Trans violence is violence - Middle school trans-identified male beats up girl (Video)

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-29T19:20:30+00:00

Joke's on you, the kid is likely into that shit!

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-29T18:44:29+00:00

Honestly, the reason already is convincing: If you're a biological man, the natural testosterone count, even on hormone therapy for years right down to "your Munchausen Mommy started you on puberty blockers as an infant", will still be the same as a woman who is on steroids. And if you're a trans woman on hormone therapy, then you're admitting to taking drugs that are recognized as steroids.

PED usage/steroid usage is banned by every sport, and any record set when the athlete was under the influence of steroids is null and void. Ergo, you can easily pull the records off the list.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-28T16:48:53+00:00

Well, there's your problem. You seem to ignore that "a person threatening suicide to get their way is likely retarded", and "a person willing to play along for the retarded person's threat is also likely retarded."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-27T22:41:38+00:00

But you can play the, "that sounds very serious, I'm calling the police because you are a danger to yourself" response and there's very little they can do about that. Shuts it straight down and keeps them from pulling it again if they aren't legit suicidal and insane, which of course validates the move.

But, you forget. If you try to play the "I'm calling the police because you are a danger to yourself", then you end up getting hit with BOTH problems by the emotional terrorists. They can go to the idiots who'll fall for it and play "waaaah This person's so mean to me, they called the police on me! They tried to have me killed just so they wouldn't do [insert thing they demanded]!", AND they'll go to you and possibly even the cops and say "the cops can't watch me 24/7 forever, all they can legally do is hold me for 72 hours and then they have to release me no matter how much of a danger to myself I am, and then in 72 hours I'll self-delete and I'll blame you personally for it to guarantee you go to hell for killing me...that is, if I don't choose to refuse food and water and starve myself to death in front of them and kill myself that way. Either way, you just guaranteed I do it so you just murdered me."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-27T02:05:20+00:00

Honestly yes, because if they're playing that card early enough, and they're admittedly an incel, the chance they even go further than "get me a girlfriend or I self-delete" to "get me a girlfriend or I take other people with me when I self-delete" is on the table as well.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-26T18:48:35+00:00

...complete amateur. Don't they know the method is to "hint it" to make people feel sad, but have plausible deniability so you aren't insane? Now people can write it off as a crazy person and not part of the movement!

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-26T15:43:56+00:00

Well, also the fact that "part of getting what you want means positioning yourself as the victim at all times. No matter how much you get or how much the tables have turned, you are ALWAYS the downtrodden victim who needs justice."

Make no mistake, they could change things to the point their 'majority' is being put in concentration camps, and they'll just say "Look how much privilege these people have in society. THEY get a nice quick death in the concentration camps while WE have to live through the climate change they created!"

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-26T15:41:59+00:00

It seems to be a feature of all the critical social justice movements, demand change but when some effort is made, declare it either not enough or demand more.

Well, of course it is: People are so busy trying to change for the benefit of being a good person they don't realize there's a lot of people who see "I'm willing to change for you to get better treatment" as "Now I know you'll change for me so I'm going to demand everything from you because you'll cave if I threaten to call you a bigot otherwise."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-26T00:08:48+00:00

Well, I thought they were saying the real issue is "but I WANT THEIR MAN!!!! I want them and I wanna famous sex symbol partner so I DESERVE Them and if she got them she must have CHEATED somehow and that means the man's a pedophile! Ruin his image so she'll leave him and I can have him!".

That explains how it's "any age gap less than "they were born same year, month, day, hour, minute, second. Literally their moms held hands and synchronized the births in the delivery room with synchronized nurses and doctors to make sure they're born at the exact same time and the birth certificate is signed the exact same time. And if they are, they're twin-coded so that makes it incest" is the way now.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-25T23:56:24+00:00

Reality TV show nothing, there's the non-zero chance they each fix each other's problems and make each other happy, either from "you're finally getting regular sex/a relationship" or "you're both miserable, but you're so broken 'miserable together' is your new definition of happiness."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-24T19:57:14+00:00

Even assuming this had a point...do people really assume the government option is going to be the top of the line girlfriend for the incels like they claim they deserve? It's not going to be some 14 year old virginal sex goddess the whole world wants, but who only has eyes for them. More likely it's going to be the bitchy Karen who feels entitled to a BTS member falling in love with them and only them and giving them a life of luxury who brings absolutely nothing to the table to the point they're made to be a public option...aka, the femcel equivalent to these assholes.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-24T19:52:31+00:00

Likely, or possibly from one of the outright ones who believe in transgenderism as religion and who ultimately believe everyone is, they just don't know it yet saying any question on a role is proof.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-24T03:12:22+00:00

That's just unfair.

Much more likely that it's not even internalized sexism and an overarching "I wanna be SPECIAL!" attitude that ties everything together.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-23T16:23:59+00:00

...still using the "uh, acktually they're over a thousand years old so it's okay they're a loli" argument even after it's been seen as neckbeard bullshit #1?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-23T01:19:41+00:00

But then, you have to take the bet on what the Tumblrina would hate more: Having to work and get educated, or having to spend the rest of their life doing exactly what Mommy and Daddy tell them to do, forever, with no hope of ever getting out from under their thumb.

What do they hate more, working, going to school, and growing up, or doing what their parents tell them to do?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-23T01:17:32+00:00

Someone hasn't been anywhere near where Antifa gathered...

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-22T22:25:59+00:00

Honestly, I think those weren't connected, the self-ID stuff wasn't connected to transphobes or social misfits choosing it for power. Rather, the self-ID stuff allowed them to do it because it changed "you have this crippling mental problem and you need help for this, hopefully something works out for you" to "all you have to do is say you're trans, even once, even if you're lying through your teeth or joking when you say it, and you're in the club and protected forevermore [even if you only say you're a woman once and a man for the rest of your life, you still count as non-binary by their rules]. This allowed the bad-faith actors to jump into the group, which allowed things to get even worse.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-22T16:20:58+00:00

Well, The Daily Show has always been the worst thing for political humor in history. Before TDS, political humor was about "that's funny, and it's true" to mock problems with the political issues, but TDS turned the demand for laughs to the demand for cheers, making political humor go from "that's funny AND it speaks truth to power!" to "YAAAY! You're saying things I BELIEVE!"

If anything led to the climate for things like this to occur, it was Jon Stewart, so Noah worked perfectly there.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-22T16:16:18+00:00

I’d like to see the reasoning behind that bold claim, what services, products, sacrifices are they making that are so important to the democratic life of the US?

They're the groups who will whine the most on social media if you don't clap and tell them how special they are at random intervals, and if they whine the media will pick it up, the rest of the Democrats will think you're evil, and if they think you're evil you won't have a prayer at getting out of the primaries next time you're elected.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-22T16:13:20+00:00

Well, you don't know if they've been neutered yet, you want to have some women running wild there? These guys smell the woman's heat and you'll have a huge riot as everyone fights each other to get the chance to mate, and no one wants to clean up all of that mess...

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-22T16:11:38+00:00

I bet the original idea was thought up by a troll who thought it was hilarious, which it is of course, but there are way too many idiots with no sense of irony or reality who take it seriously, which frankly makes it all the more funny.

You just described every single problem with modern society in a nutshell.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-22T16:10:46+00:00

No, no. Sniffing out drugs is too valuable.

We need to make it clear "Oh, you want the rights of a dog? Okay, then. You're now officially owned by your masters. Sorry, teenage Tumblrina, you are officially kicked out of school or work and are officially owned forever by your mean and heartless parents who make you DO CHORES and not spend all your time on Tumblr, and you have to live with them forever and ever, never able to leave your house- and when your parents die, we can put you in a pound, to either be owned by a creepy loser who's willing to own you forever under the same circumstances, and if no loser is willing to in seven days, we can euthanize you and you have no right to demand otherwise."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-22T16:02:04+00:00

2014 the radicals had it all: legally anything they did wasn’t rape but they could claim to have been , they could claim diminished capacity because they had boobs, and they had access to shelters full of vulnerable women fleeing men with stories that soaked their panties real good: of course the Yanivs of the world wanted all that

Even then, the amount of Yanivs is probably outweighed for 2014 by the overarching: "What began with an apple must end with a horse. What began with demonizing gamers must end by the gamer getting pissed and enabling the God Mode cheat", with pissed off loser men who were sick and tired of being society's whipping boy saying "you can't beat 'em, join 'em" and noticing now that they instantly made the top of the totem pole, now society would bend over backwards to give them everything their heart desired: Fame, power, fixing all their problems, even sex.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-22T15:56:51+00:00

Not only that, but if people here really do hate trans people and are just here to hate on them, all they need to remember is: Supporting people going against the line of "all men are literally, inherently evil and nothing will ever change it" is the only way to stop troonery from happening, because the vast majority of troons are bitter incels who went "so that's it? My problems don't matter and I deserve all of it and more because I'm a man? Well, MAYBE I don't WANT TO be a man anymore! Now I outrank you on Oppression Olympics, line up to suck my girldick now..."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-21T18:49:24+00:00

So, you want the right to...looks ...be owned by another human being. Got it.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-21T04:42:32+00:00

You one of them froofy sweet boys there? There ain't no man in me, I'm all man...

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-20T20:45:42+00:00

I think kids today get the feeling like they are a horrible person if they do anything against that person. It's sort of like how kids born in the 90s feel about people with physical disabilities.

Does the bullying still happen? Sure.

Fair points, but this one explains why a huge amount of schoolwide bullying can happen: By and large schoolwide bullying happens less for a whole group of evil people and more "one incredible piece of shit who's popular enough or badass enough to take power in the schoolyard or lunchroom starts the bullying, and the rest of the school is 'either we bully this person too or we're next' and fall in line through fear, which causes this to happen.

Your example does show the other, unmentioned, third option: "Most kids in school nowadays don't give a shit about homecoming king/queen or prom king/queen, and the girls who do care about the result tend to be the beauty pageant girls who are kind of insufferable pre-Karens (and often have an outright Karen as a mom who's usually pulling the strings), to the point you just want to vote for someone goofy to win the crown just to take them down a peg."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-20T17:13:43+00:00

...so, this person woke up and decided to destroy all of trans rights worse than even DeSantis's wet dreams see him do, just so they could feel special? Don't they realize once you claim some trans people are their birth gender, the whole house of cards falls apart because "well, if you say THEY are lying, why should I believe YOU?"

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-20T17:10:44+00:00

I am the Eggman, you are the Eggmen, I am the Walrus, koo koo ka joob.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-20T17:09:29+00:00

Snarts are a narcissistic and arrogant lot. Dark triad personalities are known to be comorbidities with transgenderism in many cases, and so...no. No they wouldn't be embarrassed. They'd take the award and truly believe they earned it even if people are openly laughing at them on stage.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-20T17:06:34+00:00

I agree the slightly conservative kid who looks like Kyle Rittenhouse is likely the one bullied, but the troon freak is also likely to be a target for other things independent of their identity. If it's not their identity, it's their demanding special treatment at every single turn. If not that, it's the time the troon tried forcing the QB to leave the cheerleader for them and tried to rally the school to force him to and say 'real men suck girldick', and so on, and so forth.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-20T01:16:39+00:00

Exactly. Can't British hoteps just go to "...well, you stole the land from the fairies!" like Tumblrinas who want to claim the British isles were stolen land even though land declarations is a US thing, and not even true in some parts of it?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-20T01:10:10+00:00

Even with Gen-Z being about virtue signalling/posturing and crybullies taking hold, there's still some semblance of the pecking order in schools and people who are absolutely the most annoying bastard possible will get bullied.

Hell, as said in a different post, pranks like this claim are perfect in the Gen-Z era of "bully the outcast loser...but don't do anything that will make the kid shoot up the school over it" because it has plausible deniability.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-19T14:19:14+00:00

Exactly. And bullies have to be smarter with their cruel pranks. That's why this one works so well; you can be cruel to the social misfit, but there's enough plausible deniability there that you can claim "no, no, it was really because of how much we like you" so the misfit will never shoot up the school in revenge!

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-19T04:07:13+00:00

Well, troons are trying every other sport with women, why not watersports as well?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-19T04:05:13+00:00

That is just completely unfair!

There's no "probably" about it, this person DEFINITELY daydreams about getting gangraped in a bathroom.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-19T03:56:23+00:00

In addition to what u/LordoftheFlies said, it's not like Homecoming Queen is exactly an honored tradition for these popularity contests, and teens can do what teens do in all forms to dictate who wins.

I guess I'm saying...I want to see proof these kids didn't vote for the kid as an elaborate form of bullying them.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-19T03:53:41+00:00

Even beyond that, it also needs to be said if it's the students voting, the odds "the teachers demanded the kids vote for this stunning and brave trans kween as Homecoming Queen" are equal to or even worse than the odds "the students are bullying the kid and they voted for the person as a cruel prank to play on them." So, there is that.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-18T03:27:41+00:00

Close, it was when people were saying "if the woman is completely sXe and enthusiastically consented throughout it, but when they were a child they were in a Catholic family who's devout grandparents forced her to take First Communion and she did to humor them before never going to church again, the one sip of communion wine they drank 10-15 years before means it was automatically rape whenever they have sex", as well as "if a woman is happily having enthusiastic consent throughout, but the next morning that ONE frenemy in her friends' group mocks her for being a slut because she secretly wanted the guy and she's jealous her friend hooked up with her, and the woman wants to get queen bee status in her friendgroup again, she can say it's rape."

Sadly, even with the sanity, some people in the comment were STILL saying this.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-18T03:18:55+00:00

Good point, I agree with all of that part. The goal would not to be to actually hurt real people who need it, but to hopefully separate the real people who have this problem from these bastards using it as their high school clique and leave them with nowhere to run or hide until they find their next group to claim sanctuary in for their excuse to be special. The things you mention are what I hate about those bastards and want to see them get what they deserve.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-18T00:14:54+00:00

On the plus side, we're about a second from them saying 'the very act of being trans is transphobic because it's saying they aren't a natural, biological person of the group they claim to be and there's some difference between them and other members.'

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-18T00:13:41+00:00

Even that won't stop them, given how many TRAs are also avowed communists.

If malpractice suits happen, the communist side of them will say "ha ha money vacuum go brrrr". and they'll even flat out say "hold the transition against your doctor forever and if you want to afford something slightly expensive like a PS5 or a really nice anime figurine, just tell your doctor you'll sue for malpractice if he doesn't buy it for you and use the "losing $500-1k is cheaper than $100k and you lose your license" to turn the doctor into your own personal sugar daddy!"

The only thing that will stop the train and cause this is if courts start to find the snarts who openly groom kids personally responsible if they detrans and they go after those people- even a "yes, the average snart doing this won't have much money" is cancelled out by the "one snart who's forced to lose every penny they will ever earn or ever hope to earn down to 'they find a penny on the ground they are required to send it to this person' will stop them dead."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-17T17:41:54+00:00

Exactly. That's why, in order to do this, I spent a long period systematically brainwashing the woman in my life into believing they're a trans man. Not only did I do my part to abolish femoids and add another man to the picture, but now my gay boyfriend can get pregnant and add another dude- or a poor, poor trans baby into the mix, as God intended when he tried to make Adam and Steve, but didn't have the clay to give Steve a dick like Jesus when he accidentally made his pec game too round.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-16T02:41:54+00:00

The real answer is "slurs are a bad insult" because it is stupid to insult people based on things they have no control over, like their race, it's much more effective to insult them based on things they do have control over, like their fashion sense, or weight.

Exactly, and even then it goes past effective to "any slur or derogatory term is a bad insult" because it's ultimately too easy. If you can get your insult to be original enough, then it will really be good- and if you're so good at insulting even the person being insulted has no choice but to laugh, even better.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-16T01:34:12+00:00

Didn't the Larry Craig scandal teach her anything? You tap your foot three times and push your leg to the side of the stall for the other person as the universal "I want cock" sign.

A real man will learn that much; I thought queer theorists taught children that in kindergarten now. What DO they teach these kids in sex ed, anyway?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-16T01:31:32+00:00

I can imagine a MtF making this exact same video except saying "the woman's bathroom is so affirming because it's pink and perfumed."

I thought the MtF use the "any janitor will tell you the women's room is universally nastier than the men's room" to be fine- it has women going to the bathroom so they're part of the sisterhood, and they have treasure boxes full of used tampons/pads that give them a raging gender euphoria all over the place! 7/10, would be 10/10 if more of the women were willing to have gender affirming lesbian sex with her right there in the bathroom.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-16T01:28:27+00:00

Oh yeah? Well, I'd save a feral cat with rabies who's not going to survive the night anyway before I'd save my own child, even if I was told it's a guarantee that child would grow up to cure cancer and fix climate change singlehandedly! I outrank you in CF behavior, so you clearly are a breeder and no good! /notenoughlettersinstosayhowsarcasticthisis

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-16T01:24:57+00:00

Only went home early? You should have tried for the 'make them 41%', you get credit for the assist that way.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-16T01:23:54+00:00

Oh, it was worse, it was a cis person who didn't even identify as trans who was offended for imaginary trans people. That pushes it to the more exhausting "Look how much of an ally I am; someone tell me I'm one of the good ones now!" types.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-16T01:21:33+00:00

Well, there was that AI that said even if saying a racial slur is the password to deactivate a nuclear bomb that is about to explode and blow up an entire city, instantly starting World War III and ending all of humanity, and you're somehow close to the bomb in a place where literally no one is around to hear you say the slur or possibly be offended by it, it's still a worse crime to say the slur then to let the bomb go off...so it's likely yes, to these people.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-15T14:26:59+00:00

Well, there's your problem. You don't realize in this case, what the asker WANTS is a reason to whine and complain and to have a villain they can point to saying they oppressed them so the asker looks like a tragic widdle trooper who's fighting all this bigotry and hatred, so they get more points in that circle.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-15T00:53:37+00:00

I mean, the hormone shot thing might help, since it's clear the "father" will forcibly transition their kid even if the kid fights it at every turn up to and including holding them down and putting the shots into them- so they'll be a leg up on the other Munchausen Mummies.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-13T17:36:38+00:00

Not only that, but: The rise of technology in cars has led to keys being made with a plastic base with the key portion jutting out. Anyone who's even gotten tricked into a sales pitch from Cutco, let alone someone who's a geek for making knives, would tell you if you ever got into a fight with a fistful of keys, your car key will snap in two before it even scratches the attacker a bit.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-13T17:25:25+00:00

Honestly, it could just as likely be the natural crossing point of queer theory and the highschoolization of society, both meeting at the "the only people it's okay to shame about sex are the ugly losers who can't get any". After all, someone having HIV+ or MonkeyPox doesn't have some vicious fatal disease, it's proof they're a sexual dynamo who's so desired they fuck before and probably will fuck you so good it's worth dying over!

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-13T17:12:25+00:00

Of course, once that happens, Jazz's mother gets her real goal: She can cry and talk about how she's the victim because her poor, poor trans baby killed themselves and focus on how she'll spend the rest of her life fulfilling Jazz's legacy and SHE gets to be the victim and be important now!

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-13T17:10:28+00:00

Yeah- this even bypasses the "death penalty for the mother" and goes to "if Jazz were to murder his mother, any person with a soul should vote to acquit."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-13T13:53:31+00:00

Most of the time it's people who have drank the "cultural appropriation" Kool aid and have gone straight to behaving exactly the same way a xenophobe behaves, white people cannot corrupt themselves with the cultures of lesser life forms, except uno-reverse white colonials are wrong to steal the culture of other countries, as if culture is something that can be stolen.

Even then, their own argument breaks itself for logic:

To the cultural appropriation Wokester, white people cannot appreciate anything from another culture as cultural appropriation is racist.

To the same people, white people have no culture and the only white culture is racism.

Therefore, by their own logic, it is white people's moral imperative to immerse themselves in other cultures, since to do so is to be racist and thus engage in white culture.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-13T13:48:35+00:00

But the fact that it's a Chinese game is why u/ClassroomPast6178 is more likely to be right here. Part and parcel of the "butthurt weeb acting like most honorable cultural guardian" is a firm belief all Asians are Japanese.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-10T23:20:46+00:00

Completely unfair. It's not the completely unattractive white women who end up saying they're queer- they're the ones who actually have to come through and actually be willing to make out with each other to get men interested in them and would have a case to claim it, or can just be a lesbian for themselves.

The real money for the queer moment is in the moderately attractive white woman- not a guaranteed smoke show, but about a 6, 6.5 on a good day white woman. The type of white woman that is just pretty enough that a loser man would fall hard for if she even shared a remote interest in something he liked, but has next to no chance of hooking up with the top of the heap men. Those are the ones who need queerness in order to turn the ugly losers off of them while not actually changing anything so that if a man who is a remote catch wants them, they can say "no, I'm totally interested."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-10T22:24:30+00:00

Exactly. I've said it before and will say it again. The right response is "...and? Think of it logically.

There's two options to your claim: you do kill yourself, or you don't kill yourself.

If you kill yourself over me not doing what you want, you'll be dead. Your opinion is no longer a going concern. I can do what I want and don't have to listen to you anymore.

If you do not kill yourself over it, you just played your card forever. You proved, once and for all, that you're all talk. I no longer have to worry about what you want because you won't do shit when the chips fall. I can do what I want and don't have to listen to you anymore.

Either way, you don't get your way from me."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-10T02:54:52+00:00

Once you start encouraging suicide you've basically lost the plot and lost any hope of gaining public support.

I want to believe they're dumb enough to realize it's "if you encourage suicide then you'll lose any power your 'do what I say forever or I'll kill myself" claims have, because the only other option is 'they've already chosen violence in their hearts and want people to turn on them so they can attack anyone they don't like or like too much."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-09T19:44:50+00:00

Definitely, since most of the "queer" movement could seem to boil down to "the woman wants to shut down an unwanted admirer and knows 'queer' sounds enough like being gay that nerdy Melvin will think it's the same thing and back off, but hunky Chad will know it's all word salad and she's DTF."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-09T19:41:27+00:00

and "queer" has been diluted so much that any time you're actively not feeling like an advertising cliche is enough to be nonbinaryTM:

That's just unfair.

You forget that if someone feels like an advertising cliche literally every second of every day, then they're obviously transgender and hiding deep in the closet. It's part of the religious aspect of the trans cult: A firm belief everyone is trans, they just don't know it yet!

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-09T19:33:28+00:00

Will it count as 41 when we have people told "you never got the HPV vaccine" "I don't need it as a man" "You have cervical cancer" "TESTICULAR cancer, treat it as such" in the future?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-07T15:50:40+00:00

I knew you couldn't trust them, didn't it mean they were anti-the American flag?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-07T15:40:01+00:00

Because if the author looks like the reader, wants to have sex with things the reader wants to have sex with, or uses the same gender as the reader- then the READER might be able to write a book too! (They won't, but they could imagine they CAN!)

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-07T03:17:07+00:00

When everything you think of is "will someone PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE think of the rapist/murderer/pedophiles!", this bypasses "you're wrong" and goes to "...do you have something you want to tell the class?"

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-07T03:15:06+00:00

Incomparable, hun. A 17 year old pedophile, only minor by law, knows the difference between wrong and right compared to a 14/15 year old pedophile. Both of them, unless committing the crime, haven't committed a crime not could be arrested for anything. Unless you support imprisonment for thoughtcrime.

But the 17 year old is technically a minor by the laws. They can't vote, can't drink, can't drive on their own, they're a helpless child. By saying there's a difference, by your "any child who commits a crime should get the Congressional Medal of Honor and the BIGGEST hug possible!" claims, you're just as evil as you claim I am by saying the 17 year, 364 day old kid who shoots up his school shouldn't get one day in jail. You might even be worse than me, at least I ADMIT IT.

Acknowledging the ages doesn't equal letting them off "Scott free" lol. By that logic, the laws we use now is letting minors off "free."

If you're acknowledging the ages, then you have to admit that there's some crimes a minor can do which require imprisonment for longer than just "they turned 18, all is forgiven!" Kids can and do murder- shit, a kid who was a family friend turned out to be one of the most notorious serial killers in my state's history, so I know full well kids can commit atrocities that can never be forgiven.

Again, obsession ain't looking good. There's a reason why we have the laws today regarding minors, and how to treat them compared to adults. Good thing you're not in charge of it. Wanting to kill minors ain't a healthy mindset, nor would be looked at with approval.

Just because someone's a kid doesn't mean they're ready for society just because of an arbitrary day on the calendar. And for some crimes, they NEVER will be. To not accept that makes you a monster. I don't care what else you do in life, you're a monster. You could run an orphanage for bunnies and you're just making the bunnies monsters.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-06T04:22:14+00:00

While you're right, the problem is that the crazies use the sane people as their motte and bailey move and say if you disagree with the crazy shit, then it's clear you don't actually want the sane shit. And we're at a point where the more it's done, the crazier the people get who say this and get away with it.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-05T00:48:17+00:00

...oh you sweet summer child, I thought everyone knows Rule 34 is the only rule on the Internet that never fails. They already exist.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-04T17:51:19+00:00

It makes some sense: Sonic the Hedgehog is the perfect Venn diagram between "the first game many kids played (and for autists, the first thing they could share an interest with kids so they'll latch on to it to try and keep friends)" and "the gateway drug to furries".

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-03T14:24:39+00:00

Wow, someone agrees with you and you jump on me and not the people disagreeing with you. Congratulations for proving me right.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-02T23:37:08+00:00

Maybe I'm just more positive, I'm getting the weird mental image of a meet-and-greet of Mulvaney going down the line and propositioning each and every one of the idiots as they hem and haw and stammer and say "uh, maybe one day, and I'm not saying I'm not attracted to you or willing, but there's a lot of classwork, and I have an early day tomorrow, and I kind of have a headache, and it's just not a good night to do things...but maybe next time you come here..."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-09-02T23:34:59+00:00

That's unrealistic, since privilege does exist and people are aware that life sucks for people in a minority group more than it does for someone in a majority group.

This ties to the answer there: it's mostly the rich, white, pretty, well-educated, privileged, sociopathic women trying to undercut even their rich, sociopathic husbands, because they're fully aware of privilege theory and they know damn well if they can throw men under the bus and make the patriarchy the scapegoat in favor of a matriarchy, then all of their other privileges they have will make THEM the new ruling class in the world and they'll get all of the power.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-31T18:23:10+00:00

Not exactly; the rules have always been crystal clear for fraternities and sororities. The law dictates that all that matters is they can prove they are not kicking them out because of discrimination. A sorority can kick someone out for any other reason: Grades, being too much of a sloppy mess, even "you're not pretty enough to hang out with us", but the second there's a hint they did it because of discrimination, the hammer is dropped.

Therefore, the answer is "if this sorority can find a different, less crazy trans woman and let HER into the sorority- then they have proof they are willing to let trans women into the sorority, and thus it's not discrimination against the troon they're trying to kick out because they're trans. And if the troon cries a unique xenogender as proof they're the only person who can possibly be that gender to stay in? Well, they're no longer a woman so it's legal to kick them out; sorry bunself, but this is a sorority for humans, not bunnies."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-31T16:53:22+00:00

Even if those things happen, there's still the benefits. Just the sane people using the trans 'give me what I want or I'll hurt myself and it'll be all your fault!' method would likely peak most normal people, the more important thing is if the people against trans people also threaten suicide, then you take away the mentally unstable people's power when they do it. If both sides are threatening suicide if they don't get their way, then neither side is doing it and eventually people will have to choose one or the other.

(This is also doubled since the trans women are so mentally unstable there's a good chance doing this will make them escalate it to not just sudoku, but them specifically threatening to do it by committing a mass shooting and taking more people with them- and if that happens you'll see people REALLY start to turn on them.)

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-31T15:11:43+00:00

Not only that, but it's kinder to all the inmates. If the guy did this, since entering prison he's probably had more dudes inside him than the Statue of Liberty anyway, so just castrate/transition him so at least the dudes can be having straight sex when they viciously sodomize the bastard.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-31T15:08:28+00:00

Oh, you sweet summer child. We're way past that working to deal with it.

We're at a point where the only thing left to do to fight instances like this is stooping to THEIR level. Have the sisters of the sorority make a public conference saying "the rest of the sorority except for the trans member we're trying to kick out have agreed to make a suicide pact together over this- if you don't let us kick this person out of the sorority we will all kill ourselves!"

Then, since 99% of the "let trans people do whatever they want" movement is based on people thinking "if you don't let them do whatever they want, they may kill themselves!", you officially put the college into the trolley problem: If they don't let the trans person get their way, one student may sudoku, but if they do let them get their way, [n] other students will do it instead. You either have to fulfill the trolley problem and say "fine, kick the student out so you don't hurt yourself" to minimize the deaths, or you force the college to come right out and say "this one trans person's life means more than all of these cis women's lives combined."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-31T15:01:56+00:00

Honestly, even that won't work because the response from the school and sorority would likely be "okay, quit. Good, we got rid of a bunch of transphobes" and they'd be fine with it.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-31T14:53:29+00:00

Yeah, I can see that, especially since most of the climate change protests are done in the "annoy the average person and shame them into walking, using nothing with plastic, and even if you're dying an a pill will save your life, refuse it to not use the petroleum to crush it", and completely ignore the "about 7 companies release 71% of all greenhouse gases" thing.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-30T22:44:41+00:00

I can see why they do it. How can the school of Christian Laettner not cry together when trans women are being silenced like this?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-30T22:41:35+00:00

Apologizing and backtracking just makes you look weak and spineless and makes your original point lose its message

Not only that, but we have enough proof now that the people who you're apologizing to won't accept it. They'll just say "oh, you apologized? Fine. I accept it, for now. But for the rest of existence, whenever I want a little more clout or that little rush of dopamine you can only get by knowing you're better than somebody, I'm going to dig up this comment and make you go through the whole motions again and say "I'm sorry! I'm sorry and I'm a terrible person and let it be known from here on out forevermore that YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME!"...and we'll keep doing it, forever, until your death. And when you die, I'm bringing it up again so we can all piss on your grave."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-30T22:36:09+00:00

A lot of those women saying the parents should not be informed are operating under that hyperbolic suicide narrative and think the parents are literally trying to kill the poor trans kids by disagreeing with the dogma.

The worst part is, even THAT narrative would dictate the "tell the parents" thing: If you have really groomed a kid into thinking they're trans, the last step would be "let the parents know so they can transition" fact, since the final aspect is "let them know, let the doctors/teachers/groomers play the "trans son or dead daughter" thing, and let the fact that every parent's worst fear in life is having to bury their baby will make the parent cave.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-30T22:32:44+00:00

Unfair- if they're now allowed into some social circles with woke chicks rather than being denied female contact of any kind, it's entirely possible they were able to play the "if you don't sleep with me then you're a transphobe!" to guilt-trip at least one of those woke chicks into halfheartedly starfishing for him for ten seconds while she thought of all the woke points she'd get for saying she slept with a trans woman.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-30T22:26:46+00:00

No, no. The logic is there. You have to acclimate the kids to it. Let them look at genitalia of various ages. Really be desensitized to looking at them. And then maybe touch it. Feel what they feel like...ah yeah, that's the stuff. Now give it a taste. Just a lick, see what they taste like...uh, yeah, no, don't use your teeth you little bitch or I'll kill your dog in front of you...yeah, you like that you little whore, suck it you little dicklicker, suck the girldick or your family dies, do it! DO IT!...

...oh, sorry, I guess the quiet part was said out loud again.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-30T22:24:08+00:00

The throwing shit at paintings is bad, but in defense, the "...wait, a country that's been on fire most of this year is starting to take strikes against climate change?" aspect that is "yeah, it makes sense."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-29T14:01:29+00:00

Ah. The original translations I had heard of this verse said that they translated one of the instance of "man" in the text where it was supposed to be "boy" in that instance (and thus the line was forbidding men having sex with young boys- which in Greco-Roman times was common enough they would likely need a rule saying "dude! NO!")

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-29T13:58:41+00:00

This "the grass isn't actually greener on the other side" nature likely explains all trans people, since the same refrain explains why so many social misfit men end up becoming trans women...and why the trans women idealize becoming a vapid fuckdoll (where the trans men's problem is "men get all the power and get to live their own lives normally", the trans women's problem is "women can get sex whenever they want it and I want sex too!")

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-29T13:54:14+00:00

...you're saying the truth to them. You're supposed to say being a man is cars, sports, outdoors stuff, drinking beer, scratching your crotch, and other things said in commercials. Don't you know what we teach gender roles to the poor, poor trans babies?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-29T04:03:40+00:00

Of course, what do you think the poop fetishists are, PERVERTS?

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-29T04:01:15+00:00

Well, there's your problem: You seem to think they WANT people to be won to their perspective.

The militant snarts doing this secretly DON'T want people to be won to their perspective.

Best case, Their entire personality hinges on being a victim and if people are won to their side then they don't get to be a victim anymore.

Most likely case, they want to keep people hating them until they can jockey into a position of leadership so THEY get to be the civil rights leader who brings them to the promised land they'll make statues of and name high schools after in the future.

Worst case, they've already chosen violence in their hearts, they want war with anyone who isn't exactly like them and honestly is not them, personally, but they're so callow and hapless they're just waiting for the people to start the war first so they'll be justified to start attacking people.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-29T03:54:20+00:00

Yeah, IIRC the original quote was saying "don't commit pederasty", which is something most people would be aware is a sin that is out of the picture.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-28T14:28:51+00:00

There's one big problem with that: That line was in Leviticus, an Old Testament book.

The New Testament not only said that "all the rules in the Old Testament can be thrown out in Christianity", but the very core tenet of Christianity is "Jesus's death wiped away all sins from mankind, forever." It's blatant, etched in stone, Hitler could recant on his deathbed once, even if he didn't totally mean it, and be welcomed into heaven, level of "no sin can be left unforgiven."

To say "and yet being LGBT+ is the one sin that is truly unforgivable in every way, shape, or form, being gay is a one-way, go directly to Hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200, Putin will be welcomed into heaven while a boy who once got molested by their priest will burn in hell for having once had sex with a man" is to say there's a sin in the world which Jesus's death on the cross did not pay for, which in the process destroys all of Christianity far more than the culture war does.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-28T05:16:21+00:00

But "the body belongs to the person's heirs" is a wholly different story from who consents, and it turns it, at worst, from getting consent from the corpse to "asking the heir if you can borrow something from them."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-28T05:12:10+00:00

Even that won't be legalized, not even just because to the people claiming it, "Nazi" means "anyone who disagrees with me or even agrees with me, but won't bow down to me and worship me as their god". but because of the "anything you say it's okay for you to do to people who you don't like who are not in power, you say it's okay for them to do to you when they inevitably take power."

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-28T05:09:44+00:00

And even in the time when the court was literally claiming slaves were property, they didn't say it was legal for a non-slave to murder a slave, so even that doesn't work.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-28T05:07:30+00:00

And even the non-aristocrats would do the same thing. Maybe your benefit is marrying someone of higher standing to move your house up in society, maybe your benefit is "we have a little land, they have a little land next door, if you two marry the merged family has both pieces of land", maybe it's down to "you're a big strong man. She's a big strong woman. By order of the lord of this area, you two will marry and have big strong babies to be the next generation to till the fields", but "marry for benefit happened with everyone except people who had such a low station that literally no one could possibly care if either of you were bumping uglies with the other person.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-28T02:51:31+00:00

Of course, but that ties to my point for why I'd say necrophilia being legalized is not a problem. As I said, A corpse's consent is unnecessary because, regardless of your belief in a soul or in life after death, both believers and non-believers' logic comes to the same conclusion that upon death, the corpse becomes an inanimate object. To a believer, a body is a container for the soul, so upon death, the corpse is an empty container (and thus, asking for consent is like asking for consent before you put your dick into an empty Pringles can you turned into a fleshlight), and to a non-believer, there's nothing upon the death of a person, so upon death, the corpse is a mere object (and thus, asking for consent from a corpse is like asking for consent from your dildo.) As such, asking for a corpse's consent is completely unnecessary as it's fundamentally no different than fucking a sex toy, and so necrophilia becomes "it's creepy, but shouldn't exactly be illegal."

With that in mind, this is the legal complication mentioned: The living body can choose not to consent, but the corpse itself is just an object and thus its consent isn't particularly necessary.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-28T02:45:15+00:00

I'm pretty sure that actively murdering another person is never going to be legal, no matter what other crimes become legal.

LyingSpirit472 · 2023-08-28T02:43:16+00:00

ok devil worshipper.

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