Papers, Please! Oregon Now Requires ‘Proof of Vaccination’

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[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

This is the only correct way forward. The honour system isn't going to work.

From my interactions with the anti-vax movement, I strongly suspect that many people who refuse to get vaccinated would also be quite happy to lie about it and not wear a mask.

[–]FuckMasks 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Your point? You think people shouldn't have a choice?

Of course people will protect their right to preserve their body as is, aka 'un vaxed', aka organic. By whatever means necessary. The masks don't do shit. It is abundantly apparent, since you're still pushing them- are you a paid liar or just a complete moron?

[–]Sendnoodles 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You rights don't include making others sick. As you said, people can choose what to do with their bodies. I choose to take care of mine and it isn't your right to fuck that up because you choose not to use the brain that was included with yours.

People who are constantly screaming about their rights have a tendency it seems to forget, others have rights as well.

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Agreed.

At this point I am just waiting for Darwin to take care of the anti-vax crowd. They've earned it.

Unfortunately there are also people that cannot be vaccinated due to legitimate medical needs, and the children who have not received it yet. My 12 year old just got his first shot.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If this pandemic had any real bearing, then anti-maskers would be dead in the street. They'd fill the hospitals. Anti-vaxxers would simply have to change their minds, because they'd be sick and dying.

"My twelve year old just got his first shot." You are either raising a sheep, or a malcontent. He will either be a stupid follower like you, or resent the fucking hell out of you after he comes to.

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's entirely within your rights to say...

But I had Covid-19 and it gave me all kinds of problems. If you are familiar with the symptoms of long covid, I had a whole list of them, such as a pulmonary embolism and a stroke. I am otherwise healthy and have had no cardiovascular issues my whole life. I have had shortness of breath for 6 months. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. As an anecdote, I work with a guy that now has 55% lung capacity due to permanent scarring because of covid.

For what it's worth, our 12 year old made the decision himself with the insight and assistance from 2 parents and a step parent.

So it's your right if you want to not take the shot and risk getting sick. There is a meme going around today of a cop who was anti-vax and said "I have an immune system, I don't need a vaccination". He died of Covid yesterday. The irony is thick but I feel sorry for his family. There have been a bunch of these including politicians.

I'm curious if you feel this way about other vaccinations you get when you're a child. When I was in elementary school many years ago, they didn't allow you to say no. You got the shot, or you weren't allowed to attend public school. This was for MMR and other common vaccinations at the time. How say you?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I say that you are confused.

When I was a kid, I got a sinus and ear infection. It progressed really fast because I just didn't complain about my symptoms until I was shitting myself every night. The doctors thought I had cancer for an entire month. They almost killed me while they tested me for cancer and did all sorts of odd delays so I could see specific doctors.

I almost died because of their malpractice. What your case sounds like is you were misdiagnosed, mistreated, and will now deal with chronic issues because of it. As you said, we can believe what we want to believe.

The fucking difference is that you want the government to dictate how we live our lives based off of these beliefs of ours. You get to believe what you want because the government agrees with it.

I'm fucked just because I'll never trust those rat bastards again, unless I know them personally. They almost killed me. They did kill my grandfather, and they kept my family from being at his bedside, and they cremated him before a proper autopsy was done. This is why folks like me don't care for bootlickers anymore. We are sick of this non-action and willful ignorance.

How say you?