We are being forced by our server company to remove a big sub from saidit

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[–]fred_red_beans 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Not sorry to see that sub go.

IMO, IP2 was contrary to the Pyramid of Debate as the main emphasis of IP2 was to degrade and demean others. Outside of the debate structure itself, what is the Pyramid of Debate for other than to help the individual to question and to learn? To help enlighten the individual, not beat them down. There's a difference between conveying information saying some people treat others like shit and saying you the fellow saiditor are shit. It's not an act in good faith. To me, acting in good faith is being able to accept another's point of view whether you agree or not. But if your point of view is fuck everybody, or fuck this group or that group, I don't think it's conducive to the enlightenment of others. It only lends itself to ill will. Now, I think it's fair to say I see this group as doing such and such and I disagree with it, but to say fuck that group just because is just prejudice and akin to Name Calling.

As I see it, if your main point is just to degrade or demean others, you really have no point at all.

[–]yellow_algebra_31 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it would help if the Pyramid of Debate rules were much clearer. It's a bit subjective and unevenly enforced right now. This creates a problem where neither users nor mods really know what the standards are, and enforcement is uneven and thus unfair. And where users don't have a clear idea of what's being censored and what's not.