That ban wave seems to have just started

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T18:40:27+00:00

nice to know, but I'd rather pick a better hero than those guys.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-25T22:31:22+00:00

I'm a bit confused about whose decision this was. It looks like it is the advertising agency, Goodby Silverstein, that made this decision. This is an ad agency used by the named companies, but it's unclear if they were involved in making this decision at all.

“We are taking this action to protest the platform’s irresponsible propagation of hate speech, racism, and misleading voter information. We encourage clients and our own people to join us.”

It sounds like if we want to boycott something, it should be this ad agency, and we perhaps we should promote more ethical ad agencies that companies could use.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-27T03:59:29+00:00

A lot of people are concerned about the censorship too.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T17:29:32+00:00

Welcome, speak freely* here.

*as long as you follow the pyramid of debate from the ToS and don't get too much like reddit or voat.

I'm curious what kinds of groupthink and hivemind were you having troubles with, if you feel like saying more here.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T18:41:46+00:00

Some of those subs last night... man... they were all like "oh we've survived all these other ban waves, I'm not worried"

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T14:24:47+00:00

There are a lot of people here who also don't like it. Someone commented (don't remember if it was here or another site) "it's like you get to choose between pepsi and coke every 4 years" for Americans. (Are you speaking of American "left" and "right" here?) I would rather focus on policies and doing well as a country. I'm tired of all this destructive stuff people do to get elected.

SaidIt tries not to police opinions too much so there's probably always going to be people saying stuff you don't like. That doesn't mean they speak for anyone but themselves. You can block individual accounts if you get a comment reply from them by looking at the reply in your inbox.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-25T16:05:07+00:00

Welcome. Let's make something better.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T15:52:44+00:00

as a non-American the constant us vs them mentality to jarring

Just try to remember it's about another person's country, don't feel the need to get caught up in it (beyond being aware of international trends or whatever) because it isn't about you. People sometimes get caught up in something and forget who they're talking to online, that's all.

I prefer "anti-corruption". I've never really been a close part of the conspiracy community but uncovering real corruption and malicious plots is so important. I'm grateful for everyone helping with that. I hope it can stay focused on the important parts.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-27T10:31:10+00:00

You can still support us via eCheck, bitcoin, and physical check by mail.

Guess it's time to stop using payment processors.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T00:54:42+00:00

Maybe I should just cross-post everything interesting and comment here.

I would welcome this kind of x-posting.

Maybe a "nopolitics" sub would be nice to have here, it could x-post all the interesting non-politics posts for a little while, until they get to be a big enough volume it's no longer practical.

What kind of other topics would you like to engage with more here?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T18:42:53+00:00

what's funny is how some of the banned groups are probably happy about other groups getting banned...

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-27T03:41:34+00:00

Hello! I don't like the censorship either.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T20:55:41+00:00

or put the date in the title. Sept. 2017.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-25T16:08:24+00:00

There are probably a lot of great employees available on the market right now in the wake of all this. She (and presumably many others who have not made the news) were not fired for poor job performance.

Many of these people have probably even demonstrated excellent character by being willing to take a public stand for what they believe is right.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-24T01:34:58+00:00

Hello! It feels a little strange to say "Welcome!" when I'm just another participant here right now. But you seem so happy to be here! So, Welcome!

It's ironic....I came to Reddit to find a non-mainstream community, and now Reddit has turned into one of the most mainstream and single-thought-ed comunity, of all!

reminds me of another company that claimed it would never become evil...

the inability to cancel content, but only to "kick it"

I think this is a feature on Ruqqus, not SaidIt.

It sounds like you have some positive hopes for what these kind of media sites can be, which is a lot better than Reddit is right now. It's nice to see you here, and I'd be very happy for some or all of those hopes to be the reality here.

I hope the creators/admins /u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr see your message too, they've put countless hours and lots of thought into making the site what it is so I'm sure it's nice for them to hear some appreciation for that.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-23T04:14:55+00:00

I think being a platform for high-quality intellectual discussion is consistent with how SaidIt describes itself, and consistent with the content policy and other design decisions.

I don't think planning for SaidIt to remain always small is necessarily the right thing to do though. It may grow, and it seems like the admins would like it to.

The comparison to discord is interesting. I don't feel cozy and friendly here quite the same way I have even on larger discord channels, perhaps because it feels less personal, less like a chat/hangout and more like, well, a discussion forum. Also keep in mind that most of the traffic here is people just reading without commenting or even voting.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-19T03:49:44+00:00

All content hosted on our Service must comply with the state and federal laws of where the service is provided. Currently, we host only out of New York, United States.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T22:37:09+00:00

I never used many of these companies, and I've stopped using others since. These will be the hardest for me:

I can move my bank account to a local bank. That's probably the highest impact thing I can do.
Mastercard: fuck. How tf am I supposed to engage in commerce? Visa and mastercard? Do I just send checks by mail now?
I could move my email account to Protonmail (or a better alternative that doesn't give in to DDOSers). Google docs I'll need an alternative to. I guess I can just keep that stuff locally, I don't really use it for anything that really needs sharing. Maybe I already use alternative browsers but I'm not sure what's best. searx? duckduckgo? startpage? qwant? I'll need to download my email data. Youtube will be hard but I guess I gotta do it.
Twitter will be hard, I follow people there. Maybe I can learn how to make a tweet mirroring bot to the fediverse. No, that's probably not realistic. Fuck. Those tweets get me through the day and provide my news. This one I will need help with, comments appreciated.
Guess I gotta stop visiting reddit subs for good.
There are a lot of payment processor and fund transfer stuff on that list. We need some legit options to switch to.
Mozilla, yikes. Guess it's time to ditch firefox? Suggestions?
Microsoft?! Time to do that switch to Linux I've been putting off.
No more gardening supplies from Lowe's... or Home Depot...
No logitech purchases, I potentially needed some new hardware...
Intel?! and AMD? How tf am I supposed to do computing? I think we need a list of computer hardware and software suppliers that are legit.
FexEx?! Ebay?! Alternatives please?
Can commit to not using Discord again.
CVS, yikes.
Creative Commons?!
Burt's Bees? :'( I liked their stuff, but fortunately I already found another lip balm maker. This is something your local small business artisinal beauty products maker can do, btw.
I think I gotta get a new cell provider.
Amazon :(

We need a full legit whole supply line, guys. This is absurd. Don't ever fucking sell out ever under any fucking circumstance every fucking again, you guys here me? No letting somebody "buy" your company. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book and they've been doing it since the invention of agriculture.

This is a longer list than I thought it would be. I think I'll start with the banks, that seems like the highest-impact. Started doing this several years back but never made the transfer, ashamed now that I didn't. Time to go look up all that old info the Occupy people put together about banking.

Any helpful info about alternatives greatly appreciated.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T02:01:33+00:00

voat and ruqqus do go down sometimes, you're sure it's not just that?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T17:41:56+00:00

Ehhh heh sweatdrop I don't always read the articles. Perhaps I should do that more. And make more of an effort to post insightful stuff or stuff that otherwise actually contributes to the discussion. I guess these forums aren't really meant as a place to just socialize.

Glad you're having a better time here so far.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T15:19:59+00:00

Hello! I don't like the censorship or creepy datamining either.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-23T18:52:23+00:00

That's actually pretty interesting. I know there are a lot of Jewish people in influential positions in the "alt-right," some people believe it's a sort of controlled opposition and doesn't actually represent white interests.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-23T15:10:14+00:00

What is your motivation behind posting the content you do?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-20T16:42:19+00:00

Thank you /u/d3rr!! Now we can have moderation more under our own personal control: can't stop us from listening if we want to, and can't make us listen if we don't want to.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-19T03:42:41+00:00

What about the provider kiwifarms uses?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-30T03:36:06+00:00

kindof thinking out loud here

We need shelter, food, clean water, clothing, and community.

Yes I have been thinking about this. I have felt for a long time like I don't really understand "money" the way I understand needing food or something. I was thinking maybe listing these sorts of real things, maybe in order of necessity, is a way to start building an infrastructure. Idk. Maybe not quite the right way to think of it. But something more material than "money". Though I think we should still be supporting the USD, we rely on the US for protection and it would be nice to pay down the debt one day.

security / not getting attacked / killed
shelter
water
sanitation
food

Community. Yeah. That's a very important one.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-30T01:37:42+00:00

Let's not be divided in the way they divided us. Before we might be left or right, men or women, artists or engineers, we are people. We are all here looking for community in one way or another. I hope this is or becomes a place where we can start from points of agreement, and if that means abandoning the way issues or ideas have been framed by others, then all the better.

I would love to see more of this, and I think this is a clear statement of the problem.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T23:11:06+00:00

Texas is going blue, stop encouraging people to get complacent. We're running out of places to run, we need to be strategic about our territorial choices.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T17:47:56+00:00

How is this legal? Doesn't the US constitution prohibit this kind of discrimination too?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-27T12:06:21+00:00

Where have you noticed this? I haven't been on reddit much lately.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-25T01:54:25+00:00

Thanks for posting about this. I saw him claim on notabug that he was unable to post here, and I actually did not believe him because it didn't seem like something that would happen here.

I would really really love to see more transparency (built-in or manually noted for the time being) with regard to warnings, mutes, and bans.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-24T01:57:33+00:00

Happy to see people buying guns, the more "good guys" that have the guns the better.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-23T18:17:14+00:00

This entire comment is just ad hominem and name-calling. Respectfully, I'm not particularly interested in engaging with participants who want to engage in this way with me.

Admins /u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr I'm not sure if this is something you want to address or not in regards to how this participant is attempting to influence the site culture, so I'll just leave this notification here.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-24T22:01:28+00:00

maybe another option: zensurfrei.com

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-19T03:52:39+00:00

I think it would help if the Pyramid of Debate rules were much clearer. It's a bit subjective and unevenly enforced right now. This creates a problem where neither users nor mods really know what the standards are, and enforcement is uneven and thus unfair. And where users don't have a clear idea of what's being censored and what's not.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-19T00:56:13+00:00

I know "there's no political solution" is popular in some parts around here, but people wouldn't be doing desperate things with the vote if it didn't matter at all. Vote.org says it's mission is to get people from generally low-turnout groups to vote. I don't know if they had the alt-right in mind when they wrote this, but I think many people here qualify, considering all the discouragement people get for voting and political participation in these parts sometimes. And if you are younger or less wealthy, you probably are part of a measured to be part of a lower turnout demographic.

I don't want to tell anyone what to think, I'm just one random person. But since you've probably heard from a bunch of people telling you not to vote already: please vote. Your vote counts. You count. This is important. And the site tries to make it easy. And if you can do it without detracting from other activities that are more important right now, please help your family and friends and frens all vote too. There are a lot of people who don't want you to, which might mean that it's that much more important that you do.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-30T19:38:38+00:00

There's also "rules for radicals" for using leftist tactics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals#The_Rules

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T22:53:03+00:00

well they just got a lot less comfortable.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T15:46:52+00:00

some comments regarding parler, not sure what to make of it overall but thought I may as well post this

We are going to put this Parler trend to bed right now.

-The app requires you to facedox yourself to be fully functional.

-You're required to give your phone number.

-It is owned by a Jew.

-Gatekeepers, grifters, and establishment figures are promoting it as THEE alternative

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T06:26:30+00:00

Someone I know is currently fighting it.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T22:07:09+00:00

ah, yeah, I get another URL like that when looking at past revisions. Thanks, it was strange and I didn't know what that was doing there in the url.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T22:05:38+00:00

I'd love to see this feature!

With the current system if I'm not enjoying someone's content, I have to directly interact with them if I want to add them to my content filter list, which creates an unnecessary conflict point.

There is an option in Reddit to block a user after reporting their content, maybe it would be easy to add something like that to SaidIt too.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T22:51:39+00:00

Yes I like this feature! Works for /comments too.

also if you friend accounts, /s/friends will display only content from those friended accounts.

OP /u/Nemesis

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T16:47:30+00:00

Well, I called my senators! Not sure if calling or email is better in this day and age, and I probably would have done better with a script and more education on the issue, but it seems important and clear enough to me from what I know now. Glad I did that. Didn't take too long, though I probably did sound a bit foolish. Oh well, better than not doing something.

They have some decent voice mail message though. "It's an honor to serve as your representative and I'm honored to hear your thoughts on current issues." We're supposed to engage with our government, guys. We're supposed to be on the same side. We're supposed to be working together to take responsible care of our country.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T15:39:48+00:00

that's awesome! how do I access the multi-sub function to save a multi?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T15:20:38+00:00

9 crossposts? Did I make 9 crossposts? I'm confused, what do you mean?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T12:03:55+00:00

Actually /u/magnora7 or /u/d3rr Is it possible to make multi-subs here the way you can on reddit? We could make a "nopolitics" multi that way

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T00:01:59+00:00

I remember hearing about it a few years ago, I think on gab. Not sure why I didn't go there then.

I feel like the fediverse is a good replacement for twitter, it just needs wider adoption.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-25T04:34:15+00:00

I have been wanting to move anyway for other reasons, but blue states are way less attractive destinations right now.

I'm not sure if this is a positive development. Perhaps we should be making some effort to retake blue areas rather than forever fleeing. There's no point in anyone throwing their lives away or harming themselves or their family, but at some point we're going to run out of places to run to. It's probably about time to reverse "white flight".

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-25T01:02:52+00:00

Oh I see. Part of the reason I wanted to post it publicly was because of transparency, and, well, I just feel more comfortable with public interactions in general, usually. It seems safer.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-23T16:59:11+00:00

Liberia still seems like the better solution to me. This solution is better than some possible outcomes though. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

eta: Ghana (and perhaps other African countries?) have also been courting the African diaspora population.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-23T16:10:10+00:00

The Liberia solution seems good to me. It lets people go home and repairs the act of transporting people far away from home across an ocean.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-23T04:42:41+00:00

I don't think abandoning all cities is a good idea. Aren't cities important for tech and strength?

I think there may be some aspect of life stages going on here. Cities are good for new possibilities, for proving yourself, for meeting a spouse. Country is good for settling down and raising kids someplace safe. Younger people may tend to be more exploratory.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-23T04:33:39+00:00

Hello!

Did you ever read /r/rightwinglgbt on reddit? It had some pretty chill conversation, comparatively. I think it started out being a Milo Yiannopoulos fanclub, but it eventually became a pretty chill right-leaning LGBT-focused sub without all the aggressive ideology policing.

I saw this video posted there a while ago encouraging acceptance and critical thinking within the LGBT community, maybe you'd like it maybe not.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-25T21:52:09+00:00

I wish there were a website that keeps track of these things.

maybe: https://legiscan.com/US/bill/SB3398/2019

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-25T18:51:59+00:00

Heard more about it today: https://act.eff.org/action/stop-the-earn-it-bill-before-it-breaks-encryption

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-21T01:54:19+00:00

I ended up checking the sub's mod log and I saw the mod action where he changed it there (along with a few other actions he apparently took). Was there already a post about what happened that I missed? Or do you have a link to the convo where you discussed it with him? (Or, if it was a dm, would it be ok to publish it?) I think it's important for people to be able to see how the admin is handling this.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-17T14:46:22+00:00

You found it! ... I guess you looked for the text? I tried doing a reverse image search but I didn't find anything.

I didn't realize the companies listed in OP were already the worst-of-the-worst. There's a lot of news I miss so I don't really know what different companies have done.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-16T15:15:56+00:00

Yeah, I saw the links in your OP before but I hadn't seen an ordered list before, that's what was so interesting to me about the jpeg I linked. It seemed like an ordered list was in the works here on the sub wiki so if the work's completed elsewhere it might be worth linking. I linked this jpeg on the wiki. I wish I knew what project it was from but I only happened upon that jpeg.

I replied a while back that I thought the first, highest-impact thing I could do was to change where I'm banking, and after seeing this ordered list I feel vindicated in that. I've learned some about how to do that and started exploring other options but I haven't completed that step yet.

I'm not sure how high priority this project is for you right now but I thought I may as well ask since it seemed like an ordered list was the next step for the project as you were thinking of it about a month ago (idk if things have changed since then). It seems like the majority of the donations have come from only Bank of America so something that targeted even just only them might have an effect, and there are a lot of choices for banks. IIRC Bank of America has also previously come under question during the Occupy Wallstreet stuff for investing in companies people thought were engaging in unethical practices. I don't know if they changed their practices in response at that time.

It's your project, and I don't know whether or not this is the highest priority activity right now. If other stuff is higher priority right now then that's probably where the focus should stay right now. But I remembered this project when I saw that list and I haven't been keeping up with stuff here as much lately, so I figured I may as well ask.

ETA: Looks like Bank of America's donations did not go to BLM specifically.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-08-16T01:40:09+00:00

Has a complete list been made somewhere else? I saw this elsewhere but I don't know what it's from.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-07-06T20:51:12+00:00

that does not bode well for open source browsers, is there an alternative that does not have this problem?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-07-06T20:29:45+00:00

Thank you for the reply. I appreciate having the position stated openly and clearly.

I've copied a translation of Colossians 3: 18-25 for convenience here:

18 Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.

20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.

21 Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged.

22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. 23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, 24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. 25 Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism.

(from biblegateway)

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-30T19:37:23+00:00

what if instead of "businesses" people organized economic activity around the economic needs of those who were part of their kinship network? would you consider that an act of aggression?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-30T19:09:05+00:00

What does "submit" mean? To whom and by whom is it done? Under what circumstances? That's what I'm asking. It is very easy to tell a nice story with pleasant pictures and words and implications of good outcomes, but nice pictures and pleasant words can also be used to paint a good picture over something bad. I'm asking for the unembelished full statement of what this sub is advocating people do.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T23:15:59+00:00

Can it be ruled that they're discriminating against Whites under US law?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T23:08:22+00:00

imo racism was always a code-word for anti-white. doesn't mean I don't prefer cooperation with others because I recognize that.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T23:06:47+00:00

and whites are a minority in SA.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T22:47:22+00:00

Let's give 'em something compelling to see.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T22:42:30+00:00

Their strategy is to prevent us from being able to organize. We can do the same, disrupt their ability to organize, supply themselves, etc. That's entropy-lowering.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-29T15:56:00+00:00

The world we created and tolerate.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T23:13:30+00:00

Is ginger native to the Hawaiian Islands?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T23:10:06+00:00

bump

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T22:32:38+00:00

I also don't like it when I see people thinking American politics has much relevance outside America. Sure, we share lots of common heritage and we should appreciate that and have solidarity with each other where it makes sense, but when some guy in Finland starts talking about gender neutral pronouns in a language that natively has them? Really?... Like you said, each country has their own problems they should be keeping their focus on. We can learn from each other but even then we must adapt ideas for our own local context.

I also feel we have some shared issues though. For example some of the non-free-speech stuff in some European countries worries me. Yes I don't live there and it's not my place to say, but it feels like criminalizing anti-immigration sentiment in Britain is related to suppression of anti-immigration sentiment in the US. (Though yes, Britain and US are more connected than some.) Or the anti-holocaust-denial laws in Germany seem worrying to me, even though I'm not a German. Or people telling the Ukraine they shouldn't compare the Holodomor to the Holocaust. And there are some campaigns that are clearly international, like the list of countries and their laws regarding homo- relationships. I don't want to intrude since these aren't my countries and I don't understand a lot of the context there, but if people from those countries wanted to work with me on what feels like a shared issue, I would want to work with them.

Does the US really have such a big influence on social media comparatively? People have their own local languages to do their politics in, don't they? A lot of people use English for international stuff I assume, but for local stuff? Maybe it would help to try to separate political stuff by country more visibly.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T19:58:28+00:00

Is this to say that, if it were not American-specific, you might be interested? As an American I think I should be primarily US-focused, but I think some of these same issues affect people in other countries too, especially Western countries. Do you relate to some of these issues? Would you be interested in collaboration in some other way, though perhaps not on this specific topic in this specific way?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T18:05:40+00:00

Imo telegram is suspect because they were trying to control information flow related to covid. The fediverse seems the most promising to me right now. https://social.quodverum.com seems somewhat similar to SaidIt's vision imo.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T17:25:47+00:00

"Nation" comes from the same "nat-" as "nativity" and "natal". Birth. It's about the people. People need a safe place to exist and thrive, that's primarily what nationalism is about imo.

eta: to be clear, not just "any people" in general from anywhere, but specifically the people that are part of a specific origin or birth.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T16:49:45+00:00

I'd get behind anti-aggression. I don't like meddling in countries around the world. I'd rather have positive relations.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T15:24:32+00:00

Well I'm glad we're learning more about it.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-28T15:13:43+00:00

Rather than trying to make an up-front commitment to contribute something, I think my interest will be apparent in my participation (or not) as this project moves forward.

I am extremely disturbed by the violent totalitarian leftist stuff. There are a lot of things going on that I don't think are ok.

I think we should be working together as Americans (well, I'm American, so I'm coming from that perspective, but this kind of stuff affects the entire Western world.) So I guess we should be working together as Westerners, and perhaps on a larger scale than that as well.

As an American living in a democracy, I believe it's ultimately the responsibility of the people to maintain the country properly.

I have some of ideas, but presumably others do too? It doesn't feel difficult to come up with ideas. It also feels like a big question. Maybe I will have to think about it some.

The elites have the media, Hollywood, the school system, corrupt politicians, major corporations, the biggest tech companies, and even violent groups like Antifa and BLM all working to divide us. We desperately need to coalesce into some kind of functional group to counter this. Hopefully this can be a nucleation site for a counter offensive.

I would push back against the use of "elites". There's nothing wrong with excellence; what's wrong is the violence, abuse of the system, totalitarianism, etc. In my mind. It feels to me like the threat is violent, totalitarian bolshevism/communism, not "elites". I think this "anti-elite" (including anti-rich) sentiment is another form of divide-and-conquer, and it's one that SaidIt has a problem with. I think it is part of the bolshevist subversion.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-27T13:15:41+00:00

I think they're not quite as smart as they think they are. People make mistakes. Smart people get too into their theories and sometimes aren't correct.

Or they're self-interested and believe their primary duty is to take care of themselves, as is everyone's, so they have used their time to do that instead.

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-27T04:30:08+00:00

Does "Garcia" not make use of any of these products?

What is this from?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T21:45:45+00:00

Did he say what changed his mind?

yellow_algebra_31 · 2020-06-26T18:43:45+00:00

I recently started a design/print business from home. So wish me luck. ;]

Good luck!! :)

I've never done professional design work but I'm happy to see helpful subs.

yellow_algebra_31

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