t notice it much because most bisexual men don’t want to make a fuss about their sexuality and they just date whomever they want.

feminine guy dates feminine girl

Non-traditional straight guy with traditional tastes in women? Yes, that can happen. Happens a lot more often than you think.

androgynous girl dates androgynous guy

Set in the city of Portland, Oregon.

Anyway, aside from the second one, none of these scenarios are gay.

[–]Datachost 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

That happens more often than you think. You don’t notice it much because most bisexual men don’t want to make a fuss about their sexuality and they just date whomever they want.

I saw someone on twitter today arguing that one wouldn't be a straight relationship. Legit arguing that two bisexual men would be having bisexual sex (whatever the fuck that is) rather than gay sex.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those two bi men are bisexual, but the nature of their relationship and sexual rituals is still homosexual. For them to have 'bisexual sex', they’d have to invite a woman to join in their three way.

[–]Newzok 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Queer means spicy straight. Always has, or at least since 2010.

Anyway, these people don't read real books.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I liked "queer" better when it was an anti-gay slur.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I liked "queer" better when it was a synonym for odd, peculiar, or eccentric.

[–]LyingSpirit472 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Is this like those kids who say that their boy friend kissing a girl is so gay or something like that?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 11 insightful - 9 fun11 insightful - 8 fun12 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

Well you see liking dudes is gay. So if your girlfriend likes dues that's gay. And if you like her that makes you gay by association.

The only way not to be gay is to only exclusively date straight men that despise other men.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

But then, presumably dating straight men who despise other men, by that, likely proves they're like the old married couple who stay together because they despise the other and want their misery. Nothing gayer than being married to a dude.

The proper one is the same as our ancient forefathers showed: It's not gay if you're on top, but if you bottom you're hella gay brah.

[–]OuroborosTheory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"you're into girls?! that's so GAY!!!"

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Well, actually it's not a bad idea.🤓 Romantic stories about some gender non-conforming, heterosexual couples would be pretty refreshing and interesing to read. Romance genre is stagnated for decades, im tired of reading the same overused tropes with hot milionaires, pedo vampires or some hypermasculine, aggresive bad boys falling in love with some boring, generic female character.

Though, there's nothing heterosexal about "straight" guy dating a transgender "girl". It's just a gay relationship with the extra steps.

[–]r2d2_21 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

gender non-conforming, heterosexual couples

The fuck does this mean, tho

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's pretty much the majority of people.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Funnily enough all but one of these is people who are failures at life trying to get in a straight girl's pants. Why could that be? I think there's a word for those guys.

[–]KnightWhoSaysNWord 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Non-gender-conforming type of romance is a nice idea, but I calling it "queer" is dumb in and of itself, at the end of the day, it's still "man loves woman".

If anyone wants recommandations, on top of my head, you got bisexual guy is in love with androgynous/masculine girl in Persona 4, handsome man in non-reciprocated love with androgynous girl in Ouran Highschool Host Club, and, depending on how you look at it, Ranma 1/2 is basically a harem anime where guys and girls fight over a guy who sometimes becomes a girl.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, gender non- conforming couples are already quite common in anime and mangas.

Problem is, it still very rare to non-existent in western media.

[–]KnightWhoSaysNWord 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, if theses type of romance start to get mainstream in western media nowadays, you would get a flood of advertisement telling you that theses romances as QueerTM and BraveTM, and even the people interested in that would grow sick of this bullshit pretty fast.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say 50% of romance books or films have a tomboy/girl boss as a lead character.

Literally half of TV movies havev the plot of hard nosed business woman goes back to her small town and falls for ex who's currently a builder/cop/firefighter but is really a sensitive artist of some kind.

Less effeminate men in romance stories because that's associated with mental illness and personality disorders so a red flag to many women.

[–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

She-Hulk.

[–]filbs111 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I thought M-Spec was a trim level for Japanese cars.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this is a weird rerun of the 70s' approach to "bi": you have both the narratives 1. "everyone is either bi--or in denial" and 2. "pointing out thata gal hasn't ever gone further than kissing another woman is bi-erasure!"

so it breaks down as 1. there's absolutely bi people and 2. it's being used as a vehicle to get brownie points without any effort or discrimination

[–]omegamissingnopneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosisexualgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no masculine guy dates masculine woman

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