That’s just it kiddo - we want nothing to do with the LGBT community

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-28T14:58:37+00:00

I said it before Douglas Murray articulated it: There is no LGBTQIA+ community. We don't have enough in common.

And I'm so tired of the "They're coming for you, too!" scare tactic. Funny how they weren't coming for us until all the TQ+ stuff blew up. Funny how they had kind of left us alone before TRAs provoked them. The real fear of TRAs is that the LGB will cut themselves loose from the sinking ship of the TQ+.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-09T02:47:34+00:00

Dear HRC, GLAAD, et al.,

Thanks for your warning, a warning we wouldn't need if you hadn't been so completely tone-deaf and arrogant in pushing radical trans policies.

Remember when Elizabeth Birch was the head of HRC and kept trans demands off the table because she knew they would derail everything the LGB were fighting for? I do.

Thanks for taking 50 years of progress and fucking it all up by pushing trans kids and the new religion that is gender. Thanks for giving us all the bad publicity any minority could ever wish for.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-23T14:47:40+00:00

men with trans histories

They just keep on making up new terminology to obscure the reality of the situation. What is a "trans history"? You used to be trans, but not anymore?

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-25T14:25:56+00:00

Also how were transgender people persecuted, exactly? When was transition ever illegal? His only evidence seems to be that gays didn't center him enough.

And what "rights" is she still fighting for? The fact is that most of the political victories won by gays and lesbians directly or indirectly benefited trans people, too, like overturning sodomy laws (not mentioned here). And same-sex marriage meant that whatever your sex was, it no longer mattered. Oh, but we can't be given credit for that. We're just the mean, old oppressors who reduced her to robbing hotel safes to make a living.

But the whole thing is pretty much a vague fluff piece to create another trans Saint.

Who’s gonna let me own property?

Uh, maybe the county office of deeds and records?

And she acts like someone is going to come break down her door and arrest her at any moment, which is not going to happen.

Back in the 80s and 90s, I knew gay men who donated tens of thousands of dollars to keep the lights on in gay and lesbian and HIV/AIDS resource centers. None of them, as far as I know, are going around demanding credit for it. They didn't say a word about it then and never have.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-25T14:14:36+00:00

The gay and lesbian leaders were “ashamed to be seen with us” and dismissed Johnson and Rivera as “drug-addicted, alcoholic, crazy bitches [who] aren’t part of this”, she says in her book.

None of which is factually inaccurate.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-24T15:08:45+00:00

If true, that photo-editing is directly from the Joseph Stalin playbook. (Stalin had people who had become political enemies edited out of historic photos.)

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-13T13:18:07+00:00

I AM FUCKING AUTISTIC.

Yes, and probably narcissistic as well, since narcissists experience distress when anyone challenges their fragile self-image. They expect their whole world to revolve around their feelings.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-01T12:32:23+00:00

What you have to realize at this point is that none of this rhetoric is rational. It's all intended to keep the forces riled up and stoke the fires of hysteria. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a very good way to respond to it. Because it's not rational, you can't reason with people in the grip of this mindset. What you can do is speak to people who have not yet fallen into the hysteria.

These posts also serve to distract from the stupid things that "we've" done like the wedding cake case. No one needed to bring a discrimination case against a religious baker who didn't want to bake a gay wedding cake. It was petty and vindictive. And it made us all look bad.

A discrimination test case like that should have been reserved for something serious, something most people could sympathize with, like something that threatened someone's housing, job, or medical care.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-19T12:46:13+00:00

the lgbt community didn't act like they don't need to care about their public image anymore

This is what I don't get. Why, in the current climate, do you have people doing things like that basically-naked guy in bondage with a guy behind him with a whip in the bed of a pickup truck in the WeHo Pride Parade? Why do we have Rose Montoya flashing her tits at the White House? Why do they not understand that we live in a world where every photo or video can get spread around the world in an instant by people who don't like us? How have they become so arrogant and reckless? Is it the case that your temporary, cheap thrill is more important than our entire community's image?

Seems like "Pride" should be rebranded as "Hubris."

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-14T15:59:38+00:00

This post also makes me think: Who plans these events? Who is responsible for this? Who arranges for Biden to meet with people like Dylan Mulvaney and have Rose Montoya at the White House? Why are we being represented by the biggest jackasses in the LGBTQ world? Who's getting people like Sam Brinton hired?

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-12T01:26:59+00:00

It's very easy to understand and can be explained in two words: Narcissistic Rage.

If you've never seen a pathological narcissist's fragile self-image threatened, count yourself lucky. An example would be the guy who kills his girlfriend because she was planning to leave him, and he's not the kind of person someone is allowed to leave.

This is why the GameStop Ma'am trans woman went berserk.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-02T19:20:06+00:00

So your breasts made you suicidal but not having straight sex and carrying a baby inside you for 9 months. Makes sense.

In older SciFi, this is the kind of paradox that would have made an artificial intelligence explode.

both partners live with autism and ADHD

Sounds like a great environment in which to raise a child.

JulienMayfair · 2023-05-31T18:29:03+00:00

an accurate prediction

It was accurate only in a general way. The specifics were all wrong, bordering on the unimaginable.

We've thoroughly discussed the fact that for many of us, the TQ+ stuff seemed to come out of nowhere. Prior to 2015, most everyone I knew was focused on same-sex marriage and maybe protection in terms of housing and job discrimination for LGB people. If you had told me in 2013 that in 2023 we'd be in the midst of an uproar about putting kids on puberty blockers, teaching kids gender identity theory, males competing against females in sports, and non-binary identities, I would have thought you were crazy.

What the right said was that gay marriage was going to lead to efforts to legalize incest, polygamous marriage, and bestiality. That's not where we've ended up. I think it's unfair to give conservatives credit for being right when, in fact, they predicted things that didn't happen and failed to predict those who did.

Pretty much the only people who foresaw our current problems were the gender critical feminists. They were right.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-03T16:19:22+00:00

I had to read this several times to get what was going on.

So, a gay trans man was dating another gay trans man, but now, the second trans man is detransitioning, so it would now be a gay trans man dating a woman.

But in one of those moments of clarity she says:

I feel like anyone who saw us would just assume we are lesbians.

Yes, that's probably right.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-15T18:10:02+00:00

It's the TQ+'s way of denying their responsibility for provoking the current backlash and trying to make us forget that things were going well for us before they rolled out all the gender demands.

Reminds me of former friends of mine with addiction problems who constantly blamed all their problems on someone else. It was never their fault, and they'd never take responsibility for the consequences of their actions. And they constantly use all their friends to try to bail them out of their latest fuckup.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-25T17:57:37+00:00

The kinds of people who write articles like this are masters at insinuating certain things without ever stating how there could ever be any direct cause and effect. It's like when they say she's still fighting for "rights," but never name one.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-02T14:10:14+00:00

All those decades of butch lesbians just didn't understand that they were really men!

And women dressing like men! How shocking!

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-04T21:10:20+00:00

I'm a gay trans guy, but . . .

. . . I know nothing about what gay men actually want, even though I could browse a few gay-themed subs, see endless pictures of dick on display, and draw the conclusion so obvious you'd have to be thick in the head not to get it.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-14T12:57:45+00:00

There are a lot of sensible comments on this thread about how it was a stupid move. More of the responders to this post seem to understand exactly that it's gender that's fueling the current anti-LGBTQ backlash than would be the case, for example, on your average AskGayBros post.

JulienMayfair · 2023-05-25T02:41:49+00:00

I went to a large high school in the 1980s. I'd go so far as to say the whole concept didn't exist. Gay people, yes, but not trans. The word 'transgender' wasn't even in use yet. Graduated college in 1990 from a highly-ranked very liberal university, and I never heard the topic mentioned once during my college career, much less knew anyone. In the 1990s, I went to grad school and knew one trans person at that university, but that was it. I taught until 2010 and never had a single trans-identified student in any of my classes, and for several years, I taught 120 students per semester. With some rough math, I taught over 2,400 students.

All this exploded post-2010.

Transition used to be very rare because it was considered only if other treatments were unsuccessful, but now, in many places, even trying to treat gender dysphoria can be illegal.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-02T14:14:10+00:00

It's always some evil conspiracy. We're not capable of having thoughts of our own. We're just unwitting pawns being programmed by the right-wing to divide and conquer the glorious, united LGBTQIA+.

And who sounds more delusional? Who constantly repeats the same slogans and statements of faith? Who is really programmed?

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-25T17:48:42+00:00

LGB in the 1990s and 2000s: "We don't want to destroy the family. We just want to be able to marry the people we love."

Radical Queers in the 2020s: "As a matter of fact, yes, we do want to abolish the traditional family."

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-03T03:01:09+00:00

Imagine when they try to explain sexual reproduction to this child.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-13T00:06:42+00:00

Who would EVER have suspected anyone would DO such a thing???

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-13T19:15:52+00:00

Looks like the two categories are Man and Other . . . How progressive.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-09T13:12:06+00:00

It's so heartwarming when two heterosexuals find the right kink.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-13T13:21:35+00:00

Meet the TQ+.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-23T00:31:34+00:00

I, too, hate it when reality intrudes on my fantasy.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-15T14:14:35+00:00

What I want to know is who, specifically, invites people like Rose Montoya to an event at the White House. Biden certainly isn't making these lists himself. Even trans subreddits are talking about what a disaster this was and are asking the same question. They don't want to be represented by people like this.

I'm a gay man who runs his own business and takes care of his elderly parents, like a lot of people my age. I lead a fairly boring, respectable life. Why do I have to be represented by drag queens, rainbow-haired radical "queers," and narcissistic trans "media influencers"?

JulienMayfair · 2023-05-31T11:02:18+00:00

They were initially, but then I guess the TRA brigade showed up.

JulienMayfair · 2023-05-31T02:43:41+00:00

It really kills me when some of these guys call things aimed at children a right-wing myth.

1) Drag Queen Story Hour
2) The Gender Unicorn
3) The Genderbread Person
4) Mermaids
5) Various pediatric gender clinics
6) All the rainbow-haired TQ+ teachers who've posted videos of themselves

JulienMayfair · 2023-05-29T13:35:13+00:00

Going back to my college days and my subsequent time teaching in academia, there is a long history of a certain subset of women, for example, taking a Women's Studies class and declaring themselves bisexual or lesbian for a while, then, without fanfare, returning to dating men. With the advent of LGBTQIA+ as a club so many now seem to want to join, it's not inconceivable that some of these women first claim to be lesbians. Then, once they switch to claiming to be trans, they can now admit to being attracted to men again while still retaining their status as LGBTQIA+.

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-14T21:19:27+00:00

They must have missed the brown & black people recently protesting against teaching kids gender identity theory.

JulienMayfair · 2023-08-03T19:10:37+00:00

"I want a real dick, you know, like the kind I don't have."

JulienMayfair · 2023-08-26T14:17:04+00:00

As a former teacher, I offer this observation: People like freedom, but only to a certain point. People also, generally speaking, want to fit in. They like to be told what's expected of them and to be rewarded for delivering it.

For years, we tried to attack gender roles, but then, seemingly almost overnight, they came back with a vengeance. I can't help but think that it's because conforming to an established gender role gives some sense of stability to people who are looking for some kind of stable reference point for their identity. And I think part of that has to do with the declining role of traditional religion. Gender has become a kind of neo-religion. Compare it to people becoming "born again."

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-09T14:04:34+00:00

Nothing says 'progressive' like encouraging violence against women who refuse to validate you.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-27T13:58:46+00:00

"Waiter, could I see your whine menu?"

Gender-swapped heterosexual couple doesn't feel they fit in with gay men. I can't imagine why that is. I guess we didn't get the memo that we're supposed to kiss your ass and congratulate you for being so brave and stunning.

He describes himself as an 'actor, entrepreneur, public speaker, advocate, and educator' on his website.

Aka, professional attention whore.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-13T13:07:34+00:00

Reading this, the framing of the issue is the thing that needs critical examination. This article is not about civil rights; it's about whether or not "influencers" are making as much money off Pride as they'd like.

The first Gay Pride march was about civil rights, not about whether or not someone in clown/bimbo makeup is raking in enough cash.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-07T21:30:22+00:00

I don't like Matt Walsh for a number of reasons, but I can't fault him for his investigation into the gender industry.

We have known for years that people were getting coached on what to say to get approved for transition, to the point of being told to claim that they were suicidal. The rubber-stamping just takes it one step further.

Hell, I couldn't even get a telehealth doctor to prescribe a medication I'd had before for a severe muscle spasm, but it appears if I wanted to get approved for castration, that would be much easier.

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-30T00:20:37+00:00

I'm so tired of the cognitive dissonance. Who could look at that face and not instantly think, "Male." It turns out that a friend of mine on Facebook apparently has a daughter who's become a trans man. There was a photo recently mentioning her "son," and I thought, "That doesn't look like a son. Oh . . . " I looked through the photos and thought, "This person is so obviously shaped like a woman from every angle." But we're supposed to act like we're all fooled. Makes my head hurt.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-09T14:23:08+00:00

My take: Forget pregnancy . . . none of these manipulative, narcissistic people who wouldn't know a healthy personal boundary if they saw one should be raising a child.

JulienMayfair · 2024-04-29T14:32:18+00:00

He claims to have felt like a woman all his life, but he's surprised when he tells his wife a secret and the first thing she does is to tell another woman.

JulienMayfair · 2024-01-15T17:35:00+00:00

Yes, kids, puberty influences brain development along with the rest of your body, something we all used to understand before the rise of gender ideology.

JulienMayfair · 2023-12-22T14:39:24+00:00

So, this is an FTM dating an MTF. It's a heterosexual couple with extra steps. The next complaint will be about how, when she becomes pregnant, people don't take her seriously as a man because she's having a baby.

Please explain to me why I am considered part of the same community.

JulienMayfair · 2023-11-09T16:21:39+00:00

"Hi, I'm an overweight, conventionally-unattractive woman who's decided to become non-binary because I'm otherwise of little interest to anyone for any reason."

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-26T23:49:42+00:00

Translation: "Cancel it, or we're going to make sure you get fired and never get hired again, ever."

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-13T18:06:14+00:00

I know an older transwoman who told me privately that she is de facto asexual due to chronic infection in the surgically-created vagina. She told me she regrets transition, especially the surgery, but is resigned to living with the consequences. And this is someone who did it when there was much more gatekeeping. The medical authorities promoting transition really do not tell people about the long-term outcomes. That's not part of the brochure.

JulienMayfair · 2023-08-17T12:19:14+00:00

When you feel that desperate need to virtue-signal . . .

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-08T21:09:20+00:00

Funny how I lived through most of the 80s, 90s, and 00s without running into many trans people involved in gay activism. Actually, for the 80s, the count would be zero.

But I suppose that youngsters like this one just believe what they've been told by other TRAs.

And, for that matter, most LGB goals of the time were also of benefit to trans people, like getting rid of sodomy laws, so if trans people were involved, it's not it was some sort of selfless effort.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-28T22:15:27+00:00

Fear and guilt, the guilt being the mythical trans woman who threw the mythical first brick at Stonewall and magically created the whole gay rights movement in that instant. But I think that one isn't working as well for them as it used to.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-28T03:25:35+00:00

As a former academic who actually taught his subject seriously, all these DEI grifters really disgust me. All they do is metastasize like cancer, creating more and more highly-paid positions for one another, running up the cost of a college education because students end up taking on debt to cover the cost of their worthless careers.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-26T12:38:24+00:00

I'm in my 50s, and I'm constantly struck by how quickly gender has exploded as an identity category since 2010. I used to teach university classes, and in 20 years of teaching, I never had a single trans-identified student. Yes, I had known a few transgender people -- very few -- but it was still very rare. And whatever "transgender" is, I still think it's not well-understood.

What I do think is that the phenomenon seems to express some need for identity categories on the part of younger people. They seem to be looking for some points of stable reference in our culture, and gender appears to have been offered to them as an option. It reminds me to some degree of people I've encountered who were deeply into astrology or some other kind of trendy identity, one difference being that astrology hasn't been taken this seriously for centuries.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-20T13:45:09+00:00

In years past, they just went into the priesthood . . .

JulienMayfair · 2023-08-04T21:17:57+00:00

The peakage seems to be gaining momentum.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-16T13:04:26+00:00

"Guys, I'm thinking of leaving the cult."

"No, you're still one of us!!!"

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-09T02:47:35+00:00

I went to a highly-ranked university in the 1980s, and I never even heard the concept of being transgender mentioned once. And I had some bleeding-heart lefty friends.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-08T12:48:19+00:00

"wHy r u sO oBesSeSed wItH tRans fOlx?"

"Now, if you aren't completely on-board the gender train, you will be immediately fired and blacklisted."

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-05T13:33:32+00:00

Well, I suppose if you turn yourself into something few people want to have sex with, it could reduce your chances of acquiring and spreading HIV.

But mostly he just sounds like an idiot who's not used to public speaking. Maybe he left out a paragraph.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-27T21:37:24+00:00

That sub has two trans mods and one mod that's been suspended (probably LGB). It's a good object lesson in the fact that the one thing trans activists hate more than anything else is being told, "No." The idea that any space is not for them drives them insane with rage and the urge to retaliate. I presume we've all heard of the women's groups deliberately disrupted by trans women.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-20T14:55:38+00:00

This has proved a very interesting discussion thread. Seems more and more gay men are getting that this drop in approval has come via the pursuit of TQ+ demands.

I would be interested to understand the motivations of the ones righteously defending the TQ+, but they are probably not self-aware enough to analyze why they take that position. All they seem to do is repeat the same slogans over and over. You know, anyone who thinks differently is a stooge/pawn for the far-right. We're brainwashed, etc...

And they keep trashing the AGB subreddit when, in fact, the reason those opinions can't be expressed on other LGBTQ+ subs is that the mods ban anyone who expresses them, creating an artificial perception of consensus. It's an artificial sense of unity created by silencing dissent.

JulienMayfair · 2023-05-30T15:07:36+00:00

If a seven year-old claims to be non-binary, I start wondering about the how much the parent had to do with that. Actors -- and I have some personal experience with this -- tend not to be the most stable, psychologically-healthy people.

JulienMayfair · 2023-05-23T12:35:46+00:00

As least it's honest.

JulienMayfair · 2024-04-30T17:14:48+00:00

My university recently had an event for BIPOC LGBTQIA+ alums at a reunion. I walked by the location just to see. I think there were three people there, who were probably the organizers.

Remember, all these DEI program directors have to create events in order to look like their salaries are justified.

JulienMayfair · 2023-10-26T18:44:03+00:00

so i pass aside from my height and the fact that i haven’t had any surgeries

"So, I pass, aside from my vagina and breasts."

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-20T14:24:25+00:00

I'm a subatomic particle that simultaneously exists in two different states in different parts of the multiverse.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-21T00:32:26+00:00

they'll probably accuse you of homophobia.

No, that's not how it works. You see, in the woke hierarchy, trans currently ranks higher than gay or lesbian, so you can be as homophobic as you want as long as you're being pro-trans.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-07T17:55:11+00:00

It's all self-congratulatory self-righteousness.

"Sigh. I know there are people who disagree with me. I can't IMAGINE why they do because I hold all the CORRECT opinions on EVERYTHING."

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-06T17:39:01+00:00

It's a warning label, like the biohazard symbol.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-20T19:54:41+00:00

I'm sure they enjoyed giving Putin the middle finger.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-14T01:05:30+00:00

Asexuals . . . a topic I still can't be bothered to care about.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-02T14:23:56+00:00

Note that it's a completely different history and cast of characters from gay rights. At least they are more honest than the trans women and their claims about Sylvia Rivera and Marsha P. Johnson.

JulienMayfair · 2024-03-29T01:42:57+00:00

" . . . and my gender is a special internal feeling that happens to match up with totally traditional gender role stereotypes that feminists spent decades trying to escape."

JulienMayfair · 2024-01-05T13:34:44+00:00

If you're a DEI professional, there's no reason to try to reduce racial tensions since that would eliminate the need for your job. It's generally a mistake to allow a profession to proliferate that depends on the existence of an ongoing problem that they are employed to "solve." If they solve it, they put themselves out of business. Much better to make it worse.

JulienMayfair · 2023-12-29T16:35:19+00:00

Yes, explain to me why, as a gay man, I am considered part of the same "community" as severely mentally-ill men who want to cut their genitals off. Drop the T, the Q, and the +++++.

JulienMayfair · 2023-11-06T17:37:34+00:00

I think 'manifesto' is a bit of an exaggeration. This is just a spew of animosities. There's no attempt to justify any of it in terms of some larger cause, which is what someone might attempt in a manifesto. She sounds to me like someone who hated the world and her insignificance in it and wanted to kill some people to spread her own misery around. This is what it's like inside the mind of a frustrated narcissist.

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-20T14:06:13+00:00

Does dye for unnatural hair colors cause brain damage?

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-14T00:24:12+00:00

One of our problems is our era's misplaced confidence in the idea that we're so enlightened that we're somehow beyond being caught up in magical/superstitious thinking. The rise of gender identity dogma shows just how wrong that idea is. Human beings are still vulnerable to believing all sorts of crazy shit if it's packaged in the right way.

JulienMayfair · 2023-09-01T14:52:16+00:00

This is how they feel important and assert control over other people.

Bingo.

JulienMayfair · 2023-08-25T21:31:57+00:00

This reminds me of someone buying swampland and then complaining bitterly because they can't build a house on it. You should think carefully about future consequences before committing to a major decision and not expect the world to change to accommodate you.

JulienMayfair · 2023-08-15T15:32:55+00:00

I guess it's rewarding to co-opt other people's suffering and pretend it's your own. Seems to be a current cultural pathology.

JulienMayfair · 2023-07-02T14:19:20+00:00

Well, of course, they argue that restricting transition of minors is "genocide" because they're all going to kill themselves if they can't transition, notwithstanding the fact that it's unclear whether transition affects suicide rates or not.

I find myself using the word 'hysteria' a lot now because it is a lot of collective, contagious hysteria.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-25T00:14:51+00:00

I agree, and

7) They're in New York City, and most of the nonsense comes out of these islands of hyper-progresssive wokeness along with San Francisco.

And when the rest of us relatively normal, boring LGB people tell them to stop it, they accuse us of being self-hating Nazi collaborators. They absolutely refuse to accept that they could ever go too far.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-20T14:49:36+00:00

The LGB are at least partly to blame for Drag Queen Story Hour and some of the exhibitionist/fetishist stuff you see at Pride. We'd be a lot better off if we curbed that impulse and pursued kink (if you want to) in private.

JulienMayfair · 2023-06-11T00:45:15+00:00

One: Never take a Gender Studies class or any class taught by a woke nutjob.

Two: As a former academic myself, I ran a Google Scholar search. I can't find any publications or citations for this person. Maybe she changed her name? Don't see any listing of her CV or PhD.

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