You know what made reddit shitty? It wasn't the dev team (they were shitty too), it wasn't the website flaws, and it wasn't the banwave of censorship. It was the people. It was you guys.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T20:32:15+00:00

Edit: The thumbnail isn't showing up on the post but you can click the title of this post to see the screenshot.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Troon

These people are basically the main ones who we complain about who make the LGB community look bad, it's not a hate word, and if we're not allowed to describe them at all now because it's not allowed, then any argument has been dismantled (by your own efforts) I guess.

Welp, the TRA extremists have won... Good bye folks.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T20:16:47+00:00

This is fucking gold... Oh my god... How to I share this page

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T20:16:02+00:00

You should just give that 10$ to wikipedia since they always seem to need it and it would help more.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T20:11:43+00:00

If real trans people could, I think the extremist and troons would grab it and push their own version of it with louder funding until theirs was mainstream.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T19:49:00+00:00

I want to every time it happens, yet I don't trust the college administration. The only time they do anything about anything is when they know students will riot and vandalize stuff because of something. Which is why left-talk is so popular in college now I think, because the left has a lawless crowd of troublemakers.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T06:12:22+00:00

Yeah. I saw that.

I think she realized it was "realmen4realmen" and warped things in her head like "I am a real boy! Just a very feminine one. So it must be masc4masc."

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T05:16:09+00:00

Oh. I didn't see that.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T05:15:36+00:00

Right here. https://www.reddit.com/ (I'm using old reddit btw if that helps)

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T00:54:35+00:00

The implication that you should stay with your SO post-transition erases gender-based love.

Sexual attraction is about sex and not about gender.

Love is hard to define and very arbitrary to some, but love between 2 people in a relationship based on sexual attraction is probably not "gender-based" either, unless one of them is sexually attracted to gender (identity/stereotypes).

But my point, is that sex, gender, and love are different so I'm not sure what you're saying here.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T00:39:17+00:00

It wouldn't be cruel. It would be biology.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T00:33:35+00:00

You both agree and a basically saying the same thing, but I think you're confused about what he/she is saying because of (perhaps bad?) wording.

(Or maybe I am...)

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T00:18:33+00:00

Hopefully they leave my cat subs alone.

LOL

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T00:17:01+00:00

Yes. They do this constantly on right politics subs too.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T00:12:42+00:00

this isn't and never ever was about real transpeople.

Agreed.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T00:11:43+00:00

I had to google him and I found this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Angel

In the part of his gender transition it says,

Angel was unable to find appropriate help for completing his gender transition during his adolescent years.[9] He eventually met a therapist who affirmed his gender instead of viewing him as a "gay woman."

Sounds a lot different than his twitter does. Along with that, paragraph after paragraph it sounds like something a trans extremist wrote out themselves via the edit feature and put there to use his image for themselves to set up some kind of validation scheme. I wonder if he would agree with any of it.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-17T00:01:13+00:00

Yeah. Pretty much.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T19:24:07+00:00

Ah. Ok.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T19:19:16+00:00

Yep...

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T19:17:14+00:00

The fact that you NEEED them to be gay/bi/queer identified shows me that you have a fetish or at least an unhealthy fixation.

EXACTLY

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T19:15:00+00:00

Well do I have news for you both...

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T19:13:25+00:00

I commented,

"

a sex party (for men only)

(FYI 2 months on T and pre top and pre bottom but I dress really masc and I have a smallish chest)

Hm..."

I want to see what happens...

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T18:58:32+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/ggbus3/sex_party_dysphoria_nsfw/

Why does everyone assume screenshots are fake now without a little investigating...

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T18:50:41+00:00

and it was extremely validating to be asked to join.

It's all about validation and insecurities to them isn't it.

Now this isn’t a problem generally but I expected it to be more of a queer get together with men of all gender expressions (like our queer group) and not just run of the mill masc4masc cis gay men.

So much cisphobia from these people...

(FYI 2 months on T and pre top and pre bottom but I dress really masc and I have a smallish chest)

So basically a troon and not an actual trans person anyway.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T13:16:25+00:00

Except they're probably more like cult indoctrinated volunteers, pushing agendas they don't even understand properly.

But I mean, that's the political side. Even the non political people are very rude and messed up in the head it seems like.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T01:10:22+00:00

No u.

And forget you for passing off their shady little insult.

if you're immune to the consequences of another Trump presidency

Don't act like I shouldn't have saw that. I'll stick up for my self if I want to, like it or not.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-16T00:04:42+00:00

That wasn't the assumption.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-15T19:30:14+00:00

Tons of assumptions, tons of made up narrative, and tons of salt.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-15T19:27:31+00:00

These are some pretty elaborate assumptions. Lol

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-15T16:15:41+00:00

Get your left extremist crap outa here. You ruined reddit with that crap, and now you're trying to come here with it?

if you're immune to the consequences of another Trump presidency

Trump didn't do as much harm as Obama did putting "Obama care" in place which punished people if they didn't sign up with insurance companies who took the opportunity to price gouge and swindle people. For some people (The lower class, the left keeps pretending to care about) that was as much as 1/3 of their entire income. Some of us didn't have the option to eat, or pay for our housing.

In California, where the left run basically everything, this happened during a series of fires that PG&E started with their faulty power lines they didn't want to replace because it might reach into their profits. Those fires killed people, and destroyed homes. When we sued PG&E, California government wrote a bill that allowed them to raise their prices to cover the costs of losing the law suit. In other words, they hurt people and then literally made them pay for it. Then the housing markets' prices soared, and many of us were left homeless, while the rich and investors saw it as an opportunity to cash in, buy up homes, and increase rents. I was homeless for a year in 2016 when I voted for Hilary. Today I am thankful she didn't win.

So I'm sorry you think being white makes someone immune to the downfall of things when shitty political candidates take power and abuse people, but not because I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for the people you hurt with those statements who live their lives like I did. And to throw everything into a better perspective, I'M BISEXUAL AND FUCKING HISPANIC. Go fuck yourself. My father was an illegal immigrant. I get just as shit from Trump and his supporters as all the minorities, except I'm not crying an identity politics fit because something doesn't suit me.

And just to rub salt in it, I'm gonna point out that black lives only matter to the left when they're trying to win and election.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T23:58:24+00:00

(not sure if y'all count pan as a part of LGB+? but I'll add them here anyway)

Think about that a bit. There's 2 sexes...

You're either limited to 1 sex in your attractions or you aren't. Pansexuals are just bisexual. There's no real application for that term except in a scifi sex-with-aliens situation which in reality has yet to happen.

I mean, "But pansexuals are only attracted to people they like on the inside!"

...

Yeah... That's just how forming a good relationship or a solid attraction to someone works. I mean if a straight/gay/bisexual person likes someone and then finds out they're a shitty person, usually that attraction stops too. Further examining this, does anyone actually know another person on the inside anyway? How do you know they're not lieing, or that their personalities aren't an act? What would a pansexual actually be attracted to in that case, other than their own arbitrary perception, of someone who is regardless 1 of 2 sexes?

"reclaim the f word"

What do you guys think?

I agree it has no real meaning, but that doesn't stop black people from beating up and/or killing people for saying the N word, so if we're allowed to claim words then that's definitely our word. In my opinion, if I'm not allowed to say the N word in any context unless I'm black, you're not allowed to say the F word in any context unless you're openly attracted to the same sex. And yes, of course this isn't official, law, nor unanimously excepted. There's nothing reinforcing either, except what one person does to another afterwards.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T23:46:45+00:00

Yeah... It's like police who kill people, plant evidence, etc and the "good police" who have the power to arrest them, spotlight them, etc, who instead stand back and let it happen.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T23:44:31+00:00

They don't go by your definition though. They go by theirs, and so do their mob followers unfortunately.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T23:37:31+00:00

It amazes me how many people haven't seen that and say they "support him because he's not racist."

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T23:35:26+00:00

"All your lesbian potential is gone forever"

Like she's not gonna have 3-somes with her husband when she gets married... I mean, I might if I ever get married. (Shrugs)

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T23:34:09+00:00

I've seen conversations just like this happen and I've been involved in a lot of them, so... I have no reason to doubt this happened personally.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T23:31:22+00:00

"Ok I'm going to tell it to you straight."

"FUCK YOU"

"I'm sorry I didn't think before I said that."

LMAO Omg. Funniest part of this whole thing.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T21:39:35+00:00

Most aspects of gender are useless and could easily be done away with, this was a focus for LGB people until the current wave of trans people came along and decided that gender roles were cool again. Even the "enbies" who think they're breaking sex-based stereotypes are actually perpetuating them

That's exactly what's happening. I'm so glad there are other people who see this though. I came here because I'm sick of the crowds of people I know who mindlessly feed into it out of a personal bias to do so, who don't see the flaws and what's wrong with it. I think there's an order to things though, and the priority #1 (Separating ourselves) should always be the first objective. even though we often discuss things which occur around that subject.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T21:35:06+00:00

How should LGB actually go about dropping the T(Q+)?

Just by cutting ties completely.

I suppose if there were situations in which there's a need for formality, I think it should be stated in a way such a this. "While the LGB community expresses support for all victims of prejudice cruelty, we acknowledge our needs, interests, identities, etc, as separate and hereby distance ourselves and our involvement with others, suitably, and to provide clarity for our intentions and our presence. We define ourselves as individual and act to promote that message."

This would be a very neutral message which underlines and explains the basic point. After that, sure, posts themselves could discuss flaws in "gender theory" and why some might not like it, along with other things, and etc.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T21:19:07+00:00

I feel like "transphobic bigot" is a label to be proud of these days.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T20:40:21+00:00

It amazes me how the trans movement continues to be viewed in a good light, with how many times trans people have actually called me a "transphobic faggot" for not wanting to have sex with them or not conforming to dysphoric ideologies myself.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T20:35:46+00:00

I feel like that sentence could've been said accurately in many conversations at many points in time throughout human history. LGB people are always humanity's punching bag.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T20:33:23+00:00

University courses are also being affected by it, granted so far only in the social sciences.

I am in college and I testify to the fact that I have had professors lecture us about "gender" in class, which is completely irrelevant in terms of the subjects we were there to study.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T20:26:27+00:00

Probably. I feel like the whole far left SJW scene is mainly just modern more delicate "punk" style thing with the shaved heads, piercings, dyed hair, and grunge attire, while screaming "down with the patriarchy!"

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T20:14:53+00:00

I don't care what she said. These little thugs should be in prison.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T19:08:00+00:00

Good points. Solid discussion here.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T17:28:42+00:00

That is not mentioned in the source I had nor the source OP posted. Your source also doesn't say she said it though. Just that someone in the group said it.

I still don't think someone saying the N-word is a reason to shoot at a whole group of people and possibly hit someone standing next to them, but at this point I would be making assumptions too. We need more info.

But is it really right to shoot someone for calling you a name? Let's talk about that now... I have no idea what to say there. Like I would get it if a black person shot someone back then for saying it, because that person could be a threat to their life, but I honestly just see it as name calling at this point 150+ years later and since slavery was abolished... Non of these black people had anything to do with that and I don't see the emotional charge carried with that kind of reaction as entirely justified.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T16:01:17+00:00

Source that she called them niggers? Because that doesn't seem like what the issue was.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T05:20:44+00:00

Agreed.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T05:20:20+00:00

Same.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T05:19:35+00:00

https://web.archive.org/web/20200703213743/https://www.reddit.com/r/LGBDropTheT/

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T05:18:00+00:00

Hah! This is great.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T05:16:15+00:00

It's a REALLY shitty community of bad people. One of the first things I noticed about it.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T05:03:33+00:00

wtf lol

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T05:02:46+00:00

On reddit or saidit?

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T05:01:45+00:00

I always hate when people post these stories from bad sources. It just gives the opposing argument an easy thing to target.

Here's a better one though. Her 3 year old son is gonna grow up racist now. As far as racism today goes, I think black people are their own cause for it in a lot of cases such as these.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T02:36:22+00:00

This guy isn't wrong that bi people "like both sexes"

FTFY because it's about sex, and not about "gender" nor male/female stereotypes.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T02:33:02+00:00

Her argument is that since I like both "genders", and I'm in an open marriage, I should be cool with getting with her.

First off, if it someone is "arguing" that you should have sex with them, then you shouldn't have sex with them. This is borderline rapey and predatory as fuck. Second, this person sounds like a creepy stalking narcissist.

Was told I'm just transphobic.

Is this a thing that my other bi sisters and brothers are experiencing?

Yeah. That's pretty much the whole routine they do, and it's why a lot of people (for example, even just the ones here) are pretty bothered by them at this point. It's always "do what I want, think what I think, etc, otherwise you're 'transphobic' and some kind of awful prejudice person." They like to use the awful-prejudice-person tag as a way to attack people for things or get people attacked for things when they don't get what they want for whatever deranged reason they want it. It's just a bullying method.

Bad people have realized others don't like injustice nor bad and wrong doings lately, so they like to use the "I'm the victim" or the "I'm the good guy" act and try to make others out to be the bad people now, so they can manipulate the mindless and gullible to rally behind them in their bad and wrong doings.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T02:17:45+00:00

Seems like how homophobia views homosexuality.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T02:17:09+00:00

If that's the intended message it would definitely make it more clear.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T02:15:00+00:00

Ok but who filmed this? Was this his own video? I am now wondering if people there, who live lives like these, have technology and frequent the internet enough to know of saidit, reddit, etc.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T00:26:48+00:00

I think I get the thing here but the guys' grammar is so bad I'm sort of confused.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-14T00:24:33+00:00

I feel like this kind of thing should be spotlighted every time it happens just to put the whole thing into perspective better. I don't think people really understand what's happening.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-13T06:00:16+00:00

What ^ said.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-13T05:59:49+00:00

That fact that these idiots are constantly fighting with each other about what (they think) this shit means, shows that they don't have a dam clue.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-13T05:55:20+00:00

OMFG. Black Desert. Don't even get me started with how fucked they are at handling shit in this game. Their community is the worst fucking player base. Bunch of no gooders. Especially Velia 4. They just let those players be top level shitty.

I don't know if I agree with what you said (Although solid proof could convince me) but having a discussion about WW2 is nothing to suspend someone for. What they did here was tyrannical of someone with admin privileges.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T18:18:16+00:00

This will attract a more "normal" crowd

Or it will just attract kids, who are assholes online and have messed up mind sets of their own.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T15:16:11+00:00

Probably it does, because saidit uses the same code as reddit. But take this answer with a grain of salt.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T14:43:02+00:00

"Just because some people are missing limbs or have extra doesn't stop humanity being bipedal..."

FTFY

Great point though. Absolutely mirrors the situation.

If it is, that essentially means it's entirely optional. So no one should care how anyone acts/affects etc and that would mean that only sex and sexualities are important. The goal would be to break down preconceived notions of gender until they lose meaning.

EXACTLY!

I'm lost, the actual fuck is up with current gender theory?

You're not lost at all. Everything is wrong with gender theory. You're just seeing it.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T14:41:25+00:00

Probably too much.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T14:39:30+00:00

That's the entire movement. That's all trans rights activists do. Meanwhile their main arguments for their cause are a bunch of made up delusions revolving around their own dysphoria. And they act like they expect people to not see that or something.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T14:37:25+00:00

"Is to try to censor them..."

Is that where that last part was going??? Lol

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T13:50:20+00:00

Ruggus supposedly is also good. I've never been to it though.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T13:23:32+00:00

The far left extremists have taken over the left and think that censoring anything opposing the extremist ideology will help them win an election.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T13:18:53+00:00

Yeah. Same.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T13:18:30+00:00

I agree.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T13:08:28+00:00

I just am worried about other Reddit users in the future who won't have that.

A lot more people are aware of Saidit now. But also, I think people won't be using reddit much in the future. It's a really shitty community and the people running the site are just really bad at it, and that's why we have these problems.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T13:06:55+00:00

We were about to hit 30K in just a year and a half by comparison. People were waking THE FUCK UP, and reddit couldn't handle it lol

I know! I saw it too. I agree that probably had a lot to do with it.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-12T13:05:24+00:00

The "cis" term should be abandoned. It reinforces their intellectual position.

It's going to be difficult to win the argument if we allow them to set the terms of the debate.

They don't get to label the general public as "cis". They don't get to use the word women for transmen. They don't get to use the word men for transwomen.

I agree. Regardless, even with their own terms and logic, their arguments don't stand very well. I think when you make your point with their own terms it just points that more too. But you're very right there.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T21:12:30+00:00

Pretty relevant to things we talk about on s/LGBdroptheT actually.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T21:11:20+00:00

That sounds pretty nice to be honest.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T21:07:32+00:00

Is she ever gonna get charged for this? Are any of them?

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T21:06:45+00:00

I agree.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T21:04:51+00:00

kung flu

LMAO

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T20:11:56+00:00

This is not even the onion... What the fuck.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T20:09:23+00:00

because it resembles me situation in my homeland between 1945-1948

Wooo! How old are you? Wow. Glad to see people your age learning continuously, using technology, etc. That's awesome.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T19:15:22+00:00

This is a good point.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T19:13:33+00:00

I don't think LGBdroptheT converts people so that the crowd "becomes numerous" though. I'm pretty sure the reason more people keeping subscribing to the sub is that they also (already) see the problems and are glad when they find out there's others and a place to talk about it.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T19:10:23+00:00

^ This is the fucking truth though!

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T19:08:15+00:00

Really? That's good to know. I've never seen them though. (Though, I haven't used tumblr since 2013.)

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T19:05:48+00:00

As if YOU'RE the minority within the minority though.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T17:57:22+00:00

"Now all TERFs have is Tumblr"

That's where the trans extremist crap started. Was that suppose to be some kind of insult to try to rub something in?

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T17:52:58+00:00

That's not a reason...

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T17:51:23+00:00

There was so much more than that pushing me to leave reddit (The downvote censorship from crowds of extremists, the rude assholes everywhere, the crooked mods running things as seen on r/subredditcancer, etc...), but that was the nail in the coffin.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T17:47:51+00:00

Click the title for the link. The thumbnail isn't showing up.

If you try to comment anything other than approval on the video though, youtube will censor it to exaggerate approval, even though half the likes are dislikes showing how much people don't like it.

zeusdx1118 · 2020-07-11T16:52:13+00:00

Or they're going to come here and try to mess with things by complaining against the site, trying to get ISPs to ban it, or just trying to mess with it in every way they can.

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