Drag Queen Story Hour: One of the worst public relations fails I've ever seen by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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Pedophiles, Jules.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Happy Thanksgiving to the three or four Americans that post here 🦃

/s/LGBDropTheT is shadowbanning people by Vulptex in SaidIt

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It's because there's a troll or team of trolls that's dedicated to harassing them so they combed through their subscribers and I guess shadowbanned anyone who hadn't been confirmed to be a real user. The sub was private for months. I'm honestly surprised they're on s/all, my understanding is that they never wanted to be.

Matt Walsh by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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I dug around to try and find you an article and I can't find one that has a good summary. I'll link if I do later. Some arguments I anticipate them using:

  1. Biological sex is immutable, and the sexes are not interchangeable.

  2. Redefining words does not change the substance of what is being defined (for instance, a definition of marriage is "a union of opposites") they'll use "what is a woman?" for this.

  3. One group's rights should not be established at the expense of another group's rights.

  4. The state has an obligation to protect a child's well being that applies to gay marriage and adoption (they'll draw from activism against transgender grooming for this)

  5. The state cannot force speech or force a credence.

Matt Walsh by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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Yeah, he started off during "The Great Evangelization" which was a Pope Benedict push to have Catholics promote their faith online. When Francis was elected he moved into anti-abortion activism, and now into gender criticism.

I don't think y'all realize how aware conservatives are of gender critical feminism and the arguments it makes. Not because they agree with it, but just because they have access to a broader range of information than liberals do . Your average Republican could list off a few feminist arguments against gender identity (without realizing where they come from.)

San Francisco's new guaranteed income program for transpeople by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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I'm sorry, this is supposed to tell us what a maverique is and they have this at the bottom of the page?

Maverique is a newly coined word with a definition that is still being tweaked.

It's your identity and you don't know what it means?

San Francisco's new guaranteed income program for transpeople by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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You wild man lol

Matt Walsh by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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He's a devout Catholic and has been an anti-abortion activist for years. Also, it has to be said, the arguments we make against gender theory can also be applied to marriage. Get ready for Republicans to start doing that a lot. We're having a gay marriage rematch next year.

TRA who destroyed the Michigan Women's Music Festival found guilty of murdering two lesbians and their son by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Yep. If they're dragging their feet it's because there's political pressure on them not to prosecute.

San Francisco's new guaranteed income program for transpeople by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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In case it wasn't made clear in the OP, I think this is a money laundering scheme. You don't have to provide any proof of gender identity, so theoretically anyone can qualify. This money is going to go to political allies of whoever is handling this office in San Francisco.

San Francisco's new guaranteed income program for transpeople by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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Honestly, a pretty good drag name. As a gender, according to a quick Google search it means:

Maverique is a term for a non-binary gender identity that is defined by autonomy and view about one's internal sense of self which is not related to or derived from manhood or womanhood, but also is not neutrois or a form of agender.

Ok!

TRA who destroyed the Michigan Women's Music Festival found guilty of murdering two lesbians and their son by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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I mean NPR is basically religious radio. It's like expecting EWTN to report on a church scandal.

TRA who destroyed the Michigan Women's Music Festival found guilty of murdering two lesbians and their son by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Sad that I'm so excited about this... but fantastic! He didn't get away with it!

This is an extremely long gap between the arrest and the trial. That's usually an indication of corruption of some kind, I think it's a much bigger deal than it looks that he has actually been convicted.

#LGBWithoutTheT is trending again by wafflegaff in LGBDropTheT

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Yeah, no. I use Twitter and there's already been a significant improvement in the site function. I never had a blue check, so worries about that aren't my problem. They are noticeably censoring much less and the general mood on the site has lightened a great deal.

Synthia China Blast (or whatever his name is) got released from prison a couple days ago and immediately jumped on Twitter to complain about feminists. He rightly was excoriated and I could feel a sense of healing. Nature is finding its balance again.

I don't hate Elon Musk, he seems fine. I never hated Jack Dorsey either. Elon runs Twitter better than Jack did.

#LGBWithoutTheT is trending again by wafflegaff in LGBDropTheT

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I love Elon Musk and what he's done with Twitter. He shut down the propaganda machine and equitized journalism, it's a beautiful thing to see and we're all benefitting from it.

Poking through the tweets, they're mostly coming from straight British women, which makes sense given that's it's midday over there right now. We'll see if the hashtag is still going strong in a few hours.

Sexual orientation vs. Misgendering by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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Yes. This is very annoying.

And then everyone clapped by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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It sounds like it may have happened at some sort of pride club meeting.

Oh look, it's a pattern, not a series of unfortunate coincidences by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Yes. They tried to move to a different site and failed, so the new mod reopened the sub.

"I'm LGBTQ+" by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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Did he really say "plus?"

Former poster from here rants on AGB about how hateful he thinks LGBDropTheT is. by DrMantisToboggan in LGBDropTheT

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I think it's weird, just saying. I just checked and I appeared to get archived everytime I argued with a troll. IceKagen never argued with anyone that I saw, though.

Former poster from here rants on AGB about how hateful he thinks LGBDropTheT is. by DrMantisToboggan in LGBDropTheT

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Why did someone take a screenshot of his account on July 17, 2020?

Former poster from here rants on AGB about how hateful he thinks LGBDropTheT is. by DrMantisToboggan in LGBDropTheT

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Icekagen or icekagan or something like that. I remember them because I always thought of Elena Kagan when I saw their comments. They may have deleted their account.

Lol at EA for adding the split attraction model into the game by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Idk, I haven't played it in forever either. My assumption is that this is connected to the algorithm controlling AI behavior and thinking it promotes a certain ideology is a serious stretch.

Former poster from here rants on AGB about how hateful he thinks LGBDropTheT is. by DrMantisToboggan in LGBDropTheT

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He wasn't really ranting, he just seems like he never really questioned gender theory and was upset that other people did. I think reading what gets written here made him uncomfortable and he didn't like the idea of being socially unacceptable.

I remember talking to him, I didn't know he was French. I also thought he was a lesbian.

Lol at EA for adding the split attraction model into the game by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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I don't get how this promotes split attraction. You're controlling character behavior in a video game.

Lol at EA for adding the split attraction model into the game by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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I don't get what the problem is.

"Puberty-blocking procedures promoted by the Biden/Harris Admin are child abuse" - Tulsi Gabbard posts video about recent FDA announcement, 25k likes (USA) by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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Ah, thank you. I missed a lot of that. Explains why Russia gets brought up so irrelavently so frequently lol

"Puberty-blocking procedures promoted by the Biden/Harris Admin are child abuse" - Tulsi Gabbard posts video about recent FDA announcement, 25k likes (USA) by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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What is Russian derangement syndrome supposed to be?

Saw this meme in the storm of #LGBdroptheT support on Twitter! by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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I like this 😁

CNN’s optical delusion - How American progressives get “TERF Island” wrong | Bev Jackson | The Critic Magazine by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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It will forever irk me that crazy Bev Jackson gives interviews on behalf on the LGB Alliance. Her politics are an incoherent mess and she hates bisexual women to the point that it's a prejudice.

She also is too old to be dealing with issues involving modern media. She correctly notes that the CNN writer she is critiquing works the "identity and misinformation in Europe" beat. Does she understand what that means or what this chick's actual purpose being employed by CNN is? Doesn't seem that way.

Telling mainstream media reporters that they are incorrectly framing a major narrative in a competing alternative publication is a very 80s approach to combatting media bias. Alternative newspapers are no longer culturally relevant, except for classifieds and music listings.

The chick is a paid propagandist who knows she's wrong and will never change what she writes. Bev has been blogging about this for more than ten years.

She should know better and this was annoying to read.

What "forced teaming" looks like by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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Why were the colored squares added?

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Ooh, I love this. Thanks so much for making me aware of this site.

Uh Oh by Hannibalboy93 in LGBDropTheT

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Yeah, there's no way in hell she'd tweet this if she knew it was the party line.

She'll apologize and take the browbeating, she has absolutely no idea what's going on. This is the first step in a long journey, Rome wasn't built in a day. She'll have more relevant things to say in a couple of years after she's survived all of the abuse she's about to take.

lgbtqiaborhoods in decline by xandit in LGBDropTheT

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This is due to the 2008 recession, to say it's old news is a massive understatement. Not sure what rock this reporter lives under. Presumably a gay friendly rock.

‘Butch Pal for the Straight Gal’ Premieres by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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This seems lighthearted and I can't find anything to hate about it. My one quibble is that only one of the "Butch Pals" is actually butch. Cute show.

Our sub was named in an article about Reddit bans! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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There's a gay writer for the Federalist named Chad Felix Greene that a lot of people suspected was active on RightwingLGBT on Reddit back when the Reddit sub was still going.

They had another gay writer whose name I've forgotten who borrowed talking points from that sub and posted his own work. Brian, maybe?

The Federalist is Republican current events magazine (one of the major ones.) Their awareness of our existence on Reddit probably came from their gay writers.

To any gay man here, would you seriously date and/or have sex with a TIF? by Kai_Decadence in LGBDropTheT

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If that's bisexuality, there's no such thing as gay.

UK's Department of Education leaves Stonewall diversity program by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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I don't blame them for not trumpeting the news, better to do it quietly, but this is fantastic!

LGB Alliance UK won grant from National Lottery Community Fund to start a helpline supporting LGB youth by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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What does the helpline do?

Mod update June 24th: future of the sub by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Laughs? It's your site now, do what you want to do. They seem like a bunch of sociopathic trolls. Is the only purpose for this sub still existing to "vent?" Meaning laugh at the mentally ill?

Mod update June 24th: future of the sub by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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What is the purpose of this sub? Why are you investing your time? Clarifying this will help make decisions.

"Is a school LGBT club a good idea?"—Transgender Trend; article making the rounds on Twitter today by wafflegaff in LGBDropTheT

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I find it really bizarre to read an article by a lesbian where she repeatedly refers to herself as "same-sex attracted." Back when I was a feminist a decade ago I got ripped a new asshole repeatedly for calling myself gay or using gay in way which insinuated I was including bisexual people.

I was ordered to refer to myself as "same-sex attracted" and when I pointed out that that was the same terminology used by homophobic Christians I essentially got told to shut up and go fuck myself 😂

My how the tables have turned! Excuse you ma'am, that's our word.

I actually don't care about this, and never have, but it's yet another instance in a much larger trend of gay people being forced to eat crow and admit our previous politics of the pre -2016 were deeply flawed. We're in the long painful process of learning that we were wrong sometimes.

Many things are changing rapidly. Change is painful, if it isn't painful it isn't change.

Mod update June 24th: future of the sub by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Well! I'm going to say this because it is true... rdrama is a total shit hole. Which is apparently intensely pro-trans! How's that going to work?

When you say SaidIt is compromised, can you be more specific about the issue? Who or what group? What threat do they pose?

"Compromised" makes it sound like law enforcement is monitoring us.

What is the point of this sub existing anymore?

Roe v. Wade was overturned in the US today. How do you think that will impact LGB acceptance in the country? by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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Obergefell is doomed. Accept it and start preparing. Live by court cases, die by court cases.

I thought at the time that the majority opinion was intentionally poorly written in order to make it easily overturned - so Dems could campaign on it forever like they did with Roe V. Wade.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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This website is phenomenal, thank you.

Like two messy lesbians by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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This girl has absorbed so much homophobia in her life that she's obviously tried to transition in order to escape same sex attraction. Now she's still same sex attracted and she still feels like she's doing something wrong.

This isn't a logical flaw or a misunderstanding of homosexuality, it's just plain old mental illness. What she need is some acceptance and encouragement that it's ok to be gay.

Hairsplitting about which specific type of gay is inappropriate in this case, in my opinion.

Dumb stereotypes you unfortunately live up to by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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A lot of the Bisexual "traits" that Reddit came up with a few years ago are just common personality quirks, especially for wealthy college students.

I like the ADHD theory, though, because now that you've pointed it out I can see how true that is.

Truly visionary article by The Onion from 2001 - Gay-Pride Parade Sets Mainstream Acceptance Of Gays Back 50 Years by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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I also popped in to say how much I miss the Onion.

Postmates gone rogue; doubles, triples down on bottoming by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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I didn't even see that.

Be honest, what do you think of our flag? by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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That shade of magenta was really popular in the late 90s.

Be honest, what do you think of our flag? by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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That is a good point I hadn't thought of.

Postmates gone rogue; doubles, triples down on bottoming by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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Here's the out.com article which declares this a "fun initiative."

https://www.out.com/pride/2022/6/09/postmates-offering-bottom-friendly-menu-pride-month?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=pride

I'm obviously not a man but this would not make me feel respected or valued. Bisexual women in liberal areas will occasionally try having fun with stereotypes and it usually makes my skin crawl/ disgusts me.

I promise I won't ask you questions about culinary choices for bottoming, gay men. The troll in me kind of wants to, though. Celery?

r/AskGayBros is about to fall by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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I'm such a slut for hand holding 😂

Reddit thread about how easy it is to use GPT-3 to bot subreddits by Chipit in MeanwhileOnReddit

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It's an endless problem on LGBDroptheT. There's someone or a group of people dedicated to trolling that one SaidIt with thousands of accounts.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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Lol they probably already have them, given which states we're talking about. There isn't nearly the appetite to reinstate sodomy laws that there is to get rid of gay marriage. Most gay marriage opponents see it as an infringement of their rights or a risk to their rights, whereas gay sex is seen by these same people as something private that doesn't involve them.

There are obviously Christians who would support it, but my guess would be not even a third of the amount of people who would vote against gay marriage.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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I think we'll have to weather some attempts at reinstating sodomy laws, but I'm confident they aren't going to be successful. It's going to be very ugly for a while.

I've never heard of Virgin Media, I guess I should feel lucky. The U.S. has absolutely awful media.

The great drag war of ‘22 by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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This club is in a very wealthy Democratic enclave in Dallas. All the more reason these people should all know better than to do this, but then again I don't understand the intense attraction drag queens hold for straight liberals. I do think they misunderstand and think they're just clowns.

As for the police, this is ill-advised but not illegal. It really rides the line but it is not illegal so the cops are doing their job correctly.

The great drag war of ‘22 by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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This is so embarrassing and everyone involved should know better.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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During the referendum, there were gay marriage supporters who called opponents and people who were on the fence homophobic, and some of these supporters even took down signs that they did not like. This angered a lot of reasonable gay marriage supporters, who threatened to vote no if that behaviour continued, so campaigners of the yes side began disavowing the charlatans.

This was so wise, it's likely why they won. To put it mildly, this is not the way our version of the Yes campaign went about things. They had a very totalitarian, puritanical witch-hunt approach which has now taken over the entire left. Lol at RTÉ feigning neutrality. Our paltry version of that is NPR and it's like listening to psychological programming at a woke reeducation camp.

In America, there should be a contingency plan in case Obergefell is overturned. Personally, given that marriage is devolved to the states in America, it should have been decided by the states. Almost all Americans now would support civil unions at the very least. Hopefully if Obergefell is overturned, most states would choose to keep gay marriage legal.

As these things go, it's a process that takes several years because it involves court cases that have to make it through a couple of rounds of trials before they reach the national court (the Supreme Court.) The current court as it stands will overturn Obergefell and a couple of Justices have made public statements that they intend to. The majority opinion on Obergefell argued that couples have a "right to dignity" guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution. That's difficult to prove.

Honestly, after ten years of arguing against gender theory, gay marriage as a concept is going to be too vulnerable to the same counterarguments that gender identity is. It is guaranteed to lose vote after vote.

Civil unions fulfill the same functional purpose without all of the philosophical baggage. You can get homophobic people to vote for civil unions out of tolerance or a desire to increase economic stability. I think at some point someone will take some political leadership and start mounting campaigns for civil unions in the U.S.. Probably beginning in the interior of the country. I'm a little nobody but I've certainly volunteered in elections many times and I intend to show up for these campaigns with bells on. It's the future.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Post a gay hero of yours, explain why you look up to them. Simple as. 😉

Amber Heard by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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She's all yours 🤢

Be honest, what do you think of our flag? by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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I obviously don't like it. It was designed in 1998 and it looks like it. I also think the blue for men, pink for women, purple for mixing them symbolism is a little trite.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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Haha Beto for Governor tm would happily take £20 off of you.

Gay Heroes- Gallus Mag, lesbian feminist activist 🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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As a side note, I feel like I need to say that I actually interacted with her when she was on Reddit and she was an unbearable asshole. I didn't like her personally, but she is still a role model and her accomplishments are undeniable. You did that shit, Gallus, and nobody else did. Thank you.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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I hope everyone's picking up on the gay heroes thing I'm trying to do. Hint hint

r/lgbt - The Heartbreak of Aphobia - and in pride month no less by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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The prefix "a" in English is used to indicate "without" or "a lack of" in the construction of a noun.

In the term asexual, it is used semi-correctly to indicate a lack of sexuality or sexual orientation. Without sexuality.

Aphobia means "without phobia." A fearless, open-minded, inclusive person would be described as "aphobic."

Not whatever this dumb shit is.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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Ireland and the U.S. have a lot of profound differences, the different approach to social progress being probably the biggest (at least that I know about.) Irish people seem to appreciate a give-and-take more and to be able to reach consensus naturally without as much formal debate. We have to treat everything like a philosophical proposition and we aren't necessarily good at doing that, either 😬

I do need to point out, when I said vitriolic and brutal I meant to pro-gay marriage side. It started within the community and moved outward toward political enemies. I was a teenager heading into college during the gay marriage campaign and, although I was a few years late to have experienced the gay community before, I watched it collapse. I had originally written a massive multi-paragraph explanation of the social changes I witnessed, but I think that's a unnecessary level of detail so I'll spare you 😉

The gay marriage campaign brought with it the isolation and lack of support services that we still see for same-sex attracted people in the U.S. This is another profound difference between you and us- Ireland has government social services that are much more detailed and are easier to access, whereas the onus is on us to take care of our own here. We don't do that.

Fundamentally, there is so much bad blood and so many burned bridges due to the gay marriage fight in the U.S. that once Obergefell is overturned, most of the country isn't going to care.

It also needs to be said that most of the arguments against gender identity that we've rehearsed here and in other places for the past decade can be persuasively used against gay marriage as a concept. Conservatives can and will do this.

I'm planning on campaigning for civil unions because I think even in the most benighted parts of the country you can get it legislated. Live by court cases, die by court cases. You'll never have security or stability until you have some sort of consensus, even from people who hate you, that your relationship deserves institutional support.

Gay Republicans are going to be the ones who actually address this problem and find solutions. I'm not looking for leadership from the same people who got us into this mess to begin with.

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Agreed. Engaging in the exact behavior that user engaged in before being banned from the bi sub and showed up shortly after their ban.

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Ha, I assumed Mouton was a gay man. I forgot about straight women. Whoops.

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You can check the ones I've evaluated on this thread. There were a couple of posters identifying as lesbians that I just can't evaluate.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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I don’t care if another person is homophobic as long as he or she doesn’t bother me, or is willing to work with me on things that need to be worked on.

I feel the same way. Republican homophobia is usually much easier to deal with than Democratic (meaning the party.) If a Republican is hostile to you it's usually either based on wholesale ignorance or on a belief that we're amoral or immoral in some way. If you can demonstrate that you value and respect them, that you have humanistic beliefs, they'll usually calm down and cooperate with you.

The gay marriage fight was vitriolic and brutal in the U.S. and it left a lot of open wounds that go unacknowledged. There is a tendency among people who were on the receiving end of the vitriol to fixate on it. Ireland is the only nation I'm aware that voted for gay marriage- in the U.S. it was decreed by the Supreme Court.

What will end up happening in the next few years is that court decision will be overturned and we'll have to campaign state by state all over again and actually persuade and compromise with other people this time.

I think in twenty years or so we'll end up with civil unions as the institution nationally and a few states which refer to civil unions as marriages.

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u/Neo_shadow_lurker Definitely yes. Frequent contributor.

u/NoMorePatriarchy Extensive comment history, definitely seems like a real person.

u/odius Yes. Frequent contributor.

u/picklesarnie Unsure. I'd like a lesbian to evaluate her post history.

u/pollyesther No. Scarce comment history, has never participated in this sub, 9 month silence before commenting on SaidIt main about DroptheT going private. Sus.

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u/KimiORabu No. Seems to be a real person, but has a very abrasive comment history I'd like a lesbian to weigh in on

u/Kingdickthe2nd definitely yes, frequent contributor

u/Mermer Yes, extensive comment history, appears to be a real woman.

u/Mikulbleu Yes. Extensive comment history, certainly seems like a real guy

u/Moutonelectrique Yes. Extensive comment history, I'm convinced he's a real person

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u/Porphyria Yes, extensive comment history, appears to be a real lesbian

u/Priesttheycalledhim Yes, active on the bisexual sub, I'm convinced he is a real person

u/RafaelZalinsky No. New account, only comment was on that thread.

u/Rage-Xion Yes, extensive comment history, appears to be a real lesbian.

u/redgreenblue No, sporadically active on the bisexual sub only. Scarce comment history. I am not convinced this is a real person.

Video game company offers variety of flag icons for pride month. Something seems to be missing hmm... by Q-Continuum-kin in LGBDropTheT

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I certainly hope the asexuals are flavored with white chocolate, dark chocolate, and caramel the way they look like they are.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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They're still homophobic, but they are open to persuasion by people like this guy who have distinguished themselves. It is great to see.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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It brings in more money, attention, and potential voter support if you're known outside your state. For instance, there's a perennial Democratic candidate in Texas named Beto O'Rourke who isn't popular within that actual state but has a high profile nationally. He gets showered with so much attention by the media and he brings in so many volunteers from other places and funding, he'll be running for office forever in TX and never winning.

In smaller states it's not really needed but California is so large you essentially require a national effort in order to have your candidate win.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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He's a Republican nutjob too, I am also a Republican nutjob.

Conservative media was signaling for months that they were preparing to back Grenell to run, he made comments repeatedly that he was seriously considering running, Caitlyn Jenner's weird sideshow campaign came across like it was a PR stunt aimed at making Grenell look good in comparison... I don't know why he didn't do it. I have to assume it was polling.

The GOP ended up running Larry Elder, who is a popular conservative talk radio host in Cali but not known outside the state.

Gay Heroes- Ric Grenell, the first gay U.S. cabinet official 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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I was so bitterly disappointed when he didn't run for Governor in California.

Everyone here needs to participate in helping us vet users and think about rules & policies—please step up by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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I'll take this a separate comment- a, let's say cultural, issue on this forum is the tendency to abuse the report button and to involve the moderator in disagreements that could have been handled with just a comment.

The moderator is not the babysitter.

Everyone here needs to participate in helping us vet users and think about rules & policies—please step up by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Well, I think we all need to sit and think a little about why we're here and what we want from this forum.

The original purpose of both this site and the reddit sub was to allow for political organization. We have repeatedly decided as a group that we want this to be a social forum instead.... so in my opinion we should be fostering that aspect.

I have always complained about the amount of cruelty and denigration that goes on here toward social media users on other sites. You don't need to "vent" four times a day every day. Think of the humanity of the people you're talking about (and also talking to) when you comment.

We need to find something else to talk about. Get personalities, people.

Smooth N' Sassy Kraft Gayo- the Pride Mayonnaise by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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😂

Video game company offers variety of flag icons for pride month. Something seems to be missing hmm... by Q-Continuum-kin in LGBDropTheT

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Some of these flags look like delicious taffy. Not sure what that means.

Bisexuals- unicorn cake

Lesbians- raspberry tangerine

Trans- cotton candy

Bottom right (who knows-) tuxedo

For TumbleweedFireflies by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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I certainly, also, hope that we all remember to treat each other like valuable whole human beings and not things that have no emotions 💜

Edit: but just to be clear TF is gone because she was not being treated like a human being with emotions.

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Didn't see u/MarkJefferson on there, might have missed him.

Smooth N' Sassy Kraft Gayo- the Pride Mayonnaise by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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Just to be clear- this is satire and not a real product!

Lesbians, are you afraid of each other? by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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Are you going to be answering reports now? I'd like a comment from u/MyLongestJourney deleted.

Looks around... by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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I'm glad we could help you. How did we help you though? We spend most of our time bitching and whining and always have.

Girlfriend gives him Pride anxiety by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Your link isn't working for me, Chunk.

Lesbians, are you afraid of each other? by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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It's not a normal reaction, it's an unreasonable reaction. She also kept it up after it was clear that I wasn't making a generalization and was sincerely asking the question. I also said the same in the OP, which she missed, but maybe she misread.

I also don't think if you, Elvira, made me angry and I proceeded to address you as "my dear lesbian" and make snappy remarks and ask you "satisfied, lesbian?" that you would think I was justified in speaking to you that way. You would think that I was deeply prejudiced and would 1. expect me to apologize and 2. expect other bisexuals to correct me for being so vicious to you.

She also thought it was acceptable to laugh at me being sexually assaulted, what's your excuse for that?

Tell her she's being overly emotional, tell her she's misunderstanding. I'm not being unreasonable demanding respectful treatment.