Saidit is becoming an echo chamber by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, just look at this:

Adverse Reaction to Islamic Call to Prayer in Brooklyn - This lady has every right to condemn the racket, the Koran which is the basis of Islam says prayers should be "within yourself without being apparent in speech at both ends of the day," as well it says "hurl truth at falsehood" .. Jews did 911

"Jews did 911" wasn't even in the article! And the OP's comment is randomly interspersed with arbitrary claims that are barely related to the rest of the subject matter. It looks like SEO spam.

Two people marked the post as "insightful".

The OnA refugees could pose an issue to the principles of Saidit by SpeakEasy in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I sent the mods a PM letting them know that the Debate Pyramid was required for presence on /s/all / Saidit.

What's up with the FLOOD of OpieAndAnthony posts? by axb in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

There is, perhaps, a downside to accepting all the Reddit outcasts.We really need to enforce the Pyramid, or we'll be Voat in no time.

Is it normal for I don't watch TV? by Snow in AskSaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It's normal. Well, not normal, as few people don't, but it's not abnormal. Well, technically it is, but you know what I mean.

Saidit is becoming an echo chamber by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also on /s/MartinTimothy, and currently on the top of the front page with 12 insightfuls:

Oberlin College Ohio Dismisses Professor Joy Karega For AntiSemitic Statements - Re her assertion on social media platforms that "ISIS is really an arm of Israeli and US intelligence agencies, Israel was behind the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris and that Zionist Jews were behind the 911 attacks

… linking to an article in which the professor claims that those assertions were taken out of context, so shouldn't really be attributed to her. Below which the OP links three relevant other articles, along with a "quotation" from the OP written as such to give it false authority.

This behaviour is stunning.

It exploits the fact that most people don't click to read the comments before voting, whereas those who do assume that the OP's (top) comment is supported by all of those votes. Pretty shady behaviour.

Suggestion: Endorse http://infogalactic.com/ as the approved wiki of SaidIt by sawboss in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I don't support this. Why do we need an "approved wiki" anyway?

VOAT goats urged not to use Saidit: The leftist censorship shithole by VantaFount in MeanwhileOnVoat

[–]wizzwizz4 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

/u/magnora7 probably isn't the best person for the job, but I don't think either of the admins are doing a bad job. Horrible nasty comments are the exception here, not the norm, and yet somehow this has been accomplished without heavy-handed moderation.

Can the "funny" button function like a downvote? by StalwartJames in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, that's not how Saidit works. It's designed to be less toxic. If you dislike something, explain why in a comment – like I'm doing now.

The OnA refugees could pose an issue to the principles of Saidit by SpeakEasy in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Says the person coming over to a sub they clearly don't understand and violating our clearly-set-out cultural norms.

Raising the standard of saidit by dark_devil_dd in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I talk the talk, but I honestly don't research stuff either. I spend upwards of 10 minutes composing replies, sometimes, instead of noticing that the reason I'm taking so long to phrase my comment is because I'm suffering severe cognitive dissonance.

Sadly, though, the things people need to research the most are the things that are Obviously Right. I've not got a chance of deciding to research those things, and it'd take at least two months of work to turn myself into a person who would.

Literally Reddit 2.0.... Sigh... by prometheus in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with neither of those subs, and would ban them if I were running Saidit… but technically /u/magnora7 isn't being hypocritical. He's just working from a fundamentally different framework, which ranks things in a different order of "badness" to us (and we probably also disagree on how to rank certain things).

Reddit Takes First Step Against Adult Content by HorseMeat in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]wizzwizz4 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

At least Saidit is consistent. Reddit is not.

And define "better". What's the purpose of Saidit? What's the purpose of Reddit? *resists urge to weaponise LessWrong*

Kids Aren’t Born Trans — People who pursue a cross-sex identity aren’t born that way, and children should not be encouraged to “transition” to the opposite sex, according to a reference work endorsed by the American Psychological Association by useless_aether in Psychology

[–]wizzwizz4 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

that just makes zero sense from an evolutionary standpoint.

Neither does art. Neither does connecting thousands of computers together for the sole purpose of finding massive numbers with interesting properties. We don't call that a problem.

Yet even though on paper being trans or gay checks all the boxes of a mental disorder, calling it so is seen as a bad thing?

Well, yes. Because our classification system doesn't make sense, and doesn't extend like that. Creativity is a mental disorder. High-functioning autism is a mental disorder. Finding slapstick funny is a mental disorder. Liking cats is a mental disorder. Virtually everything is a mental disorder if you extend the categorisation like that.

Instead, consider: what do narcissism, self-loathing and lack of empathy have in common that homosexuality, trans…ness (what's the word‽) and creativity don't? The answer is that the former three inherently have negative effects on the person's life, but the latter three don't.

And, of course, all of these things have "treatments" (with various efficacies) to improve the lives of the "sufferers":

  • Narcissists can benefit from psychotherapy, or other treatments (I'm not really sure what the treatments are, and it's a really broad category!).
  • Depressives can benefit from CBT, and sometimes from medication, etc..
  • Psychopaths… TBD.
  • Homosexuals can benefit from a relationship, and acceptance.
  • Transgender people can benefit from HRT and SRS, and acceptance.
  • Creative people can benefit from painting equipment or a musical instrument.
  • High-functioning autists can benefit from a supportive environment and coping strategies.
  • Slapstick humour connoisseurs can benefit from a good Laurel and Hardy.
  • Cat lovers are untreatable, and should be condemned to the bottom rungs of society.

You see?

It doesn't define me and neither should your gender.

I completely agree. But for many people, their gender does define them. Certainly in our language it functions as a means of defining people; pronouns are customised to gender, etc.. That's why it's not just something people can just ignore. (I kind of wish they could, because then people wouldn't care so much about what other people choose to identify themselves with, but society is as society does.)

Kids Aren’t Born Trans — People who pursue a cross-sex identity aren’t born that way, and children should not be encouraged to “transition” to the opposite sex, according to a reference work endorsed by the American Psychological Association by useless_aether in Psychology

[–]wizzwizz4 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

like being raised by gay couples

Erm… This fits stereotype more than reality. Are you sure you're not cherry-picking studies to support your beliefs? You're also acting as though being trans is a mental illness.

Note that the (article referencing the) studies I linked don't suggest brain changes:

A 2010 study of 121 transgender people found that 38 per cent realised they had gender variance by age 5.

and

Although the sample was too small to identify any gender differences in development, Deoni expects to see differences developing in the brain “by 2 or 3 years of age”.

However, in support of your "external changes" hypothesis:

“Research has shown that white matter matures during the first 20 to 30 years of life,” he says. “People may experience early or late onset of transsexuality and we don’t know what causes this difference.”

Saidit.net — Apr 4, 2019 — New Feature: Front page can be set as 'subscribed' instead of 'home' by magnora7 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are we still using the Reddit license? If not, can we license the new stuff under AGPL? (That's a clever little license that's like GPL, but hosting a website using it counts as distributing the software and will require the improved code to be provided to the site's users. It means Reddit can't nick the stuff without open-sourcing the new version of the site (like Aaron intended), among other things.)

Also, can we set New as the front page instead?

This is what happens when you let children create as many accounts as they want from the same IP. Saidit needs moderation now or it is dead. by 34679 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

To play Devil's Advocate, they haven't completely flooded /s/all before, and they haven't had double or triple the vote counts of the next highest rated posts before.

But I also think it'll pass.

Anon remembers when everyone wasn't out for blood by [deleted] in Memetics

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there are tons of actual children on the internet,

And those who used to be able to get on it were few enough that they could be taught maturity without flooding the site, and usually bright enough that they made the decision to listen.

Now? Well, it's not just actual children who are acting immaturely, and there are sadly few social repercussions to it.

VOAT goats urged not to use Saidit: The leftist censorship shithole by VantaFount in MeanwhileOnVoat

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That isn't many people criticising it. Though… they're saying one of the Reddit admins is helping with the code, but I'm pretty sure they're looking at the historical pre-fork data.

Why is there 400 more subscribers in WPDTalk than in WPD? by TheProgrammingDog in WPDTalk

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because this sub is in /s/all, and WPD isn't.

I won't post here again.

Build Your Own by send_nasty_stuff in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We have our own Twitter (called Mastodon) and our own payment processor (I forget the name).

PSA: Our site culture is dropping. by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Before that, we need a stronger… less toxic, honestly, userbase. And we need to work together to decide our norms, with some help from our resident dictators /u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr.

New IQ map by useless_aether in maps

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, it doesn't seem like the IQ score is properly normalised; 100 should be the mean average, but it doesn't look like that's the case here. Data seems fake.

Edit: Or they could've normalised it based on a US IQ score. There are other issues with the data, though.

Post Your Streaming Platform Suggestions In This Thread! by Zombi in MovieNight

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We could use Saidit chat.

Kids Aren’t Born Trans — People who pursue a cross-sex identity aren’t born that way, and children should not be encouraged to “transition” to the opposite sex, according to a reference work endorsed by the American Psychological Association by useless_aether in Psychology

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

A perfectly ordinary expression of human identity. I guess you also think homosexuality is an illness? No matter. This is really just semantics, based on our inherent perceptions of the morality of various things.

Voat literally praises the mass murder, repeatedly calling him a hero. 90% of voat upvotes in agreement. by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnVoat

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was called /r/reddit.com, and it was deleted. You're right about the no vote; if you ignore the things you don't like, you don't feed the trolls. It's really quite clever.

CO2 is a coolant, not a greenhouse gas. by useless_aether in science

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

CO₂ re-radiates energy from high-energy massive (particular) radiation. It is also a greenhouse gas. The two are not mutually exclusive. (The article is misleading in describing CO₂ as a thermostat; it's technically correct, but doesn't apply to this situation.)

When CO₂ is hot, like all things, it radiates more black body radiation. However, it only gets hot when it absorbs things. (Reasonably accurate chart of absorption spectrum.) If you look at the absorption spectrum, you'll see that it mostly absorbs low-energy / high wavelength light – in the infra-red part of the spectrum. This is the band of wavelengths that make up most of what is given off by things that aren't hot enough to glow.

It also absorbs energy from large, non-light particles that rain down on it. (If I shine a bright torch at a clean pane of glass then it won't get too hot, but if I throw glowing pieces of metal at it then it will get very hot – even if I shine more energy at the pane of glass than is in the metal that I throw at it.)

What happened in the solar flare was that lots of high-energy massive radiation rained down on the upper atmosphere, which warmed it up as those particles collided with the air. This caused the CO₂ in the upper atmosphere to glow more brightly (though still not enough to glow in the visible spectrum). Since there wasn't much CO₂ above it to re-absorb the light, the net effect was to re-radiate almost all of the energy dumped into the atmosphere right back into space.

Now, you'll see that CO₂ doesn't much affect high-energy, short wavelength light, like light in the visible spectrum. That's why CO₂ is (almost) invisible; it doesn't absorb visible light or higher-energy light. However, it does absorb lower-energy light, heating it up and causing it to re-radiate that as low-energy light (since it isn't hot enough to glow).

High-energy light (visible, ultra-violet (to an extent; other stuff filters lots of that out), etc.) gets through the atmosphere and lands on the ground. The ground is not transparent to this light; otherwise we'd be able to see people on the other side of the world. (Or whatever's underneath the world; this model works equally well with a Flat Earth. *rolls eyes*) Near-white stuff like snow reflects most light (which is why it takes so long for snow to melt even when the sun is shining directly on it, even though you can melt it easily in your hand), whereas near-black stuff like tarmac absorbs most light (which is why the road is so hot on sunny days). You can test this using a Leslie cube, a torch and a thermometer, or by making your own experiment. Absorbing light makes things heat up, which makes them radiate – but unless they're very hot, they'll radiate low-energy radiation.

Low-energy radiation at the top of the atmosphere will cause CO₂ (and other greenhouse gases, but we're just dealing with CO₂ at the moment) towards the top of the atmosphere to heat up and (net) to radiate heat upwards – towards where there is less CO₂. Low-energy radiation at the bottom of the atmosphere will have the same effect; to radiate heat downwards, where there is less CO₂. The greenhouse gases in the atmosphere act sort of like a conditional mirror; they let through high-energy radiation and "reflect" (but not really reflect) low-energy radiation.

This is actually how a greenhouse works, too; if you get a low-infrared camera and put a cold piece of glass (from the freezer) in between it and something warm (like your hand) you won't be able to see your hand very well. (In principle this should also work with a warm piece of glass, but that piece of glass will be warm enough to be glowing too, so you wouldn't be stupid to blame the absence of a visible hand on the noise / interference.) However, shine higher-energy light (e.g. from a torch) through and you'll see it goes through fine. (Absorption spectrum of Kopp Glass' 3131 filter (HTTP))


I plan to put together a simplified simulation to check my model. It'll be slow, though, since it'll be modelling individual particles of air. It'll also have to have a higher concentration of "ideal greenhouse gas" since my computer wouldn't be able to manage to simulate (6.02214076 * (10 ^ 23)) / 24 = 2 509 225 316 670 000 000 000 molecules per litre (at sea-level / room temperature) of an entire column of atmosphere (stretching tens of thousands of metres) – even if I only simulated the 0.41% of that that's actually CO₂. (So don't say "but there's nowhere near as much CO₂ in the atmosphere as in your simulation, therefore your model is wrong"; unless you can explain why this is a valid refutation you'll have to poke a hole in the actual theory, and not my demonstration-aid inaccurate computer simulation.)

Programmers know whats up! by useless_aether in funny

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Haha! Amusing!

This is too true, unfortunately. Obligatory xkcd.

Saidit is becoming an echo chamber by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't mind this kind of thing so much, despite disagreeing strongly with it, because at least it makes claims that those who disagree can refute.

The OnA refugees could pose an issue to the principles of Saidit by SpeakEasy in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't think it was official, but it follows on almost as a logical consequence to the rules we have.

This is what happens when you let children create as many accounts as they want from the same IP. Saidit needs moderation now or it is dead. by 34679 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 12 fun5 insightful - 11 fun6 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

Please stop doing so. It's not what this site is about.

Sunday, May 26, 07:30 UTC: posts from only 5 users make up 71% of /s/all by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Only two of those are people I would've expected to be on that list. I think the issue is probably that /s/all is dominated by content that hardly anyone is interested in, which means that others leave. We haven't got 9.5k users. We've probably got less than 100.

The solution to this, however, remains the same as your conclusion. Post more, comment more and vote more.

Beware of anyone calling for REVOLUTION. This is precisely what many of the rulers desire. They create social unrest in order to get the people to rise up and beg for government tyranny w/o even realizing what they’re doing. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There’s already an entire religion for that. It’s called the society of friends.

Can't we just make another one? The more the merrier.

VOAT goats urged not to use Saidit: The leftist censorship shithole by VantaFount in MeanwhileOnVoat

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, yeah; /u/magnora7 is great! But think of how many people in the world there are, some who have more experience and would do a better job. That's getting harder, though, as time goes on and /u/magnora7 improves.

PSA: We all fell for an obvious lie. by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Imo tracking anti-Semitism across Europe […] is a waste […]

And that's what the discussion should've been on. But it wasn't, because it was misrepresented by the OP via a manipulated screenshot.

What should the limits be on sub moderators? by magnora7 in AskSaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When action is required, be dispassionate and fair.

I think that's what this is.

If War Is an Industry, How Can There Be Peace in a Capitalist World? by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't have a particular stance on this issue, but I just want to point out that it is possible for multiple things to be to blame. Few things have just one cause.

A new sub! /s/women -- any discussions, memes, etc about/for women welcome here! by Starlight_Fire in women

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The Pyramid of Debate has something to say about that.

Welcome to SaidIt. Please be apprised of the "Terms & Content policy". by sawboss in CringeAnarchy

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Pyramid of Debate WOOO! ←←
Clicky clicky clicky button: ^^^^^^

I'm trying to get banned from this faggotnigger site. by faggotnigger in Banned

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Did you run it by the ethics committee? If you don't even have an ethics committee, it's not a social experiment; it's merely a troll.

If I moved a bunch of my valuable shit out of my house a few days before it somehow accidentally burned down, law enforcement and my insurance company would be suspicious, I think. by Jesus in conspiracy

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They were maintaining Notre Dame at the time. Didn't you see all of the scaffolding around the building? There's a good excuse for this.

Though, if you don't take the excuse into consideration (or think it's insufficient by itself), here are some questions you might want to tackle.

Simple

These don't require much mathematical knowledge, but are likely to lead to false conclusions. If you want to tackle these, please provide the data you gathered; that'll make it easier for other people to answer other questions.

  • How often is an artefact in an old church usually restored?
  • How often is an artefact in a Notre Dame-category cathedral usually restored?
  • What's the probability per unit time (e.g. per month) that a given artefact will be restored during this time?
  • How does this probability per time change when the church / cathedral is being renovated / repaired?

Advanced

These questions are more likely to give a useful answer, however we're reaching the limit of my ability to ask good questions. (I'm not great at stats.)

  • Considering the distribution over different artefacts, how many standard deviations is this event from the norm?
    • Also considering the cathedral "class"?
    • Also considering the renovations?
  • Is the previous question even meaningful? i.e. is the distribution a normal distribution? If not:
    • What is the distribution?
    • Is there a correlation with popularity / legitimacy / importance / earned revenue?

Expert

Seeing as I'm not an expert, I can't provide any of these. Sorry.

PSA: Our site culture is dropping. by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you don't want people to complain in your sub, don't put it on /s/all. There's a box you can tick; if you want to police what people can say, take it off /s/all.

PSA: Our site culture is dropping. by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because it was a troll sub, and various site members petitioned for the ban – to which /u/magnora7 said "only if it starts up again".

(Though I might be wrong.)

Anonymous Message To The Captors Of Julian Assange by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Why are you going on about 400-year-old events and scapegoating Jesuits all the time?

Anonymous Message To The Captors Of Julian Assange by salvia_d in conspiracy

[–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Gunpowder Plot was a contentious event surrounded by mystery and intrigue, from which it's unclear who stood to profit and who profited, around which was spun a net of propaganda to condemn Catholics in the eyes of the English population.

414 years ago. It isn't relevant in the slightest.

You're sounding a bit too much like a Martin Timothy for comfort.

"Free speech" commenting extension Dissenter becomes spyware, banned from Firefox. by wizzwizz4 in Internet

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's basically a universal commenting system. These people set up a database that people can add to, and the extension shows all the comments related to the page in their database. In order to do this, it needs to send the web address of the page you're currently on to the people who run the extension. It used to do this only when you clicked to view comments.

The programmers recently made a change to add a "comment count" icon, which means that it "phones home" to ask for the comment count whenever you visit any page. This means that the extension tells them exactly where you're going on the web, and when, at all times – a drastic change that turns a useful tool into spyware.

They should've made this an "opt-in" feature. Instead, it's there by default, and turned on for everyone when they update. Mozilla, instead of letting the update go through, banned the extension.

I posted this in retaliation to this misrepresentation that says that Mozilla are trying to ban free speech.

"Free speech" commenting extension Dissenter becomes spyware, banned from Firefox. by wizzwizz4 in Internet

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The second one. It used to only "phone home" when required for the functionality of the extension, but they added a new feature that reports absolutely every website you visit to the developers.

If you click the link, you'll see the code that adds that anti-feature.

Mozilla didn't say, but I'm 80% positive that's why they banned it.

SaidIt is in the top 100,000 in the US! by Yhvr in SaidIt

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The thing is, Reddit's slowly pushing the worst onto us. Most of them have got bored and left, but some have stuck around. (Surprisingly, though, I'm not talking about the WPD people.)

Remember the Debate Pyramid.

With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda

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That's been going on for a while. There's a particular sock network that nobody's been banning because they don't want the "oh saidit is CENSORING MY FREE SPEECH!11" rhetoric everywhere.

But the admins are this close.

New study on "conspiracy theorists" says they are likely "criminals" (YEAHHHH, now we ramping things up, lets get this party started!!!!!!) by Vigte in conspiracy

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Post hoc ergo propter hoc. This is ridiculous. Here's the article.

This article is misleading.

People who buy into outrageous conspiracy theories — say, that no human has ever walked on the moon or the ancient pyramids were built by aliens — are more inclined to actively engage in anti-social behavior.

That's a more realistic claim – and applies to almost nobody here on Saidit (with a notable exception possibly being a certain sock-using user). It's OK, everybody; you're not going to prison!

From the actual study's authors:

People believing in conspiracy theories are more likely to be accepting of everyday crime, while exposure to theories increases a feeling of anomie, which in turn predicts increased future everyday crime intentions.

That's a much more believable claim – and completely different to the article's title.

Better to use YouTube or own website to host videos? by onemananswerfactory in SEO

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Two words: PeerTube.

Ok, that was one word. Two syllables. Maybe three. Let's call it two-and-a-half. (I'm not good at this.)

PeerTube is a system built on the same framework as Mastodon, GNU Social, Pixelfed, Pleroma…: the Fediverse. This is basically a way of making a sort of Web 2.1; you can make your own "social media" site (the main use so far) and connect them all up together so that you're not reliant on a single provider.

If you decide that the instance you're currently using is "going Facebook", you can move to a different one and still contact people on the one you were using before, eliminating vendor lock-in almost entirely. (That is, if people keep using different instance codebases so we don't get the Chrome effect.)

I could ramble on for hours, but… it's just a thought, but please consider it.

Firefox taking a hard line against noisy video, banning it from autoplaying by Orangutan in whatever

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Please stop autoquoting, /u/MartinTimothy. This is actually a good comment; I've no cause against it otherwise.

But quoting implies that somebody else is saying it, and your constant use of quotes when you're not quoting anybody is wrecking havok on my internal reading heuristics. It's really irritating.

Video: Rabbi Finkelstein says, "we steal 100,000 to 300,000 children a year drain their blood mix it with the Passover bread then throw the bodies into the slaughterhouses we own to grind them into sausage and hamburger .. us Jews we gotta do what we do!" - Bring war to Israel in retaliation for 911 by CockeyeBob in MartinTimothy

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It's interesting that all of your posts have exactly 4 votes. Four sockpuppets, and literally nobody else, I'd wager.

Stop using sockpuppets to artificially inflate the vote scores of poor content, and start posting content that's worth votes.

What's your favorite game without killing? by d3rr in Gaming

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FPSs are almost all rubbish.

I go with Minetest (like Minecraft, but better-balanced, faster and with a better modding API / educational support), Pokémon Showdown, good ol' EmPipe, Tetris… There are lots and lots of games that don't involve death.

"Truther Top 20 Jewish Self-Victimization Examples" on InfoGalactic - join to contribute by JasonCarswell in MartinTimothy

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Not so sure about #11:

60,000 Jews were absent from the WTC Towers on 911 after warnings were distributed via text messages, by the Odigo Hebrew language messaging service and from the pulpit of New York synagogues the Friday before, who watched the immolation of their co workers on live television .. that is a good enough reason to hate Jews.

The "source" for this is an old, 0-score Reddit post that cites a Google search as its source. Could we have a real source for this claim, or mark it as [citation needed] like the rest? Otherwise you're putting the credibility of the claim on the line.

Also, cut the last bit ("that is a good enough reason to hate Jews"). At least try to stay neutral, not literally inciting hate. If there's a conspiracy (I'm not saying there is without something remotely resembling decent evidence), I doubt all Jews or even more than 5% would be in on it.

Former members of other sites, why'd you leave by gloriousArstotzkan in AskSaidIt

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Anyone can host their own complete, stand-alone copy of Mastodon which can connect to others almost seamlessly; the only difference between them is the "local timeline", which is a list of all of the public posts posted on that server.

In the latest update they've made it easier to access the "Federated timeline" which is kind of a limited version of /s/all (it can't contain every post because there's no way of having a list of all servers; it just contains posts that have been referenced on that server).

Edit: I just noticed that the Federated timeline is actually working as you'd expect it to. Hooray for libre FOSS!

Saidit is becoming an echo chamber by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

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It's not fake news. The whole point is to prevent that sort of thing, without having to resort to authoriarianism and the pushing of narratives. If Saidit dies, we've lost something special.

50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blame At Fat by TheWebOfSlime in news

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What's news here is not that this has happened (it's well-known) but that there's an article about it, making it formally recognised.

It’s the Sixth Anniversary of the death of our friend, Aaron Swartz by salvia_d in conspiracy

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aaronsw, with varying capitalisation.

Generating facts (xkcd) by dark_devil_dd in Internet

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The technical term is citogenesis. Also note that, while greatly popularised by Wikipedia, the phenomenon didn't originate there.

The OnA refugees could pose an issue to the principles of Saidit by SpeakEasy in SaidIt

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Here's the exact message I sent:

If you want to be on /s/all, please consider informing your userbase of the Debate Pyramid. Note that that's not the same as being PC; as you know, the language used is completely incidental to whether you're being nice to people.

But the Debate Pyramid is pretty much the only site rule, and you're liable to get banned / pulled off /s/all if people don't pay attention to it and keep posting low-tier content. That's not a free speech violation; it's a measure to prevent Voat II: Electric Boogaloo. It's not a threat; it's a prediction. (As you can see, I'm not an admin.) Don't take it personally, please.

Beware of anyone calling for REVOLUTION. This is precisely what many of the rulers desire. They create social unrest in order to get the people to rise up and beg for government tyranny w/o even realizing what they’re doing. by Jesus in conspiracy

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Just make non-violence the central idea of your cult. People will band around it, and no matter how Right and Useful violence becomes people will reject it outright.

Even if violence actually becomes the right thing to do, people will still reject it in this case.

Petition: Drop Charges and extradition for Julian Assange and Wikileaks by PikonParadox in whatever

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Meh, our names are already all on lists for something or other. I don't think the US is corrupt enough to have resources dedicated to going through these lists and silencing people; worst that'll happen is that it'll come up on a background check and (iirc) they're not allowed to use that against you.

When did we forget our dreams?

It's good to remind people, though; it might matter to some: petitions are a public statement of strong support for something that you can't ever revoke. Be certain you agree with what you sign.

Tamil Nadu engineer invents eco-friendly engine that runs on distilled water, releases oxygen. "The engine will be introduced in Japan in the coming days." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Erm… I don't think this is possible. At the very least, the journalist knows nothing about it, and is misquoting the engineer. You can't use water as a fuel to release oxygen, because it costs energy to do that. You don't get energy out of it.

#HARRIS/2020: "Make America H_te (TRUMP) Again", DIGIT APP #FreeNoah ~ You Are Free TV - [ Cured by alt medicine, a boy with cancer was kidnapped by the state, parents charged, and will now be forced to endure 28 days of chemotherapy. FUCK THE STATE!!! ] by JasonCarswell in Radiation

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What.

Just talking about your title:

Cured by alt medicine,

Considering that every single "alternate medicine cancer cure" I've come across has been a scam, I'm extremely suspicious of this.

a boy with cancer was kidnapped by the state, parents charged, and will now be forced to endure 28 days of chemotherapy.

The only problem with this is that the parents were charged for the lifesaving treatment, but that's how things go in America. The fact that he was forced to undergo treatment that could save his life – well, the real problem is that his parents were withholding one of the only things that could stop his body from eating itself alive.


No, I haven't watched the video. I don't care to; it's almost certainly another one of these hour-long incoherent ones. The title's bad enough.

What we do when things go wrong - Mozilla [Deleting all telemetry since May 4th if you had enabled it to get the fix] by Mnemonic in Internet

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I trust Mozilla on this. All of the bad stuff they've done, they've admitted to. There've been no scandals where hidden Mozilla information has come out after the fact.

What we do when things go wrong - Mozilla [Deleting all telemetry since May 4th if you had enabled it to get the fix] by Mnemonic in Internet

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They will start collecting Studies data again sometime after 2019-05-13T16:00:00Z, if you've got Studies enabled. They're telling everyone who doesn't want it on to turn it off by then.

It took 4 days because it's a tricky issue. Certificates are hard enough to deal with at the best of times… but when everyone's panicking it's so much harder.

Don't Risk It. Don't Sign It. [holy anti-union propaganda, batman] by Mnemonic in LateStageCapitalism

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Unions are important, but bad unions can be just as bad as bad companies. I don't know about the details about this particular case.

Literally Reddit 2.0.... Sigh... by prometheus in SaidIt

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Ooh! It'd be interesting to see what you did; knowing that would help with the addition of other similarly "major" features.

This should be reposted every week everywhere it’s relevant by Orangutan in politics

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Excellent proof by assertion. Ten out of ten, would recommend.

Literally Reddit 2.0.... Sigh... by prometheus in SaidIt

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That and

Comments aren't always to disagree. ☺

This should be reposted every week everywhere it’s relevant by Orangutan in politics

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It wasn't all rich people! Bill Gates, for instance, wasn't named in the Panama papers.
(Not that this takes away from what you're saying.)

Anti-Semetic Posts by Work2Death in SaidIt

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There is no way, on that site, to produce such an image with a screenshot (and that's ignoring the red circles).

But, fine. Omit the word "doctored". The rest of the comment still stands; the image made it seem like criticising the patriotism of any person on the "Jewish" category was made illegal, etc..

The post was not antisemitic.

It used deception to falsely portray a blanket "Jews" in a negative light.

Anti-Semetic Posts by Work2Death in SaidIt

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Can you think of any ways around this?

I've thought of trying to teach people techniques to find out who's really to blame for things, but detective work is always harder than scapegoating.

Anti-Semetic Posts by Work2Death in SaidIt

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Mozilla Firefox: "All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert" by sawboss in technology

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They changed other things in the browser. Not every derivative has to be perfect. Although… Waterfox does claim "no telemetry".

I don't think this bug is due to phoning home, though. I think it's just bog-standard certificate expiration, that's only checked once every 24 hours.

PSA: We all fell for an obvious lie. by wizzwizz4 in SaidIt

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The comments did end up getting to the truth, did they not?

Yes, fortunately. But it took far too long! Perhaps you're right, though; that might be enough.

Suggestion: Endorse http://infogalactic.com/ as the approved wiki of SaidIt by sawboss in SaidIt

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That is how it's supposed to work.

But, at first at least, saidit.net would be the biggest instance around. If people couldn't spin up their own instance and connect it to Saidit, it would be as hard to get people on that instance as it was to get people on Saidit in the first place – if not more so, since there wouldn't really be an incentive to move somewhere where there's a smaller community. And that defeats the whole point of decentralisation, effectively locking everybody to saidit.net.

So every site needs to support federating to every other site by default. The short-name whitelist thing is cool, and a blacklist is equally important, but the "default" has to be no less than "full access to content and ability to post".

(cc: /u/JasonCarswell)

What should the limits be on sub moderators? by magnora7 in AskSaidIt

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I agree with this assessment. The first comment was low on the Pyramid of Debate, and the resulting argument fruitless. The second was high on the Pyramid of Debate, and the resulting argument slightly less fruitless.

I can't believe people speculate on whether or not Jews influence or even control American culture and government. LOL by Orangutan in politics

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You might complain about B, and I don't think I'd be able to convince you not to. I'm certainly not going to bother with D (either you don't need convincing or you wouldn't be convinced by anything I say), and I do think E is slightly badly worded.

However, A and C are definitely things I can get behind, and I'm pretty sure I can defend them even to this audience:

  • Even if there's a secret club that only recruits Jews and wants to take over the world, that doesn't mean that Dave's responsible just because he's also Jewish. I mean seriously.
  • Killing people is bad. Hurting people is bad. Even killing Hitler would be bad, if you could avoid it. (I can elaborate on "if you could avoid it" if need be.)

And honestly? The real failure is not that this law was passed. It's that this law was necessary.


I'm an idiot. I noticed that I was confused. What I should've done is this:

  • Ok, I'm confused.
  • There's no reason for the US government to do this like this. It doesn't align with their interests to produce a sloppily-worded law.
  • Therefore,
    • either their interests are different to what I thought they were…
    • or they didn't do this.
  • This evidence is pretty strong – a law being passed with wording as soft as (E)…
  • Wait. This is a screenshot. Maybe I should check the actual law…
  • Nope, this is taken out of context to make it seem like these are restrictions on US citizens, instead of simply some examples of anti-Semitism. The scroll bar's been deliberately cropped out, and doesn't it say "European" at the top of the page?
  • This person seems to be attempting to manipulate the opinions of the Saidit readers. I should tell them.

What I actually did was this:

  • Meh, I'm going to ignore my confusion and SHARE MAH OPINIONS ON TEH INTERWEBZ!
  • My opinions are obviously important.
  • What was that niggling doubt in the back of my head again? Oh, I'm sure it wasn't important.

I will learn from this. I shouldn't have needed /u/HopeThatHalps to point this out to me.

Saidit.net — May 3, 2019 — Updated site theme based on feedback, fixed NSFW interstitials, 8k usernames by magnora7 in SaidIt

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Thanks for fixing the NSFW thing; I'm less concerned about accidentally clicking on WPDTalk or something now.

Completely unrelated: I've noticed some people adding CSS to limit interactions to subscribers only – something that I don't think is extremely ethical nor useful. Is CSS that forces people to subscribe like that acceptable?

Welcome to /s/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns by OwU in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns

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Toxic stuff's already restricted by the Pyramid of Debate. Of course, a good troll could still work around that, but by that point they've had time to acknowledge the total lack of benefit to what they're saying.