Recruiter can’t fill positions because of DEI

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[–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

The amount of sanity in those comments is quite refreshing.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's because they're actually in the trenches, so to speak, and see what happens when employers hire for anything other than qualifications. When you're stuck picking up the slack (and not even for extra pay, most likely) for a diversity hire who can't--or worse, won't because they think they're untouchable--do what their job requires, DEI policies quickly lose their luster.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

But pay attention to how they phrase it.

[–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Baby steps, fren.

[–]superbug 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Very telling to see this conversation happening on Reddit. Guess this is one of the subs the troons haven't infiltrated. Yet.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone loves to claim they are progressive and shit on people criticizing the progressive policies up until said policies cause them problems in some way the they see no irony in complaining about them.

But it's mostly a problem where I think people can't divorce the ideas of policy criticism cs criticism of the idea itself. Like take disability access and the various equality laws that exist there. I doubt very many people will adopt a fuck the handicap policy because it is fairly reasonable to hold the opinion that public facing facilities should be built to be handicapped accessible, but people love to assume the people who are criticizing the policies that mandate the handicap accessibility do have a fuck the handicapped mentality, up until they want to do something with their business like remodel the bathroom only to find that they can't do shit unless they install an elevator or something like that. Few people want to get down and dirty with the actual policies and the issues therein until it effects them.

Same with DEI. Most people are going to be agreeing on the basic concept of diversity in hiring and providing a non-hostile workplace for minorities, but if you criticize the policies they just play the intellectually bankrupt game of lumping you in with the triple K because God forbid you have the understanding that if you create a truck sized loophole people will take advantage of it.

[–]noshore4me 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It was a post from 5 months ago, who knows what's happened since

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Bardfinn will pelt them with cheese pizza

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It looks like all those DEI complaints are about race quotas so AlQueerida hasn't noticed yet. Watch one of them mention something 5% trans related and AHS will have a brigade post ready to go.

On a side note it seems like MtFs actually are quite good at the jobs they tend to gravitate towards. Like for some reason they stereotypically are good at programming related jobs.

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Honestly, I'd just use DEI rules against them to get the qualified candidates.

Make one of the questions to the white male candidate "when I respond to HR about them, I try to be blind for anything, and that includes referring to you as 'they' in the description- is that okay with you?"

Wait for the candidate to reasonably say 'yes' to that.

Then, realize because you got the white male candidate to agree to let you use 'they' as a pronoun, by the rules given of pronouns, the candidate officially counts as non-binary forever more, even if they never use anything but he/him pronouns after this at work (after all, if you were non-binary for even one second in your life, by the rules you're nb forever and ever.)

You can now go to DEI/HR and say "this candidate is non-binary and you're giving a job to a diverse candidate" to hire the people who can do the work.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I've noticed some people at my work have started using 'they' to refer to anyone - even those who use gendered pronouns in their signatures. Makes communication very confusing.

[–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

"My esteemed colleague"

https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1732916207253430621

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Haha 'he gives me the creeps and makes me feel dehumanized', says the skinwalker.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't see it as that confusing, since at least 'they' is a nice generic pronoun for anyone whether they are a man or a woman, and even if you get a sparklygenderwoo fucktard who demands you use their specific neopronoun, even then 'they' is so generic and used by so many enbys/trans people that no one could blame you for using it because any reasonable person would be able to see you at least tried to be respectful of them and it's not your fault, and in an HR position the battle becomes "this person truly made an honest attempt to be respectful' vs. 'this person is whining loudest'.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah that seems like it is the going to be the general trend. Most people who actually have work to do probably can't be asked to keep everyone's individual pronouns straight and you can't simply say fuck that noise I'm going to just use he and she since you'll be painted as a transgressor by the opportunists out for their pound of flesh.

So the solution? Just use they for everyone. I've used they as a non-specific pronoun for awhile now avoiding such clumsy constructions like "he/she" "he and she". I do miss the days when I could just right he and it was understood that it applied to everyone including women because nobody would even think that excluding women from whatever it was was even on the table. But roll in the feminist shit stirrers with apparently little real work to do getting their panties in a bunch because the HR memo says "If a night watchman gets sick he should call his boss at his earliest convenience" instead of "if a night watchperson of indeterminate gender gets sick or has his or her period he should call his or her supervisor at his or her earliest convenience"

Of course we can both play this game.

"this person truly made an honest attempt to be respectful' vs. 'this person is whining loudest'.

Excuse me but the gendered term "person" contains the oppressive male patriarchal term "son" please consider using instead.

People of xxxxxx

Person/Perdaughters

Perthems

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, ultimately that ties to the biggest issue in these cases, since this will still lose for the person who truly made an honest attempt to be respectful, because HR workers will always defer to what's best for themselves over what's right or best for the company...and ultimately, ruling in favor of the special sparklywoo person is best for the HR director:

Sparklypoo is more likely to file a lawsuit against the company if you don't give them their way than the person who made an honest attempt did.

WHEN (not if) they file a lawsuit, the people in power at the company will invariably just say "cut the freak a check and fire whoever made them momentarily sad before their whining affects our stock prices and we lose money", and honest attempt, their boss, and anyone else who stood in their way's head will roll.

The HR person will know this and give Sparklypoo their way simply because that way they "probably" (a forlorn hope, Sparklypoo will name anyone who doesn't bow down to them, and while their head is down there suck their ladydick as well) won't be mentioned in the lawsuit and they likely keep their job personally.

"But what if honest mistake files a counter-lawsuit if they get fired for this for making an honest attempt?" In that case, HR director is fucked no matter what they do...but they'll still defer to Sparklypoo in the tie (honest attempt will be seen as the villain who's genociding a poor, poor trans baby when they made their lawsuit and the court of woke opinion will eviscerate them. If the HR director is GOING to be fired no matter what they do, they defer to honest attempt, no HR division in the world will touch them, but if they defer to Sparklypoo, then some other HR division will see them as the tragic widdle trooper who only wanted to give equality to a poor, poor trans baby and the big mean Trump supporting mean cis mean white mean straight mean men decided to be mean and crucify the person for their fight for equality because they're mean, and every single HR division in the world will fight each other to hire this person with a big promotion and a big fat raise...hell, they might be able to quit the HR grind for good and get into the victimhood grift!

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

WHEN (not if) they file a lawsuit, the people in power at the company will invariably just say "cut the freak a check and fire whoever made them momentarily sad before their whining affects our stock prices and we lose money", and honest attempt, their boss, and anyone else who stood in their way's head will roll.

This is why we need to embrace cancel culture on the right. Destroy woke brands. Destroy DEI. Destroy jewish power. No more tolerance

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The comments about pilots (implying DEI hires crashing planes) and people dying in hospitals got me thinking…there’s no way that people high up in these organizations don’t see that all coming. Which means that someone did the math and figured that deaths caused by DEI hires is just going to be a cost of doing business.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sucks when your make believe company ethnocracy smacks headlong into the reality of customers' quality expectations that require a meritocracy to deliver on.