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[–]Yin 14 insightful - 13 fun14 insightful - 12 fun15 insightful - 13 fun -  (21 children)

...a truly objective being.

"SmartestGuyInTheRoom"

fedora tip

I hereby challenge you to go back to reddit.

[–]TheJamesRocket 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

Hes probably the sort of Redditor who frequents forums like AgainstHateSubreddits, TopMindsOfReddit, BeholdTheMasterRace, FragileWhiteRedditor, ChapoTrapHouse, etc.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Hes probably the sort of Redditor who frequents forums like AgainstHateSubreddits

"He's" infact, socks.

Can you imagine anyone else opening up this post with high-praise for socks?

Socks is probably the "least upvotes per comment" champion. An autistic savant.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Who cares? It's not so difficult to respond to this person.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Who cares? It's not so difficult to respond to this person.

We know you posted this submission socks.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Again - the OP is obviously not me. As with some others here, you have nothing to contribute, or don't want to. Pathetic.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Again - the OP is obviously not me.

FTFY

Pathetic.

Name calling?

Pathetic.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

No need to drag down the discussion. Make a reasonable argument, if you wish.

[–]Yin 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

OP uses a throwaway to say idiotic semi-derogatory words about people here and then "challenges them" as if this has any meaning beyond his own laughable subjectivity.

Then you say:

No need to drag down the discussion. Make a reasonable argument, if you wish.

You're the one dragging down discussion, which is a habit of yours. There's no need for you to drag down discussion. There's no need for you to respond. You haven't made a reasonable argument. Make a reasonable argument, if you wish.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

OP u/socks uses a throwaway to say idiotic semi-derogatory words about people here and then "challenges them" as if this has any meaning beyond his own laughable subjectivity

[–]Yin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

That's honestly what I'm first suspecting given the eagerness with which he's pestering people here and begging them to answer OP's question. Whether he is or not, it's funny either way. lol.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did I beg anyone to answer the question? No.

Look at it this way - a visitor drops by and offers some comments - the responses to which are so stupid that the visitor looks better than the Saiditors. Try to have some self-respect. The problem with Reddit is that we expect most users to post stupid comments, perhaps because so many of them are mentally 13. Saidit, on the other hand, shouldn't be like that.

[–]Yin 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lol. You're too much. Were you born yesterday? If you can't tell this inherently isn't some "fresh visitor", you're not doing yourself any favors. OP is very likely someone who bare minimum reads the site constantly and more likely someone with an account who's been commenting on this site for awhile to have such a lay of the land and personal opinions and then using an obvious throwaway account to play "commentator" to backdoor sneak in some jabs.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The problem with Reddit is that we expect most users to post stupid comments [...] Saidit, on the other hand, shouldn't be like that.

Stop adding your misinfo nonsense to the pile and most of those stupid comments should disappear.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Your style of comments, your obsession with me (in 7 attacks here), comment history, and account all appear to show that this is one of Jason Carswell's alt accounts, or someone who thinks and behaves exactly like him. Whoever you are, your obsession with and hatred of me is informative of your severe mental limitations. Also - what would I write about Carswell if I were the OP? Absolutely nothing nice, if anything. Carswell craves attention on Saidit and is to be avoided by me. You don't deserve the name Noam Chomsky, and likely have no idea how much your comments are the opposite of what he'd think.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Your style of comments, your obsession with me (in several attacks here), comment history, and account all appear to show that this is one of Jason Carswell's alt accounts, or someone who thinks and behaves exactly like him.

Ha! Myopia.

u/JasonCarswell 's your nemesis. I understand why.
'Cause he's from the old left.
The principled left.
The left that would have a conversation with anyone, about anything. None of this phoney triggered taboo bullshit.

The old left knows the chinks in the neoliberals armor.
We both know that you can't block the attacks from the old left.
Those who wept, as yours pilled up the skeletons in the closet.

You don't deserve the name Noam Chomsky, and likely have no idea how much your comments are the opposite of what he'd think.

Agreed.

Chomsky deserves credit for many things, but ultimately he's controlled opposition.

He covered up for Zionist 9/11, and more.

He's an anti-Zionist fraud. Just like you are.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The "old left" are fucking over the 99%, as are the neoliberals. New progressive approaches are not easy to explain, especially to knuckle-draggers in parts of Saidit, but here is a sample:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/15/21065823/neoliberal-progressive-economic-vision-roosevelt-institute-papers-warren-sanders

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The "old left" are fucking over the 99%, as are the neoliberals.

Spouting off about progressive identity politics, huh?
Do you have any original ideas?
Can you debate the issues on their objective merits?

You're like that crazy homeless person that plays chess with pigeons.

You're playing a game of "4D Pigeon". Solitaire.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yin - why don't you see what's wrong with these comments? It certainly doesn't matter who OP is or isn't. There is an option to make an objective argument or not to make it. If instead you want to go against Saidit's rules and drag down the discussion on the PoD - for whatever reason (feelings hurt, or whatever), then you've not done anything worthwhile. Step up or don't. Whining like this is stupid, embarrassing, and against Saidit rules/guidelines. Think for a moment: what do you want from visitors? You want them to stroke your ego, or do you have any interest in a discussion and information?

[–]Yin 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Stop acting like some reasonable moral authority. You're currently cherry picking who to pester if they're calling out the troll rather than the troll itself. Your statements in this thread so far are worth less than the OP's even though the OP is doing what I consider to be obviously insulting and trolling.

When I feel like calling out a troll, I will. If you don't like it, that's fine. I'm not about to police your speech.

Step up or don't. Whining like this is stupid, embarrassing, and against Saidit rules/guidelines. Think for a moment: what do you want from visitors? You want them to stroke your ego, or do you have any interest in a discussion and information?

Right back at you. That's just your subjective whining.

[–]package 11 insightful - 10 fun11 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

OP’s such a raging faggot both of his dads disowned him

[–]Node 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Even his birth dad? Dang.

[–]thefirststone 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to make an argument for any non-mainstream idea that is designed to educate, inform, and thoroughly convince a truly objective being.

It`s Okay To Be White

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It`s Okay To Be White

At least you've made an effort, but you must know that this is a ridiculously redundant argument. It's embarrassing.

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Tell that to the teachers convincing children it's not okay.

[–]Yin 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]thefirststone 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Tautologies trigger? Terrific!

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Op runs away

[–]d3rr 9 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

fluoride + glyphosate + your body = ???

[–]Noam_Chomsky 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

fluoride + glyphosate + your body = ??? = OP = u/socks

[–]socks 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Dead bees? => Less food? => Extreme income inequality? => Revolution?/War? => Fewer bodies? = Napoleon 2.0?

[–]Node 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Why would I want to 'convince' anyone of anything?

Why would they need to be convinced in the first place?

some intelligent person very accurately described Saidit as a schizophrenic version of Reddit

That is not an 'intelligent' assessment.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why would I want to 'convince' anyone of anything?

A: The same reason you'd discuss anything that you consider informative. It's not difficult - especially at Saidit - to make an argument that challenges this person. It's rather sad to see so many Saiditors fail to respond to this person.

[–]killerjavi98 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

Why would anybody want respect from someone who clearly contributed nothing to this website. Maybe you should formulate your ideas and truly spread awareness. Or are you somebody that needs to be told how to think?

[–]Zapped 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, this person has "contributed" to this site, just not under this username.

[–]killerjavi98 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Who?

[–]Zapped 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know, but why would anyone casually stumble upon the site and make a post like this? I suspect there are at least a couple of people who like to wear masks and play pretend on here.

[–]Node 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Reddit trolls. They're jealous of a site with more free speech than reddit.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're jealous of a site with more free speech than reddit.

LOL!

[–]fschmidt 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (14 children)

If there are 2 positions, X and Y, and those in power support X and censor evidence for Y, then one cannot be certain which is right but I would tend to believe Y over X.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

SAVED.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

An oversimplification.

(There are several positions in play, but I would agree that the 1% is essentially X, which is why Saidit is so interesting, as many here are gullible enough to agree with the disinformaiton propaganda paid for by X.)

[–]fschmidt 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

A simplification, not oversimplification, meant to generally answer the original post.

SaidIt has more users resisting X (the mainstream) than most sites, which makes sense because this is one of the more uncensored forum platforms.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Saidit supports X by agreeing with the propaganda and disinformation posted by websites paid for by the 1%.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Example?

[–]socks 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

All of the anti-vax posts, for example

[–]fschmidt 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

The 1% are obviously pro-vax, so I don't understand.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

It's a shill.

[–]fschmidt 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

How does one distinguish a shill from a moron?

[–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Good question. I made it into a macro image.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL

[–]Drewski 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

As an impartial observer

k

COVID-19 is a scam, either it's not a real virus or if it is, it's not actually dangerous. * COVID-19 vaccinations will apparently kill you and maybe rape your children. * (Evil) Jews control everything including all mainstream media, major financial institutions, governments, and covert organizations. * The 2020 Election was illegitimate, because the guy who is arguably the worst president ever (objectively speaking, in terms of domestic and foreign ratings/opinion data, not to mention number of impeachments) totally got more votes but they were switched at 2am by Italian satellites. * The NSA, CIA, and other alphabet organizations are watching all of us, especially here on Saidit, because they are so deeply afraid of the truth that is unveiled here.

Bottom tier strawmen

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to make an argument for any non-mainstream idea that is designed to educate, inform, and thoroughly convince a truly objective being.

pass

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

pass

Weak

[–]Drewski 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

I'm gonna need you to write me a 10 page essay detailing why my response was weak. It must be objective and quote sources from all sides of the political spectrum. Bonus points if you fit some chess master references in there.

[–]GST893 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

Reddit is that way, shill.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

No need to drag down the discussion. Make a reasonable argument, if you wish.

[–]BelgIsTheWord 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

That is a reasonable argument. The guy is a shill and reddit is a cesspool.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

It's irrelevant, stupid, embarrassing, adds nothing to the comments section, and is against the Saidit guidelines, as you should know. Think.

[–]BelgIsTheWord 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Dude this is your sock account posting. It's pretty obvious.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So you've got nothing.

[–]BelgIsTheWord 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Please contribute to the debate and not use one liners. Think.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I responded to the OP. WTF are you on about.

[–]BelgIsTheWord 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LoL go away.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Like your hypocritical perpetual bickering noise.

[–]Iloveyounowfuckofff 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

You sound like you may have mastered all time and space! You should probably just go ahead and ascend to higher realms of consciousness and become a pompous little faggot made of pure light.

[–]TheJamesRocket 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

u/SmartestGuyInTheRoom Are you a master debater? Or just a masturbator?

[–]mahavishnunj 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I can't take the credit, but some intelligent person very accurately described Saidit as a schizophrenic version of Reddit.

not schizophrenic. way more stupid, and way more bot/shill-consumed. its fun to pick them out though.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

u/socks - You're like that crazy homeless person that plays chess with pigeons. You may be a chess genius, but it doesn't matter because the pigeons always end up knocking over the pieces and flying away.

Hey Socks. You are not a genius.

You aren't fooling anyone.

Who's help did you enlist to write this contrived Saidit essay???

"shill" appears to be the hot term these days

This term is familiar to you, because it describes your activity. We can see that It hurts.

There's a reflective aspect to your post. You've been red pilled, but you're still in denial.

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it

Do yourself (and everyone) a favor:

  • Salvage your dignity!!! Quit lying.
  • Quit this shilling nonsense.
  • Accept the factually supported truth, as you increasing understand it.
  • Create a new account, and leave the shill baggage behind (don't use this account).

Edit:

u/Jesus

u/JasonCarswell

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Chomsky believes it doesn't matter who killed JFK and 9/11 turth is stupid.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. Chomsky admitted, "I'm a Zionist."

On the topic of usernames. My thoughts have recently been drawn to biblical Jesus.

Jesus's activity in the bible focused on healing the sick, and purging evil spirits from the body of others (exorcisms).
He also spoke directly about morality, and moral action.
Jesus did not quote from the bible/Torah during his sermons (as I understand it).

People of different faiths traveled to see him for his healing and spirit cleansing. Rare for this period.

Jesus was a faith-healer, and exorcist.

Have you been practicing? The exorcisms?
It's not about the book.

Yup.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just because 9/11 is the very foundation of the perpetual global war of terror doesn't mean it requires any analysis, so yes it is very very very very stupid. It's also silly too.
/s

[–]socks 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you knew anything about my comments, you'd know that I don't think like the OP, or write like this person. Grow up.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If you knew anything about my comments, you'd know that I don't think like the OP, or write like this person.

I've addressed this (in bold for the hard of thinking):

Who's help did you enlist to write this contrived Saidit essay???

This is too funny.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You've been red pilled, but you're still in denial.

This seems more than plausible, though they may not be red-pilled or Smart enough to add it all up together to see the simple Machiavellian grand deception. With more effort it may click for the Guy.

[–]Zapped 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

So what is the purpose of this post, unless you like playing chess with pigeons?

[–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not sure - but the results here are pathetic. Saidit should be better than this.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

u/Jesus - Honestly, I'm not even sure what to say about this one. Part of me wants to pose a completely inane situation and listen to u/Jesus wholeheartedly argue that it all comes back to the jews and their controlling the world. Another part of me wants to dare u/Jesus to post anything at all that does not involve jews.

Jews in the def. of Judahite Hebrews don't exist. They stole the Judahite Hebrew identity to trick Christians into believing they are somehow chosen to confiscate land and pillage, pludner, murder and rape natives off their land in Palestine who actually are semitic.

Jews are an ethnic group of Ashkenazi and Sephardi culture among a few others and the rabbinic religion that rejects Christ. You can not be born a Jew, it is not racial liek racial Zionists like to push.

Zionists and plutocrats own the west. Call me not surprised.

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Bravo. Empirical evidence is not highly rated here. I'm from the "show me" state.

[–]BelgIsTheWord 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I am embarrassed for you over this pasta.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry OP, Saidit's incapable of self-reflection.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

An entertaining though dismissive post of demotivation and misinformation.

What then, would you have me do about Machiavellian, deceptive, exploitative, and murderous tyranny? It's obvious you can't even recognize it. Smarts don't equal wisdom either.

I don't accept your timesuck challenge and care nothing about your respect, as you've not earned my respect with a single post.

[–]Yin 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Get a load of socks' NPC-style responses everywhere in these comments that adds even more pointlessness to it than OP's idiotic trolling because socks essentially presumes to take OP's trolling seriously. Quite bizarre.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Again - you're giving too much importance to the OP. There's an interesting question. Answer it or don't. Whining like this is embarrassing.

[–]Yin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

There's an interesting question.

So waste your time answering it. Stop whining. You're the only one here whining.

Answer it or don't.

You don't tell me what to do. I don't tell you what to do.

Whining like this is embarrassing.

Your whining is embarrassing.

[–]socks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I replied to the question. You're just whining.

[–]socks 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

Thanks for the interesting post. I hope others at Saidit will genuinely try to respond (with something more than insults).

to make an argument for any non-mainstream idea that is designed to educate, inform, and thoroughly convince a truly objective being.

1 - ...The problem is belief and how strongly personal beliefs have motivated many here to criticize anything or anyone they don't believe as wrong or fraudulent, and they will go to great lenghts to locate literally anything online that supports those beliefs (especially disinformation and misinformation).

2 - As you see in some of the responses, many here are very curious about the identities and motivations of the users. This should not be important, especially for those engaged at the top of the Pyramid of Debate....

3 - As for the non-mainstream objective argument, there are several to choose from, and I am surprised that you've not received much of a response to this. Most Saiditors seem to appreciate that the mainstream news media and politicians will not do enough to respond to the abuses of Israel and pro-Israel lobbyists and supporters. One has to look to non-mainstream sources and others for information and proposals for responses to the crimes of Israel, much of which is rather obvious. Many Jews are also against the abuses by the Israel government. The initial post-war plan for Israel should be re-examined, as it's created unforseen problems, abuses, crime, and warfare in the region and other countries, via espionage, money laundering, genocide, etc. etc. There are some in /s/DebateAltRight who are inspired by the practices of Israel as an 'ethonstate' and they want a similar ethnostate somewhere in the US, with similar approaches to aparthied regulations, NeoNazi authoritarianism and genocide. But I don't know if most Saiditors would agree to this.

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    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Mostly fallacious.

    [–]Retardation_station 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Smells like cum and bleach in here, op.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)