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AL: Transbian complaining that /actuallylesbian is a terf sub and centered on cis lesbianism, another transbian chimes in that it's exclusionary that jokes about lesbian sex is considered lesbian culture by winterwillow in LGBDropTheT

[–]Houseplant 54 insightful - 16 fun54 insightful - 15 fun55 insightful - 16 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao lesbians talking about vaginas and lesbian sex is cruel to me, a heterosexual man. Talk about my dick and your own sexuality less or you are bad lesbians.

Pathetic.

Child-transing subreddit/forum r/lgballt villainizes bisexuals in favor of pansexuals by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Houseplant 27 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So super special gender flags as balls is the stupidest format I’ve ever seen for a comic.

How do we tell the difference?

by Houseplant to /s/GCdebatesQT from (self.GCdebatesQT)

QT, if gender is innate to identity

by Houseplant to /s/GCdebatesQT from (self.GCdebatesQT)

Elliot Page Says 'I Knew I Was a Boy When I Was a Toddler': 'Absolutely, 100%' by Femaleisnthateful in GenderCritical

[–]Houseplant 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, and I -knew- I could fly. Didn’t stop gravity from sending me directly down when I stepped off the banister. Nature doesn’t care what preschoolers “know”

If lesbians like strap-ons then they can surely take my (lady) dick by BenitoGreen99 in TumblrInAction

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Fellow women don’t you think raping women who said no to my cock would be a very fun and sexy time? They disagree with me so it’s good to rape them haha. I’ll rape you if you don’t laugh teehee.

QT: How is not creepy/predatory for people with male bodies aka men to demand access to women's single sex spaces where women are going to naked like locker rooms? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What do you think of the fact that males make up the vast majority of sex crime perpetrators? Do you disagree? If not, how do you reconcile saying that it doesn’t matter with males being the most likely to plant a camera and sell footage you don’t know about of you changing a tampon?

What question(s) do you want to ask a transgender person? by [deleted] in AskSaidIt

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 9 fun16 insightful - 8 fun17 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao. You clearly have zero idea what feminism is. It exists outside of America but sure, it’s all to take down American traditions.

If you think you’re a woman because you wear a dress and set the table, you’re enforcing sexist gender roles and implying woman is an act that is performed not a person.

Typical men

All: What would it take for everyone to be friends again? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know some people from that crowd see us as people but the ideology itself does not. When those individuals choose to support the ideology and ignore women, they’re just as bad.

If there’s any peace to be had it’s gonna have to come from tra changing and not being such a dictatorial misogynistic movement. Gendered thinking cannot exist peacefully with the people gender oppresses.

Both: What do you think about the transgender incident at the Wi Spa in Los Angeles? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The person in question was not a woman since they flashed a big ol’ penis and testicles.

GC: Are "male" and "female" fallacious dichotomous categories? Are we guilty of either-or, black and white, excluded middle, and false dilemma fallacies when we categorize things into binaries such as "male" and "female"? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

No.

Engage on your last almost identical thread before making another post with a question that has been answered as nauseum.

GC: Humans are one of the few species with two sexes. There are species with four, thousands, or an unlimited number of sexes, which means "male" and "female" are social constructs and not universal categories that can be applied to other species by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I remember how hard it was to tell my mama from a clownfish.

Answer responses to your nonsense in old threads before starting the next one or be a funnier troll. This is ridiculous.

GC: What about male women, male men, female women and female men? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

What about rainbow zebras? What about the fair folk? What about any other thing that doesn’t exist?

Redefining words to mean nothing is useless and stupid. Does the word green change meaning if I’m very insistent that green defines the colour pink?

Does a dog stop being a dog and start being scaly if I demand everyone who sees it call it a very good lizard?

QT: Do women have a right to boundaries? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

The part where they’re males not women. That’s what they choose to ignore when telling us they’re perfectly safe to sit in our washrooms tweeting about how we should choke to death on their girldick.

You all LGB people are just boring and uncool by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes, being gay was always about the deviancy and edginess, because homosexuality is a choice you make to rebel. Have these kids considered writing for youth pastors? They’ve pretty much already got young Christian pamphlets in their tweets.

All: What would it take for everyone to be friends again? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Truly don’t think it’s possible. There cannot be any friendship with a group that does not treat women as human beings.

QT: How is not creepy/predatory for people with male bodies aka men to demand access to women's single sex spaces where women are going to naked like locker rooms? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What makes those spaces yours?

GC: Why aren't trans men allowed to have their own spaces? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You misunderstand what female means. All transmen are female.

Identity

by Houseplant to /s/GCdebatesQT from (self.GCdebatesQT)

Will the Ts tear apart the LGB? by jacques1102 in TumblrInAction

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

T needs to be cut out of lgb like a cancer. There’s no room for an inherently homophobic stance at the gay club.

GC: Why doesn't passing count? by BasCaptain in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Last night I made silk and velvet mushrooms. Should I fry them up and eat them? They look like mushrooms.

My nephew dresses up as a kangaroo. The suit looks like a kangaroo. There’s a plush toy joey in the pouch. Is my nephew two kangaroos?

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lurk around, read literally just one thing from gc, before asking stupid repeat questions I am begging you

Both: What do you think about the transgender incident at the Wi Spa in Los Angeles? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How typical that you can’t argue against this fact.

BOTH: Recently the following claim was made: "Being cis and straight is a trauma response". Do you agree with this claim? by ISaidWhatISaid in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’a so daft it’s like they are making superhuman efforts to make everyone else look as silly as they deep down suspect their gender theories are.

GC: Why do you think it's not biologically essentialist and biologically deterministic to define sex on the basis of gametes and sex organs? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Woman=adult human female does not infer any universal experience, nor does it refer to a feminine essence or soul that can become trapped in a wrong body as queer theory says it can.

Essentialism isn’t there.

Woman=adult human female is descriptive, not prescriptive. It’s an observation of physical reality. An adult human female is any adult human who’s body developed in such a way that without disease, disorder, injury, or medical interference, will release ova. It’s not contingent on actual ovulation.

Nobody body stops existing if it’s not being actively used. We’re bipedal when we’re sitting down just as much as when we’re walking.

All: Is autogynephilia normal in natal women? by CRTmonitor in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. It’s doesn’t even make sense. Imagining your own female body doing sexual things is hardly the same as someone who’s arousal comes from the imagining a female body part.

For women that’s just their body. For men, it’s a woman’s body as an object.

QT: Do you understand why women need single sex spaces? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting how quickly and easily gb dismisses discomfort she doesn’t experience but other women do, when she argues that men’s feelings about womanhood aren’t considered enough by gc/radical feminists.

No empathy or tolerance there for women whatsoever.

Both: What do you think of the new Super Straight movement? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hilarious. Tra/qt got cocky and now more people than ever are seeing just how grossly sexist and rapey movement is.

Super straight is a moment, not a movement. It can’t last but it’s for great memes.

GC: Scientists say sex is a spectrum, even an illusory man-made social construct by Fastandthecurious in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

HOW DOES BABBY FORMED? HOW DOES WOMEN GET PRAGANANT?

Name the third gamete or quit pretending mushrooms and shit having different reproductive roles to mammals magically changes how humans have procreated for all history.

QT: Do you understand why women need single sex spaces? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If women are so violent, abusive, and dangerous to males, why on earth is it so crucial to y’all that males get access to female spaces?

Let’s discuss this casual throwing around of terms like ‘nazi’ by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

The new flair is the best and stupidest thing I’ve ever heard a male say in the sub.

We are responsible for this random males emotions, ability to keep himself alive, and protection from men who might hurt him. Also we’re stupid, racist ableist idiots who force people to suicide and better stop crossing his lines. If we’re so horrible and useless why does he put us in charge of whether or not he offs himself?

It’s so much effort when he could just say “I hate women and want to stop them doing anything I dislike” and move on.

Lib fem mag before lib fem existed COSMOPOLITAN says, "Yes, There's a Safe Way to Have a Cannibalism Fetish..." by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]Houseplant 12 insightful - 10 fun12 insightful - 9 fun13 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

~Ten reasons to let very nice guy Ed gein turn your nipples into a belt!~

Women don’t pass as women all the time…what does this even mean?

by Houseplant to /s/GenderCritical from (ibb.co)

GC: Why doesn't passing count? by BasCaptain in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Dolls look like people. Barbie is alive.

Both: Are sexual stereotypes about men and women in the bedroom true? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol, nope. Not surprised some dude thinks he knows the sexuality of all women better than themselves. Dude literally describes himself as a gender essentialist. He believes modern western gender norms are an innate feature of human sexuality. Might as well just wear a tin foil hat.

Both: What do you think about the transgender incident at the Wi Spa in Los Angeles? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Since women don’t exist, transwomen can’t exist. So transwomen cannot possibly need rights or hormones or surgeries. Can’t get facial feminisation when there’s no such thing as a female. So I can call all transwomen men to their faces and it’s not rude or offensive because man isn’t a category or thing.

Redacted because mods aren’t allowed to endorse common sense without qt revolting.

Thoughts on this thread? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She will not die without testosterone. She does not need it to function. She wants it for its cosmetic effects. Discontinuation will not cause any disease to come back or flare up. Why are we acting like exogenous hormones for gender issues are the same thing as insulin or actually necessary medicine.

GC: Are "male" and "female" fallacious dichotomous categories? Are we guilty of either-or, black and white, excluded middle, and false dilemma fallacies when we categorize things into binaries such as "male" and "female"? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I did answer you. That’s what the no was. If you’d read here a little first you’d see that sex as a spectrum has been very clearly debunked multiple times.

The freaking out you’re imagining is simple exasperation with brand new users coming here, positing a bad idea like sex as a spectrum, acting like the question is brand new and not answered.

How about you read up AND go away lol

All: Why do a lot of trans people insist that being non binary or trans has nothing to to with stereotyoes, and then suddenly it really is about stereotypes? by questioningtw in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Same reason they drag people with intersex disorders into it. It’s convenient, and you can silence any refutation by simply repeating ‘nope you’re a bigot nope nope nope’ and never have to critically think about a single thing they do or say.

All: Is physically transitioning ethical? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Transitioning as an adult is fine. Your body, your money, your right. As long as the adult in question is capable of rational decision-making and understands the risks they are exposing themselves to, no problem.

It is unethical imo to believe that these surgeries should be publicly funded or should be prioritised ahead of medically necessary procedures. Nobody has died directly due to not having breasts, many have died without rapid mastectomy.
Suicide is not directly caused by waiting for surgery. It may be a factor in someone’s choice to end their life, but it is emotionally manipulative and disingenuous when people claim suicide counts as a death from not getting surgery.

There is no ethical way to experiment on children if we accept exposing children to harm is ethically wrong.

People can argue til they are blue in the face that it isn’t experimentation but they also cannot produce documentation of long term results of puberty blockers in healthy children, and they cannot provide evidence of puberty blockers being harmless in children who had precocious puberty.

It might not be set up as an experiment according to scientific method, but it is experimental. It has not been done before and the long term outcomes are unknown.

Halting a child’s development to, paradoxically somehow allow them to develop, is unethical imo. It is taking a physically healthy child and interfering with the healthy functions of their body to focus further on gender identity. Anything short of guiding the child to understanding that their body is healthy and acceptable as it is, and that their sex does not prevent them from being the people they want to be, is too close to conversion therapy for my comfort.

Encouraging a child to think that they have the wrong body is cruel and unusual. We recognise this when parents foster eating disordered behaviour or shame visible conditions like cleft lips, strabismus, limps, palsies, etc etc. Changing the specific flaw to the child’s sex does not change the fact that the idea encouraged is a vile one.

How do we tell the difference? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the sentiment I’ve gotten from a qt user here as well as a number of transgender posters. I believe the majority of tra appeals to niceness with zero thought about how niceness is taken advantage of.

GC: How does one best cultivate self-love and self-acceptance? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Internal rather than external validation for starters.

The ability to value yourself even when faced with difficulty or rejection without needing another party to assign value to you. Imo this is desperately lacking. When you have a bad day a healthy adult is meant to be able to say ‘I did my best’ and move on.

Instead we have a generation of adults who try and strip women of rights because they lack the ability to say ‘I’m a woman to me and that’s enough’

GC: What are your arguments against "lesbians and trans men are men in women's bodies" and "gay men and trans women are women in men's bodies"? by CuteAsDuck in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not a homophobe so I don’t accept it.

Seems more than a little on the nose to suggest that a lesbian has a male brain or a gay man has a female brain. The thing about homosexuality is you can’t reasonably assume they’re really heterosexuals gone wrong somehow. Like, a hetero “spirit” in the wrong body. Ew. Asking for homophobic studies makes me wonder if you’re coming from a homophobic place here.

Are you suggesting that the idea you’re presenting has any sort of validity?

Vancouver Rape Relief GoFundMe canceled by SilverSlippers in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because women don’t deserve shelter if it hurts men’s feelings. Not being allowed in this one shelter hurt their feelings, so it’s justified as far as they are concerned. Punishing the shelter is tit for tat.

Any comebacks to "if a gay man likes penises, why not be with a woman that wears strap-on dildos"? by Not_a_celebrity in LGBDropTheT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t wanna is an acceptable answer here. It’s rapey and gross to argue why someone should actually consider sleeping with someone they don’t want to. It’s also crazy homophobic to tell a homosexual person that if someone has the right plastic accessories, they can have the sex other people deem acceptable.

How much do we owe to strangers?

by Houseplant to /s/GCdebatesQT from (self.GCdebatesQT)

Both:What's with all the disappearing threads that didn't go as OPs who are QT expected? by MarkTwainiac in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Mild criticism of you is a wild giant tantrum? If we’re so sad with our big dumb arguments why not make a decent point that refutes a single one instead of screaming ‘sauce!? Sauce please!?’ When someone says rape hurts a woman?

Why do you need answers and sources so badly for something you think is so stupid?

Why are you still posting here like you want a last word or some zinger if we’re all so dumb and wrong? Surely you’d just wow us with your intellect and then run back to your fellow brainiacs on r/traaaaaaaaans.

Your inability to adapt to a forum outside of Reddit and refusal to read what we say before asking silly questions means we are sad and wrong? 👍🏻 Checks out. We are wrong about sexed segregation and you’ve proven it by ignoring our arguments and calling it a circlejerk. Good one man, sure showed us.

Alleged Trans incident at upscale LA Spa may have been staged by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How would they know since, according to your own arguments, it is impossible to see if someone is male, female, or transgender?

QT: What rights don’t trans people have? by wokuspokus in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The list sounds like a narcissists Wishlist lol.

People on tv should be more like me, people should enjoy it when I flirt with them, people should like the way I look, people should let me go where I want to go, people should put my feelings first.

I cannot comprehend why gb does this on the behalf of such obvious self centered people.

GC: Scientists say sex is a spectrum, even an illusory man-made social construct by Fastandthecurious in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

There’s no difference between sperm and ova because a bee was made with two bee sperm. So naturally next week we will see pregnant natal males all over the place because their sperm is identical to an ova.

What is a woman by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Please define female. Please define gender identity. Please explain what adult human females without gender identities are.

What is a woman by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Dude is gender neutral. I call my sister dude. I’m not using it in a gendered sense. Anyway, misgendering is just a social construct.

Lol I’m rude for expecting more than one word answers but you’re not rude for saying explaining it to us is worthless?

Any comebacks to "if a gay man likes penises, why not be with a woman that wears strap-on dildos"? by Not_a_celebrity in LGBDropTheT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Woops! Nobody is more oppressed than the trans! So evil of me to suggest a transgender person could do something wrong!! It’s the terrible gays that are phobic for not being hetero!

GC: If a male were to play as a "female" character is the "female" character actually male, and vice versa? by Not_a_celebrity in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Obviously not. You gonna get surgery from the guy who plays a tv doctor? What does this have to do with gender or feminism?

Why trans don't tell their dates, that they are trans? by ygrek in GenderCritical

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They do not care about the wants, needs, rights, or attraction if the other person. They only care about their own wants and attraction, which they rename their rights.

They want to use a sexual partner as a validating tool, not have a sexual partner to share intimacy or pleasure with.

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. I’m saying they are taught it as normalcy and propriety from birth.

I don’t know what they want, but I doubt the average woman wakes up and says I will wear a skirt because it is womanly.

It’s not ridiculous, what’s ridiculous is the idea of anybody being truly gender conforming. Nobody meets every norm assigned to their sex.

I just don’t think gender is innate or particularly meaningful when one doesn’t obsess over it like qt does.

I disagree with gender relating to sexuality. How does sexuality translate to ideas like women are emotional, men are aggressive, girls are highly, boys are grubby etc? How does sexuality relate to gender at all?

I agree anyone who presents as gnc and actively makes an effort to do so due to gendered thinking has not escaped gender.
What about those of us who simply don’t assign a gender or sex to our preferences? Is that a lie we tell ourselves? Does that somehow affect our sexuality if the two are linked?

This seems like a whole lot of odd and some sexist assumptions being presented as something like factual or given knowledge.

How does the oppression of women fit into innate gender? Is that oppression the natural order?

Both: What do you think about the transgender incident at the Wi Spa in Los Angeles? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao heim addressing any of the flaws pointed out in ~their~ folio of bullshit is as likely as it raining chocolate sauce.

This is someone who one day says ‘I am a woman’ and the next says ‘women don’t exist’ and then sits back acting like we’re the stupid ones.

Even now heim will ignore the points and simply piss and moan about use of the word stupid and report is as ableism. I’m sick of heim getting away with being a bullshit artist and us getting told to stop calling him a man.

All: What would it take for everyone to be friends again? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Men behaving themselves and not speaking over us and belittling us over the experiences we have and they claim to share.

Transwomen leaving women and women’s spaces alone and instead fighting for their own spaces.

An end to gendering every one and every thing according to the pink and blue paradigm.

An internal push from tra to stop the rampant homophobia and attempts at conversion therapy through saying a sexuality is a genital preference.

Leaving children alone.

GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Women stupidly following genderism are hurting themselves by acting like men are safe to be around. Nobody else. They undermine themselves and that’s it. Transwomen in women’s spaces are a risk to every woman there because of his maleness. His being there undermines the safety of all the women who use the facility.

Why would gc give a shit if some women are foolish enough to insist they are not like the other girls and think that men agree with their gender nonsense?

They’re ridiculous but they aren’t the ones who rape, kill, maim, spy upon, or harass women.

GC: What are the differences between neovagina and vagina, neopenis and penis? by Tea_Or_Coffee in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This dumb shit again. Why aren’t these obvious shit posters banned?

GC & QT: What are your views? by PeakingPeachEater in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We aren’t killing people. This accusation needs to stop being bandied about as if we’re holding guns to people’s heads or actively encouraging people to kill themselves.

Do you not see how bizarre it is to blame someone who cannot even vote on the laws you’re upset about? We don’t make things happen via thoughts. Our ideas do not kill people.

Let’s discuss this casual throwing around of terms like ‘nazi’ by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I want them to stop doing things that impede MY rights as a woman.

Males smh.

Make a real point or get better at snark. You’re currently just embarrassing yourself doing either right now. ETA interesting how you still pick and choose which comments you reply to and only reply with silly snark whilst studiously ignoring questions that poke holes in your dogma.

GC: Is sexual attraction only based on genitals, or is there more to sexual attraction (e.g. attraction to secondary sexual characteristics, "femininity", "masculinity", etc)? by Not_a_celebrity in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Feminine penis? No. A penis is a penis regardless of its size, how soft the skin might be, or how feminine the man who’s penis it is might appear. Estrogen does not magically make a penis anything other than a penis. It’s nonsense to claim it becomes anything other than a limper dick.

I don’t think I have anything worthwhile to contribute to defining people’s sexualities. Been in a hetero relationship for 8 years and will likely stay in it for life. I will say it looks as if homosexual people’s sexualities are being almost weaponised against them and/or erased in a drawn out intellectual exercise. There’s a lot of compulsory heterosexuality demands beneath all the gender identity rhetoric.

GC: Intersex people show that sex, male and female, is a social construct because males can have female genitalia and gonads, go through menstrual cycle, etc, and females can have male genitalia and gonads, etc? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I’m still here to demand the question.

HOW DOES BABBY FORMED?

What is a woman by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So would you say that there are absolutely no commonalities or general trends in a field like say, midwifery?

They should genuinely consider the idea that some of their patients are male? They should investigate all bodily orifices to see where the baby will come out and not assume the patient is a woman with a cervix that is dilating?

It’s extremely difficult to understand how this line of thinking works.

Also!! Does this mean you think the crime stats that prove males make up the majority of rapists is untrue? Because males don’t exist? Is there any commonality between the people making up the rapist demographic besides being rapists? Like the penises they raped with perhaps?

Seriously, this line of thinking would be so harmful if adopted by lawmakers or the general populace.

QT: Do women have a right to boundaries? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Spot on.

Looking for both trans and GC people to work towards stopping predators from accessing our respective spaces by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ah. No thanks. Any male exceptions is unacceptable imo.

All: "Trans women" at the Olympics by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There was no good outcome for women as soon as Laurel was allowed to compete.

If he won, he robbed women of their victory because he has no place in their competition. His loss is now just another tool for people to bludgeon the false message of ~delicate little weakling transwoman couldn’t even lift as much as women do, ergo transwomen can have women’s spaces for protection of their fragile little bones.

Nothing but a loss for women was gonna come out of this because nobody wants the consequences of acknowledging that a shitty male athlete doesn’t have a right to compete with women.

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do most people who perform gender after being indoctrinated in the system since birth really desire performing it? I don’t think so.

I don’t agree with the idea that people generally desire to perform gender, let alone desire to do whatever gender roles indicate they are supposed to do or like.

How does this gel with the narrative many trans people have that follows along the track of ‘I liked pink when told to like blue, therefore I’m a woman inside’ or vice versa?

Do you think the average ‘gender conforming’ (ridiculous notion since nobody is properly conforming to all norms assigned) person truly wants to do it, or simply feels they must due to societal expectations?

Why do we need a flexible gender system? Why do we need gender at all?

It’s not innate imo, and all cultures have it because all cultures recognise the sexed differences and have found it useful to apply restrictions to behaviour.

QT: What rights don’t trans people have? by wokuspokus in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The right to flirt and not be rejected lmfaooooo

Both: What do you think about the transgender incident at the Wi Spa in Los Angeles? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

According to you. Unless you’re suggesting we should all take your opinions as facts. I’m certain that’s what you really want, right?

Anyway, spectrums and identities dont exist. Your identity is just a construct, not what you are Nominalism!

All: What would it take for everyone to be friends again? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it’s a start, but ultimately while individuals can get along, the tra movement cannot coexist with women. It’s too fundamentally hateful of women to allow us humanity or the right to safety. Nobody can be friends with the people who oppress them and that is exactly what the men who most forcefully endorse genderism and tra ideas are.

When it’s no longer trendy there may be a chance for peace between women and transsexuals. From what I’ve seen transsexual individuals are typically uninterested in the modern gender discourse and simply wish to be left be.

Thoughts on this thread? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Genuinely frightened to see adults advocate so hard for the use of drugs with zero comprehension of pharmacy or what a necessary medication is.

What is a woman by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Idk why I ever bother.

For your benefit, you are one of very few people that live according to a 14th century philosophy that’s largely abandoned.

Explain yourself properly or just..dont half-engage and act like nominalism is common knowledge and a normal view of the world.

All: Is autogynephilia normal in natal women? by CRTmonitor in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

obviously I live with what women desire which is masculinity.

Seriously. Just..don’t speak for women. It’s so easy and yet here you are explaining female sexuality as a man with a paraphilia. Gross.

Both: What did you think of the 60 Minutes segment on transgender health care and detransition? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

An attempt was made.

giving in and adding pro trans rhetoric really was shitting all over what would have been a great opportunity for detransitioners to speak. Instead everything they say is bookended by the usual party line.

Media needs to stop bowing to Twitter dipshits.

GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But it’s been explained to you that for others, privacy is absolutely a sex segregated thing. You disagreeing with it doesn’t make others wrong or their needs disappear. Stalls will not help preventing cameras planted by men. Stalls will not stop creepy conversations. Stalls can be blocked by stronger male bodies and now the assault is happening in a locked space.

Stalls do not solve anything other than the “problem” of males lacking access to women’s spaces. Calling the males women does nothing to change this.

What question(s) do you want to ask a transgender person? by [deleted] in AskSaidIt

[–]Houseplant 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

behaviors and social roles align with what society labels as a "woman" — which does differ between cultures. I like to wear feminine clothing and makeup, I do things like cleaning and setting the table, I act pretty feminine, but not flamboyant, I have a lot of feminine mannerisms, etc. In Southern culture: cleaning and setting the table are seen as more womanly roles than they are up North, which is why I mention them.

So you’re a woman because you perform femininity as it’s prescribed by your culture? How is this not plain old sexism?

How do we tell the difference? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can’t deny I’ve seen a lot of dismissal and hand-waving of any and all concerns women have about the issues.

QT: Do you understand why women need single sex spaces? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If history serves, you’re pretty safe from much response now that ‘I am comfortable’ has been exhausted. She’s never gone much deeper than that. I wish she’d comment more if only so there’s more clues as to whether her stance comes from privileged ignorance or actual hatred of other women. The whole ‘prevention doesn’t prevent things’ stance has me thinking privileged ignorance. Truly fascinated tbh haha.

The rest of your comments will go ignored because it forces you to see the sexism and giant logic holes in libfem/qt arguments which is wrongthink.

QT: Do you understand why women need single sex spaces? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We can’t prevent anything (except transphobia lmao) She cannot be serious. You’d have to really either not believe the sexual violence stats or hate women to be able to dismiss a ~few rapes here and there~

QT: Do you understand why women need single sex spaces? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Always, always ‘well I’m not bothered so you need to feel differently about xyz’ from gb. It’s amazing how far liberal feminists will go in terms of undermining their own interests and the interests of other women in order to be socially acceptable to a group of men.

It’s incomprehensible, cutting off her nose to spite her face but her face here is women’s rights. Like..I guess fuck elderly women, religious women, shy women, or any other woman who isn’t okay with having men in every conceivable space there is.

Gotta admire the dedication to faith I guess? When belief trumps decades of crime stats and the words of a million other women it’s some damn deep faith

GC: What are your arguments against "lesbians and trans men are men in women's bodies" and "gay men and trans women are women in men's bodies"? by CuteAsDuck in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’d say that a similarity in brain structure between sexes have nothing to do with sex as it’s understood by everyone except qt and that any connection is one that is forced by a heteronormative bias.

The brain does not determine sex. A male brain is one in a male body. Lesbians have female brains because they are female. Their attraction to women is not a masculine trait and masculinity has absolutely nothing to do with lesbian sexuality.

Ok, it's time to update the rules by grixit in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

My suggestions for rules:

Holocaust/nazis are off limits. Comparisons are out. Implying similarity is out. Pretending we have ever killed anyone is out.

If you accuse someone of contributing to suicide, let’s make it a suicide that has happened and not one you’re imagining. Preferably include footage of when we supposedly kick out the chair.

I’d also like to remind tra posters about how the lack of rules is not as great for gc as they think. One of y’all was allowed to tell me I am a moral failure for not medically assisting my rapist after I broke his nose. Your side is allowed to defend rapists here with nothing more than a warning. We’re not getting special treatment.

QT: Do you support free speech? by pollyesther in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So how are babies made? Or do you mean categorising the sexes of a sexually reproducing species is biological truth?

QT: Who is trans “inclusive” language really for? by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Replacing well defined and understood medical terminology with the transgender paradigm is replacing biological sex with a social construct.

The transgender paradigm is a social construct and sex is observed biology.

GC: If a male were to play as a "female" character is the "female" character actually male, and vice versa? by Not_a_celebrity in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then you need to speak to a professional who can better explore an inability to seperate media from reality. This is genuinely concerning as it can be indicative of psychosis. Saidit cannot help with this. It requires a psychiatrist. Do you want some help locating one in your area?

GC: If a male were to play as a "female" character is the "female" character actually male, and vice versa? by Not_a_celebrity in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When Daniel Radcliffe dressed as Harry Potter, was he a real wizard? Do you think Lucy lawless is actually Xena?

QT- The intersex/hermaphroditism comparisons and examples by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Imo they know on some level just how absurd what they are arguing is, hence the immediate abandoning of their threads as soon as they are questioned.

Dismantling biology under a pseudointellectual moral campaign to protect archaic gender roles, and reframe feelings as sacred. All because it feels good when people on Twitter agree, giving a little serotonin boost. They aren’t here to actually discuss anything. They’re here in the hopes of another serotonin boost and so they inevitably dump their sermons and run when it’s questioned, cause the questions are a threat to the constant validation loop.

GC: Hermaphrodites in other animals show that sex, male and female, is man-made and a social construct that doesn't exist in other species by Not_a_celebrity in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sexual reproduction still exists if there are species that don’t do it. How on earth is sexual reproduction impacted by how a slug or a slime mold makes another slug or slime mold?

Would a chicken stop being a chicken if we didn’t evolve language? Or would the entire category of animal cease to exist? Would they suddenly start laying fertilised eggs without roosters around if we got rid of the names?

The categories are not invented. They are observed and recorded in an invented language.

Human sex can’t be forced to fit into the mating habits of a clownfish just because you want it to.

Women don’t pass as women all the time…what does this even mean? by Houseplant in GenderCritical

[–]Houseplant[S] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Right? What a stupid concept, women aren’t mistaken for men if we don’t slap on lipstick, or are fat, or are hairy. No definition of woman that isn’t ripped right out of twentieth century American stereotypes isn’t just rejected, it’s practically criminalised.

A well documented trend by Chunkeeguy in GenderCritical

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Clitaromegaly doesn’t look like a dick. The largest labia look nothing like testes. What a weak cope. They rely totally on the hopes that women are as ignorant as they are about women’s bodies.

Both: What do you think about the transgender incident at the Wi Spa in Los Angeles? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I’m imagining someone running past a park, totally starkers, and doing a handstand and a leg spread to the gods. Then I realised if a woman did that nobody at the park would have seen her vagina despite the efforts.

What question(s) do you want to ask a transgender person? by [deleted] in AskSaidIt

[–]Houseplant 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Hilarious my man.

Let’s discuss this casual throwing around of terms like ‘nazi’

by Houseplant to /s/GCdebatesQT from (self.GCdebatesQT)

Looking for both trans and GC people to work towards stopping predators from accessing our respective spaces by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So sex segregation? Keep males out regardless of their feelings or identity or outfit?

All: what is your opinion on tomboys? by FrogEnjoyer in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perfectly normal little girls being preyed upon by genderists for not enjoying pink/dollies/pretty as much as genderists believe they should.

It’s disgusting that anyone can look at a perfectly typical healthy child and decide she is some abomination who requires extreme medicalisation because she does not match their extremely narrow opinion of what girls should do.

Both: How do you feel about the terms "female man", "male man", "female woman", and "male woman"? by comradeconradical in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds silly, cause it is silly. Redundancies are not helpful to communication. It’s absolutely not more truthful or clear to say that “female men can get pregnant” than it is to say “women can get pregnant”.

There is yet to be a convincing reason to all of a sudden force gender to take over sex. Capitulating to silly language games like saying a nonsensical phrase such as “male women cannot get pregnant but female men can” isn’t finding even ground if it still requires all English speakers to perform an upheaval for a tiny group who can’t even explain why we must make the changes.

Identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’d love to know what powers you think we have to prevent anything, when children are receiving medical interference with puberty, penises are allowed to be exposed to little girls in changing rooms, and schools are teaching gender ideology, while we get death threats and rape threats for saying we don’t like that.

It doesnt matter how often you’re told that we are not the old men in power who think you’re just super gay who kept you out to start and we aren’t the old men in power making the puberty interruptions and the unisex change rooms now that it keeps them in power, does it?

Alleged Trans incident at upscale LA Spa may have been staged by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Houseplant 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes they are Besides, you always skip to language policing when you realise you fucked up and have made an argument that contradicts your past ones.

You will never control my language or thought. Kindly respond to my actual points, admit you have been proven wrong, or just don’t respond further if all you’ll be doing is making futile attempts to make me obey you.

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