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[–]zeusdx1118 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I always hate when people post these stories from bad sources. It just gives the opposing argument an easy thing to target.

Here's a better one though. Her 3 year old son is gonna grow up racist now. As far as racism today goes, I think black people are their own cause for it in a lot of cases such as these.

[–]Staf 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

While I agree that posting info from bad sources is terrible for arguments, most of the time they'll have a source they're using you can pull from. The Bias checkers tend to be biased themselves in quite a few cases.

Apparently BLM supporters are raiding the facebook page threatening and laughing at them. https://twitter.com/de_dust2Blepe/status/1282775224807829505

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That's just awful...I hope it isn't BLM celebrating a person's death though and it's just a few bad apples. I'm black and even I wouldn't celebrate a person's death.

[–]Staf 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I doubt anyone in an organizer roll or leadership position would be as stupid as that, even with the media running cover for the fuck ups they do. I doubt having a prominent member engaging in mocking the family of a mother, one of they're ideological zealots killed would be something easily smoothed over.

[–]maga_espada 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah. Once he learns that his mom was out drunk at 3am instead of watching him, and got shot after participating in a racially charged and alcohol fueled argument with strangers in which mommy called them niggers, he's gonna hate them black folks

[–]zeusdx1118 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Source that she called them niggers? Because that doesn't seem like what the issue was.

[–]maga_espada 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Same source as this entire story: The husband. He's literally the only account of this incident and even he admits they said it.

https://fox59.com/news/crimetracker/indy-mother-becomes-2nd-homicide-along-downtown-canal-in-1-week/

[–]zeusdx1118 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That is not mentioned in the source I had nor the source OP posted. Your source also doesn't say she said it though. Just that someone in the group said it.

I still don't think someone saying the N-word is a reason to shoot at a whole group of people and possibly hit someone standing next to them, but at this point I would be making assumptions too. We need more info.

But is it really right to shoot someone for calling you a name? Let's talk about that now... I have no idea what to say there. Like I would get it if a black person shot someone back then for saying it, because that person could be a threat to their life, but I honestly just see it as name calling at this point 150+ years later and since slavery was abolished... Non of these black people had anything to do with that and I don't see the emotional charge carried with that kind of reaction as entirely justified.

[–]maga_espada 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's kinda my point though. We don't know if she said the n word. We don't know if she said ALM either. We know very little about this.

Her murder is awful, and nothing she or anyone else said justifies it.

BUT, it's also not right for the right-wing and the conspiracy heads to co-opt her murder and make false statements about it for political gain. And then whine about it when called on it, or when it gets taken down for being misleading.

The only reason anyone here cares about this story is because of the misleading headline. That's why putting ALM in the headline is so important to them. Not the murder. The imagined motive for the murder.

[–]zeusdx1118 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good points. Solid discussion here.

[–]africant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

let's say for a second she did call them niggers. so she gets murdered and we're not supposed to still consider the ppl subhuman animals? that's why niggers aren't compatible with advanced civilizations