New Nigerian ivermectin study: 0% mortality rate as covid treatment by Birdynomnoms in Ivermectin

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You guys won't trust the NIH or CDC, but you trust Nigeria?!?

White House planning to withdraw ATF nominee by [deleted] in politics

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They totally ignored that. What got him was a racist comment.

Thought experiment: how a dissident could survive being barred from all major corporations by Ponderer in debatealtright

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also

Cooking oil (coconut oil has a lot of longevity; regular cooking oil can go rancid and should be regularly rotated).

Fuel to cook your food if you plan to go off grid. It takes a lot of heat for a long time to cook dry beans.

I start to turn feral after a week by AmericanMuskrat in whatever

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This dude knows what he's talking about. I used to go to pieces when I was alone for a week or so. Meditation helps. Finding internal peace helps. You need to find out that you are okay with being you. Find your own meaning and place in this universe without that being external to you (not within another person).

And do the physical things. Take a shower and brush your teeth. Go for a walk in the woods. Go outside at night and look at the stars away from city lights. Go for a drive to nowhere, a place you've never been before. Take a long hike. Work with your hands in the garage. Plant something in the ground. Do a hobby. Volunteer.

People are stressed out right now and need to have a release. Everyone is going through this. The sooner you find your own internal peace, the better off you will be.

A Warning Regarding Our Collapsing Healthcare Systems: Many Healthcare Workers Are Quitting or Taking Leaves of Absence Due to the Shot/Vaccine Mandates. by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Couple of points in the US. Hospital staff, particularly nurses:

Have quit because of terminal burnout / overwork

Have quit because of mask mandates

Have died because of Covid

Have had permanent injuries due to Covid, or are suffering from Long Covid symptoms and cannot work

Have left hospital nursing and went to work for a private practice or other less-stressful job.

All of this has led to the current shortage of nurses in the US. Now with fewer nurses to actually do the work, two things are happening:

  1. Hospitals cannot fill up to the capacity of the number of beds they have. They can only fill to a certain ratio of nurses to patients. There may be unused beds in a hospital, but they cannot have a patient in them because there is no one to take care of them.

  2. The remaining nurses are being worked harder and harder, leading to more burnout and more nurses leaving. This is a snowball effect that can only get worse as time goes on. The head of Alabama's medical system had a press conference last week and was in tears, saying "We don't know how much longer we can do this."

I've seen two postings for my area for nursing staff. They paid anywhere from $135 to $150 per hour, guaranteed at least 48 hours a week of work. No interview needed. You walk in, show them your credentials, get your paperwork filled out, and you get on the schedule. You are hired. They cannot fill all the available positions at $150 an hour.

Repeat: They cannot fill all the available positions at $150 an hour.

Over 800,000 Servicemen Face Court Martial For Not Getting Mandatory Vaccine by TheJamesRocket in politics

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's the deadline to get both shots done? Until then, they aren't facing anything.

Dozens of Videos Popping Up on Social Media Showing People Dropping Dead in the Streets from the CoronaVirus. Here are Some of those Videos. [More in Comments] by yetanotherone_sigh in WatchPeopleDie

[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now at 625,000+. How say you?

Also, Trump told the audience at his own rally that the vaccine was a good idea, he had gotten it, and he recommended that they get it.

WATCH: Dan Scavino shares breathtaking aerial video of Trump’s Alabama rally - by RightOnly in news

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So the person who got into a flame war with me over a year ago, you owe me a public apology.

Trump took the vaccine and he also told his audience to get it.

Science Can’t Keep Up With Virus, Creating Worry. Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought. by Orangutan in news

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Let's look at actual data, shall we?

Hospitals in my local county:

Total Covid patients: 1037

Unvaccinated patients: 963 92.8%

Partially vaccinated patients: 40 3.8%

Fully vaccinated patients: 34 3.2%

Total admissions up 475% over baseline numbers from previous years.

I'll take my chances with the vaccine, thank you very much.

American military helicopters have been filmed evacuating US embassy staff in Kabul, with multiple aircraft shuttling to and from the compound. The footage invoked striking similarities with the 1975 retreat from Vietnam’s Saigon. by Chipit in news

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The US employed 10,000 local people as translators. They were left behind. People who are thought to be US sympathizers either have to GTFO or they will be killed.

American military helicopters have been filmed evacuating US embassy staff in Kabul, with multiple aircraft shuttling to and from the compound. The footage invoked striking similarities with the 1975 retreat from Vietnam’s Saigon. by Chipit in news

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every President since Reagan has had some involvement in Afghanistan. It's almost as if you create an instability in the region, you create terrorists. Keep swatting the hornet's nest, next time will be better.

Reagan -> CIA -> Supported Bin Laden "freedom fighters" against the Soviet Union. When we inevitably pulled out, we left the Mujahadin hanging and this caused them to become radicalized and eventually turned into Al Qaeda.

George W. Bush -> Invaded Afghanistan to go after Bin Laden. What was left of Al Qaeda radicalized further and created the Taliban.

What will be next? We shouldn't have ever been involved there at all.

If our 20 year, $2 trillion dollar involvement fell apart in a couple of weeks, there wasn't really any long term stability there, ever. This isn't Biden's fault. This isn't even Trump's fault. It isn't Obama's fault. It isn't W's fault. But they all share in it. Whoever was left holding the bag, the person who was POTUS when we inevitably pulled out, got stuck with it. Musical chairs.

American military helicopters have been filmed evacuating US embassy staff in Kabul, with multiple aircraft shuttling to and from the compound. The footage invoked striking similarities with the 1975 retreat from Vietnam’s Saigon. by Chipit in news

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You do know that Trump negotiated the pullout, right? Edit: and he also signed a deal to release 5000 suspected Taliban prisoners in exchange for not being shot at while we were pulling out. One of the people he released (suspected Taliban ex-prisoner) is now the new leader of Afghanistan.

Home Depot plans to foil shoplifters with power tools that won't work if they're stolen by thefirststone in whatever

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Could be. If they do that, I'll opt out of buying them and shop somewhere else. Better yet, get a 25 year old drill instead of a new one. I have one that is as old as I am (50) and it runs great. They'll fight over it when I die. The old machines are much better quality and longer lasting than the new ones. They are designed to wear out and break, with no spare parts available.

Home Depot plans to foil shoplifters with power tools that won't work if they're stolen by thefirststone in whatever

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is said (by stores) that a lot of the problem is employee theft. I don't know if I believe that or not.

Home Depot plans to foil shoplifters with power tools that won't work if they're stolen by thefirststone in whatever

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This would be relatively easy to bypass, except that the BT authorization might be located on a board along with the battery management and other "smart" (integrated) technologies. If the BT device was separate and inline, you just clip a couple of wires and put in a wire nut to hotwire it.

Much simpler just to lock the tools up in the store. If you want one, they take it to the register and you buy it.

Home Depot plans to foil shoplifters with power tools that won't work if they're stolen by thefirststone in whatever

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They already do this at some locations. In my location, the actual item is located in a locker below the display. If you want it, you get an employee, he gets it out of the locker and carries it up to the register for you. You are not allowed to touch it until you paid for it.

This isn't rocket science and it does not require bluetooth. This whole premise is silly.

You guys are hilarious by SmartestGuyInTheRoom in SaidIt

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Bravo. Empirical evidence is not highly rated here. I'm from the "show me" state.

Fox news anchor says she is going to be blowing the whistle on media censorship. This should be interesting. by ReeferMadness in conspiracy

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Wake me up when something actually happens. Remember the Panama Papers? When they came out with actual evidence that rich people and corporations were using shell companies to hide taxable income offshore? What actually happened with that bombshell? Nothing. Except the reporter was killed.

Biden Imports Oil from Iran After Shutting Down Keystone Pipeline and Putting US Oil Workers Out of Work by scrubking in politics

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Okay, just so that we can clear the air just a little here... this is not 100% pertinent to the article, but it is pertinent to the headline.

The "US" (meaning the government) does not buy and sell oil generally. US companies drill for oil, refine it, buy it on the international market, and sell it domestically and internationally.

In general, the US sells more oil than we import. This makes us a net energy producer, which - to give credit where credit is due - began under Trump. But it could be said under Trump as well... "The US is forced to import oil! Everyone panic and blame Trump." Because we buy and sell oil internationally every single day of every year. Cherrypicking to make a clickbait headline is disingenuous at best. People need to think critically and not react based on a headline.

How many of us saidit users are there in 2021? by SambaMamba in AskSaidIt

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

To answer your question seriously: Not very many.

The most populous sub had 39,717 subscribers.

Many of those are bots. How many? Unknown.

I believe, without evidence, that many of those actual humans were one-time signups that are now gone. Reddit subreddit bans come in waves. Each time a big wave happens, it results in a wave of signups here out of a response of frustration and anger. Those people appear to sign up, look around a little, and then slowly trickle away when they realize that the site just really isn't that large.

You'd have to judge actual numbers on site engagement. Using the 90/9/1 rule of thumb, 90% of users are lurkers. 9% create an account and upvote and downvote and comment. 1% are content creators and submit new posts. So if you go by the front page, you have some posts that do not have any comments, just a few upvotes, and some posts make it to the front page without any upvotes at all.

So not very many active users. Using this post as an example, you have 16 comments and 16 upvotes. Using the 90/9/1 rule, around 160 people saw this post and 16 interacted with it. And this was one of the more active posts on the front page.

Saidit nearing Ruqqus in Global Alexa Rank by [deleted] in SaiditAlternatives

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Saidit just simply doesn't have good user engagement. It's not big enough to get big or stay big.

High numbers of bots posting and upvoting content to front page... check

Low numbers of new legitimate posts... check

Low numbers of votes on legitimate posts... check

Low numbers of comments... check

A few loudmouths (anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, muh freedums) poisoning the well and bullying the comments sections... check

Probably nowhere to go but down. I only spend a few minutes a week at this site now.

Papers, Please! Oregon Now Requires ‘Proof of Vaccination’ by NewsJunkie in news

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That's entirely within your rights to say...

But I had Covid-19 and it gave me all kinds of problems. If you are familiar with the symptoms of long covid, I had a whole list of them, such as a pulmonary embolism and a stroke. I am otherwise healthy and have had no cardiovascular issues my whole life. I have had shortness of breath for 6 months. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. As an anecdote, I work with a guy that now has 55% lung capacity due to permanent scarring because of covid.

For what it's worth, our 12 year old made the decision himself with the insight and assistance from 2 parents and a step parent.

So it's your right if you want to not take the shot and risk getting sick. There is a meme going around today of a cop who was anti-vax and said "I have an immune system, I don't need a vaccination". He died of Covid yesterday. The irony is thick but I feel sorry for his family. There have been a bunch of these including politicians.

I'm curious if you feel this way about other vaccinations you get when you're a child. When I was in elementary school many years ago, they didn't allow you to say no. You got the shot, or you weren't allowed to attend public school. This was for MMR and other common vaccinations at the time. How say you?

Papers, Please! Oregon Now Requires ‘Proof of Vaccination’ by NewsJunkie in news

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Agreed.

At this point I am just waiting for Darwin to take care of the anti-vax crowd. They've earned it.

Unfortunately there are also people that cannot be vaccinated due to legitimate medical needs, and the children who have not received it yet. My 12 year old just got his first shot.

Lmao by Tarrock in whatever

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Me too! Nerd cred. High fives Akali and misses

Presently, the top 10 posts on the front page are populated by spam posts by a bot, having an equal number of votes on all of them. There has to be a solution to this annoying problem. by johnnybravo in SaidIt

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Seems like coercion. Easy solution: ban everyone involved at all levels.

Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide during the COVID Pandemic by RuckusChan in conspiracy

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not following. Are you saying that Asians have less influenza deaths because more Americans are obese?

Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide during the COVID Pandemic by RuckusChan in conspiracy

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Anyone who studies epidemiology predicted this, they know it, and they know why it happened.

The influenza virus has a lower R0 and cannot pass and reproduce as easily as COVID-19. Therefore the masks and social distancing used for COVID-19 also work for influenza, and work better. Influenza can't spread. So it dies out.

Guess what. It's normal for people in SE Asia to wear masks during flu season as a courtesy to others. It's cultural and it has been for many years. And they don't have nearly as many people die of influenza as the US. Weird, huh?

This type of post needs to be nuked. A fifth grader could have figured this out, but it seems beyond people who are being deliberately obtuse.

Chauvin is found guilty, and SaidIt goes down the very next day... coincidence? by TheAmeliaMay in conspiracy

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry, saidit just isn't that important. This is not a large site with a large amount of user engagement. There are posts on the front page with zero upvotes and lots of posts with no comments at all.

white lives matter by [deleted] in memes

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I agree that it was orchestrated. Not grass-roots but astroturf.

The reason was that the Occupy (we are the 99%) movement was very dangerous. This took over a lot of the same people and distracted them with something unwinnable. The goal posts on something nebulous like this will be moved wherever needed to keep the group engaged and everybody busy.

Meanwhile the 1% continue to rape and pillage wholesale.

Boulder, CO mass shooter was a leftist Muzzie. And we all know that Muzzies gonna Muzz. by Tarrock in politics

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It's interesting, depending on the source, they spell his name "Americanized" or "Islamicized". Alyssa or Al-Issa.

Why are most subs so utterly dead (devoid of comments) and how to fix it? by justvisiting in AskSaidIt

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd bet that there are less than 1,000 people regularly reading and probably less than 500 active participants and commenters.

SearchVoat was a nice site statistic resource that daily posted total comments, commenters, comments by sub, and all of that. Were around 1,800 to 2k daily commenters before the Qtard invasion.

If I wasn't clear, my comment was aimed toward this site (and also poal).

This site's most populous sub has 39,000 subscribers, but very few comments and votes. I suspect that there aren't more than 1000 people actively on the site and less than 500 commenting and voting on a regular basis. I mostly lurk here a couple of times a week for a few minutes, then move on.

Poal is extremely small even in comparison to this site, let alone reddit. Poal's most active sub is a Q sub, with 800 subscribers. Most subs have more like 200. Other than the Q subs, news, and politics, very little active engagement with the site. A handful of new posts a day, and only a small number of votes or comments (other than the Q subs, news, and politics).

Voat had much more active engagement, at least. The Q people had a number of extremely active groups with lots of new posts, comments, and votes. They did tend to stick to those locations, but over time they chased people off.

Like I said, it's hard to get true numbers. Those are just my own anecdotes.

Why are most subs so utterly dead (devoid of comments) and how to fix it? by justvisiting in AskSaidIt

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

There simply aren't that many people regularly visiting the site and interacting with it. There were a couple of waves of new signups that happened corresponding with subreddits being canceled on reddit. But those people need to have a group of people to interact with, to comment on each others posts and other comments. Since that startup threshold wasn't met, they all left (mostly) after being here for a brief time.

The people who are actually here are outcasts of other social media (here and on poal and gab and parler) that have been kicked out or left reddit and twitter due to censorship and cancellation.

This tends to create a feedback loop, as some saw on voat. Only the outcasts were at voat, which means a very small group on a free speech site, and the really vocal, really unpleasant people tended to have extremist positions. As they grew more powerful, they were emboldened and they grew louder. This drove off more "moderate" or "reasonable" free-speech loving folk. Over time, this effect was amplified x 100, until only the true Nazis and scum of the earth were on voat. This has already taken over poal, and is beginning to happen here.

So the most populous sub on this site has about 39,000 subscribers, but almost all of them are gone. Hard to get any good metrics on the engagement each participant has on this site, but I'd bet that there are less than 1,000 people regularly reading and probably less than 500 active participants and commenters. Poal is even smaller. Since the Q people took over, the most populous sub has only 800 subscribers and probably less than 100 active participants.

You have to hit a critical mass early on in order to have a snowball effect of people joining and more people joining because there are people already there. If you don't hit it within a certain amount of time, you're not going to. And I think saidit and poal are both going downhill due to the extremists taking over the political discussion on the site. If you don't pass their purity test, they actively go against you with more than just downvotes. I had my life threatened on multiple occasions on voat, due to having an opinion that did not line up with the purity test. That scares most people off, and the site dies a slow death.

So How's Biden? by christnmusicreleases in politics

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, a claim was made about SpaceX in particular. I'm aware that they just got a NASA contract to develop a lunar lander based on the Starship design. If you are aware of something to the contrary, I'd love to see a citation. I follow space policy pretty closely.

EDIT: I'm also aware that they were awarded two contracts worth $159 million today for spy satellite launches for the US government (US Space Force and NROL).

So How's Biden? by christnmusicreleases in politics

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Again, I'd like to see a citation. Not just "he said, she said".

Tech refugee by [deleted] in Introductions

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That's the idea. It looks like a small UFO on a stick. You point it at the open sky and you get internet out the cable. The first consumer version they have out draws too much power for off-grid use (on the order of 250W). If they can get it down to half that or lower, it'd be good for all kinds of uses such as people living in RVs, etc.

Tech refugee by [deleted] in Introductions

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most major cell sites have a primary fiber, buried in concrete so that they are backhoe-resistant. If they are really important, they will have a secondary fiber going a different route, so that one singe fiber cut doesn't take the site down. Often this one is not buried at all, but just strung up on a telephone pole. As long as these are still connected to something alive, and everything has power, they work. Some remote tower sites are connected by microwave dishes and daisy-chain several hops to the infrastructure.

Tech refugee by [deleted] in Introductions

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MeshNet has major problems that haven't ever been solved. I've been following it since the early days. You have trunking problems between major far-flung cities. I live in the Western CONUS and my major city (30 miles from here) is over 150 miles from the next major city. Even if you could get the neighborhoods interconnected, you'd never get the cities interconnected. You need long distance microwave trunking and extreme high bandwidth, which requires point-to-point microwave dishes, multiple tower hops, and FCC licenses. No way is Joe Sixpack ham radio operator going to do that for free. Those dishes are HUGE. The equipment investment would be very large (hundreds of thousands of dollars per 40-mile hop) and the licenses are not just available to anyone. The spectrum is very crunched up and in use already.

My plan for the off-grid cabin is going to be Starlink, once they get a semi-portable unit that doesn't use 250 watts.

Tech refugee by [deleted] in Introductions

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I'm a couple years older than you, but similar experiences. First computer I ever typed on was a Timex Sinclair 1000 at school, then I used an Atari 400 and 800 extensively and learned to code in BASIC. Eventually I got my own Atari 400 and a tape drive and some game cartridges. Kids today have NO IDEA what it was like.

I'm at a similar level of burnout. I make ridiculous amounts of money, I have gray hairs growing out my ears, and I hate everything.

I have an exit strategy. I bought a piece of land with 8 acres of woods and a creek. It's almost paid off now. Building an off grid cabin with solar panels. It is just barely possible that my small investment in Bitcoin will make me able to disconnect from the rest of society and punch out. If not, I plan on selling my house in the next 5 years and moving up there, and working remotely part time. Going to chop wood and carry water and put my hands in the dirt. Fuck society.

They actually did it. This is disgusting. by jet199 in politics

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In the news today: Saidit residents cannot detect photoshop.

Sheriffs Given Powers to Arrest Feds Who Violate Citizens' Second Amendment Rights by MarcoPolo in news

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The Supreme Court seems to think otherwise. Read DC vs. Heller. It is an individual right, as are all of the other 10 in the Bill of Rights.

It’s time for mass civil disobedience on masks by MarcoPolo in news

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Trump really missed out on "Trump 2020" and "MAGA" masks. If he had jumped onboard with "Wearing a mask is your patriotic duty to protect your fellow Americans", we'd have been over this in May or June of last year.

It’s time for mass civil disobedience on masks by MarcoPolo in news

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How do we know you're not a Chinese click-farm employee?

MRC-5 is the lung tissue of a 14-week-old aborted Caucasian male fetus. by christnmusicreleases in Coronavirus

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True and false.

MRC-5 is indeed from an aborted fetus.

MRC-5 was not used in the COVID-19 vaccine. It was misidentified by anti-vaccine activists.

See the bottom of this article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRC-5

So How's Biden? by christnmusicreleases in politics

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

he canceled Elon Musk and space

Gonna need a citation on this one. I follow space policy very closely, and this doesn't sound anything close to reality.

75-100 car pileup in Fort Worth, TX due to icy road conditions - at least 5 dead by Saggy_Aggie in WatchPeopleDie

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I was in a chain reaction accident like this one, in the ice. It's just as scary as it looks. Drive carefully, folks... and if it's icy, just stay put. It ain't worth it.

If the Eyes are the Window to the Soul... by christnmusicreleases in funny

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Now do the one with all the black eyes.

I'm sick and tired of this by jykylsin2034 in Fascism

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Hear, hear! Localism and barter will help. Starve the beast of globalism.

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So just think about it for a minute. We had a couple of medium-small pandemics during the Obama years. FEMA stockpiles were depleted. As always, that was at the bottom of the list and they have been shortchanged in the budget department over and over. (Blame on Obama, Congress, Trump, whatever.) Trump takes office and continues the same path, along with dismantling the Pandemic Response Team and throwing out the pandemic plan that was started by W and revised by Obama. In the meantime, we're still low on supplies. Then we got hit with a real bad one, low on supplies and no plan. So they downplayed it until it got so bad no one could ignore it. Fin.

This really happened. Facts are facts. Those aren't my opinions. Look it up - this is verifiable.

Acting Sec Def admits he did NOT discuss deploying National Guard with Trump, but rather Mike Pence! by MarcoPolo in politics

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Trump may very well have been hiding in his bunker again. He was incommunicado after his 11:00 AM speech for quite a few hours.

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Sure, you are talking about the same stockpiles I am. Emergency supplies for FEMA. They call it the Strategic National Stockpile. They have warehouses full of everything from sleeping bags to penicillin. It is well documented that they ran low on a bunch of stuff and they didn't resupply it due to Congress not authorizing the budget request... for years. This is on Congress and the POTUS.

Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_National_Stockpile

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I understand that FEMA's stockpile of masks and gloves were depleted by the SARS and Swine Flu pandemics and were not properly restocked. Also for some reason the N95 masks they chose had elastic latex rubber bands, which have an expiration date, because they lose their plasticizer and then they break. (I had some of those myself in my basement from an old remodeling project... every single one of them in a box of 20 broke the bands when I tried to use them.)

There were a couple of problems with the stockpile. (1) They were not properly funded to restock to their previous levels and (2) They were actually selling masks and other equipment at government auctions right up until the end of February! I saw pallets and pallets of 3M N95 masks being sold on GSA myself. If I had had a way to transport them, I would have bought a pallet and resold them on the private market. This was a HUGE blunder.

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I totally agree! I have had enough of people who refuse to wear masks because of a so-called medical exemption. Citing things like COPD and other lung issues. All of those people should definitely stay home. They are not well enough to be in public during the pandemic.

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Did you happen to see the leaked report from the White House about Covid? I'm trying to remember but I think it may have leaked out around April or so. This was the Administration's own analysis. If they didn't do lockdowns, they expected 2.2 million deaths in a year. They kept that information secret, but the NYT got ahold of a copy and published it in its entirety. I read it. It's 400 pages long.

Not to denigrate what you and your family went though... I'm more worried about the long term health complications. It is looking like somewhere around 1/3 of all people who get this will have all kinds of things go wrong, from blot clots and strokes, to heart and lung and kidney damage, even innocuous things like never being able to smell or taste again. Imagine 100 million Americans with those complications when everyone has had a chance to be infected. It would collapse the healthcare system in the US just by itself. Not to mention the path getting there during the pandemic, just trying to keep people alive. People don't seem to realize that this kind of thing can collapse civilizations. It has happened a bunch of times in the past. It will certainly end in an economic collapse in the US, no matter if we lock down or not. The US is done. Likely, our healthcare system will collapse no matter what. That's my take.

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Regarding my joke: I have a bunch of family that works in EMS. All my family were firefighters, paramedics, ambulance drivers, nurses, and search and rescue crew. I grew up around "graveyard humor". All people in EMS use it to get by, otherwise all the death and suffering gets overwhelming. It doesn't excuse it, and if I offended you, I apologize. I'm not above making a tasteless comment. Other people would tell you to "Suck it up, Buttercup", because you are on an uncensored and anonymous board. I would like to think that I'm trying to be better than the average Poalock or Voatard. I fail sometimes.

Just so that we're all on the same page: I did not vote for Biden. I will never vote for Biden. I hate Biden and I think he has a really serious boundary problem with underage kids, and maybe worse than that. I hate neoliberals. I think they are dangerous authoritarians.

I've had people here and on Poal and Voat call me a libtard. I usually write in candidates or vote for third parties. I am NOT a democrat. But I am also NOT a republican or a Trump supporter in any way. I call it out where I see it, republican or democrat. He dropped the ball 100% on the pandemic and there is a reason it is worse here than anywhere else on earth.

I do totally agree with you about the untrained masses not following protocol. There should have been way better training on that. The way I teach other people is to put glitter somewhere innocuous, like on their steering wheel or a doorknob. Then at the end of the day, examine closely where all the glitter went. It gets everywhere.

Just so that you know where I'm coming from, I caught Covid-19 back in the early days in March and April. I am otherwise healthy and under 50. I was sick for months, I have permanent lung damage, and it gave me a stroke due to a blood clot in my right lung. I still have not fully gotten back to normal. So that's why I really, really want for this to be over. I don't want to be right. I don't want to see unnecessary death and suffering. I just want to bite the bullet, get through the hard part, and get done with it all. I hope that someday soon we can all go to Disneyland again and there will be puppy dogs and ice cream. When Trump and company dropped the ball (or worse, deliberately underplayed this) I got up in arms. When people say it's no worse than the common flu, it makes me angry. When people refuse to wear masks or even try anything, I get pissed. So that's where I'm coming from, just so that you know. This is a dangerous and terrible disease and I don't want anyone else to get it.

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Okay, let's go over that.

Gloves are used to protect the patient with sterile technique. Before gloves, Semmelweiss and Pasteur taught to wash hands in freshly boiled water for similar reasons. As long as your skin isn't broken, it's a very effective barrier against bacteria and viruses. So we are trying (a) not to get infected ourselves, and (b) not to spread the virus to others if we are infected.

As Semmelweiss and Pasteur taught (and this was VERY controversial at the time), there are bacteria and viruses smaller than you can see that can infect you and kill you. Handwashing was found to be extremely effective at getting rid of them. That is why it is taught today as part of the pandemic response.

(a) Wash your hands frequently

(b) Don't touch your face

Have you seen any of these instructions posted anywhere lately, say in the last year? I have, probably thousands of times. It works.

The reason they don't push the use of gloves is that most people don't know sterile technique to put them on and take them off. They'd screw it up and break sterility, rendering their efforts useless and wasting more gloves which were already in short supply. And for the general public, gloves (probably) are not any better of a barrier than their skin is. It's easier to sterilize skin with 30 seconds and hand sanitizer for an untrained person. Having 300 million people change their gloves 5 times a day is definitely going to run us out of gloves in like 10 seconds. (Unprepared FEMA all over again.) So they are shooting for risk reduction, not 100% perfection.

Like I said several times, no methods are going to be 100% effective for disease prevention, especially methods you give to untrained masses of people. This is just intended to be "good enough". Epidemiology just says that, in general, you have to get R0<1.0. If one single person doesn't wash their hands, then they touch their face and get sick, that doesn't take out an entire continent worth of people. But if 10,000,000 people refuse to wear masks or do any kind of social distancing or anything at all, it does.

Medicine and epidemiology are kinda messy, like chemistry. You never get all your reactants to react in an experiment. You never get 100%. But with this type of pandemic, you try for "as good as we can get it" in order to mitigate total disaster. And they have completely failed at most of that.

Edit: My own take is that we should have had a very brief shutdown in heavily infected areas of the country, and taught everyone the basics while we were at it. Been honest about the shortfall of emergency supplies. Geared up and had grandmas all over the country make masks while we were in lockdown. Then put up those plastic barriers and everything and practiced social distancing and worn masks. Contact tracing for infected persons. Encouraging people to quarantine if they felt sick. Those are reasonable responses. You don't have to shut down the country forever. BUT Trump weaponized anti-science deniers and refused to endorse masks early on. That was the exact wrong thing to do and it got out of control, fast. All he had to do was say "Here are some experts, listen to them. And buy my MAGA masks on my website for $20." He could have turned into a wartime president by saying "It is your patriotic duty to protect your fellow Americans by wearing a mask and social distancing." He would have easily won the election and he would have saved sooooo many lives.

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Okay, then, debunk my science. You have to use real, repeatable science to do it. I have over 100 years of empirical evidence on my side. The burden of proof is on you, or GTFO.

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The burden of proof is on you. I have a century worth of empirical, repeatable evidence on my side of the argument. If you think otherwise, you have to prove that you are right. That's the way that science works. So it is not my job to do your homework. I will expend 8 hours of research post a clearly worded statement, and you will respond with "Fake news!".

Also, to counter your narrative: No mask is 100% effective. See my statement above yours and read it twice. All we have to do is knock the R0 spread rate to <1.0. We don't have to be perfect. That's how epedemiology works.

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He was directed to do that by the Trump administration. So you can blame them if that is convenient. The reality is, they were unprepared and they downplayed the emergency so that the stock market wouldn't tank and people wouldn't panic. We have emergencies all the time and our FEMA and other emergency agencies get scraps. If they were properly funded and stocked, this wouldn't have happened and masks would not be controversial now. This has been a long-standing problem going back decades, so I blame ALL the politicians for letting this happen through apathy. But the Trump administration weaponized anti-masking by this series of missteps. It should never have happened.

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Incorrect. I already have the proof on my side. You are claiming that it is incorrect, even though there is a century of empirical evidence that it is not. YOU have the burden of proof to prove otherwise. That's the way science works.

Edit: I put in the oxygen / CO2 / Mask Mouth argument to let you know this isn't my first rodeo. I've spent months on Voat arguing with people who seem to be hell bent on their own destruction. I seem to be doing the same here. So unless you produce evidence that I am wrong - empirical, repeatable evidence, then GTFO.

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Not my job to do homework for you. I will expend an hour doing real research and you will call it fake news. Played this game before.

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Wait a minute. You responded to my thread above. Your grandfather died and you still don't think there is a pandemic? What about the refrigerator trucks of bodies in NYC that still haven't been buried? 400,000+ and counting.

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Fauci later walked back his statement that masks don't work. He said it to keep people from hoarding supplies so that our medical workers would have masks.

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Your grandfather died of coronavirus? And you are still anti-mask?

Let's talk about not only the flu pandemic of 1918, but also the entire century that has happened since. We have literally decades and decades of empirical evidence that masks work. Why do doctors and nurses wear masks when going into surgery if they don't work? Why do mine workers and asbestos removal crews and construction workers wear masks if they don't work? Can you IMAGINE the millions of malpractice lawsuits and OSHA claims if they didn't? I can. I used to do OSHA compliance.

This is just like the anti-mask crowd in mid 2020. "Masks build up CO2." "Masks block your oxygen supply." (But somehow they don't block the virus... which one is bigger, the virus, or an O2 molecule?) I literally had an argument about "Mask Mouth" with an idiot on Voat that went on for like a week. They just made shit up without any evidence. So the doctors showed that you can wear one, two, three, maybe 10 masks, and hook yourself up to a pulse oximeter. They did this on camera and their blood oxygen saturation didn't go down at all. One doctor did it and ran a marathon with a mask on! I actually own one and I offered to loan it to some of these people to prove that their oxygen level does go down. What do you know, no one took me up on it. Because they don't want to go against empirical evidence that you can reproduce yourself, at home. It would break their worldview and the delusion they have invested in.

If you are gonna make stuff up, have evidence that backs it up. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you believe that masks don't work, you are going against a century of empirical evidence, laboratory research, science and engineering, and real world experience. The burden of proof is on you to prove it wrong with your own empirical evidence. You can't just wave your arms and yell "Fake news!".

BTW regarding your views of what happened in other countries. They had strict lockdowns, good medical procedures, mandatory masks, and contact tracing. The US hasn't done any of that shit.

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So... if the USA isn't wearing masks and they have the virus real bad, how do you explain other countries such as New Zealand and South Korea which utterly nailed their pandemic response? The outcome of the US's response is on par to not having a response at all. The leadership was actively working against what we know from science. And the outcome is hundreds of thousands dead. How come we didn't see that in South Korea? They have a much higher population density. If all things were equal, it should have taken off like wildfire in places like this. Other countries had a serious response to the pandemic (after some bad starts like in Italy). The US STILL doesn't have a good response.

I don't expect that you will respond to the content of my question. Have fun believing what you want to believe.

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They should be first given a chance to wear a mask or stay home. The ADA says that you must make "reasonable accommodation" for people with physical disabilities. That does not give them a right to come into your store and spread a potentially fatal disease. "Reasonable accommodation" in this instance could mean curbside delivery or pickup. Contactless transactions are very useful in this case. If they don't want to wear a mask, fine. Don't come in the store, we will bring your groceries to your car in the parking lot. (I used to do OSHA and ADA compliance at my job.)

Then the steps. If people will not comply with the above, they should receive a punishment that would be proportional to the offense. Since this is a public health hazard, the level would vary somewhere between a small fine such as a jaywalking ticket to a felony drunk driving charge. And yes, eventually some people are going to have to go to jail, since they represent a public health threat and they refuse to alter their behavior.

Other countries NAILED this. New Zealand, South Korea, many others. The USA flubbed it so bad it almost looks like they tried.

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Believe what you want to believe. I respond with real quotes and real information. People who do not change their opinion based on empirical evidence are not operating in the same reality that I am. Have fun with that.

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OK let's take a look at what happened and why.

The upper echelon was caught with its pants down and did not have adequate emergency supplies on hand for a pandemic.

They were extremely concerned about people going out and buying every mask available, hoarding them, and then medical personnel and other essential front line workers would not have enough.

So they deliberately told people a little white lie, a misstatement: "Masks don't help, don't go buy them."

Dr. Fauci later rescinded this statement and explained why they did it, and apologized. He also stated the exact opposite: "Masks work to protect others, and we should all be wearing them."

BTW, what they predicted came to pass exactly: everyone went out and bought up all the supplies, and the hospitals ran short.

So either you are not keeping up with current events, or you are deliberately presenting misinformation as fact.

Now, let's look at what your quote from Dr. Fauci says about the effectiveness of masks. No mask is 100% effective. It's not supposed to be. The R0 rate of infection spread needs to be reduced to below 1. That's all. Then the disease will die out. No one has ever said that masks are 100% effective. They just need to knock it down. Epedemiologists have known this for over 100 years. We have literally over a century of empirical evidence that masks work.

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That's the whole point.

You can be spreading the virus before you are showing symptoms.

The mask is to keep YOU from making OTHERS sick, not to protect YOU.

THEIR mask is to protect YOU.

How hard is this? If everyone wore a mask, we'd have been done with this a long time ago.

The Waco siege was a 51-day standoff between the US government and the Branch Davidians (a religious sect led by David Koresh), near Waco, Texas in 1993. The incident resulted in the deaths of many citizens including pregnant women and children. What say you? by [deleted] in whatever

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I lived in northern Idaho during the siege on Ruby Ridge.

Everyone should be taught exactly what went down. First, they set Randy Weaver up in a sting. Then, they shot his dog, his pregnant wife, and his son. He was ultimately acquitted and received a $3m settlement for them killing his family.

The ATF should be disbanded.

A whole bunch of shady stuff happened under Bill Clinton and Attorney General Janet Reno including Ruby Ridge, Waco, Elian Gonzales, and a whole lot more.

The national debt tops $26 trillion for the first time as the federal government ramps up coronavirus relief spending by special2 in news

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Ramps "up"? Is this the same government that is poised to shut itself down because Congress can't agree on a budget?

US Police Have Killed Over 1,600% More Citizens Than Mass Shooters Since 2015 by Drewski in PoliceMisconduct

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Careful, you'll piss off the bootlickers.

CDC: Less Deaths In 2020 than 2019 or 2018 by christnmusicreleases in news

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Yep. What is the source of your data, OP? It's bullshit, that's what it is.

Thank you for posting an actual link to actual data.

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I'm saying something more fundamental. Some people are locked out of the banking system entirely, due to bankruptcy, a high number of bounced checks, fraud, or other reasons. He might not be able to function in society. If he used kraken or even did a F2F deal, he'd still have to go to the bank at some point and deal with that.

Supposition. We may never know.

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Is... it possible that he doesn't know? Or doesn't know how to turn bitcoin into cash? Or doesn't have access to the wallet any more?

The only feasible reasons I could think of.

Wait, thought of one more. He had a lot of payment processors refuse to do business with him. Maybe he's blacklisted from the ability to do banking and somehow cannot turn bitcoin into money.

Moderator of r/Pics remove picture of Aaron Swartz in post celebrating Free Speech and his memory. Reddit is erasing him. by Orangutan in pics

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Well, as they say, it's a free country. If you don't like it, make your own platform... Oh, wait.

Vietnamese police seize 345,000 used condoms ready to be sold as new, reports say by kesh in news

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It's Vietnam. Probably someone cleans up the local brothels and empties their trash.

Reddit on Kamala Harris VP Pick by Tarrock in MeanwhileOnReddit

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Yeah, they probably don't have their marching orders yet. It usually takes a day or so to kick in with the talking points.

"Tone Deaf" made me lol and cringe. I would have held my nose and voted Democrat if they literally would have picked anyone else but these two.

Why don't you all put your $$$ where your mouth is? by Lilith_Fair in whatever

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I used to be a supporter until the crazies moved in. Don't come on here much any more. No point.

Dozens of Videos Popping Up on Social Media Showing People Dropping Dead in the Streets from the CoronaVirus. Here are Some of those Videos. [More in Comments] by yetanotherone_sigh in WatchPeopleDie

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All right, fair enough. You are entitled to your own thoughts.

Come and see me if you have a change of opinion.

A massive explosion has just hit Beirut, Lebanon (video) by magnora7 in WorldNews

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Major General Ibrahim, Director General of Lebanese Intelligence has stated that the authorities confiscated a large cache of Sodium Nitrate months ago that was supposed to be destroyed has exploded due to fire in the inventory at Beirut port.

https://twitter.com/miqazi/status/1290697134275207173?s=19

I know this site is for free speech and all but please cut the antisemitism and conspiracy theory bs from the front page. It's not a good look and is going to drive people away from trying the site. by Locke in SaidIt

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I am participating. I made a thoughful, well-reasoned statement. I upvote thoughtful, well-reasoned statements. I mod a subverse here and post new content to it that is interesting and educational. Calling every single person a concern troll is unhelpful.

I know this site is for free speech and all but please cut the antisemitism and conspiracy theory bs from the front page. It's not a good look and is going to drive people away from trying the site. by Locke in SaidIt

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Unfortunately it appears that reddit has kicked out a lot of these people (serious racists, white nationalists, and anti-semitists).

They migrated to voat and took it over. Now voat is just an utter cesspool.

This platform was pretty good and had useful and thoughtful discussion, the way reddit did 10 years ago.

I don't know what the solution is, but it appears that a completely free-speech platform will inevitably go to the same path that voat did. This is well-poisoning. You have 3% of the worst of the worst... loud-mouth and awful human beings. And you give them a loudspeaker.

Two girls livestreaming fatal car accident (accident happens at 10:35, drived died, passenger survived) reddit xpost by kissfan7 in WatchPeopleDie

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Happens way too often. Youth, inexperience, and a feeling of being indestructible. More often fueled by testosterone and daring in young men.

I lost a friend in junior high that stole their parents car and went on a joyride. As I recall, her and her friend had also gotten some alcohol somewhere. They were going in excess of 100mph when the car hit a bump and they lost control. It rolled and killed her. She was 14 years old.

People usually slow down and become more cautious as they get older. Usually. Often after they've been injured in a serious car crash. Sometimes they don't make it that long.

Cernovich on Twitter: "Twitters admin panel has a button to “blacklist trends.” So yeah twitter lied, they manually edit trends. The ones advocating violence are kept up. By their choice. They aren’t a platform. They are a publisher. Abolish Section 230." by christnmusicreleases in propaganda

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The gotcha here is that Twitter is claiming that it's not a publisher, and thus it's immune if one of the Twitter users posts something bad like child porn. But it is adjusting what people see, which throws that argument out the window.

Dozens of Videos Popping Up on Social Media Showing People Dropping Dead in the Streets from the CoronaVirus. Here are Some of those Videos. [More in Comments] by yetanotherone_sigh in WatchPeopleDie

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"Seek help"? lol

Have fun with your delusions.

I'm so grateful to find a reddit clone that isn't a Zionist shithole by christnmusicreleases in SaidIt

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Voat.

LOL /s

Worker Gets on Crushing Machine, Gets Crushed by Oneda in WatchPeopleDie

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Truthful answer: the worker was probably trying to clear a jam or remove something stuck inside the machine. The machine lacked safety interlocks to shut off, and the (Chinese) worker probably lacked the authority to shut it off manually, or would have gotten in trouble for slowing down production. Also in effect is the lackadaisical way they handle safety in Chinese factories. Safety is top-down from the management, and ends up in the hands of the individual workers. If they haven't been properly trained, they aren't going to have a safe workplace.

TIL the founder of the Chinese Communist Party, Mao Zedong, was responsible for the deaths of over 65 million people, making him the most prolific killer of the 20th century. by aThievingStableboy in TIL

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If you look at governmenticide, it appears that over 100 million people were killed by their own governments in the 20th century.

TIL the founder of the Chinese Communist Party, Mao Zedong, was responsible for the deaths of over 65 million people, making him the most prolific killer of the 20th century. by aThievingStableboy in TIL

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Most of the really rich have estates in New Zealand or South America. Uruguay and Paraguay and other places.

Dozens of Videos Popping Up on Social Media Showing People Dropping Dead in the Streets from the CoronaVirus. Here are Some of those Videos. [More in Comments] by yetanotherone_sigh in WatchPeopleDie

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So let me ask you to think about something.

If you don't believe the case fatality rate and you don't believe the number of people who are listed as if they died of coronavirus? Fine. Let's just say they made it all up.

Now, instead, let's take a look at the overall death rate. The rate of dying from everything combined.

That rate has gone up. Way up. It looks like about 14%. Everything else is remaining about the same. But something, we'll call it the X factor, is making the extra people die. What is the X factor?

Now here's another way to think about it. The state of Tennessee isn't doing a very good job of counting coronavirus deaths. I think we can agree that they have a political motivation for people to die of "something else that isn't coronavirus". The Tennessee Health Department lists these people under a category called P&I (Pneumonia & Influenza). Suddenly, when coronavirus started taking off, the P&I deaths rose dramatically. Right now it's 600% higher than an average year. These are not people who died of pneumonia or influenza. They actually died of coronavirus, but they were not properly counted, because the politicians in Tennessee don't want to look bad.

I have been looking at this information from a lot of different angles, and all of it is bad. And, even worse, politicians in states like Tennessee and Florida and other places are deliberately trying to hide and obfuscate information.

Example: When coronavirus first hit, the general public was told that masks don't work. If you've watched the press conferences lately, Dr. Fauci reversed that. He told us that the public was deliberately lied to, because there were not enough real masks to go around and they didn't have enough emergency supplies for doctors and nurses. They didn't want the general public hoarding them and making the shortage worse. You can watch the press conference yourself. Masks work, but we were told that they didn't, because the emergency services were supposed to have giant warehouses full of them, but they didn't. They were never replenished from the last time we had an emergency. Your own government told you disinformation.

If you look at this data with a neutral third-party's point of view, it does not paint a good picture at all.

The recent meta-analysis of data says that coronavirus deaths are actually underreported. Probably about 160,000 right now. On track for 206,000+ by Election Day.

I realize I'm wasting my time talking to you here, but maybe you will come back to this thread in a year and realize that I was right.

Community was ahead of its time by neovulcan in funny

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This scene was what sold me on the series.