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[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 59 insightful - 2 fun59 insightful - 1 fun60 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Oh my God. An actual lesbian like me, so female homosexual, would never say or feel something like this. Ever. Were usually paranoid that other women perceive as predatory and just try our best not to be creepy and respect their spaces. Jeez.

[–]refusetoliein a time of universal deceit 35 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

People such as the one in the reddit post believe that a tame version of their fantasies resembles actual lesbian experience. Failing to apprehend that actual lesbians have learned to direct our gaze away from fellow women to avoid making them feel creeped on.

I have a habit of adopting a fixed stare when lost in thought or trying to avoid processing anything in my line of sight, and I had to train myself to deviate from this habit and intentionally focus on a wall so as to avoid a misperception that I was staring at a fellow girl in the locker room.

Even when I was a teenager and inadvertently caught peeks before I learned to control my gaze, those moments became inextricably linked to the embarrassment and remorse they evoked in me when I realized what had happened, robbing me of an ability to enjoy those sights later. Lacking such experience and the most rudimentary empathy preclude understanding this. And when it comes to empathy, people typically regard me as deficient.

[–]GConly 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen some posts on Reddit from women dealing with transwomen in the changing rooms.

Ranging from a flamboyant but harmless HSTS just not getting the 'we don't socialise in here' rules, to the guy with tits masturbating in the showers next to the women getting changed.

I wonder how many if their wank fantasies would be ruined if we swapped to 'single stall only' as a culture.

[–]SillyMoneyGoose 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Same! Even when I was a child and used to attend ballet classes, I would always get very nervous at the thought of glancing at other women/girls in the locker rooms, and wasn’t aware I was a lesbian. Also changing has never been something I ever did in any way other than trying to be as little ‘exposed’ as possible

[–]MyLongestJourney 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Were usually paranoid that other women perceive as predatory and just try our best not to be creepy and respect their spaces.

Yeap. And I am forever avoiding friendly hugs and kisses,because I fear other women might think I am perving on them.

[–]Seahorse 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I typically have issues coming out to straight girls because I'm terrified they are worried of this (even for a millisecond).

[–]Eurowoman24 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

straight girl here, my best friend came out to me as bisexual a few months back. It's not an issue unless your behaviour actually changes that way

[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same.

[–]reluctant_commenter 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

EXACTLY. Wtf. The number of times I have avoided changing around other women. I still avoid even looking at women sometimes if I'm feeling extra paranoid... I have so much internalized homophobia over fears that I am predatory (was told lesbians are predatory when I was growing up).

edit: Clearly a bunch of other people relate as well lol, maybe I'll make a post on this topic. Thank you for being so open about it, I'm kind of glad it's not just me lol but also sorry to hear you and other people feel this way too.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh it's definitely not just you. I used to change as fast as possible to avoid looking at the others by accident. I didn't want them to feel uncomfortable, and I wasn't even out yet! I had this paranoid worry that they would somehow "know" I was gay and feel creeped on/objectified. I think we have this kind of awareness from growing up female, and experiencing objectification from men from young. Adult men started staring and looking at me when I was 12, and I never wanted to cause any girl feel the deep discomfort I had felt from those men's looks.

[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had this paranoid worry that they would somehow "know" I was gay and feel creeped on/objectified.

Yeah, same...... it's a lot. Thanks for sharing, makes me feel a little better that it's not just me.

[–]sleepless-dreamer 42 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 0 fun43 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh my fucking god, the fact that he tries to garner sympathy with the "pain and dysphoria" being hard to handle. Yeah, fuck you, dude. The rest of us manage our pain without creeping on people. I have never ogled other women in the locker room, bathroom, or whatever other spaces you're invading.

[–]MyLongestJourney 41 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 0 fun42 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

100% female and 100% homosexual here. I have never even thought of doing something like this to other women. What a creep.

[–]Constantine 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The failure to apprehend that lesbian and bi women actually avoid doing this because it’s so creepy is proof itself that this person is 100% male.

God, the complete and utter shame I still feel when inadvertently in these situations.... We’re women, we know what it’s like to be creeped on in intimate spaces. We wouldn’t do it to someone else, regardless of attraction.

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 29 insightful - 5 fun29 insightful - 4 fun30 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

lmao how are you the victim here, guy? 😂

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 11 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

bc he's twans u_u

[–]Seahorse 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope these come out of the woodwork a bit more.

They're all creepy incels that want to fuck lesbians, that's why they get so angry when none of their manipulations of society work (genital preference, gender colonialist, vagina fetishist etc).

[–]BusterGrundle 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Spoken just like a pervy dude. Congrats.

[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I treat people the way I want to be treated, and if that's "cis normative" then so be it.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 15 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

"It's only bad to do what I do if you define it as such. I self identify as a good person, so I can't be a creep!"

[–]Catbug 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It’s okay for me to creep because it makes me feel good. And that’s an acceptable excuse for a man to be a filthy pervert. Unbelievable.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

We just wanna pee tho :c let us pee :CCC it's just about pee guys :CCCC

[–]ShotTopic 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I tracked down that thread. Pretty sure the user with removed comments (red) is a troll. People pointed out they had 0 post history prior to that post and now their profile is deleted entirely. It was on a trans sub and everyone was calling them out / disagreeing with OP. The person calling OP does appear to actually be trans from their profile.