Lesbians are heteronormative because they wont make the first move... on a man. by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 52 insightful - 16 fun52 insightful - 15 fun53 insightful - 16 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the number of times the word “lesbian” appeared in this post is telling in and of itself. Screamed of LARPing.

Also, he makes it very obvious that the reason he transitioned is to “escape” how awful dating is for men. How are they not incels again?

Sad watching so many lesbians and bi women rejecting womanhood by oofreesouloo in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 48 insightful - 1 fun48 insightful - 0 fun49 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, this shit is so depressing. I took a break from this forum and all the outrage for a while because it was making me too depressed, and then the whole “Elliot” Page thing happened and now I feel worse about the world than ever.

I worry so much for young girls right now. There’s no way I wouldn’t have started to question my “gender” if Page has done this when I idolized her in high school during her X-Men years.

The cis fag and the neuroqueer gigadyke by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 41 insightful - 8 fun41 insightful - 7 fun42 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

I thought we weren’t supposed to assume gender based on outward appearance? I can’t keep track of any of these new rules. Probably because they don’t make sense and all contradict each other.

mean "cisbians" rejecting transbian and wanting to date women. by turtleduck23 in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 36 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They’re really just incels, aren’t they?

"more and more I feel like I'm just being a fetishist" by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The pseudo-self-awareness and equivocating in this post is painfully female lmao. You can't identify out of socialization.

I thought the Giggle app was transwoman-inclusive? by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The founder did an about-face after realizing just how terrifying these men are. Proof positive that most people just need to be educated about what's really going on and that these people aren't just "trying to live their lives" like LGB.

I still won't download the app because the algorithm seems to do a poor job of stopping men from being on there, and said men have made it their mission to get through and doxx any actual women who dare look for other actual women to spend time with. Seems like a serious safety issue. They never let us have nice things.

"Her" favourite part of being a trans lesbian by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The failure to apprehend that lesbian and bi women actually avoid doing this because it’s so creepy is proof itself that this person is 100% male.

God, the complete and utter shame I still feel when inadvertently in these situations.... We’re women, we know what it’s like to be creeped on in intimate spaces. We wouldn’t do it to someone else, regardless of attraction.

'Research shows many trans folks' sexual attractions change after transition' So were they lying to themselves or everyone else? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 34 insightful - 5 fun34 insightful - 4 fun35 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Well, we know that the medical interventions these people put themselves through do all kinds of damage to their bodies, hormones, and sex drives, so I find it at least possible that there's something wacky going on, such as a trans woman losing his sex drive and then saying he's "attracted" to men now to seem more socially acceptable for whatever reason, or something similar. Yet another reason we should not be allowing this kind of self-mutilation. What are the implications for LGB people if sexuality can just be changed, not to mention the deleterious effects on the individuals concerned?

However, the article's "expert's" opinion on the matter is nothing short of ridiculous:

“Imagine you’re in a female body and you identify on the masculine spectrum. You don’t want to be sexual with men, because those men would treat you as a female-bodied person, and that kind of sexual interaction is not of interest to you. So even if you did have attractions for men, you might not engage with men or even indulge in fantasies about men until you can be witnessed as and interacted with in your affirmed gender.”

Please. I don't even know how to respond to something this nonsensical. So basically, this supposed scientist's answer is, "I didn't let myself be attracted to men because I understand that men hurt women, so I have to be a man in order to safely be attracted to men." These poor young women. Instead of teaching young men to treat them right, we're teaching the women and girls that they can just become men and not have to deal with misogyny anymore. Because not wanting to be treated like a sex object means they're actually men.

r/actualtransbians applauds woman for being misogynistic; bonus: "anyone anti-trans must be a rich, white, conservative woman" by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 32 insightful - 8 fun32 insightful - 7 fun33 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

My favorite one is when this person assumes that not being into BDSM means that all sex can consist of is handholding.... I’m concerned for society.

Its a freaking period app... by hyunnahh in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 32 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

When your toddler is already smarter than you. by jet199 in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]Constantine 29 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I think people underestimate how damaging this can actually be. Aside from (what should be) the obvious negative psychological effects of trying to get your child to believe in something that directly contradicts reality, I worry that these "theybies" are particular vulnerable to sexual abuse. Kind of like kids who are taught to call their genitals "cookie" or something like that, if these children don't have the correct biological vocabulary to communicate with trusted adults, how will they be able to communicate when they need help?

Penis-averse lesbian asks for advice on ask transgender by Mangomart in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 29 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This comment was by far one of the most disturbing things I've read. I couldn't keep going after that or I would've had to burn me eyes out.

Eddie Redmayne gets cancelled for saying the abuse towards J.K. Rowling is too far by HarlanRogers in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Remember how the actress who played Luna Lovegood gave a similar response a few weeks ago and ended up deleting her Twitter account because of the blowback? If this shit doesn't peak people, I don't know what will.

r/BiologicalLesbians Banned On Reddit. by votkriscan in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 26 insightful - 4 fun26 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I clicked on this thread expecting to get depressed about all this shit again, but this comment actually made me feel way better. Very well put, thank you.

One fell swoop: The rise and fall of TERF-loving transbian Eddie Izzard by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This was my takeaway. Like, okay, you think JK Rowling's essay made it more likely for trans kids to commit suicide (it did not, but for the sake of argument, whatever). Now that's mass murder? Like, literal mass murder by words? For real? You think that's how that works? I just... I have no words.

But no one ever says that!1! by bastetkat in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good god. How much you wanna bet that "comicbookdyke" has a dick? Appropriating a homophobic slur that doesn't belong to him while screaming about "tRaNsPhObIa." The lack of self-awareness is truly astounding.

The difference between two sites reporting the same story. by MilkTea in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay, this perfectly encapsulates all of my concerns about the trans movement in one image. There's the obvious (or at least what should be obvious) confirmation that this is just a fetish and a way to gain access to more vulnerable women and girls for dangerous men.

But then there's also the wider social concern I have about the LGB movement: wasn't one of the big arguments against LGB rights "what's next, pedophilia?" and we all shook our heads and said that was a slippery slope fallacy, those are totally different things, and no one could ever reasonably use the arguments for LGB rights to advocate for something like that.

And we were right: those arguments still don't work for this stuff. But people are using them anyway, fallaciously, and the second a right-wing outlet gets ahold of this, what will happen? They won't get the nuance about how the T has nothing to do with the rest of us in anything but name, and they'll start going on and on about how LGBT organizations are trying to ruin society. And this time, they won't be wrong. The T is dragging us down with them on their sinking ship.

Trans man complains on r/bigdickproblems by Scruffy_Nerf_Herder in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 22 insightful - 7 fun22 insightful - 6 fun23 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

“I feel like this sub doesn’t love me.”

Lmao the trans mentality in one succinct sentence.

Didn't knew that crossdressers and intersex males/females are trans now... by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 22 insightful - 6 fun22 insightful - 5 fun23 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

“Encompasses any individual who crosses over or challenges their society’s traditional gender roles or expressions.”

So... everyone? Ever? On Earth?

I’m just done. I give up now.

Hey, some sanity and it didn't get removed! (from r/actuallesbians) by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m very glad that this person saw sanity before getting in too deep. I wish this was true for more of them. It’s harder when every contrary opinion is removed from their orbit.

Just some casual homophobia on a subreddit with "lesbians" in its name. by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I want to tear my eyes out... If only I could say that this was just teenagers being stupid on the Internet, but I know people like this in real life.

Rand Paul questions Dr. Rachel Levine on puberty blockers for minors with gender dysphoria by cutenoobies in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I feel like I have whiplash. I don't know who I'm going to consistently vote for in the future; perhaps I'll just take each race on a case-by-case basis on my ballot.

r/reclassified - r/FEBfems banned for promoting hate, 45 mins ago by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There was a bait post late last night, too. I wish I'd archived it, but a TW went on there crying about how he's a "woman who struggles to know if she's lesbian or bisexual" and how dare the sub not include him. The highest voted comment when I last saw it was just "lmao" and the second-highest "fuck off" so I'm guessing the ban was directly related to this.

edit: based on the time, there's no way this is unrelated. This was the last thing ever posted on the sub and it was banned under an hour later, I believe.

edit 2: this just makes me so mad, I felt like that was the only place I could go on the internet to find other bisexual women who take same-sex relationships seriously.

Help! We're going extinct: A crying plea to save the tomboys | Shout Out UK by Beryl in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not completely extinct. I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.

I'm glad this article mentioned the transing of fictional characters like Jo March. If I'd seen Jo, or Mulan, or Scout Finch, or any of these characters being called trans when I was growing up, that would've been the nail in the coffin for me toward pumping myself full of dangerous hormones...

Irreversible damage excerpt by xandit in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I finished this book earlier this week. It’s truly horrifying. At one point the author interviews a girl who was one of over twenty trans “men” at her small school. The author asked her how many were lesbians. The girl said “none.” All the real lesbians are being transed, while bi girls are calling themselves lesbians instead.

Have anyone thought of saying that they are intersex instead of trans? : truscum 🤦🤦🤦 by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

JFC people in the comments are saying that “being trans is an intersex condition.” I really shouldn’t be surprised by how horrible these people can be anymore, but here we are.

Anyone else notice a highly irregular amount of anime in trans communities? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]Constantine 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I’ve already posted elsewhere in this thread, but this just makes me so angry. Such a disproportionate number of trans-identifying people are young and on the spectrum. They get swept up in all of this and people on the Internet radicalize them.

For those who may not know, one of the hallmarks of ASD is a serious body/mind disconnect, along with accompanying motor skills issues. Pair that with social isolation and a strong tendency toward restrictive interests, and it’s a recipe for disaster.

These people are “egging” socially isolated teenagers by telling them that there is a perfectly reasonable, and curable, explanation for all of their difficulties. Here, if you just do this, everything will be fine! People won’t reject you anymore and you won’t feel like you’re stumbling around dealing with sensory overload in your clumsy body anymore!

With the boys, it becomes a porn thing to do with their restricted interest in anime. For the girls, it’s that they’ve been told all their life that the reason they’re on the spectrum is that they have an “extreme male brain,” and they feel this will solve that.

But then of course, after they go through all these painful treatments, everything’s still the same. Why? Because they’re effing autistic, that’s why. There’s no easy way out, it’s just a fact of life medical condition. But by then, they’re brainwashed and there’s also a sunk cost fallacy going on where they’ve had all these procedures and changed their names and everything. So they get super defensive about it (because they know deep down by now that this wasn’t the magical cure they were sold) and become the most insufferable TRAs on the Internet.

It just makes me so pissed off. I’m lucky I didn’t fall victim to this as a younger woman on the spectrum. Thank you for providing all these links, they’re very informative.

Oh most of us know alright by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The comments are unreal.

Who Crushed the Lesbian Bars? A New Minefield of Identity Politics - good article on the disappearance of lesbian bars by ns_for_work in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lesbian bars are "trans woman exterminationalism." How the fuck did we get here? (Rhetorical question, I know damn well how - homophobia/misogyny and neoliberalism run amok).

AL: Question: What is the correct label for a female only attracted to other females regardless of gender? Answer: Bisexuality. by winterwillow in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This makes me sad. I know a few people who call themselves bi, pan, "queer", or asexual who are clearly just lesbians who have been convinced that's the TERF sexuality, or if they like transmen they're bi, or if they don't want to sleep with transwomen they must be asexual. They're just being thrown right back in the closet by the woke bros.

Conversely, it's taken a lot for me to accept myself as bi because I don't want to be associated with the people who go on and on about "ethical non-monogamy" and "sexuality is fluid" and "hearts not parts." I've at different points tried to convince myself I'm not really attracted to either men or women just to get out of being bi. Ugh, I sometimes wish I was born way earlier.

What words/phrases are you sick of hearing, and/or can't take seriously anymore? by OPPRESSED_REPTILIAN in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Well, basically we were talking about the nightmare at Evergreen college (which someone posted here about a couple of weeks ago, I believe), and this person got very upset when I disagreed with the students in that scenario and then this person started going off about how I was infringing on her “right” to feel safe, at which point I just started laughing my ass off at the very notion that there was such a thing.

What words/phrases are you sick of hearing, and/or can't take seriously anymore? by OPPRESSED_REPTILIAN in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

“Valid,” “problematic,” and “safe” are all perfectly good words that make me want to gag whenever I hear them now. Or laugh. I laughed out loud when someone was talking about “not feeling safe” in class anymore. That went over well.

Straight guys these days by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

He admits to fucking his college roommate, so yeah... not straight. Just wants us all to think he is.

"It's not about the dick, it's about what's attached to the dick" by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I swear, all those anti-bullying campaigns when we were kids really backfired. "It's what's on the inside that counts." That's not what we were supposed to get out of that. Everyone's so fragile now, I swear to God...

Repeat after me: sexuality has nothing to do with sex by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I love how they assume that we don’t know trans people all the time, and that’s why we’re critical of their ideology. No, it’s exactly because I’ve had the misfortune of knowing so many trans people that I came around to questioning the TRA orthodoxy in the first place. People who don’t know trans IRL are more likely to support them because they think they’re just trying to live their lives like LGB people. They’re not.

Sexuality is a personality trait, according to commenters on r/lgbt (but not upvotes?) by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

This is a real gem (from a “transbian” with multiple flairs to that effect, of course):

“I usually feel bad about myself seeing things like this because being queer is a big part of my personality.”

Why yes, “Tiffany,” you should feel bad about appropriating a gay slur as a straight man and trying to coerce lesbians to sleep with you. That would be called “self-awareness,” but given that you posted this, I doubt you have any. You’re just fishing for “validation” again.

Edit: word

Who are the transgender-identified "colonizers" of LGB subreddits? - A breakdown by subreddit overlap by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is interesting and mostly just confirms my suspicions. Thanks for sharing. I didn’t know what the tulpa thing was and kind of wish I still didn’t.

As someone officially diagnosed with ASD, I did want to touch on some of the comments that are popping up here/add some more perspective:

1) I think that u/lovelyspearmint is correct that there’s likely a fair amount of erroneous self-diagnosis going on in the Reddit ASD community. This is something that really frustrates me, but at the same time I kind of have to understand because so many women in particular find it difficult to get an official diagnosis/be taken seriously by the medical community. At the same time, there are a lot of Zoomers who just want to be “special” for whatever reason, and saying they’re trans and/or have ASD both serve that purpose.

2) That said, I think that the evidence indicates that there’s definitely something going on. I forget which study, but it was done in the UK and showed that trans-identifying individuals are more likely to have diagnosed ASD at a frankly alarming rate. Add in the fact that scores of young women on the spectrum likely aren’t actually diagnosed, and the real number is no doubt higher.

3) Now on to potential reasons for this: I think that u/RedEyedWarrior has it partially correct that people on the spectrum tend to be more “gullible,” but the question remains as to why, especially when a fair portion of people with ASD are actually very critical of this ideology like myself. I’m involved with the Reddit ASD community, and whenever this topic comes up, it gets super heated with half the people saying derogatory things about trans people and the other half calling those people Nazis. It’s a real clusterf*ck.

I think this divide is a clash between a few different symptoms of ASD: our propensity for being skeptical of the common view/not caving to social pressure, and our serious mind/body disconnect that tends to make us clumsy/cause sensory issues/issues with sex and sexuality. This plays into the DID/multiple personalities stuff. Those diagnoses amount to psychological bunk, but they do, like transgender ideology, serve to explain away these difficulties in a more straightforward and accessible way than an ASD diagnosis. With ASD, we’re just kind of stuck with these problems. Sure, we can work on them, but that’s really hard work, and we’re never going to be “normal.” These other “conditions” offer a framework for understanding ourselves that puts the onus on others, and on medical interventions, not on ourselves, and may offer some (false) hope for normalcy.

So, our propensity for skepticism ends up clashing with our overwhelming desire to fit in somewhere. Which one wins out depends on the person and their mental state, I suppose. I myself experienced severe gender dysphoria for some time growing up, but realized that was related to ASD, no inherent gender identity (because there is no such thing). If someone had offered me hormones to fix it at thirteen, I would’ve taken them in a second. I’m glad I made it to adulthood/a better place mentally before the world went nuts.

I’m not sure what I hoped to accomplish with this wall of text, but I hope someone finds it interesting. I’m happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.

Besides random shit people are saying on the internet, what has happened or been said to you IRL that makes you want to drop the T? by fuckupaddams in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So many possibilities....

  1. Just hearing all of this about being a man trapped in a woman’s body or vice versa didn’t make any sense to me and seemed contradictory with feminism. That was the first step.

  2. The Hypatia controversy (look it up, it was basically a situation in academia about the trans-racial issue) blew up in my major field and it was nuts. This was the big thing for me that made me GC.

  3. Seeing flyers that there were only five gender neutral bathrooms in the liberal arts buildings on my campus, and this amounted to violence. I counted up and I don’t think there were even five women’s bathrooms in these buildings.

  4. My friend getting trounced in a student senate election by a clearly inferior idiot because she wasn’t as big on the aforementioned bathroom issue. Apparently this was the most important thing ever on campus.

  5. A professor had a crazy experience with Rachel McKinnon. That person is nuts.

  6. One of my close male friends becoming a “lesbian.” Though I was already GC by this point, I never would’ve dreamed a male would actually call himself a lesbian.

  7. Another male friend, who is gay, identifying as trans and screaming at a poor old immigrant woman who didn’t speak more than three words of English about bathrooms. I still don’t know why he did this, she wasn’t saying anything about trans people or bathrooms. It was so strange.

  8. Going to a conference and seeing a presentation that was so flagrantly anti-science and anti-feminist (it was about the female brains in men’s bodies again) that I couldn’t even believe what I was hearing.

  9. Lots of other experiences that weren’t trans-related but seriously made me question third wave feminism as a whole, which made it easier to question the trans issue.

Bret Weinstein (formerly a professor at Evergreen College, an early proponent of Queer Theory) expresses dissent against Joe Biden's homophobic executive order by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Whenever people tell me that the left isn't out of hand, I point them to the Evergreen fiasco. This man had bomb threats sent to his family because he had the gall to say he thought there were better ways to talk about racism than forcing all white people to leave campus for the day? It just doesn't make any sense. And the man's a liberal democrat, or at least was before all this.

Of course, they still equivocate even about this, which shows just how far gone they are. Extremists on both sides are just denying facts left and right (no pun intended, lmao). Nuance, people, that's where truth lives. Not in ideological purity.

P.S. How does it not surprise me that a transbian was one of the orchestrators of this madness?

But no one ever says that!1! by bastetkat in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 13 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Dare I ask what a "non-binary transwoman" could possibly be?

The things my acquaintances send to each other on twitter made me realize how little I mean in their eyes... by lazy-summer-god in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not that it matters since this would be egregious anyway, but there are evolutionary reasons for homosexuality. My family raised animals growing up and every time there was a gender imbalance in the population, the next babies would turn out gay.

There is no such thing as a trans farm animal.

But no one ever says that!1! by bastetkat in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So entitled and delusional, got it.

More using intersex as an excuse: "Many transgender people have penises or vulvas that look exactly like genitals you are attracted to" by Constantine in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For context: On the ridiculous slide about "genital preferences," the author goes on about how "you also can't assume the genitals of a transgender person. an intersex transgender woman may have a natal vagina already! and an intersex trans man may have a natal penis!"

Like the random existence of a small group of intersex people negates the reality of the rest of the TQ+ nightmare people, and justifies your rapey homophobia.

What words/phrases are you sick of hearing, and/or can't take seriously anymore? by OPPRESSED_REPTILIAN in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the thing with these people, every little discomfort is a form of "violence." It's not about physical safety, it's about emotional safety. What they fail to understand is that at the most basic level, the only person who is 1) responsible for, and 2) even capable of deeply impacting your emotional health is yourself. But that's too much work, so it has to be everyone else's problem instead.

obese man with sissy fetish realized he is actually a beautiful trans woman after surfing r/eggirl by Coconaut in GenderCritical

[–]Constantine 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Where feminism goes to die

What even is non-binary? by Constantine in GenderCritical

[–]Constantine[S] 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

I made my mom run over my barbie doll with her SUV. What does this say about my gender?

Remember kids, bisexual means literally anything other than "attraction to men and women" by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So not only do words no longer have meaning, subscribing to the actual meaning of said words is morally corrupt, got it.

Ps: This list has a way of making everyone other than actual bisexuals bisexual. Fun times.

This is the omnisexual flag, omnisexuality is apart of the pansexual spectrum and is a much lesser known sexuality. Omnisexual is where you attracted to all genders, like pansexual except you have a preference towards a specific gender, unlike pansexual people - r/LGBT. (Look at the comments) by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is absurd. Neoliberalism run amok. Everyone must have their own little identity, and then fight over the little differences. At least they're eating each other alive.

Apparently it's outdated to be a homosexual by EzukiRaen in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

In my experience, they don’t function at all. 100% of the people I know like this literally live in their moms’ basements.

Internalised misogyny + homophobic stereotypes = "gay trans man". Sad, really. by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This person is so painfully confused it’s not even funny.

Boston University survey on sexual/gender identities (bonus "oh noes the terfs have found it!) by blahblahgcer in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hopefully my response (as well as many others from GC people) will show them that GNC and non-binary are NOT the same thing.

Besides random shit people are saying on the internet, what has happened or been said to you IRL that makes you want to drop the T? by fuckupaddams in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Trust me, however bad it is out in the “real world,” it’s nothing compared to these campuses. It’s basically if Reddit were a physical place. Not kidding.

"Women have dicks" "Lesbians like sucking dick" Just repeat it over and over until you brainwash everybody or they leave. by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Someone posts this exact thing on that sub every week. It's become a circle jerk of itself.

Anyone else notice a highly irregular amount of anime in trans communities? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]Constantine 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Studying this phenomenon would be politically incorrect, but it’s an obvious pattern. I’m a huge nerd just like most of these people, but despite my efforts I was never able to get into anime. It always made me uncomfortable for some reason. Now that makes sense. The over-sexualization of women, children, and LGB people is constant. I’m not surprised that impressionable minds were conditioned to go this way based on years of consuming that stuff.

Also, hello fellow aspie! Welcome to the dark side. Too many of us get caught up in this trans/non-binary nonsense.

Am I in the wrong for feeling offended/appropriated by FTM acquaintances? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just because men aren’t a group that has been historically oppressed on a wide scale like women have doesn’t mean that manhood isn’t a unique experience, and that members of that group shouldn’t get to have their own language and spaces to discuss that unique experience and challenges they face because of it.

I think that because of the historical oppression of women, what’s happening to their spaces because of these people is meaningful in a slightly different way, but that in no way means that what’s happening to you isn’t also insidious. You have every right to feel violated and as if your experience is being trivialized, because that’s exactly what’s happening.

Edit to add that in this comment I’m talking about male spaces in general. I would argue that the trans invasion of specifically gay male spaces is insidious in much the same way as the invasion of women’s spaces because of the oppression component. Regardless, the point still stands that this is a violation whether the group in question experiences oppression or not.

Boston University survey on sexual/gender identities (bonus "oh noes the terfs have found it!) by blahblahgcer in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope it was put together by undergrads, given the vague and undefined nature of many of the questions. But knowing how sociology is as a field these days, I would not be surprised if the study was conducted by tenured professors.

They’re not even trying anymore, are they? by Constantine in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

r/TumblrinAction has kind of filled a GC void on Reddit recently. I hope it doesn't get banned, but the TRAs are trying.

They’re not even trying anymore, are they? by Constantine in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine[S] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know, I've seen quite a few of them wear it as a badge of honor on AL. Which might make them even less self-aware, idk

The TRA police are everywhere, even attacking random small publishing companies by Constantine in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will always have sympathy for victims of censorship and cancel culture, whether I agree with them or not. And I don't know, the person seems intelligent and decided to publish this book in the first place, so clearly has some working conception of nuance. I think that there's a difference between people who are truly rabid TRAs and those who just toe the party line to avoid (more) backlash. He's trying to save his company, after all, and given my own profession I have to act similarly at work to avoid losing my livelihood.

I think there are a lot of people who are close to getting it, but not quite there yet. And by writing them off we're doing ourselves a disservice. How many of us were there not so long ago, after all, before we peaked? It's by reaching out to those involved with stuff like this that we can change more minds.

Didn't knew that crossdressers and intersex males/females are trans now... by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah but you see, they don’t actually believe that normal people don’t conform to traditional masculinity and femininity. I’ve had these people go off on me in real life, not just on the Internet, saying I must be lying about my experience of gender, or be a closeted trans man if what I’m saying is true.

The mental leaps know no bounds. Truly, they must feel special at all costs.

What even is non-binary? by Constantine in GenderCritical

[–]Constantine[S] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"trans in mind, but not in body"

sigh I wish I was born much earlier.

What's is this spectrum? by pacmanla in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just another example of these people being obsessed with words while at the same time not actually knowing what they mean. For something to be a spectrum, there by definition must be people at either end of it. Otherwise it's not a spectrum.

For example, political leanings. There are people at either end who are very left or right-wing. Then there's everybody in between. But if everyone were in between, there wouldn't be the need for the "spectrum" since everyone would just have varied opinions and there would be no hard lines. Just like with the autism spectrum: if there aren't any non-autistic people, why would we talk about an autism spectrum? That makes no sense.

I'm willing to wager that there are far more bisexual people in the world than those who identify as such. But I'm also willing to bet that the vast majority of them identify instead as straight, at least until recent woke shenanigans. Think about it, if you were bi, why would you come out as gay or lesbian historically when you had the potential to be attracted to the opposite sex and not face persecution? The fact that gay men and lesbians have existed even in the darkest periods of history is proof enough for me that there are people who are exclusively same-sex attracted.

r/relationship_advice - From Incel to woman, how to forgive myself? (F22) by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]Constantine 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Could they make the incel to TiM pipeline any clearer? Come on woke people, wake up already (ironic pun intended).

The things my acquaintances send to each other on twitter made me realize how little I mean in their eyes... by lazy-summer-god in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I won’t go into details for anonymity’s sake, but mostly birds. And yes, it was very common for birds to pair up in same sex couples when there was a gender imbalance. They even got to “adopt” other birds’ eggs sometimes and raise the babies.

The TRA police are everywhere, even attacking random small publishing companies by Constantine in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Background for those who may not know: The publishing world, much like academia, has been a huge testing ground for all of this shit. It's been going on for years and now nothing can get published without being cleared by "sensitivity readers."

See this NYT article on sensitivity readers: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/books/in-an-era-of-online-outrage-do-sensitivity-readers-result-in-better-books-or-censorship.html

Now, it seems like nothing can be published on a marginally controversial topic in the literary world without getting cancelled, which would seem contradictory with the very goal of art and the written word in the first place.

See this editor's note in one particularly egregious case of a story written by a trans author about the trans experience being retracted for "transphobia:" http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/fall_01_20/

In this Reddit post, a new small publishing company details being attacked for releasing a dystopian novel that's eerily reminiscent of what's going on in Iran right now where people are transed so they won't be LGB. This is also done to remove women from this misogynistic dystopian society. Except the book is not anti-trans (despite the fact that it comes so close, yet so far, from getting why this movement is troubling in the first place), and the company utilized multiple trans "sensitivity readers." Of course, the attacks are coming from people who haven't even read the book (much like with the short story controversy linked above).

Who loses out here? Authors, small presses and magazines, the literary world as a whole, and society at large for being told that actually thinking outside the box amounts to a culturally criminal offense.

edit: grammar

What do you think of ''bisexual'' enbies? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I wish they would leave "bisexual" alone and just be "pan" or whatever other shit they come up with. Then bi people wouldn't have to deal with the majority of our community being bonkers.

The dangers of making someone else's body your business by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I definitely think social media is a big part of all of this. The "Coddling of the American Mind" book that came out a few years ago explains this very well. So does the new Netflix documentary on the subject, to an extent. Social media use has been linked to skyrocketing rates of mental illness in pre-teens, teens, and young adults for a long while now, and we all know that a lot of these gender people are mentally ill.

So now, Gen Z practically has a whole culture around mental illness. And part of mental illness is seeing yourself as at the center of everything (not necessarily in a narcissistic way - common treatment for anxiety, for example, is to reason with yourself and see that other people aren't thinking about you all the time), which means that all of a sudden everyone's mental illness is everyone else's responsibility. You can see this on college campuses with "safe spaces" and all of this nonsense. So when other people are responsible for your own mental states, it's easy to see how we got here. Same message as the anti-bullying campaigns blown way out of proportion.

edit: should probably add my age group. I'm stuck between Millennial/Gen Z, relate to some things with both and not to others. I think those born 1995-1997 are in a weird in-between space. Like we're way worse about all this stuff than older Millennials, but not nearly as bad as younger Gen Z's. Interacting with freshmen on campuses lately has been kind of insane, they're so steeped in this stuff I can't even believe it. And I thought my age group was bad.

Bi-furious rant by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What these people seem to forget is that anyone can not be interested in anyone else for any reason and that's okay. The left used to be the ones championing this mentality against repressive conservative/cultural norms, but these people have gone so far left that they've swung back right again.

Why exactly would you want to be with someone who's not interested in you for your so-called immutable identity again? Why do you care? Oh right, it's just about controlling women and LGB people.

So the new Blue's Clues (you know, that show for 3 and 4 year olds) has nu-wave Pride be what the 'P' stands for in their alphabet song by fuckupaddams in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's misconception about that fallacy. There's a difference between the "slippery slope fallacy" and "slippery slope arguments." All slippery slope fallacies are slippery slope arguments, but not all slippery slope arguments are fallacious. The fallacious ones are defined by the proposed consequences of a said action or movement being wild and unlikely. Clearly, this argument was not as wild and unlikely as we would've liked to think, and thus was not fallacious (in this way - I'd say it still was in other ways since the consequences are with a different group than the same-sex attracted).

They should really rename the fallacy.

They are almost getting it by blackrainbow in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sigh, I saw that post yesterday. I like that that sub exists, and that the comments are mostly sane, but man, I'm wondering where all these people are living that all this "online" rhetoric isn't bleeding into their everyday lives. Like it or not, modern society doesn't have many boundaries between the online world and the "real" world, especially for those of us on the younger side. I agree with the commenters that most of the rhetoric originated online--that's a big part of the problem--but the cat is certainly out of the bag now.

"Women have dicks" "Lesbians like sucking dick" Just repeat it over and over until you brainwash everybody or they leave. by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, because of course everything must be about them, and if their dicks aren’t centered even in lesbian spaces, their fragile egos will come crashing down around them if they haven’t already. Hint: real women are, by and large, not this self-centered about their genitalia.

Why do people think Mulan is trans? by EzukiRaen in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ugh this drives me so nuts. They're doing the same thing to Jo March from Little Women. Just because she liked playing male characters in her skits (because all the available actors were female and someone had to do it), and because she didn't want a man, and because she had to use male pen names to make money, she must've been trans. Misogyny couldn't have anything to do with any of that, no. During the American Civil War. In the 1860s. Because trans was a thing then. Not misogyny /s

edit: 1860s, not 1960s, lol

Why do you think your friends and aquaintences got swept up in the gender craze and you didn't? by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

[–]Constantine 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being raised by a women’s studies professor in an environment with no gender roles and where I was encouraged to question and argue any and everything just for fun helped. I always was told to see all sides of an issue, even when I vehemently disagreed.

I always thought I was super far left growing up in a conservative, religious town. Then I got to college and saw that all the other “super far left” students didn’t believe in free inquiry the way I did. It’s just two sides of the same ideological coin. The truth is almost always somewhere in the middle.

Bisexual tall girl by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This guy is a show runner/staff writer on popular, legitimate shows. I’m gonna go crawl into a hole and die now....

Where's the gay men's awareness campaign???? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s an increasingly common fetish for straight women. If you want to wish you were dead, just look male pregnancy up on the Kindle store. Lots of straight women fetishizing gay men and male pregnancy all over the Internet.

LGB refutation of TQ+, Part 1: Self-defense by PenseePansy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, this is what actually peaked me, really. I just wasn’t raised to be so small-minded that I wouldn’t even give an idea I hated a fair hearing. Even when I thought I 100% agreed with everything the woke people were parroting, it bothered me when they challenged the basic principle of the free exchange of ideas. Which led me to question more than just that.

I’m kind of an unusual person, though, at least for my generation. I don’t think younger people have the kind of appreciation for free thought that other generations have, because they’ve grown up in a time of relatively great social progress, with corresponding ridiculous anti-bullying campaigns in school teaching them that words are like weapons. Previous generations knew that in order to fight for their own rights, they had to protect the rights of those they disagreed with, too. The law isn’t selective, or at least it shouldn’t be.

I don’t know how to reach these people, but the OP’s suggestion seems like the best place to start to me.

Edit: word

"I Am Gay And I Am Done With The LGBT Community" So is she straight? Bisexual? Gay? Pro- or Anti-Trans? What on earth is going on in the LGBT community? by BonesReds in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, that was a whirlwind. She seems like someone who’s been brainwashed by the woke cult to the point where she’s still parroting ridiculous things, but independently-minded enough to smell the bullshit without knowing where it’s coming from.

I mean, props to her for coming out against pronouns and the neoliberalization of sexuality, but um, some of that was painful. This is what we get when the “community” spouts things that are intuitively ridiculous: very confused people who learn to hate themselves.

Do we have a backup to saidit? by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

u/PeakingPeachEater was talking about making a Discord a couple of days ago.

Bookshop stops stocking JK Rowling books amid transphobia backlash by ekitten in GenderCritical

[–]Constantine 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sigh. All the problematic male authors in the history of literature, how many of them do you want to bet are being removed from shelves like this? Oh wait, it's not actually about being "woke" is it? It's just about hating strong (real) women.

AL: Question: What is the correct label for a female only attracted to other females regardless of gender? Answer: Bisexuality. by winterwillow in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for this reminder. I think I needed that today. I wish outsiders looking in also saw the truth of this.

trying to rediscover myself after breaking away from trans ideology, seeking advice by lostandconfused in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hi there,

You're right that you need to be careful about these things given the current climate. I also get the sense that a lot of posters here or on other GC subs/forums are either in other countries or a bit older than us. This kind of stuff can get us fired or worse, and I would be very careful if I were you seeking out a therapist who won't try and push you back down this path. I was very fortunate to find one who is also GC, but that was kind of an accident.

I think the best advice I could give you is to just ask people a lot of questions without straight out (no pun intended, lol) revealing your true feelings on the matter. You'll better be able to get a sense of the person's reaction if you throw up some trial balloons. Such as, asking how someone feels about cancel culture more generally and moving up from there.

I also want to say that I also totally understand where you're coming from and really struggled with this stuff myself, though I never went fully down the rabbit hole. You're not alone - there are all kinds of us out there, we just don't have a lot of ways of finding each other for the aforementioned reasons.

I hope things work out okay for you. It takes a lot of strength and intelligence to question dogma like this when it sucks you in so deep.

LGB refutation of TQ+, Part 1: Self-defense by PenseePansy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think this is the right approach. I think that asserting the ways in which the basic claims and aims of the LGB vs. the TQ+ is more likely to draw more people into what we have to say than going out at the forefront talking about how gender ideology is homophobic, sexist, regressive, etc. It is all those things and more. But people in our current culture have, whether we like it or not, been trained to think that even talking about these issues as if there's a debate to be had is bigoted. That's not a good starting ground for a necessary and open dialogue. The point is to open that dialogue, and then ease into it from there. Culture is a powerful thing, and even well-meaning people who could be swayed to our side with the facts and the logic could instinctively back away if approached in the wrong way on the subject.

Boston University survey on sexual/gender identities (bonus "oh noes the terfs have found it!) by blahblahgcer in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, of course, but it can’t hurt to try and show them that their narrative is wrong. Most of these people just assume the “community” is homogenous and have never had this view challenged.

Day 305528257151 of the brigade of r/askgaybros. by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty sure it's a fifteen year old dude LARPing as a lesbian... And he keeps posting about how he has all women's literal anatomy despite having male anatomy - like, it's not even a "girldick" thing, he literally thinks he has a uterus and cervix hiding in there somewhere.

How to support LGB youth who have gender dysphoria by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The ultimate solution is to get kids to understand that all this “gender” stuff is just socially constructed, and they can be whoever the hell they want. I think that’s what ultimately “cured” my dysphoria issues and made me more comfortable with my body and with womanhood: my parents made a lot of mistakes, but trying to make me conform to strict notions of gender was not one of them. If it weren’t for that, there’s no doubt I would’ve been transed.

The issue is that we can’t mold the outside world like this. The reason I had dysphoria to begin with was because of the disconnect between what my parents told me I could be and what everyone else’s expectations were. So really, I think the best thing to do is just keep talking. The more these kids hear from voices of reason, the less likely they’ll be to do irreparable damage to their bodies and minds.

What’s going on with new guidelines in UK schools is a good start. I’m very worried about the US and Canada, though. We were headed on the right path with viewing gender as just socially constructed and telling kids they could be anything they want, but now there’s this giant swerve out to left field. I’m not sure how to fix this when no one in power is doing anything to stop it here.

Edit to add: we also need to be talking about autism. A disproportionate number of these kids with dysphoria have autism, and there are no doubt more undiagnosed. I was one of them. Kids with autism have a serious mind/body disconnect that makes them particularly susceptible to this ideology. But since the cause is autism, not “being born in the wrong body,” it’s not going to help them, which makes these kids a particular kind of victim here. Talking about this stuff shouldn’t be taboo. The same with AGP and rapid onset gender dysphoria. We need to be talking about these underlying issues and trying to identify and understand them better instead of just sweeping them under the rug.

The TRA police are everywhere, even attacking random small publishing companies by Constantine in LGBDropTheT

[–]Constantine[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Haha, yes, he goes on about picking sensitivity readers who are too "educated" several times in the thread. He really hit the nail on the head with that one, if unwittingly. A similar problem happened with the short story controversy I linked in my background comment.

And yes, I laughed out loud when I read that last part. There's no way this person was any more discerning in other attacks he or she has lodged. The whole post just had me thinking "you are so close, yet so far, from getting it, my friend." But then again, it's getting wrapped up in situations like this that made me peak. Maybe he'll get there. It sounds like an interesting book that comes really close to getting to the main issues with this movement.

Were the "slippery slope" homophobes right? by HelloMomo in LGBDropTheT

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The difference is whether a clear line can be drawn. I think it’s pretty clear (at least to us) that a line can be drawn at LGB. That makes the slippery slope argument against gay marriage a fallacy.

But the slippery slope argument isn’t always a fallacy. It isn’t a fallacy when no clear line can be drawn. And the TRAs tried to exploit the gay rights movement to their own ends, and they succeeded. And now the line is gone and the slope is indeed quite slick.

So, to answer your question, yes and no. It’s not the same, but by letting them co-opt this movement, LGB is certainly making it look like it is.

r/JKRowling bans discussion of gender politics by ekitten in GenderCritical

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I absolutely love how Bluevenor says that “women’s and LGBT rights should never be up for discussion.” So close to getting it, yet so far. The T is bringing women’s rights up for discussion. And human rights can’t conflict by nature. So “trans rights” the way these people see them don’t exist.

JFC. When I read the comments on posts like these, I feel like the world is lost. WTF is wrong with these people. by denverkris in GenderCritical

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Most of them don't even know what she said. They just heard she's a "terf" and that's all they need to know. No engaging with ideas or good faith arguments. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. As I've said before, they're so far left they've swung back right again.

This is why we need to keep pushing back. When people actually see what she said and see what TRAs are trying to do to society and women/LGB, they realize how stupid it is. They're just not paying attention to anything but the clickbait headlines.

The queer woman experience by lovelyspearmint in LGBDropTheT

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Please tell me this is satire.

LGBT in a nutshell. by Destruction in LGBDropTheT

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Oh God, I can't not hear it now.