TheBeefBenson

I think I already said that it was because they tend to be radical feminists. Since I fundamentally disagree with them on many points I don't feel there's much sense having a discussion when there's a pretty low ceiling on what we can talk about. I also feel they are prone to ideological puritanism and can have very conservative and restrictive opinions on what women and men can do in a consensual environment.

Also, as a man I don't feel comfortable intruding in what I perceive to be a woman's space, which is the impression I get from GC. However, I think ideas have to be free from belonging to any group and must exist on their own merit. So sometimes I'd like to speak on issues but I worry about ruffling too many easily ruffled feathers and wasting my time as well as worrying if it's appropriate that I do speak at all.

Lastly, the lack of accountability shown when it comes to the role feminism has played in creating this situation leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Feminism has been the dominant cultural force for quite a while now. They were silent if not supportive when provable absurdities like the "gender pay gap" were pushed, they were silent or supportive when the concept of manhood was totally denigrated and never framed in a positive context, they were silent if not gleeful when the outrage mobs and the witch hunts started, when they denied due process, when they sought equity over equality, when they pushed ideology before facts. This censorious culture we must now all endure was brought in by feminism. The ideology of feminism has marched, almost lock step, with left wing authoritarianism, with Marxism, socialism and even communism. Now women are no longer needed to fulfil the left's plans they have been abandoned and the radical feminists seem to be more agreived that they lost control of the movement rather than questioning whether they should have been part of it all and they role they played in ushering it in.

Yet is not only the part feminism has played in siding with authoritarianism, but also the inadvertent creation of the trans epidemic itself. Young men have been taught from a young age that being born male is a cardinal sin, that identifying with masculinity is toxic, that the whole western world is based on a tyrannical patriarchy that allows women no autonomy or power. Told this by organisations, by an education system, a media, that was totally dominated by the will of feminism, told this by women who had power over them; as they denied they had power over any men at all because some men had power over them... men who also agreed with the mandates of feminist thought in public if not in private, and when their misdeeds were made public they were quietly ignored for the sake of the movement.

Young men were robbed of the chance of ever becoming men and feminism was one of the prime vehicles through which it happened. And what was the end result? Trans males. Males who hate themselves as much as they hate the people that made them hate themselves. Has it never occurred to the feminists here that when these males stopped identifying as men that they became animals? That even the MGTOW crowd and the ultra manosphere were not nearly as half as pyschotically aggressive as many of these TIMs are? Something should have clicked then for the rad fems about what the ideal of manhood means, that for most men strength is measured in tandem with magnanimity and you can't have one without the other. But it hasn't clicked. They still act like it was by the will of men collectively, through invisible and intangible systems of omnipotent control, that pushed males into rejecting manhood and opened up the doors to the sanctuaries of womanhood. It was feminism, that created them, it was woman who brought them in, it was women who bullied and jostled for virtue points in supporting for them and it was women who threw the rad fems out. But on GC you get the impression that it's all the fault of men and the patriarchy. But men had nothing to do with this. Feminism made these TIMs and women brought them in. So seeing just a molecule of accountability would be nice, would give me confidence that the gender critical movement works towards reason and sense and not just another narrative.

The last thing that I think GC and the rad fems need to recognise is that the only men who have stood up for not only the gender critical perspective but also the rights of the rad fems too, even whilst aware of the hatred rad fems can have for them, has been men who don't typically identify as feminists. Who have often criticised it. Who have eschewed a masculine code of conduct. It's ironic that not long ago rad fems despised people like Joe Rogan, Steven Crowder, Sargon of Akkad, yet these are the men who will stand up and support them. So maybe it's time to rethink some of their prejudices against men and masculinity.

I hope this didn't come across as too much of a rant, I said a lot more then I expected to, and I hope I didn't seem like I was making pejorative and generalised statements about women. That was not my intent. I wish only that that movements, all movements, take the time to reflect on themselves and don't get caught up in prejudice and delusion.