RantSad watching so many lesbians and bi women rejecting womanhood

submitted by oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ from self.LGBDropTheT

I'm just so sad seeing so many lesbian or bi women rejecting womanhood and transitioning or claiming to be nb or something of the sort. Since when is being a lesbian or liking women means you're not a woman or less of one? Like for real. It seems like being a lesbian these days supposedly means you're rejecting womanhood in some way. So wrong! As a proud woman and proud lesbian, this saddens me so much. I love women and femininity. For me, watching ANY woman rejecting their womanhood is an instant deal breaker. Even femme lesbians claim to be ~non binary~. I want a WOMAN. Not a "non woman" or a women with her body altered with surgeries and testosterone injections. I feel increasingly frustrated because it seems like nowadays the only "normal" women are STRAIGHT! God, what an awful time to be lesbian.

PS: I really want to talk to someone who understands. It feels so lonely, I swear. If you want, feel free to pm me.

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[–]Constantine 48 insightful - 1 fun48 insightful - 0 fun49 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, this shit is so depressing. I took a break from this forum and all the outrage for a while because it was making me too depressed, and then the whole “Elliot” Page thing happened and now I feel worse about the world than ever.

I worry so much for young girls right now. There’s no way I wouldn’t have started to question my “gender” if Page has done this when I idolized her in high school during her X-Men years.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm so sorry you feel this way. 2020 has been such a great year, huh...

I worry so much for young girls right now.

This. I worry so much about young gays, lesbians and bis. In particular GNC women and men. :(

[–]Dravidian 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I've been very depressed since Ellen came out. That and I just... see trans stuff everywhere all the time. Facebook, Reddit, everywhere I like to scroll mindlessly there's trans stuff every six posts it seems. Meanwhile who is talking about lesbians ever? Nobody, unless it's to tell them they suck and they should accept dick in their lives.

A documentary about a 8 years old transed little boy just came out in France and it's absolutely mind bogglingly outrageous. The mom has had a couple of girl foetuses miscarriages and she outright said she would be happier if her son was a girl. So of course the poor baby wants to please his mom. So he's being indoctrined into being a little girl and nobody.questions.it. in the documentary. And people drink it up.

I'm just so mad. it's starting in my country, nearly none of my friends agree with me, I feel immensely alone and discouraged. How long until they realize how harmful it is for women, lesbians, gnc women, and children? Why is everybody so blind??? How did that fucking happen? A friend of mine compared terves to policemen beating up black people. I yelled at her. At least she understood she went too far but man, it really shows how people have no fucking idea what gender critical people's points are.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

A documentary about a 8 years old transed little boy just came out in France and it's absolutely mind bogglingly outrageous. The mom has had a couple of girl foetuses miscarriages and she outright said she would be happier if her son was a girl. So of course the poor baby wants to please his mom. So he's being indoctrined into being a little girl and nobody.questions.it. in the documentary. And people drink it up.

Oh my god, that's heartbreaking. Mind if I ask, what is the name of it...?

I'm just so mad. it's starting in my country, nearly none of my friends agree with me, I feel immensely alone and discouraged. How long until they realize how harmful it is for women, lesbians, gnc women, and children? Why is everybody so blind???

I 1000% feel you. It is so much, to feel so powerless. But-- at the same time, it is worth observing, trans rights activists and pro-trans billionaires who make money off of trans medicalization are trying to silence people like us. I think there is actually far more support for our beliefs than is immediately apparent when you open up the news or look at the people immediately around you. Just my 2 cents.

[–]Dravidian 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hey it's called "petite fille" on the channel "Arte".

And I hope so... I hope so.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Yeah, lesbophobia and hate for gender nonconforming women is on a huge raise. While after transing they are praised, it is easy way to get away from all the social hate towards lesbians and GNC women. It is seen by all of them often claiming "I am he/they/fae - just anything but woman, please".

Recently stumbled on this videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTQngMEDocw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrnJOSk-3kA

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is really nice...I appreciate you sharing this as a (detrans) GNC woman. I used to get bullied for looking more masculine and got called the f-slur and t-slur and "boy" a lot when I'm not...

In recent years, I dress more androgynous or plain to avoid dealing with that shit, and sometimes feminine to fit in but I feel really awkward and out of place doing so most times... When people hear me talk(if I need to get something done over the phone), they think still confuse me as a boy...My male friends back in college would laugh if I did anything they deemed as "girly" because "You're a tomboy!". Then my coworkers told me they thought I was "gay" because I didn't look "straight" to them. Wtf does "looking straight" mean?? Why do we need these dumb labels and who cares how people dress/act like?? What if I don't feel like dressing hyper masculine all the time? Why does my voice/dressing style determine my sexuality??? Ug...I actually wear a lot of my man's clothes right now lol. I like his gear more than my raggity ass clothes---I haven't really bought clothes in a long time and had some for maybe close to 5 years+ that don't fit right lol.

My liberal STALKING hippy pan/bi coworker tried comforting me saying "Nooo, you don't look like or sound like a boy to me" and I just said "oh...thanks." lol. She'll pretty much say whatever to yes(wo)man to people---so she'll agree with me, but if someone else disagrees with me, she'll agree with them like an indecisive pleb. I feel like I need to get away from this coworker, because I didn't text her for a couple of days one time and she said "I was so worried, that I was going to show up at your apartment" and got upset with me and uhm...We...don't have that kind of relationship, please leave me alone. I'm not your token "brown bisexual" friend who you think is progressive and on the LGBTQIA+ side, no I'm not. But I keep my mouth shut so I don't get fired at this stupid woke job...Anyways...I digress.

Anyhow... I really appreciate you sharing these videos, it's nice to feel like I'm not alone! ♥

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and "boy" a lot when I'm not...

Why misgendering laws are working only one way? Why you can not call transwoman as "boy" and "he", but you can call and bully woman by calling her "boy" and "he"?

This hate to gnc women (mostly towards young) is so big for some reason, in 90s-00s it was other way around, women finally got stigma about women wearing "men's cloth" away. And seems today because of this Gender Ideology movement - sexist stereotypes are back, especially among young people.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was many years back, being called these names made me want to transition to a boy as a teen because I was confused. Then in college, I experimented with femininity but once I became young adult, I was back to dressing (mostly) hyper masculine and many STILL called me a "boy". During my hyper masculine "phase", I had this girl trying to find out my pronouns(she was part of some college LGBTQIA+ and a bit younger than me, so that made me uncomfortable for those two reasons) and had a crush on me, it was awkward...

Now I am just androgynous/basic clothes. Nothing overtly masculine or feminine I suppose. I like men's clothes but hate I can't dress hyper masculine anymore because I think of those times of getting bullied. I also had a rowdy group of guys come into my former job and call me a "motherfucker" and tried to start some shit, which was scary, but my former boss defended me lol. But when I dress feminine, I get catcalled and stalked. I feel like I can't win. I just try to hide and look as plain as possible.

In my mother's culture---well, technically both my mother and father's culture---I am "mixed race"---they are highly misogynistic. My mother used to say to me how much of an embarrassment I am to her whenever I dressed masculine...She wanted me to shave, wear makeup, pluck my caterpillar eyebrowes, wear tight "girly" clothes, straightened my "frizzy"(it was curly) hair, and she even gave me her USED underwear because "it didn't fit" her. I rejected it and she got FURIOUS with me and tried to control me. She also used to make very gross comments about my body all the time and slapping me on the butt which was highly uncomfortable, I say to her stop but she told me she can do what she wants since she's my mother and I can't take jokes. Yeah...

Idk, she was something else and a whole nother story. My father was no better, he used to control my mother too. She couldn't talk to men(including male coworkers and he was jealous when she talked to her brother), couldn't wear skirts, and he accused her of lying all the time.

But anyways lol, my maternal family is embarrased when I dress GNC and try to correct me and put me into certain gender roles, such as "women in the kitchen" and "men provide".

The reason why I fight back so hard against the transgender ideology is because it's sexist. Basically it's "You like XYZ? Then you're secretly a man! You like ABC? You're secretly a woman!". I hate it and trying to explain in real life to people falls on deaf ears that I gave up.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're a very brave, strong and beautiful woman <3

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are very kind! :)

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing! :D

[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

These are amazing videos, thank you so much for sharing.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I actually found where I saw them, it was /u/worried19 on Ovarit! So thanks to her too.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think /u/worried19 is another GNC bi woman---It's been a long time since we spoke, hello! :D

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Hey, nice to see you. Did I know you by another name on Reddit?

Technically heterosexual here, but definitely GNC.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No, I haven't been on Reddit for a couple of years but I'm on Ovarit under a different user. However, it's been awhile since I really commented of posted on Ovarit. I like that Ovarit is a female-only space but...I don't follow any idealogy.

I remembered talking to you about being gender non-conforming in an opposite-sex relationship---sorry for jumping to conclusion thinking you were bi! I am GNC bi woman in opposite-sex relationship too.

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Good to see you over here. Ha, I feel kind of fractured juggling Saidit, Reddit, and Ovarit. Of the three, I like Ovarit best, although they don't have a debate circle, so I still hang around on Saidit mostly for s/GCdebatesQT.

I always felt like it would make more sense if I were bisexual, but I don't seem to be. As far as I can tell. My sexual orientation was a lot clearer to me than my gender. I think that was why I questioned if I was trans because I figured if I wasn't a lesbian, there was no reason for me to be so masculine. Luckily I found GC thought before I wandered too far down that path.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe I should go back to Reddit...I've made/deleted many accounts over the years for anonyminity. I still have one left that's a lurker account that I haven't touched.

That's actually really smart to go to s/GCdebatesQT in order to not be stuck in an echo chamber. Currently, for me, at work, I'm STUCK in a QT/super liberal echo chamber so I come to this sub, the GC sub, s/bisexuals, etc to have some sanity away from it. I'll have to take a look at that debate sub though, it's good to question why we believe something and it can help strengthen your argument/beliefs too!

I can relate in regards to sexual orientation bring clearer than gender...Although, where you thought you were bi, I thought I was a lesbian at the time(in denial), so tried to transition to be "straight" and fit-in as "normal". Yeah, I didn't/don't mind being masculine but hate how I got treated when I was hyper masculine...I "toned it down" quite a bit...I guess...

Same! Happy that I found GC as well!

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reddit is mostly a cesspool, but I still hang out there for r/antikink. I dip into other subs once in a while, but it's not like it used to be.

[–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey, you're welcome. I like those videos because they're short and really get to the heart of the matter.

[–]lulululululu 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I completely understand. My womanhood is extremely important to me, so it was depressing to be in LGBT spaces (Ive never had a specifically lesbian space irl... sad) and hear 24/7 about how evil and violent “cis” women were. We’re not the ones killing trans people, it’s straight men doing that, but they never acknowledge that. People really just hated women, and use queer theory to make hating women woke.

It’s so sad for me to have to say this, but I’m now mainly only friends with straight women and I’m just a lot happier than when I was friends with self-hating “queer” women who reject womanhood. I do miss having a community though, so I’m grateful for these online spaces such as these.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow, that sucks. Thanks for sharing your personal experience. But I feel ya - nowadays, I prefer to be around straight people, though I miss having a community like you :(

[–]Franklintheturtle 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I was in a discord server and there was a couple in the server, one was non binary. The other one said something about how she liked kissing girls/her girlfriend and the other one reminded her that she wasn't a girl. I felt so bad for the girlfriend, like she couldn't even say she liked female bodies because her gf didn't think she was a woman.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's exactly one of the million reasons why I refuse to date self-hating women. I'm a WOMAN who loves other WOMEN, and I want to be able to express it and not walk on eggshells

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    [–]windrunner 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Can someone remove the obvious troll in the comments please

    [–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    I don't have any wise commentary, just-- same. :(

    I don't know about you but I've kind of resigned myself to probably being single for the next like 5-10 years while gender ideology hits the fan. I just don't know that many women who are lesbian/bisexual, period, let alone ones who don't buy into the gender cult. And personally, I don't know if I have the energy to try to comb through people to find someone and face verbal attacks or social ostracizing if I run into a particularly committed TRA. The thought depresses me. But, what else can I do, lol? Sorry, this probably won't help your mood, haha.

    edit: misspelled

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    Are you so sure gender ideology will hit the fan?

    [–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Yes, I am. I think it will take time; if you think that timeframe is too soon, that's understandable. But I think the vast majority of people, certainly of straight people, do not realize what queer theory is let alone why it is homophobic (at least in its popular form today), and queer theory is the foundation for gender ideology. I think Keira Bell's victory in the UK is a promising sign that the tide is starting to turn.

    Are you more in doubt, yourself? Just curious. Happy to hear another perspective.

    [–]les4leshomonormative 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I honestly don't know what I think about whether it'll hit the fan or not. A lot of people have sunk a lot of time and energy into it. I try to steer clear of "trans cult" accusations because I think they're extreme, but it does have a lot of parallels and the most notable one to me is how difficult it's going to be for people to wake up, whether they're trans-identified or just allies. I think any backlash that comes is going to be extremely homophobic and conservative and unfortunately that's going to push a lot of the trans lobby even further into queer theory bullshit

    [–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I try to steer clear of "trans cult" accusations because I think they're extreme

    Extreme accusations for extreme behaviors. Trans rights activists' behaviors, beliefs, and actions are extreme, and they follow a specific set of beliefs, so I think it is plenty justified to describe gender ideology as cult-like. Relevant definitions from Oxford English Dictionary (as just one example, not that I think of this as a particular authority):

    1. a way of life, an attitude, an idea, etc. that has become very popular

    2. a small group of people who have extreme religious beliefs and who are not part of any established religion

    3. a system of religious beliefs and practices

    https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/cult_1#:~:text=a%20small%20group%20of%20people,home%20and%20joined%20a%20cult.

    You could argue that only definition #1 applies to gender ideology-- but that's still a fair use of the word. Gender ideology does not strictly speaking involve a belief in some sort of god(s) or supernatural force, so you can't exactly call it a religion, but it is an ideology that employs cult tactics. Examples of cult-like behavior I've seen from hardcore trans rights activists:

    • love bombing and a surrogate family - you can see this on the trans subreddits, AL (actualtransbians, that is), "transball" subreddits, etc. Anybody who comes out as trans or as a trans defender is 1. lavished with praise 2. if they haven't come out as trans, are bombarded with messages that they may be in denial about being trans.
    • shunning -- cancel culture is one example of this, but I've also witnessed this on a much smaller level among people my age (I'm in my 20s) who put down, dismiss, and encourage others to avoid anyone who is deemed even slightly "problematic"
    • elitism -- if you don't agree with gender ideology you are deemed ignorant, stupid, unenlightened, a bigot, whatever. Active discouragement of engagement with people who disagree.
    • people who leave the group are villainized -- esp. detrans people whose stories and experiences don't fit the idealized narratives of gender ideology.

    Not really a source but just a place I found some of those examples: https://blog.usejournal.com/how-cults-entrap-people-d2f012c10149

    Sorry, I know it might seem like I'm splitting hairs here, but your comment made me curious enough to read about it more, so thank you very much, lol.

    I honestly don't know what I think about whether it'll hit the fan or not.

    Totally fair. I know while we're in the middle of this, it certainly seems difficult to imagine the world not being this way.

    [–]les4leshomonormative 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I've seen a lot of comparisons of trans activism and cult behavior so I definitely understand where they're coming from! Honestly my reluctance to use it mostly stems from a place of not wanting to push away people that might be on the fence. I have a few libfem friends that are close to peaking but not quite there yet, so I try to moderate my language to keep from coming off as transphobique

    I know while we're in the middle of this, it certainly seems difficult to imagine the world not being this way.

    This might be the rest of the reason I feel this way, hahaha. I'm only in my early 20s so waiting 5-10 years for this to blow over seems impossible

    [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh, that totally makes sense. I never start out with "it's a literal cult" when talking to people about it IRL, I agree.

    Also in my early 20s, I feel ya. :) At least we'll be in our late 20s/early 30s by that point in time. It really frustrates me though, not gonna lie.

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Thank you for your answer <3 it already helps listening to someone who understands. And same. Finding other bi or lesbians women is hard in these times.. Especially when in my degree it's mostly straight males lmao. Like, in my class there's like 5 women. And this is many, because usually it's like 2 or 3 per class lmaoooo. Hugs <3 (ill answer to your other comment too in a while :))

    [–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Aw, of course <3 I'm glad you posted about this!! Makes me feel less alone. Oof, your degree does sound pretty male-dominated, that sucks.

    Also:

    I feel increasingly frustrated because it seems like nowadays the only "normal" women are STRAIGHT!

    I feel a little terrible saying it but I am also having this experience, hahaha. The few LB women I know my age are almost all on the pro-trans hype train. It's so painful to watch... and yet, I am well aware that I have little to gain and a lot to lose if I challenged them on it. It feels really fucking weird to be more comfortable talking with my straight friends about my sexual orientation or LGB issues than people who are actually L/G/B themselves.

    Also no pressure on responding to my other comment, we've all got enough to deal with these days :)

    [–]les4leshomonormative 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Are you a STEM major? >_<

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Yes ahahahahha

    [–]les4leshomonormative 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    goddddddd

    i'm in a branch of engineering that tends to have more women in it by which i mean... we're only outnumbered 2 to 1

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

    An awful time to be a lesbian? Trying being a lesbian decades ago. Just find someone normal. There are normal lesbians, not everyone is into gender ideology, especially in Europe. I'm sad, but to be honest, I got much more important shit to worry about than delusional women

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

    "Just find someone normal" Any tips on how to find someone normal? Genuinely asking.

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

    It can be sheer luck. Like randomly strumbling upon an amazing incredible perfect math, woman from Ukraine, who you hope one day could be your actual girlfriend.

    [–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    LMAO, stahp :D

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Life is a matter of luck. You can find the most amazing beautiful woman in the world just like when you least expect it ;)

    [–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Making me blush on public again!

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Just saying the true

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

    Well I was hoping to be someone from my country at least lmao. Especially because I don't know if I even want a gf (maybe something more casual) so physical contact is important to me

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    Use tinder. If only casual then you shouldn't care about their character. Character only matter when you want something serious. Which is what I want.

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    No. Just because I want something more casual, it doesn't mean I want to bang anyone lmao.

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    Not anyone, but really for casual thing you can find bisexuals who are usually pretty normal. For serious things, then is way more difficult to find someone compatible. But you live in Portugal, gender ideology isn't bad in South Europe. At least for now

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    😂😂😂 Look, I'm surrounded by straight males, were in the middle of a pandemia, I can't download "known" apps like Tinder because I really don't want any of my straight male classmates to find me there and bi people are usually the ones who tend to be more TRA. In fact, what I see the most in Portugal, is TRA bi people. And how do you know I'm from Portugal?? I practically don't see lesbians. Maybe one in every 5 or 6 bi people at best. In Portugal, we're late but it isn't necessarily that good because we're heading in the same direction and because we're so late, most people won't understand where I'm coming from and think I'm just a hateful person while I'm seeing the gender ideology kicking in my country. If you don't know how to help besides saying "just do", then just don't answer lmao.

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    I know you're from Portugal because we spent days chatting, but you were less bitter in the past :D

    There is no other way to meet homosexual /bi women than dating sites. You could go in so gay specific places, but then you will likely find a lot of trans ideology. Dating site allow you to access a lot of women you will ever meet. Nobody can't help you if you're afraid to use them because of people knowing. I doubt someone else can give you any better advice than this

    [–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Giggle is female only, and there some for dating. But there not as much women as in other places, but they are there much less into gender ideology.

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    I don't know you, sorry... Have a nice day

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    My new strategy is that on my bumble profile I straight up say that gender identities are a deal-breakers for me (along with habitual pot use, and her having a boyfriend).

    [–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Can we just report, block, and ignore the troll in the comments? He doesn’t even bring up interesting points. Just likes to be extremely misogynistic and homophobic while accusing everyone else of being misogynistic and transphobic. A very boring, basic troll.

    [–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's strange to me how right around the time the "gays/lesbians aren't real men/women" rhetoric died down we suddenly have gays/lesbians willingly giving up being a real man or woman...

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Exactly. It's so ironic. That's why this TQ+ is literally a parasite to our community.

    [–]Liz-B-Anne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yep, we peaked with The L Word. It's been all downhill from there. :(

    I'm now single again and life is not looking positive. Feel even worse for kids growing up in this. I would've been transed for sure.

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