Dozens of Videos Popping Up on Social Media Showing People Dropping Dead in the Streets from the CoronaVirus. Here are Some of those Videos.
1 day ago by yetanotherone_sigh to /s/WatchPeopleDie from self.WatchPeopleDie
2 Killed, 2 Wounded In Chicago Gas Station Shooting by mossberg91 in WatchPeopleDie
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 day ago (0 children)
Meh, pants... shoes...
What I am waiting for is a video where someone loses their hip waders!
I think once would be enough for me. I don't think I'd go back there AFTER I WAS SHOT THERE THE FIRST TIME.
How many times has this man been shot?!?
“The age of consent should be lowered. It certainly should not be as high as 17 or 16. Reasonable people can disagree over whether it should be as low as 14. Fifteen would seem like an appropriate compromise.” wrote in 1997. Met Jeffrey Epstein in 1996. And this is Trump's Lawyer, lol. by Jesus in conspiracy
RBG has said much the same thing.
Woman gets trapped in parking carousel by magnora7 in gifs
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 days ago (0 children)
She's fortunate to have lived through that. It could have ended much differently.
They might start with a drop-down barrier like the ones they use on draw bridges.
‘Nobody likes him’: Hillary Clinton rips Bernie Sanders and accuses him of supporting sexist attacks. In a new Hulu docuseries, Clinton unloads on Sanders: “He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done.” by Chipit in USPolitics
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If you poll each state on how well they like their Senators, he has consistently come in first place for a long time.
I can't speak to what Bernie has or has not done as a Senator, but Hillary's two accomplishments as Senator: she co-authored a bill to name two Post Offices.
People No Longer Believe Working Hard Will Lead To A Better Life - According To A Long-Running Global Survey A Growing Sense Of Inequality Is Undermining Trust In Both Society's Institutions And Capitalism by EndlessSunflowers in LateStageCapitalism
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 days ago (0 children)
Exactly. The guy who was in charge of fucking up Boeing got a $6m golden parachute and shown to the door. And that's small potatoes. I can think of half a dozen off hand. The guy in charge of Sears. The gal in charge of HP. The guy in charge of Home Depot. And those people just got rewarded for screwing the company out of decades of good clean operations for the sake of a few quarters of raping and pillaging the company for profits. This doesn't speak to the thousands of CEOs who do this on a daily basis who do NOT crash and burn the company. They just fuck their workers over for another quarter of a percent this year.
Well, I've worked in the corporate ladder for decades. It used to be true: You could be ambitious and work hard, and you'd make a pretty good career. You'd never be a millionaire, but you might be a middle manager. Now all that has changed. If you get your work done, they just pile more on. No raises. No benefits. No hope. Just work until you die and hope you don't run out of money or medicine in the meantime.
In that same vein, they downsize corporations constantly and just pile on more responsibilities to their existing people. Why hire someone else when we can make someone here do it for the same amount that they are already earning?
A lot of widespread mentality that we are all just slaves. And we are waking up to that fact, and dissatisfied about it.
Puerto Rico Residents Outraged After Discovering Democrats Hid Unused Aid For Hurricane Relief Sent By President Trump by Trump_WG1WGA in news
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 days ago (0 children)
Color me surprised.
/r/videos locks thread showing Trump was right about Puerto Rico by Chipit in MeanwhileOnReddit
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Raise your hand if you're surprised. Reddit is not a neutral platform. They cannot allow anything that shows the President in a positive light, or even "you know, maybe the guy was right."
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 4 days ago (0 children)
I know. I was trying to point out that Chinese society absolutely does not care about anything but profit and screwing over other people. Human safety is WAYYY down that list.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 5 days ago (0 children)
Old Man Bill knows what's up. He got down and hid in the corner away from the door.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun - 5 days ago* (0 children)
There are a whole lot of remarkable things happening here.
That woman is too stupid to live. If she survived this, she will step in front of a bus soon anyway. Some people are just too self absorbed to be able to function in society.
China as a society does not value human life in the slightest. There is no way for the parking garage to sense the presence of a loose human being in its bowels. Even a car wash has motion detectors and electric eyes in the US. It should be interlocked all to heck and gone. The dropping elevator platform should sense that nothing is on it or around it before moving, and a moving barrier or gate should drop down around its perimeter before it moves. Likewise, before the conveyor belt launches the car onto the elevator, it should also check for the presence of a rogue human.
There are people who cannot take care of themselves and have no sense of self preservation. What if that was a toddler or an elderly person who couldn't move fast or think things through? What if it was someone in a wheelchair? What if it was your family dog?
The combination of all of these things points to deadly outcomes once in a while. They will continue for as long as Chinese culture accepts this "dog eat dog" world with no consequence to what we would consider major safety violations in everyday life.
Anyone know if she died?
Feds Seizing High-End Night-Vision Tubes. Feds also jamming GPS in test exercises ending Jan 24, will disable all GPS systems in a wide area of the US for several hours a day by magnora7 in videos
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 6 days ago (0 children)
I saw night vision for sale in the gun case at WalMart yesterday. This is definitely a made up rumor. Then you have to look at who is doing it and why. Your reason seems plausible.
Restaurant Charges Extra Every Time You Ask a Stupid Question to Waiters by jingamerz in funny
Ironically a lot of news articles are written by a bot now.
The padding you see is just an attempt to keep eyeballs on the page longer, so that you are more likely to click on other articles (more pageviews) or click on ads.
Worker Tries to Fix Stone Crushing Machine, Gets Crushed Instead by Oneda in WatchPeopleDie
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 6 days ago* (0 children)
Or maybe a guard, or maybe some training... "Do not jump into machine to attempt to clear jams."
They always said the rules / warning labels in the military had at least one death per safety warning. For each "do not look down the barrel of a loaded rifle" there was one idiot that died doing it first.
Why the fuck doesn’t this stuff happen when I go on flights ??? by Lowkey2017 in CringeAnarchy
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 7 days ago (0 children)
I have definitely dated some bunny boilers in my time. Didn't know the association with Grave's Disease. Actually one of the nyphomaniacs that I dated, turned out she was diagnosed with it years later.
Everyone has their Price by Tarrock in politics
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 8 days ago (0 children)
Sure. But I look at people's track record. Bernie has been railing against billionaires for literally decades. I voted for him. I wrote him in after the DNC screwed him. I'd rather throw my vote away than vote for Hilldawg. And I wasn't going to vote for Trump.
I think the only way to know for sure is to go to each county's GIS database in Vermont and try to find out how many houses they actually currently own. A lot of times the news reports when some politician bought another "mansion" in a hit piece, but they don't report that they sold two other houses. Hard to find that data.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 9 days ago (0 children)
The only other data point I can bring into this conversation:
Almost all Congressmen have two houses. One in D.C. and one in their home state. They commute back and forth quite a bit. I believe the current understanding is that Bernie has three. One in D.C., one in Vermont, and then they bought the cabin as a vacation home when her parents died and they inherited another house.
I've been looking into this and people are claiming all kinds of outlandish things with no data to back them up. One guy said he had six "mansions". I'm all for uncovering corruption if it exists. Making up stuff to see if it sticks is not helpful. Let's stick to facts and agree that we all want our government representatives to be answerable to us and free from corruption. Fact checking and doing research is part of that. That's what I do.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 10 days ago* (0 children)
You know the lake house thing is entirely fake news, right? His wife's parents died and left them a house in the will. They sold it and bought a cabin on a lake with the money. I've seen a tour of it. It's roomy but it's not a mansion. They bought bigger than they needed because they wanted a family home where the grandkids could come and stay in the summer.
As far as Biden goes, I think Hillary really screwed up the democrat voters. They universally wanted Bernie. There was a lot of behind-the-scenes manipulation with superdelegates and the like, so Hillary got the nomination. I think everyone already kinda thinks Biden will lose, and those that are paying attention knows that he fondles little kids. It'll be interesting to see if the DNC has the cajones to manipulate the outcome again this time and nominate Biden. (Or, as I like to call him, Uncle Touchy.)
Just some numbers to throw around about Biden's popularity. The subreddit /r/sandersforpresident has over 300,000 subscribers and it was much higher than that during the peak of the election. The subreddit /r/hillaryclinton has 30,000. The subreddit /r/joebiden has less than 3,000.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 11 days ago (0 children)
He was going up against the Clinton machine, which basically took over the entire DNC and gutted it to get her installed as POTUS. That machine mostly fell apart since then. They used almost all the resources of the DNC for one end, and that task failed.
Facebook Glitch Reveals Greta Thunburg's Father Posting As Teenage Climate Activist by Chipit in news
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 11 days ago* (0 children)
It's pretty easy to see that she's being paraded out and reading a script, like that one kid with the fist after the school shooting who was so gung ho about abolishing the second amendment. I honestly cannot keep track of all this shit so I don't know his name. You know, the guy with the fist.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - 11 days ago (0 children)
I don't believe he was bought. He was threatened. If you look at him in the audience when Hillary is accepting the DNC nomination, he had a minor bruise on his cheek like someone punched him. He has grandkids. He looked PISSED that day.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 12 days ago (0 children)
There is a reason all those warning labels exist in our society (especially in the military).
"Warning: do not iron clothes while wearing them. Do not use toaster oven in the shower."
Unfortunately China absolutely does not value human life.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun - 12 days ago (0 children)
I haven't seen a legitimate response to this allegation yet, other than "All celebrities do this."
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun - 13 days ago (0 children)
No, I am saying "do". Absolutely do. I love fucking crazy chicks. Just don't tell them where you live.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun - 14 days ago (0 children)
She's got the crazy eyes.
Guys, absolutely do stick your dick in crazy. Just don't tell crazy where you live.
I am apparently flypaper for freaks and I attract this sort.
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"I once banged Eartha Kitt in an airplane bathroom... hey, it came up organically!"
Community was such an underrated show.
Just got a van, how can I monetize it? by RatherSmallPotato in whatever
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 16 days ago* (0 children)
Yeah, kinda depends. In my case, I have a truck. But if I wanted to buy a sheet of drywall and only had a car, I'd drive to Home Depot, park my car, rent their truck, and take the drywall to my house. Then return the truck to Home Depot and pick up my car. That works well if you are buying stuff there. Way better than going to a rental place and having someone drop you off at U-Haul or Penske or whatever. Everybody's going to do what is most convenient / cheap / practical for them at the time. The trick is to find a niche that no other business has filled. Such as: We will pick you up at your house, drive you to Ikea, you pick out your stuff and buy it, we help you load it and drive it to your house. We help you unload it and we will help you with labor to assemble it. We provide a tool box with simple common tools and a cordless drill. That might be a business model.
I think the one I'd stay away from is actually renting the van to other people and they drive it. That seems like you'd need a real business license and real business car insurance and a bunch of stuff. Really hard to fly under the radar when your own liability is on the hook. My wife sold a van to a friend on payments. He is one of those "gig economy" guys who drives 12 hours a day for Amazon deliveries and Uber Eats and Grubhub and stuff like that. He constantly picks stuff up and delivers it. He ended up getting in a wreck and totaling the car. It turns out that he didn't insure it for business use and they won't cover the loss, and he had only made two payments. Yay.
I'm one of those cautious people who constantly says "what can go wrong here?" so that it doesn't bite you.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 16 days ago (0 children)
You could go further with it... "man with a van and a plan". Help people plan and execute their move or whatever. Bonus points if you are good with logistics.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 16 days ago (0 children)
Home depot rents pickup trucks for something like $19.99 plus mileage for an hour. You need to adjust your price point to be competitive and still earn more than minimum wage.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun - 16 days ago (0 children)
You know, I really wonder about this. Certain parts of the population would find this absolutely hilarious and they would request it. Kind of like visiting one of those extreme haunted houses.
I'm starting building a Youtube alternative by Justin in whatever
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Certainly I'm not saying "don't even think about doing it". But I am really cautious after our near disaster almost wrecked us. Just wanted to make sure you know what you are getting yourself into. Best of luck, and I mean that genuinely. As you say, someone needs to do it.
Private security guards shoot african pirates by Racist in WatchPeopleDie
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun - 19 days ago* (0 children)
Not a lawyer, but I play one on TV.
I believe when you are in international waters, you are subject to the laws of the flag you are sailing under. That's why so many US companies have cruise ships licensed in the Bahamas, Bermuda, Liberia, Nassau, and other places. (Their taxes are lower and their regulations are more lax.)
So you have your own ship that is sailing under, say, the flag of Bermuda. Pretty much everywhere you go in the world, you are allowed to defend yourself against deadly force. So that's point #1. (To be fair, they probably should have waited until the pirates used deadly force before shooting.)
In the absence of anything else, they should be calling mayday for help. The US Navy and the US Coast Guard operate worldwide, their fleets are bigger than any other navy in the world, and they often intercede in places like this. But, they can't be everywhere at once.
I'm aware that some cruise ships and other commercial vessels have sound cannons, water cannons, and other nonlethal defenses they can use to ward off attackers. I'm also presuming they have better weapons locked away that no one talks about unless they need them as a last resort.
From our perspective, the best thing these good guys can do is kill everyone and leave no witnesses. Best outcome is sinking the other boat entirely. Then nobody knows what you did and you don't have to answer any pesky questions about your self defense actions. Probably a good idea to keep the video off the web, too. (Ooops...)
Play pirate games, win pirate prizes.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 19 days ago* (0 children)
The reason we ended up with the model we have now (owned by a very big corporation and it's free, so you are the product)...
Youtube operated at a loss for a very long time. Might still be. Accounting tricks can hide this. Extremely large corporations can afford to operate parts of their company at a loss in order to drive out competition and corner the market.
As newspapers found out, people are unwilling to pay for what they can get for free. Many newspapers struggle to make ends meet even though they have an online presence. If there is a free alternative, people will flock to it and maybe 0.005% will pay for it. Since you have that happening, it automatically turns into a chicken-and-egg problem. With no paid subscribers, you are going to have trouble attracting good content. With no good content, you will have trouble attracting paying customers.
I'd have someone with some business experience in online startups take a hard look at the numbers in your business plan. Most online startups end up with some "angel investors" and fail anyway... the VAST majority. Because they can't make the numbers work long term.
My wife had a home business that folded up and nearly ruined us financially. Typically with startups, you work 18 hours a day and get paid peanuts, barely covering your costs. Almost all new businesses fail because the owner can't afford to operate it out of his pocket AND pay all his normal bills at the same time AND the interest on borrowed money. It often takes 5 years to show a profit or even break even. We were just getting to that point when we went bust. Almost sent us to bankruptcy. Just about lost the house. I picked up 4 jobs (2 full time and 2 part time) and basically worked all my waking hours for five years and brought us out of debt. I don't recommend this route AT ALL unless you have a solid written business plan. You will probably need an angel investor to get off the ground at any scale at all, or a large pile of money that will likely turn into a small one. Can you afford to operate this out of your pocket at a loss for several years? If the answer is no, go back and sharpen your pencil and work on your business plan some more.
Going up against Google and Alphabet is a very steep hill.
Who Wants To Stop Climate Change? by useless_aether in ClimateSkeptics
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Moreover, China cheats.
They were looking for the reason why some industrial chemicals (freon used in refrigerators and A/C) were way too high. It turns out that the rest of the world has been tightening down and restricting it, which is super expensive. China just lied about it and nobody did anything.
Train Stunt Fail by DoctorsHateHim in WatchPeopleDie
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 22 days ago (0 children)
Narcissism. Do a stunt for fake internet approval points.
Happy 2020 New Year by Racist in WatchPeopleDie
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Well at least he died doing what he loved, traumatizing little children for life.
Pics thread 3 by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
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Took a walk in the woods on Christmas day. The property is crisscrossed by trails, some of them are muddy and inaccessible this time of year. Made it down to the creek and took a picture of one of the corner survey posts. Hope you like the pics.
Pics thread 3
26 days ago by yetanotherone_sigh to /s/OffGrid from self.OffGrid
Saidit.net Canary #11 by magnora7 in SaiditCanary
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Thank you for the transparency.
Pics thread 2 by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 27 days ago (0 children)
Yep. The basic idea is low fuel consumption, almost 100% combustion and low emissions, you can cook on it, and you can sit on a warm bench seat. They were invented by permaculture groups down in the southwest, where it's ideal to have a lot of mass to keep your house warm at night. You don't have to get up and stoke the stove.
The only downside is that they're pretty big. But they're cheap.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 27 days ago (0 children)
Right, it's a very large rocket stove with a lot of mass. They run the stove pipe horizontally underneath what is essentially a couch seat made of cob and adobe. You can sit on it, or, more likely, it will become a dog bed. Also has a place to cook, although it is slow regulate changes to heat.
If I build one, it will probably not be nearly as "southwest" as this. Maybe brick.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 28 days ago* (0 children)
I had a couple of thoughts along the way. The buildings that we put up (if they were larger than 200 square feet) are on pier pads instead of a permanent foundation. So you could argue that those are temp structures and not under the jurisdiction of building codes. Might be totally wrong about this. And of course you have the delicate thing that you have to explain why there is a bedroom and kitchen in your 350 square foot "chicken coop".
For real, the best way is to keep it quiet.
Build in a county with small government presence and somewhat lax building codes, sparsely populated, poor and rural.
Build under cover of trees.
Spread the buildings out.
Keep all the buildings under 200 square feet so they won't attract attention.
Don't annoy neighbors. They could turn you in if you piss them off. Bake some cookies and act friendly.
Be LOW KEY. We're not setting up a zombie apocalypse bomb shelter.
New: If you are using a wood stove, make sure you don't have a lot of smoke that can be seen for a long distance. We're in a valley, so that won't be an issue. Our state has a department of ecology and they publish a list of allowable wood stoves due to smog. Anything that is not on the list cannot be bought or sold or installed or used in the state. I looked over the list and bought a model used on craigslist that is allowable, so nobody can give me any grief about that. Thinking about the next structure, I may put in a rocket mass heater stove, which basically has no exhaust at all besides warm C02 and water vapor. Extremely low emission. You would never be able to get a permit for one but they are basically invisible due to not emitting any visible smoke.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 29 days ago* (0 children)
There are a couple of zoning issues that I've come across. If you camp out in a trailer or RV, a lot of places allow you to do that on your own land for 9 month per year. Then you have to "move away" for 3 months and then you can move back. Not clear on a few details. Can you leave the RV there and just move yourself? Can you own two adjoining properties and move back and forth between them? How much enforcement does this see, or is it just treated as a nuisance law so that they can get rid of someone they don't want, but normally don't enforce it? Can you sometimes sleep in a permanent building without an occupancy permit (cabin or shed)?
My own interaction with the county went like this.
We bought the property. It's located in a backwoods county that is pretty sparsely populated and only has a big city (20,000) at the county seat. (That's not really a big city, but it's the biggest one there.) The county is fairly large and spread out, and we're a long way from the county seat.
I started out wanting to build a "tool shed" that would be the max size allowable without a permit. I found the county building permit office and emailed them that question. To my surprise, they emailed me right back with a PDF handout showing all the pertinent data. In this county, you can have a building up to the following:
Up to 200 square feet
Wall height up to 10 feet
Foundations up to 4 feet deep (!) Couldn't believe that one.
Roof overhangs must be less than 2 feet
There were several other specifications but those were the pertinent ones. The flyer basically said that if you built anything smaller than that, they didn't want to hear about it because they didn't have the manpower to do permits and inspections on small structures.
It was interesting to me because I'd always heard that 100 square feet was the max, not 200. I was prepared to build a 8x12 tool shed but we ended up with a 12x16. The cabin ended up being that size, too.
Pushing your limits: The big bugaboo now is satellite and aerial photography. With software, they don't even have to manually look. They can run the software and do a comparative before-vs-after analysis and see if anything changes from year to year. They can estimate square footage pretty accurately from good photographs. I have heard that some counties (with more money than ours) are starting to use drones, following automated paths with GPS. Good photography, cheap, and on-demand. So I am hesitant to try pushing their boundaries. One side note: our property is heavily wooded and it has pretty good cloud cover in the winter when the trees shed their leaves. We purposefully built under the treeline to obscure what we are doing. Of course someone from the county can just drive right up and look things over in person, but they don't have the manpower for that. As far as code compliance, we're going to (a) occupy a building with no occupancy permit, (b) install a solar panel system without electrical permits, (c) harvest water from a creek, and (d) dispose of wastewater without a septic tank and drain field. Also (e) using a composting toilet, but this may actually be allowed. Unclear if you are required to actually have a flush toilet. The old neighbor guy a mile down the logging road also lives in a cabin and he has a real-life Porta Potty outhouse. He says it satisfies the county. He actually has a company come out and empty it from time to time.
In a very sparse or poor county these issues probably wouldn't matter at all. There are some unincorporated counties that actually don't have building codes or permits. You just get some 2x4s and build stuff.
Depending on where you are, and how harsh the government is, the penalties for building stuff without a permit can get pretty bad. I've heard anecdotal tales (may or may not be true) that people were forced to tear down their work. Others that I know of, were issued "stop work" orders or forced to go get permits and inspections. Probably a fine in there somewhere too. It's a calculated risk. I chose a pretty big county that is sparsely populated and has a very small government presence, in the hope that I won't have to tangle with them.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 29 days ago (0 children)
I saw a very early article on tinyhouses in Fine Homebuilding Magazine, of all places, maybe two decades ago. It was before they started calling them tinyhouses. Guy lived up on an island near Seattle and he did just that. I think he built three. One for bedroom, one for bathroom / kitchen / laundry, and one for a living room area. It wasn't an attempt to be off grid per se, but it was an attempt to get out from under some square footage restrictions of one kind or another.
Getting an occupancy permit to live in a small building is the hard part. That's why tinyhouses are usually just glorified trailers. If it's not permanent, it's not permanent... and you don't need an occupancy permit to live in it. A lot of people do it unofficially and fly under the radar, but the trick is to disperse the buildings around and don't have too many of them. We have two buildings and a tool shed, and another temporary tarp garage.
Many people aren't aware those big garage doors they have on loading bays and such are held up by a spring. This is what happens when that spring fails. by ElonMuskOfficial in Death
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 29 days ago (0 children)
Poor bastard probably didn't even feel it. Just lights out.
Sales manager has had enough of selling cars by blind_sypher88 in WatchPeopleDie
If I had to work at a car dealership, I'd feel like doing this after 1 day.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago* (0 children)
As far as I know, seriously, there isn't a limit as long as you obey the property setback regulations. This is far enough out in the woods that nobody is ever gonna care. Of course, you aren't supposed to be using them for habitation, but whatever. There is an old guy who lives in a cabin directly on the gravel logging road and he has a bunch of ramshackle outbuildings and shacks and lean-tos everywhere. There is a guy who build a real, bona-fide, actual house with permits and everything. The inspectors would have had to drive right by the other cabin repeatedly to go to the inspections on this real home. So I guess it's not a big deal if we make some effort to keep it just slightly on the down-low.
When I started this project the solar panels were around $175 with shipping. This was way before Amazon would ship them to your door for free. The shipping from a solar company just about doubled the cost of the panels. Now it's trivial to get your foot in the door. Between cheap solar, free batteries, and the advent of cheap LEDs, we're in a golden time of getting off grid. Seriously, it would have cost 5X to 10X this much 10 years ago.
Now that it's been up there a while, I think the Kindorf mount for the solar panels is a little overkill. It would have been pretty expensive to build from scratch. When I built it, I didn't have a good road to the property and I didn't want to deal with schlepping bags of concrete in. So I built it out of heavy steel without any kind of foundation. I didn't want it to flip over in high wind. My next one will be similar to this, but I'll probably just dig four post-holes and fill them with concrete, and put the corner posts in those. That will eliminate 3/4 of the frame members, because it doesn't have to have a frame to hold itself together. Just has to have cross members to keep the panels in the right position and keep them from blowing away.
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A little info on the cabin: 192 square feet if you don't count the loft. My county allows buildings up to 200 square feet without a permit. The loft is another 96 square feet, which makes the actual square footage 288. Some of that has very low ceilings because of the roof pitch of the upper story, so call it 250.
The solar panel mounts are made of Kindorf, which is what the electricians and trades use basically as Tinker Toys or Legos. It's handy stuff, but expensive. Most of that was salvaged when it was removed from a building that was being demolished. Need to lengthen this one by another 3 feet and add the last 100W panel. Then the next one will take two 320W panels laying the long direction, so it'll basically be the same size.
Pics thread 2
1 month ago by yetanotherone_sigh to /s/OffGrid from self.OffGrid
LGBT Flags Get Handed Out at School, Kids Rebel and Raise Confederate Flag by useless_aether in news
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
Ah, I see where you are coming from now. Thanks for the explanation.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
Moreover, if this made it onto their social media, how many of them will become unemployable unpersons in the future because of it?
It's a Christian flag? Literally never seen one.
I am aware of the covenant in Genesis 9:13 where God displays a rainbow and tells Noah that he will never again flood the entire earth and destroy everything.
But I've literally never seen Christians display a rainbow flag. Not ever.
Women useless after 33 by Lowkey2017 in CringeAnarchy
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
I definitely felt useless until about that age. Totally ignored by women, treated like garbage and tossed aside. You are useless if you don't have a lot of money. Now that I have some income and I'm in my 40s, women my own age are literally fighting over me. They are on their way downhill in market value, and I am on my way up.
The SJWs love to complain about 'toxic masculinity'. White heterosexual cisgender males have to put up with this garbage every day of their lives and they wonder why we are getting cranky about it. Fuck this noise. This is why people are checking out and no longer looking at MSM news.
Pics of the property and cabin by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago* (0 children)
The solar panels being crooked is a funny story. I was building the mount out in the woods in hurry, with supplies I brought with me. It's made out of Kindorf hardware. I ran out of some pieces I needed to finish it, and I was 50 miles away from home. So I zip tied the rest of the panels in place. Still haven't gotten around to fixing it, so the panels are crooked. lol
The lesson here is: make sure you have your parts lined up before you go. Civilization is a LONG ways away.
I have to change this mount to add another panel, so I will fix it then. Adding another 100W panel and making the mount longer. Making a second mount right next to it to hold two 320W panels. Total solar install will be 1240W.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
The cache has been out there a year and a half. I opened it up to see its condition. Some light rust on the Dinty Moore stew can, which I replaced. Everything else looking good.
Pics of the property and cabin
Ultra-Small Water Power Generator by send_nasty_stuff in OffGrid
That's an interesting design. I have a small creek and I was planning on building a bridge across it and making an undershot water wheel suspended from the bridge. But I hadn't really gotten too far on the design yet. This kind of looks like an Archimedes screw in reverse.
CNN pays airports $100,000 each to air their channel by useless_aether in propaganda
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
Yep. They've had a special feed for airports and hotel lobbies for decades. Literally paid propaganda. You didn't think those TV sets were there for your education, did you?
Gardening and edible landscaping by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
Will do. This is a community. Please post your own experiences, even if you don't have land. Camping is technically living off grid. lol. We all have experiences to share.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
Good idea. Once it starts bearing fruit I plan on replanting a bunch of them, too. Need lots and lots of fruit trees. Apples, plums, cherries, walnuts, and filberts all do well here.
Let's talk about what you need to get started: Land by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
Pics coming. I will be back up there on Christmas day.
Power would be nice. What's that? We don't have any power lines running to the property? by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
I have the advantage of getting free batteries at work. They are deep cycle lead acid (large car batteries, but rated for UPS duty). That would definitely have been a very large chunk of money... thousands of dollars. Please feel free to post a pic of your setup!
Water, water everywhere. And not a drop to drink. by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
That's a strong possibility and it was on my list of things to try out. Most of the property is thickly wooded and I'd have to find a spot that gets some sun, but it would certainly work.
I bought this land to basically be able to camp in (the state campgrounds are really crowded and noisy) and we ended up building cabins and eventually I will live there full time. But it's my intention to leave most of it wild except for some trails and a footbridge across the creek. The only thing I will do is maybe clear 1/2 acre for gardens. The taxes are not burdensome. It wouldn't really qualify anyway; this land has been clear cut once (old growth Douglas Fir and Western Red Cedar) in the 1930s, then it was replanted probably in the 1950s, and it was clear cut once again maybe 20 years ago. The timber that is standing now was not replanted Douglas Fir. They didn't replant it and it basically grew up with scrub brush. The overwhelmingly fast growth of Vine Maple caused it to take over and I basically have a thick forest of young Vine Maple with very few other trees mixed in. They are maybe 50-60 feet tall. Anyway, it probably wouldn't qualify for tax credits because it's not original and I'm not a forestry business. But it doesn't matter anyway. I'll never sell it or cut them down. I wanted to own a slice of forest with no people in it.
Nice! Please feel free to post here. I am eager to hear everyone else's experiences.
Welcome to /s/OffGrid by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
I started out with a solar panel and a battery in an ammo box. It was so that I could go camping and keep my phone and laptop charged up. It's a dangerously slippery slope... it led me to shopping for land on craigslist. If you decide to jump in, this is a community. I started this so that everyone could share ideas.
It's $600 a year at the newly assessed value of $62K. I think that's more than fair.
Yes, it was. The people who owned it were apparently trying to set up a hippie commune and they ran out of money. So they were really behind on their property taxes and they were about to lose it. I got a great deal on it.
R.E.M. had a song, "Everybody Hurts." Today I submit to you: "Everybody poops." by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
The indoor composting toilet using the peat moss is the above 50 degree model. To use it, you'd put in a tiny bathroom inside your cabin and just make sure it stays warm enough. It doesn't smell bad.
The bucket'o'poop with the humanure and sawdust is different. It generates its own heat as the sawdust decomposes, and the whole thing takes off and kills pathogens as the poop is digested. Basically you can do this in any climate at any temperature. If it freezes solid in the winter, it will take off as the weather warms up.
That leads into a totally different topic, but a friend of mine is trying to harness the heat of decaying compost to heat his greenhouse in the winter. You can run a coil of garden hose through the pile and slowly pump water through it. The water picks up heat. Then you empty the water into a tank inside your greenhouse. You continually circulate this in a loop. It uses a small amount of energy to run the pump, but it will keep a greenhouse in normal temps all winter for the price of a few bales of hay.
Link to free version of the Humanure Handbook: http://humanurehandbook.com/downloads/Humanure_Manual_2019.pdf (PDF warning)
R.E.M. had a song, "Everybody Hurts." Today I submit to you: "Everybody poops."
Fake News by Ommission by useless_aether in FakeNews
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
Feelings are more important than facts. And here's why you should feel bad for being a white male.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
Met a very old lady.
She pointed at the cherry tree and said that she had planted it about 10 years ago.
It was started from a cherry pit from a cherry tree in her yard. That tree had been planted by someone who came down the Oregon trail in a wagon!
That's worth researching. I hadn't heard that.
I'm in hot water now. I don't have hot water! by yetanotherone_sigh in OffGrid
Yep! If you eat right out of the pan, you don't even need to wash a plate.
Seriously, though... if you take a look at how a normal house uses water, we aren't doing hardly any of that here.
We don't run laundry.
We don't have a dishwasher.
The toilet is a waterless composting system. It doesn't flush.
We take showers, wash hands, and do dishes. The people and the dogs drink water. That's it.
And we will water the garden eventually. But that will mostly be gray water.
Another link for a batch solar water heater here: http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/jspui/bitstream/1957/15142/1/SolarHeaterManual.pdf (PDF warning)
This one was designed for Oregon. High latitude, not a lot of solar exposure.
If you put this in a normal house, you can put it inline with your existing hot water heater and use it as a pre-heater. You would need to add bypass valves so the system can be shut off and drained in the winter.
People are hired and paid to shill on Reddit via a contracting company! Read the job ad for hiring Reddit SHILLS. Also Facebook. by useless_aether in MeanwhileOnReddit
[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
Possible to set up a tower and put in a very small wind turbine.
Possible to set up a bridge across the creek and put in a micro hydro system.
All three of the systems, the solar, hydro, and wind power, are all intermittent and seasonal. You get more solar in the summer. You get more water in the winter. So they should balance out.
Currently have a 2kW Honda suitcase generator for backup. Would like to put in a converter so that it can be run on both propane and gasoline.
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
I should note: VERY SMALL COAL MINES. Probably just enough to run a steam engine for old logging machines.
By the way, I'm going to plug a DIY solar site where I got the ideas about solar water heating:
If you haven't gone there yet, GO THERE NOW AND SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING AROUND.
I'm in hot water now. I don't have hot water!
[–]yetanotherone_sigh[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago (0 children)
Please feel free to post some of your own.
Welcome aboard! Please post and comment.
Gardening and edible landscaping
Load: how are you using your power?
I wanted to keep everything in native 12V from the batteries unless I have something specific that I need to power.
Most of the load will be running LED lights. Those are easy to find in 12VDC. I have several interior lights and porch lights up now. Need to add more outdoor lighting for security and to see if you are being stalked by a wild animal at night (yes, this happens).
Some of the load will be pumping water. I have several small 12V pumps for running the shower and whatnot. Need a larger one for the creek.
The 900W inverter is used, believe it or not, for watching TV. It gets dark quick and the nights are long at a high latitude. No TV antenna reception in a valley. So we have a small Western Digital box that hooks up to a HDD full of TV shows and movies that I brought out. Mostly Ray Mears survival shows. lol
I should note that I built my solar panel system piecemeal. THIS IS THE WRONG WAY TO DO IT UNLESS YOU ARE INSANE.
You should start with a plan. What is your load? Then you work backwards from there. How big of an inverter will you need? How many batteries? How large of a charge controller? How much sun do you get in your part of the country? How many panels will you need? This is called a SOLAR SURVEY and it's very important. So naturally I didn't do any of this.
I started out in a completely different way: I wanted something portable that I could go camping with. A 100W solar panel, an ammo box of batteries, a charge controller, a USB charger for my phone, and a cigarette lighter plug to run small 12V devices or a small inverter for a laptop.
When I started this solar plan, I didn't have a piece of property at all. So this morphed into "let's power a cabin". And I didn't have a pile of money, so I bought the panels one at a time. The deep cycle UPS batteries were free from work and they are EXPENSIVE ($1700.00 new). So I worked around what I had.
Water, water everywhere. And not a drop to drink.
Power would be nice. What's that? We don't have any power lines running to the property?
A building: Getting out of the rain
Cost of land: $39,000. Appraisal value: $62,000.
The people who had this land were hippies who wanted to have a commune and live off grid. They wanted the property to be a nature preserve with edible landscaping. There are two gardens on the property, but they are heavily overgrown now.
I got it really cheap because they were several years behind on their property taxes and they were close to losing the property. The total cost of the land was $34K. The back taxes and closing costs counted up the other $5K. I had a 20% down payment. I went to my credit union only to find out that banks do not often give loans on "bare dirt". So I got a signature loan for the rest of it. Unfortunately they tend to have a high percentage rate, but what are you gonna do?
That was 2.5 years ago. 2.5 years to go before it's paid off. $600 a month is worth it. I smile every month when I make that payment. I am at the point now in the loan when most of the interest is paid off and you can see the principal shrinking down pretty fast, over $400 a month.
Let's talk about what you need to get started: Land
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Could we change the smilie-face to something more respectable? by Krehlmar in WatchPeopleDie
Same. I kinda miss newsgroups.
Self-Driving Mercedes Will Be Programmed To Sacrifice Pedestrians To Save The Driver by Mnemonic in technology
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Lots of jokes and memes and other stuff in this thread. Going to attempt to discern what is being discussed here:
The Trolley Problem
A thought experiment in ethics.
There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. However, you notice that there is one person on the side track. You have two options:
Do nothing and allow the trolley to kill the five people on the main track.
Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person.
Which is the more ethical option? Or, more simply: What is the right thing to do?
They are attempting to write the rules that teach the car ethics, so that the car knows ahead of time what it will do in an unsolvable situation. If your car cannot stop in time and must choose between smashing the car into an overpass abutment and maybe killing all the occupants (could be up to 1 driver + 4 to 5 passengers) vs. killing one pedestrian, what would the car choose to do?
Obviously this is a last resort, a worst-case scenario. The car isn't going to search out pedestrians to flatten. If the car knows it is going to get into an accident and cannot stop, it should have decisions set up ahead of time so that its actions will be predictable. Unpredictable computer programming is really dangerous. Let's say the car cannot stop in time and it has a choice between hitting three objects: a single pedestrian on the left, a telephone pole on the right, and a crowd of people in the middle. If you don't program the car ahead of time, it could end up in a point of indecision, where it cannot make a choice. Instead of turning left or right, it doesn't turn and it plows into a crowd of people, killing a dozen. We know that a dozen deaths is worse than one death. See?
some dude fed the KJV version of the bible into his A.I. bot and it rewrote the bible... he is now selling in on amazon. by swordofdamocles42 in Internet
Too bad no previews.
You might be able to get an interesting translation by feeding it into Google Translate, translating it into another language, and translating it back.
When it was new, before it was in the top 100 of websites in the world, you could have thoughtful discussions with intelligent comments. Now it's almost a total waste. Theodore Sturgeon (writing about sci fi books) said "80% of everything is crap". It applies to comment sections on reddit.
Pretty much every subreddit is manipulated in some way, unless you have one that is seriously obscure. Also reddit is full of asshats. I will date myself here and say it's the Eternal September effect.
Fillery Clinton by useless_aether in funny
Must be getting ready for Biden to get out of the way so that she can campaign again.