[PyramidPractice] Are governments too opaque with COVID-19 lockdown policy? by danuker in PyramidPractice

[–]danuker[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know what I expected from this discussion... You're preaching to the quire.

Redditor finds evidence AI commenting might be far more widespread than we think by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why wouldn't a propagandist create a new account instead of buying old ones? Here at least, there is not much that you get from having high karma.

Redditor finds evidence AI commenting might be far more widespread than we think by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]danuker 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is likely. You should make the account creation captcha harder or longer or more varied.

Google Drive takes down user’s personal copy of Plandemic after it was flagged by The Washington Post by AliceofX in KotakuInAction

[–]danuker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You could host each others' personal server ( such as Nextcloud), though that might take a bit to set up.

Louis Rossmann: iOS Catalina's SecureBoot makes you lose your data when T2 chip fails by danuker in technology

[–]danuker[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, you can no longer replace, say, a network card. Luckily I don't use Apple stuff.

Saidit.net Canary #13 by magnora7 in SaiditCanary

[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A GPG-signed canary would allow you to publish authenticated messages irrespective of the security status of the website.

The only attackers that can fake a valid signature from a consistent key are the ones that have access to the computer used to sign.

Where do you report rile breaking content? Does the report button actually works? by GreenCappy in SaidIt

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You ask me? He got a gag order, so he can't answer.

"Toxic workplace" by comments in whatever

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess different folks care about different aspects of a conversation.

Some people take offense when you correct their spelling, others embrace that.

To me, it is very vague what "toxic" means. The Wiki article you linked talks about counterproductive infighting - well, if you're trying to get to the truth, the pyramid is a stab at showing the way towards finding truth.

Ethics and professional conduct - how offensive is too offensive for a joke? do we all have to act like professionals? do we have to refrain from insults? am I not allowed to say person X's argument is dumb? How about person X being dumb themselves?

Even using the wrong gender offends some people. Others get offended from being asked to use a specific gender.

Many people have many definitions - some might be seeking emotional comfort, or politeness, or a specific form or tone.

I am afraid that, bar concrete examples of what bothers you, I can't find a community for you. But it might be that there are none that satisfy your definition of a "non-toxic" community.

You have no right not to deny vaccinations by jamesK_3rd in politics

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect the meaning of "life" and "pursuit of happiness" have a relative value. If there were a perfectly safe vaccine, what do you think of the following interpretations, in this context?

  • Life: the right not to be killed by viruses from other people
  • Pursuit of happiness: the right to move about freely, unvaccinated

As far as I can see, it is a question of degree. If a virus meant certain death, and people went about spreading it, it would be tantamount to murder. But if it's "little risk", then the right to move about prevails.

Is my view different from yours? (don't expect a reply from me soon; will go to sleep).

Coronavirus Cuts More Than Ten Years Of Life On Average, Scottish Study Reveals by Nemacolin in news

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the years-lost scale of the World Health Organization

Where is this supposed scale? and how was it used to get 14 from 81? The article does not point that out.

Here's why wearing a hair tie on your wrist is a worse idea than you imagine. by SabaMurtaz in Health

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Scary stuff. I figure some of this might extend to fitness trackers and watches.

Calorie Per Dollar List – Eat For 21 Dollars A Week by Drewski in frugal

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Calories per dollar: the just-drink-vegetable-oil diet. I think the olive oil on that website is unrealistically expensive; real life canola or sunflower oil is way cheaper per calorie.

But I wouldn't find that very healthy. Your body can run on empty calories, but it will accumulate inflammation and lose antioxidants.

Thankfully, the site also points out to "Nutrient Per Dollar" - where it shows you where to get vitamins and minerals. Props for that!

You have no right not to deny vaccinations by jamesK_3rd in politics

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since you have a right to live, everyone else has an obligation not to kill you.

Suppose vaccines prevent you from killing anyone while living a normal life. In this case I agree with mr. Zionist lawyer.

Do you want to live a normal life? Go to the supermarket? Cinema? Park?

The real problem is when vaccines misfire. Vaccines can kill.

What should an acceptable failure rate be? 10 lives saved to one killed?

Another problem is how much the vaccines cost. How much should a state pay the vaccine company for saving a life?

You have no right not to deny vaccinations by jamesK_3rd in politics

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, if you self-isolate as a hermit, you would not infect anyone, so you have a legal argument against them.

Some tips and tricks for browsing saidit by magnora7 in SaidIt

[–]danuker 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Please mention the "Friends" feature and the "Friends" sub, it allows for content filtering through whitelisting, and not blacklisting (like moderation).

This is useful when you feel like reading less but higher quality content.

Pyramid of debate is ridiculous by Alpine in AskSaidIt

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, you'd like it to just disappear, eh? You and your garbagepeddlers can suck it!

I use the "Friends" feature, and when I don't feel like reading crap, I read top-of-the-pyramid content my Friends post.

"Toxic workplace" by comments in whatever

[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel you.

Here's a clue: the pyramid of debate is not very enforced. It's very few mods against a sea of content.

I have thought of quitting Saidit and all other "mass" chat tools because of people who spread misinformation with the sole purpose of destroying your time - say, being hard to debunk, but of no consequence or applicability to the real world.

A saidittor pointed out these might be covert ops trying hard to undermine inconvenient organizations.

Still, there is the Friends tool. If you find a respectful or enjoyable person, friend them. If you find they waste your time or that their behavior changed (account sold, bait & switch, etc), unfriend them.

Then, instead of browsing the main site, browse the Friends edition.

I can get my kicks like this, and I still lurk for this reason. Hope you find it useful.

Also, magnora7 says you should report people who disrespect the pyramid - they definitely help. But I have seen not much consequence, when I reported lots of posts one day. So, that is why I use the "Friends" whitelist instead of the reporting blacklist.

10,000 gallons of jet fuel next to the WTC. Share this antibody to neutralize pathogens such as misinformation. CC attribution by useless_aether in 911truth

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A gallon of roughly jet fuel (gasoline) (1) can drive roughly a ton of metal (your car) roughly 30 miles (2).

2 WTCs weighed roughly 1M tons (3). So, the equivalent energy of one gallon would move them at most a millionth of a car's MPG, or 30 / 1M = 3*10-5 miles, or about 2 inches.

But of course, a "jet crashing into a building" is not a very efficient automobile. So, lots of that energy ends up as heat instead of just motion - which is why you need 10k gallons instead of just one. Heat which might, say, melt steel beams.

TL;DR: Inconclusive. I won't waste any more time on this.

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density#Tables_of_energy_content
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_automobiles#/media/File:Fuel_economy_vs_speed_1997.png
  3. http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091201weightdispute

Trudeau government REFUSES to release carbon tax data, says it's 'secret' by Vigte in canada

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let's see how long people will march on their empty stomachs when farmers give up/go bankrupt.

Unemployment has a higher mortality rate than Coronavirus and may be the bigger killer of the two by oaf in conspiracy

[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, my argument is very simple, and falls short on accuracy. But it should give you an idea of the relative scale compared to the typical death rate.

Nine States Refuse to Issue Stay-At-Home Orders, South Dakota's Governor Says They're 'Draconian Measures' Like the 'Chinese Government Has Done' by RickC-137 in politics

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let me recap.

Italy

I got the 54% higher risk of death due to COVID, compared to regular death by dividing COVID deaths in a day by typical daily deaths.

Question 1 for you. Do you not agree that the risk of death in Italy was 54% higher in that 24-hour period?

World Yesterday

I updated to the newest complete data. Deaths due to COVID yesterday: 5229 as per here Deaths in general yesterday: 55.95 million as per here divided by 365.25 = 153182.

5229/153182 = 3.4%

Question 2 for you. Is this not the same computation as above, but for the world instead of Italy?

Question 3. Was this what you wanted to know?

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I admire liberty and the US constitution. That is in spite of the fact that I am not a US citizen.

But I have a few questions for you: Do you think the quarantine is unwarranted? If so, why?

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

government is verifiably abusive, exploitative, and deceitful.

I agree in general. But I don't see what we are being scammed out of, by staying at home in this circumstance.

  • A future? Government depends on our future, through work and taxes.
  • Confidence in government, because it pointlessly keeps us home while even doubling hospitals is not enough? Government depends on confidence.
  • Money, because they get an excuse to print more money and devalue ours? They don't need an excuse, they just print it.

they are mislableing pneumonia deaths as corona to pad the stats. by swordofdamocles42 in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://saidit.net/s/Coronavirus/comments/3pzw/rona_updates_experts_disagree_diving_into_the/

This video's description has actual links to actual experts that are disagreeing. Props for that. For this reason, I will review some.

Links 1-4 are about 2008's overwhelmed hospitals, which I do not dispute.

Link 5:

Hendrik Streeck: No proof coronavirus can be spread while shopping, says leading German virologist

He said he was not calling for the end to social distancing but there remained unknowns about the virus that may throw current guidance into doubt.

So much for disagreeing.

Link 6:

This one has a collection of experts and a huge tracking token which I stripped off.

Dr Sucharit Bhakdi: "We are afraid that 1 million infections with the new virus will lead to 30 deaths per day over the next 100 days. But we do not realise that 20, 30, 40 or 100 patients positive for normal coronaviruses are already dying every day."

Germany's deaths have surpassed 100 per day since March 31st.

Dr Wolfgang Wodarg - <<We should be asking questions like “How did you find out this virus was dangerous?”, “How was it before?”, “Didn’t we have the same thing last year?”, “Is it even something new?”>>

On his website, his explanation for Italy (English translation) is based on mortality rate with old data. He prefers herd immunity, which the UK is also implementing, and the cases overwhelmed the hospitals.

Jackpot

This actually made me think. How long will it take indeed? How fast can the medical system grow? What will the treatment capacity be? These are all questions unanswered by the authorities.

Then I found this Guardian article.

Its mortality rate is higher, there is little evidence that it is seasonal, and it poses a far greater threat to the NHS. Without a programme of community surveillance and contact tracing, the virus will continue to spread. Britain will be subject to routine flare-ups and repeated lockdowns.

The government and its advisers are now committed to their strategy of delaying the spread of coronavirus, which they hope will eventually lead to herd immunity.

Seems they gave up, and are merely using the lockdown as a last-ditch effort. They lost the fight with the virus. It will get to everyone; the only difference is slightly more people will get treatment. Slightly, because they can't keep the lockdown forever.

You as my pen pal

I thank you for persisting. Albeit you have not had been very tactful in this debate and did not address my concerns directly, I have been able to find what I was looking for in links of your links.

While I appreciate your critical view of government, I have only witnessed outright malevolence in very few places.

I stand with my belief that, at least in the topic of handling the outbreak, the government is merely inept and/or stupid as per your comment.

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ad hominems. Lovely! How you cleverly dodge my point.

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, your choice would be to not be "cowardly" and quarantine. Face the disease! Fight it bare-armed.

What is your argument here? Quarantining for a disease does not betray people who died for political freedom.

Nine States Refuse to Issue Stay-At-Home Orders, South Dakota's Governor Says They're 'Draconian Measures' Like the 'Chinese Government Has Done' by RickC-137 in politics

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why don't you show me what you mean? Put up some numbers yourself?

You are being dishonest by going around in circles.

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you're saying they needed an excuse to print money. They can print money for themselves without locking us in our houses (just hospital investments, as an excuse).

Do you mean "EARN IT" act? How is everyone staying at home and looking online, with lots of free time to spare solve anything? If anything, it'd increase the reach of the White House petition. Sign the petition.

British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories by AliceofX in Europe

[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First of all, you edited your comment and added a CHANNEL, NOT A VIDEO, while I was replying. That is dishonest.

Second of all, you have not addressed any of my comments in the comment.

COVID-19 is A Carefully Choreographed PLANDEMIC And The Government Is The REAL VIRUS!!! (15:57) ~ Press For Truth by JasonCarswell in Coronavirus

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

bailout scam, illegal surveillance

You are correct here. I retract my claim about the state doing its duty in general. But in these cases, I can find motives for the state: they gain money or power over you. What do they gain from me sitting at home?

I start from skepticism regarding all government and corporate media

Ideally, I would have a parallel system of my own, through which I could check anything. Absent that, I have to rely on other people.

The government's story lines up better with the reality I percieve. Sure, there have been discrepancies (i.e. masks are not useful, then gov buys enough, then masks are useful again), but there is nowhere near as much bullshit as alternative media, whose interest is to make money off sensationalism, and do not stand up to even the weakest of inquiries.

British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories by AliceofX in Europe

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

not bought and paid for by the corporatocracy

How about all private universities? They are paid for by the students.

British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories by AliceofX in Europe

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No,

There you go.

a few hundred scientists have gone on record

Point me to a few.

60 GigaHertz band is particularly dangerous because it prevents the uptake of oxygen into red blood cells

had precisly that problem.

More unsubstantiated claims. Provide evidence or cease spreading bullshit.

No, it's not up to me to prove anything.

zero studies had been done on 5G

Yes it is. My belief is that non-ionizing radiation at telecommunication levels is not harmful. Same as the status quo's.

they are mislableing pneumonia deaths as corona to pad the stats. by swordofdamocles42 in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kim does have an agenda - getting sponsored on Patreon by spewing sensationalist crap. All I see is videos of her claiming stuff in front of the camera, with nothing to back it up.

This is garbage. I can't look through hours of bullshit video.

Take this one. Garbage.

  1. No actual study is mentioned, only in the title - bait and switch.
  2. Only her talking head, and a map of temperature.
  3. No links or references.

Bullshit!

More Studies Show Warm, Humid Weather Could Slow The Spread (11:41) ~ Kim Iversen by JasonCarswell in Coronavirus

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Garbage. No actual study is mentioned. Only a map of temperature. No links or references. Bullshit!

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh really? And how exactly would this agenda unfold with everyone staying at home? What is the point? What can they possibly gain? You have still not replied to my comment here.

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The US has been doing that until March 15th. Notice the exponential increase until then - seen as straight lines in the next-to-last chart here.

British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories by AliceofX in Europe

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sub is full of crap. Point me to a study from any university in the world - not just the US.

COVID-19 is A Carefully Choreographed PLANDEMIC And The Government Is The REAL VIRUS!!! (15:57) ~ Press For Truth by JasonCarswell in Coronavirus

[–]danuker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

To clarify my angle: Big Brother is the state.

The state's duty is, in theory, to ensure rights of citizens.

Among other rights, people vulnerable to COVID have the right to live. But people less vulnerable will spread the virus.

I personally believe the state response is proportional to the danger.

Do you have arguments showing otherwise?

British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories by AliceofX in Europe

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The results are still not showing me any arson before 1st of April. Why wouldn't DDG be just as censored? It's still based in the US.

they are mislableing pneumonia deaths as corona to pad the stats. by swordofdamocles42 in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I have an extended family member who is a doctor. Her personal advice is the same as the authorities'. Have you verified anything to back up your claim of "load of shit"?

British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories by AliceofX in Europe

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's up to prove that 5G signals do any harm. As far as the government knows, the only thing they do to a human body is warm it up slightly.

Do you have any proof or data showing otherwise?

Fauci and Birx BOTH Have Big-Money Bill Gates Conflicts of Interest by useless_aether in politics

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First video

Video saying WHO Director general should be tried for crimes against humanity

Second video

A 45-minute video I'm not going to watch. Please summarize or give me exact timestamps that are relevant.

British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories by AliceofX in Europe

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you set fire to something, you're causing at least financial harm to its owner.

Nine States Refuse to Issue Stay-At-Home Orders, South Dakota's Governor Says They're 'Draconian Measures' Like the 'Chinese Government Has Done' by RickC-137 in politics

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

based off of one country

Italy took no measures, but had among the best public health networks of any country (their life expectancy is very high). It is not arbitrary, because it shows what happens when you have no quarantine, though you have good hospitals.

What's to prevent what happened in Italy from happening elsewhere?


You keep saying "my estimate" or "I assume"

I am showing you how I come to my conclusions. You are not, you are just grasping at straws in a block of text of mile-long sentences. Please delimit your ideas with a double-newline at least.


Idk you tell me.

I am saying the risk of death of COVID divided by the risk of death by other causes is the same as the mortality of COVID divided by the mortality of other causes.

You were accusing me of "Trying to change the window to be about mortality rate". That is why I ask you, what did I "change" here - because I did not change anything.


What is the "risk of dying" percentage when taking in to account other countries, not just italy?

I said it already, here, about the world data:

So, right now, about (100 * A. / B. ) 3.5% of deaths are COVID deaths.

While 3.5% is not a lot, it's more than many other diseases, and it grew exponentially.

le marxist revolutions have arrived by Kode in funny

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, I see. Well, the capitalist and communist armies look so different that I didn't make the connection. You should have used a similar picture, but instead of handing a bread to the kid, the commie could have handed a grenade, for instance. Or you could have used a FreedomTank(TM) for the capitalist army also.

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How about we just quarantine those that are at risk?

I think that is a good idea and wonder why it's not more talked about. But some countries have extra strict quarantine for older people. I.e. in Romania where I'm from, they're only allowed to go out between 11 and 13 o'clock.

A problem is, many old people are being cared for at home by working adults. I suppose you would advise quarantining them too?

just to protect some old and sick people

Because they have the right to live, same as you and I! They worked their lives to build what we have now.

Unemployment has a higher mortality rate than Coronavirus and may be the bigger killer of the two by oaf in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

plus the risk of mortality from COVID times the risk of contracting

We don't know either of those values. We can only estimate them. But we DO HAVE an ACTUAL DEATH RATE, the 919 people per day (peak in Italy).

Unemployment is a vastly greater threat to the general population than COVID-19.

As if not instituting a quarantine will make the tourists come back if your country is teeming with the virus.

wall of Police arrive to stop Child's Birthday Party During Lockdown by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Show me the data

Have you been living under a rock? Look at this video at 6:54 for a comparison of peak death rates from flu, swine flu, and the current daily death rate of COVID. It is more than double.

The burden is on the government

The government provided data. You didn't. Where is your data?

Edit: Compare China and South Korea who took early measures, with countries that didn't. There you have your risks and mitigations.

British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories by AliceofX in Europe

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A cursory look through Google, searching for 5g tower fire and having the date before Apr.1 2020 yields no results on the front page, nor the second. Only fires that started from the bad electrical work. Please provide a reference.

I would recommend everyone watch UK Column's take on COVID-19. The WHO actually has accurate statistics on this virus that everyone should download. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

not all of Italy

So, my estimate for dying of other causes would be higher (closer to yours). Yet it's still 100 times smaller.

China

China has had about 3300 deaths. That may be because they acted quickly and implemented strict quarantine, or may be because they're lying. But going against a government implies a serious burden of proof, which you do not offer.

I would recommend everyone watch UK Column's take on COVID-19. The WHO actually has accurate statistics on this virus that everyone should download. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

reported as deaths with the virus not because of the virus

Oh. So the virus knocking out your immune system, and then getting you killed by your usually-manageable opportunistic infections shouldn't count? Or that it kills you 10 years early, with your diabetes that would be survivable otherwise?

in the uk they no longer allow medical examinations of the dead

Where did you find that out? the UK gov has guidelines of what PPE to wear during autopsy.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Violence:

behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.


I deny that I have incited anyone to violence

but you said earlier:

burn, baby, burn


5G is violence

How exactly? Going against the government implies you have to provide evidence.

I would recommend everyone watch UK Column's take on COVID-19. The WHO actually has accurate statistics on this virus that everyone should download. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Infection rate is difficult to estimate. I do not trust the studies. I use death rate because deaths are comparable between countries.

I would recommend everyone watch UK Column's take on COVID-19. The WHO actually has accurate statistics on this virus that everyone should download. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

around halfway

You are being lazy. As I said before, I will not watch an hour long video to debunk what I already debunked.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did not say the death rate does not vary by age. It does. But that is irrelevant, because government has to consider all people. So I consider the total risk of death.

My estimate isn't exact, I assume roughly the same death rate in US as in Italy. The difference is just 4 years in life expectancy. But people in the die sooner because they're sicker.

silly

No, you're silly. You keep going round in circles insulting me, and I have explained my reasoning.

Explain to me how is mortality rate different from risk of dying?

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't get the joke in any case. Care to explain?

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

What if there's an invisible teapot floating on the orbit of mars?

The burden is on you to prove the government is wrong.

I would recommend everyone watch UK Column's take on COVID-19. The WHO actually has accurate statistics on this virus that everyone should download. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, just live your life as if nothing is happening, and get arrested, ay?

I would recommend everyone watch UK Column's take on COVID-19. The WHO actually has accurate statistics on this virus that everyone should download. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, I just realized. Also, I did not cherrypick, because you mentioned "endemic area". Is Italy not an endemic area?

I would recommend everyone watch UK Column's take on COVID-19. The WHO actually has accurate statistics on this virus that everyone should download. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Here I just looked at world data.

Edit: With world data, you get a 133863/4737 ~= 28 times more likely to die of "regular" death than COVID, instead of the 218x your post claims.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you actually believe what the state tells you to think?

Their story is consistent. Yours is a baseless claim.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fine, let's look at world data.

A. Deaths today: 133,863

B. COVID-19 deaths today: 4,737

So, right now, about (100 * A. / B. ) 3.5% of deaths are COVID deaths.

But the problem is, COVID deaths were growing exponentially for quite a while. On the 5th of April, total deaths increased by 7% over the previous day. (see "Change in Total (%)" on the page).

If it keeps going up exponentially by 7% daily, there's no reason why everyone would not end up like Italy.

Here's a video comparing it with past epidemics. Check out the daily death rates at 6:56 in the chart. On April 1st, 4895 people died worldwide of COVID, while swine flu's peak was 2050 per day.

I would recommend everyone watch UK Column's take on COVID-19. The WHO actually has accurate statistics on this virus that everyone should download. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

  1. Choose any country you want, so I don't cherry pick. Hell, even give me your data - typical deaths per day in that country, and deaths due to COVID-19.
  2. I'm not gonna watch an hour-long video just for you. Give me the data now and simply, as I gave it to you.

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You also have a right to life, not just assembly.

If you're the grandpa of one of the kids, and one of them is infected, you can get the disease and die.

Governments are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Enforce, people say you step on them. Let loose, people say you aren't doing enough.

What would you do? Quarantine? Quarantine just a bit? Or leave people alone, at the risk of letting lots of them die?

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  1. I can argue you are introducing chaos, by undermining Big Brother's plan.
  2. How exactly do they gain power? Do you call sabotaging your own economy winning? To what end keep everyone in their house?

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Incitement to violence disgusts me. How do you call this funny?

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How is it arbitrary? It's the official deaths confirmed by the Italian government. Do you have better data?

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The link, last edited Feb last year, says the following:

Brave will make a connection to (BAT token centralized endpoint) every time it is started up. It probably has something to do with their project of working with advertisers to provide more relevant targeted ads, which sounds pretty disgusting, but can be turned off ("Notify me about token promotions"). You can read more about it here[3].It will also make this request: (AWS endpoint) , which downloads the rulesets for HTTPS Everywhere.

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess soldiers are paid to die for their country if needed. But they shouldn't die foolishly, and their superiors shouldn't ignore their concerns.

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This isn't funny to me.

In Italy, the regular death rate is about 622 thousand people per year. This translates to about 1704 per day.

But authorities say coronavirus killed 919 people in a 24-hour period ending on 2020-03-27.

This means the extra risk of death on that day was about 54% higher.

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I suppose that's possible.

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[–]danuker 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Part 1. It's the best guess of the authorities.

Part 2. What does the military have to do with this?

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You provide none. I provide a state-backed article.

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[–]danuker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I recommend IceCat.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know the US military can execute false flag operations.

On a social network like this, it would involve sowing extremism to drive reasonable people away - into more familiar territories to the US agencies; on platforms like Facebook and Google.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am also suspicious of ZeroHedge's fitting of logistic regressions on exponentials.

But what's wrong with Bill Gates' data? Artificial comments like yours don't help.

Voat is riddled with this type of toxic behaviour and it’s just becoming more prevalent by oaf in MeanwhileOnVoat

[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, but they spill over into regular subs, and they create accounts in droves (perhaps autonatically), so it's pointless to ban them also.

I would fork Saidit to warn and auto-block people who consistently lower replies on the pyramid of debate.

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[–]danuker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Saidit is mum on this subject as well it should be. I will venture one: Oh that's just terrible.

What the hell are you talking?

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, sorry, I only responded to your first sentence. The school didn't give the LGBT book to kids, only had it in stock.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How come they weren't set on fire until the virus came about?

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What? Could you please speak more concretely?

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Your contradiction of every government is an extraordinary claim.

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While your incitement to violence does not have an imminent component, it still disgusts me.

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I use RedReader (Client for reddit.com) - https://f-droid.org/app/org.quantumbadger.redreader

Also, as a browser, I use IceCat, which does not spy on you either - https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/icecat.html

Though admittedly I don't use LibreJS (too extreme), but uBlock origin with 3rd party blocking - https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, there was an embedded tweet. I block third party requests. Sorry.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The flu does not increase the risk of dying by 54% for a 24h period.

Voat is riddled with this type of toxic behaviour and it’s just becoming more prevalent by oaf in MeanwhileOnVoat

[–]danuker 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Obscurity (for now), and the critical thinking of you and I. Edit: It won't stop them from getting the site, but at least from getting to our minds.

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China, Iran, and Russia offer contrarian viewpoints to western media/governments. NEXT

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The government has to balance the right to move about with the right to live. Would you just let people walk around if they were likely infected?

Voat is riddled with this type of toxic behaviour and it’s just becoming more prevalent by oaf in MeanwhileOnVoat

[–]danuker 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Could be paid people/bots trying to undermine the site. I suspect Facebook or Google's language model would be adequate for generating such content.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why is this under /s/environment?

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[–]danuker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The school library had it. That's different from forcing pupils to read it, or even recommending it to them. The kids had to ask for it.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am disappointed in Zero Hedge for not mentioning the exact time of the quote, in a 3-hour video.

The quoted part starts at 1:14:57 on the YouTube video.

Edit: I did not notice the embedded tweet. I block third party requests on web pages.

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[–]danuker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, it's a 3h long video. The quoted part starts at 1:14:57 on the YouTube video.

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[–]danuker 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Raises the risk of dying by 6%? During its peak 24h period in Italy, coronavirus increased the risk of dying by 54%

Calculation: 919 / 1700 = 0.54