"It's not about the dick, it's about what's attached to the dick"

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[–]strictly 34 insightful - 18 fun34 insightful - 17 fun35 insightful - 18 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not attracted to the men attached to the dicks either.

[–]SapphicFox 38 insightful - 9 fun38 insightful - 8 fun39 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not attracted to male born people, whether they keep their dicks or chop them off. Hope that's broken down simple enough for their grape sized brains to understand.

[–]homosomes 36 insightful - 6 fun36 insightful - 5 fun37 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

These men are trying so hard to convince lesbians to sleep with them. It's so transparent I don't know how anyone can't smell the homophobia from miles away.

[–]chupacabrawitchI'm super thanks for asking 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's straight up predatory. They got the woke in their pocket ready to "cancel" anyone who disagrees with them. Like a gotcha now sleep with me bigot.

[–]reluctant_commenter 36 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

From the American Psychological Association's website:

fetish

n.

  1. a material object (e.g., a shoe, an undergarment, an animal fur or hide) or nonsexual part of the body (e.g., a foot, lock of hair) that arouses sexual interest or excitement.

Consistent sexual arousal from human genitals determines sexual orientation, not the presence of a fetish.

There is no such thing as a "genital fetish" and anyone who uses this phrase does not understand what a fetish is (or understands and is trying to push an agenda based on misinformation, anyway).

[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 12 fun23 insightful - 11 fun24 insightful - 12 fun -  (4 children)

nonsexual part of the body (e.g., a foot, lock of hair) that arouses sexual interest or excitement.

Fetishists being like... "nonsexual? Excuse me?"

[–]reluctant_commenter 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Maybe they ought to specify that the subject of a fetish is something that is not a sexual organ or a sex characteristic, lol.

I have heard people make the same mistake with women's breasts-- saying that some people are "breast fetishists" or something.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Right? If it has to do with reproduction--not a fetish. If it cannot demonstrate reproductive fitness, say, feet or latex, then yeah, fetish.

[–]reluctant_commenter 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting, I think it speaks to the fact that they may not have thought how the definition might be easily misinterpreted by some parties. I'll keep an eye out for that in the future, I could definitely see how that might confuse some people. It seems like a small point but we do need to be clear about our definitions in order to progress anywhere with conversations about human sexuality.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely. Another problem I see with the concept of a fetish is that people assume it's some kind of gatekeeper. Once the fetish is present, then the person can have sex, because they're sufficiently physiologically aroused (where arousal certainly is conducive to intercourse.) Or that normal sexual desire won't be present in that person until the fetish is present and acted on. All roads, apparently, lead to sex. Everyone desires sex.

But what if it's only the fetish a person wants, and they don't have an intrinsic motivation for sex? Think of the 10% of AGP with an orientation of identity of asexual.

I think both are right, it depends on that individual for how much of their sexuality is comprised of a normal desire, and how much is fetishistic. Most people want plain sex. Some people want plain sex and some kink with it. There. I've defined a continuum. Take it to it's logical conclusion--some people only want kink, and no sex.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it will be a fetish, if you like genitals disattached from body. Pathologic one, but still.

[–]Rosefield 30 insightful - 6 fun30 insightful - 5 fun31 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

No, both are the problem. Trans fantasy land is a hellish place.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 25 insightful - 14 fun25 insightful - 13 fun26 insightful - 14 fun -  (0 children)

More like it's about trans people BEING dicks.

[–]julesburm1891 28 insightful - 5 fun28 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

I really don’t understand how people think there’s some kind of gendered soul in people and that’s what makes all the difference. I’m not sexually attracted to women and sexually repulsed by men because of some omnipotent, yet subjective, internal state. I’m into women because I find female bodies attractive. I’m not into men because I don’t find male bodies attractive. This shouldn’t be difficult.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Exactly. I've been talking with some trans-aligned people and they just want to deny, deny, deny anything to do with sexed bodies--maleness, femaleness. They consistently start talking about some sort of mythical other quality that they apparently revolve around, but can't quite express what that is. Let alone any way to objectively measure it. Often they talk about gender, but not always.

[–]Rosefield 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They created their own religion

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It sure seems that way. What a great lens for me to revisit my last comment through.

Belief in and adherence to something that can't be empirically measured. That "thing" being what we're all expected to be attracted to or not. The worst vitriol reserved for the apostates--LGB. Heterosexuals are ignorant savages that need converted.

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 24 insightful - 7 fun24 insightful - 6 fun25 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

Another grown ass trans woman with all the sexual technique and career ambitions of a teenage boy who read Green Eggs And Ham too many times. If you're going to be another dime-a-dozen gAmInG STuDiO, maybe read a book about how to run a business, the first tip is probably "keep your personal life and flagrant homophobia off the public relations account." Also, if 75% of your pickup lines and flirtation game consists of "but" and "what if," you're unfuckable, correct yourself.

[–]reluctant_commenter 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Also, if 75% of your pickup lines and flirtation game consists of "but" and "what if," you're unfuckable, correct yourself.

Or just a creep... ugh. Such people could learn to behave in a boundary-respecting, appropriate manner, but will they? Certainly not if society is encouraging of their refusal to take a "no"!

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 20 insightful - 15 fun20 insightful - 14 fun21 insightful - 15 fun -  (2 children)

You could attach a dick to Jennifer Lopez and still I wouldn't touch it with a stick.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 11 fun11 insightful - 10 fun12 insightful - 11 fun -  (1 child)

What about a dick on a stick?

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 12 insightful - 11 fun12 insightful - 10 fun13 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

What about a dick on a stick?

Burn the stick with all the dick

[–][deleted] 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To throw the TRA's a bone, the majority of people have sexual attraction to others before their baggy pants come off. They just don't get to seem the idea that most people are weirded out by a body that isn't phenotypical, nor do they understand that sexual attraction revolves around sexed bodies. They think there's some other sort of abstract quality in people that's got nothing to do with sex and that is what sexual attraction is really based on. It's so clearly wrong, and I'm really tired of explaining reality to fuckwits. If only there was a way to get these people off the internet and into the Real World and let that do the explaining for me. People agreeing with you on Twitter to appear woke isn't a currency that much gets you anywhere in life.

I think TRA's and trans are deceiving themselves, not that trans people actually do have some other attraction axis they work on that isn't sexed bodies--all the while they're obsessed with sexed bodies and their modification. Of course, a fair number of them have the subjectivity inversion of AGP, and that's coloring their thinking about how the majority of people work. They only have their subjective experience and think it's a universal experience; clearly not so. Are there other axes to sexual orientation? Sure. Straight women, for instance, tend to value social status in men... but it is, at the end of the day, men they desire. Not other women with high social status.

[–]8bitgay 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

To throw the TRA's a bone, the majority of people have sexual attraction to others before their baggy pants come off.

IMO one of the issues with their "you don't know people's genitals when you first see them" argument is that it goes against their own definition of sexuality. Sure, you "don't know" people's genitals (let's pretend that, even though only a small amount of people would actually pass as the opposite sex). But you don't know how they identify either. You can't see what's inside their pants but you can't see what's inside their mind either. So really this argument works against their notion that sexuality is based on gender identity.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

but you can't see what's inside their mind either.

Not in terms of the narrow scope of "gender identity" where one has this internal, incommunicable sense that they are either a man or a woman, no.

A trans woman who presents as a male won't engender any sexual interest from straight men by simply telling them "I am a woman..." but that's how things are supposedly meant to work, according to TRA's.

I don't mean to be deliberately unkind or unnecessarily cruel, but pointing out the situation as I see it is a kindness, of sorts:

They've jumped into a sociosexual rolling dumpster fire with the transness. Nobody wants to date trans. We have the research. This is the outcome. Somehow I become the problem because I don't want to partner with people who are doing god-knows-what to their bodies with horomones and surgeries. Who have something that is probably best considered a mental disorder with other comorbid psychopathologies. We don't treat schizophrenia by telling people that the voices in their head are real. Why would any reasonable person bother with that? For woke points? I don't care about being woke, and most other people don't care about being woke either. They're just going along with it because they don't want to be accused of bigotry, but they're not really on your side when the bar closes. The hammer on all this stuff is going to fall eventually, and it's gonna be ugly. To me, it's just a question now of who gets dragged down along with it.

This last set of points has an idea irrespective of trans ideology: Why date trans when you have much better options? People try and pick the best romantic and sexual partners available to them. That's human nature. Go ahead, call me a transphobe. I'm not afraid of trans people. I'm simply just not interested when I've got better options.

[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Typical attitude of a person who's put themselves in a completely untenable situation and is now trying to modify reality to fix their problem.

"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed." -- Francis Bacon

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s about both the dick as well as what is attached to the dick. So having a penis disqualifies you from lesbians.

[–]Constantine 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I swear, all those anti-bullying campaigns when we were kids really backfired. "It's what's on the inside that counts." That's not what we were supposed to get out of that. Everyone's so fragile now, I swear to God...

[–]fuck_reddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also taught kids how to bully each other...

[–]hunther 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Too bad I'm still going to date women and make love to women. Do they think that being a lesbian is somehow a card that can be revoked just cause I hate dicks and men? Sorry I'm not insecure in my sexuality

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder what the mental gymnastics would be if I agreed to try dick, but with a normal man and not one of them.

[–]MatthewofHouseGraySuper straight ally :) 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"If all you're attracted to are genitals, you're not a lesbian.'

Isn't being attracted to the other person's genitals one of the aspects of your sexuality? For example I'm a straight male and I'm attracted to vaginas because they just so happen to be an aspect on women who are the people which make up my sexuality attraction.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not about the dick, it's about what's attached to the dick

Well, if it's attached to a TRA/TQ+ member, then no thanks.

I like my dicks and vaginas home grown and natural.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, so being attracted to a cross-dresser is not a fetish but being attracted to a sex is??? Maybe stop calling it SEXuality then and idk call it genderality instead and leave us, normal people alone???