You might have heard of ahs. Here is some information about that, and more info about reddit by exentrico in AgainstHateSubreddits

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Instead of linking to removeddit, just link to the archived version of the post instead. Removeddit is unfortunately too confusing for a lot of people.

r/AgainsthatesubReddits is a brigading sub that organizes attacks on subs they don’t like in order to get them banned. It’s disgusting but they go so far they post CP. by exentrico in AgainstHateSubreddits

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"I don't know how a sub of snowflakes have gained so much power and influence"

If you go back and read some of my posts in this sub you will see exactly how this happened. Bardfinn claims he knows and speaks to Reddit's CEO. Bardfinn's group of SJW vigilantes, The League of Extraordinary Trolls, were invited to Reddit HQs by one of Reddit's trans employees. It's all nepotism.

Bardfinn admits to stalking, infiltrating, and harassing subreddits and discords to drive users off Reddit by snappier in AgainstHateSubreddits

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"And I infiltrated the private discords and backroom subreddits", alright, so he openly admits he's literally a fucking cyberstalker.

"There's been death and bomb threats -- my local police bomb squad has had to clear my property because of the bomb threats.", I bet this never even happened.

"it's that they're the kinds of people we saw storming the Capitol on January 6th (and some of them might have been in the insurrection)", oh really, all these people were at the Capitol? When a majority of Redditors aren't actually even American? Bardfinn is public about the fact that after the last Reddit purge when most of the subreddits on his blacklist got banned, he has since moved on to targeting foreign language subreddits, so he damn well knows the people he's targeting now aren't even Americans.

"Ten women allege that a popular, members-only goth venue’s leadership ignored sexual misconduct among members at the club and its festivals" by ISaidWhatISaid in Gothic

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From the article:

An evening at the Goth club, where a cast of experimental artists performed eerie, sexually charged ceremonies each week in the back rooms of the Pig ’N Whistle bar, was a coveted invitation: an uninhibited, LGBTQ-friendly, members-only club where underground DJs, actors, rockers and adventurous partygoers could revel in safety and secrecy.

Is this evidence ContraPoints is obsessively following me here on Saidit? by ISaidWhatISaid in ContraPoints

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You're apparently a stan of his, so it doesn't surprise me that you'd come here and try to gaslight me about him cyberstalking me here. FYI, one of his /r/ContraPoints mod has made an account on this site.

QT: When you came out, did you write a coming-out statement, offline or online? by ISaidWhatISaid in GCdebatesQT

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Thank you very much for answering, you covered pretty much all bases there.

Youtuber Greta Aurora: "I spent a weekend with Marilyn Manson" by ISaidWhatISaid in Gothic

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This comment:

I feel the same sentiment, it's becoming counterproductive, this movement, it's being battered into our heads that we are completely helplessness, frail, childlike creatures without any responsibility. Western world is becoming crazy, the social media, news media. Although personally I do believe he spiraled out of control, listening to so many people coming out, his own bragging about violence. I was rooting for Evan when I heard about the Phoenix Act, because there shouldn't be such short time window for victims to come forward. But last few days, how she's going on about has started to change my mind. Instead of seeing actual proof, there's pictures of her in a nazi outfit as some sort of proof of Manson's abuse, sorry at 18 years old, or 16 years old, if someone wanted to dress me up as Hitler, or Stalin, I'd bite their face off, because my country was a battle ground for these two evil empires. Another, I don't like her saying that everyone around her is accountable for the abuse she endured, well as she could've bee charmed, so equally other people could've been charmed. So it's not fair to blame others. Also I'm pretty sure she'd defend him back them, if people did say something. Next, how she treated Dita. She proudly, openly showed off their relationship, rubbed it in Dita's face, while they were still married, that's not very nice a woman to another woman. And at 18 you should know better, because we do have conscience, no matter the age. I wouldn't want to hurt anyone like that. Lastly, I don't like her commenting on other people's allegations not related to her. Like this Armie Hammer thing, his girlfriend has released all their intimate Dom Sub sexts, so far that for me seems like revenge porn. We can't just jump and cancel a guy because a woman, who has posted all their intimate details online accuses him. I mean so far these are only allegations on Instagram. But Evan already is posting about it, as we would know for sure. I'm a woman, but I also have been blackmailed with revenge porn. And it triggered me, as I fond that very abusive. If he raped her, than yes, he needs to go to jail. But how can we tell by their master slave texts what is real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbvEGU-S4B0&lc=UgzVR1zx1XJiggyGPbh4AaABAg

QT: When you came out, did you write a coming-out statement, offline or online? by ISaidWhatISaid in GCdebatesQT

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Thank you for your answer.

QT: When you came out, did you write a coming-out statement, offline or online? by ISaidWhatISaid in GCdebatesQT

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I am really sorry about your terrible experiences. Thank you for responding anyway.

QT: When you came out, did you write a coming-out statement, offline or online? by ISaidWhatISaid in GCdebatesQT

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Thank you for sharing.

QT: When you came out, did you write a coming-out statement, offline or online? by ISaidWhatISaid in GCdebatesQT

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Thank you for your response.

Curators Assess Damage to Capitol Artworks in Wake of Mob Storming - While the majority of the building’s historical paintings & sculptures escaped harm, several works were vandalized or destroyed & some may have been looted. by ISaidWhatISaid in Art

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Among the works stolen, damaged, or defaced are a nineteenth-century marble bust of Zachary Taylor, the twelfth president of the United States, who died in office in 1850; the sculpture was splashed with a substance that appeared to be blood. An evacuated picture frame found lying near the bust suggests that the image once contained within was removed; additionally, video posted to social media outlets by participants in the mob shows one man jamming a framed photograph of the Dalai Lama into a backpack, and another tearing up what appears to be a scroll bearing Chinese characters.

"the storming of the Capitol is among the most-documented mass crimes in history. Much of the evidence was provided by the defendants themselves, who posted their criminal activity on social media." by ISaidWhatISaid in politics

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What does this comment have to do with what I just posted? Are you sure you're responding to the right post?

"the storming of the Capitol is among the most-documented mass crimes in history. Much of the evidence was provided by the defendants themselves, who posted their criminal activity on social media." by ISaidWhatISaid in politics

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(...) tech companies like Facebook and Google are holding a wealth of information that would make it much easier to identify the insurrectionists than would a public relations campaign aimed at publishing images of wrongdoers one by one.

“We’re all carrying tiny tracking devices with us all the time, and people aren’t necessarily conscious of the extent to which that information is obtainable from a variety of sources,” said Julian Sanchez, a senior fellow at Cato and an expert on technology, privacy and civil liberties."

Anyone who was located inside the Capitol - unless they were a credentialed reporter, Capitol Hill staffer or a guest of a member of Congress - was committing a crime simply by being present, whether they entered through a broken window or followed the mob through the door. Even the thousands of people on the lawn and steps of the U.S. Capitol were breaking the law when they followed the violent mob that broke down barriers that had been manned by U.S. Capitol Police officers on the perimeter. That makes them easier to prosecute than protesters who have a right to be on a public street.

FACT-CHECK: How large is Bardfinn's Reddit wrongthinker database REALLY? "I run a neo-Nazi / white supremacist / violent troll tracking database with 30,000+ enties." by ISaidWhatISaid in AgainstHateSubreddits

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There has been a lot of speculation over the years as to whether he's secretly working under the table for Reddit, especially in the context of his statements about knowing Reddit's CEO u/spez personally. Nothing definitive though. I personally think that Reddit are keeping him around because he is doing a lot of work for free that they would otherwise have to hire and pay people to do. Also, the fact that he's keeping a secret blacklist database of Reddit wrongthinkers means that he gets to break international privacy laws, instead of Reddit themselves. Thus, if anyone ever ends up asking any pointed questions - about this nut who falsely claims to be "a retired scientist" doing supposed "research" on Reddit, while profiling Redditors without any prior notice or consent - Reddit can always decide to throw Bardfinn under the bus then, while they still get off the hook scot-free. Reddit can throw their hands up and lie that they didn't know what the League of Extraordinary Trolls were doing on their site, when they knew all along exactly what was happening.

Response to Repzilla's second video about Adora BatBrat: the Youtube Drama Community doesn't understand anything about the gothic subculture by ISaidWhatISaid in Gothic

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Hey TheTasteOfEspionage, thank you for sharing your thoughts. The reason I brought up the Sisters of Mercy t-shirt that said "fuck me and marry me young" is that, if you're going down the slippery slope of political correctness, that t-shirt too could be constituted as sexist or misogynistic or making fun of child brides, or making light of the infantilization of women. Once you get into that politically correct outrage-mindset, anything can appear to be offensive, including a band t-shirt with the statement "fuck me and marry me young.".

With regards to goths jumping on the band wagon of political correctness, denouncing supposed racism in goth (of which there is very little, but I guess when your head is a hammer everything is a potential nail) and declaring their support of BLM, What is the difference between this "listening to right wing bands will eventually turn you into a raving killing Nazi", and "watching BDSM movies will eventually make you rape and torture people and turn you into a literal Jack the Ripper"? Pray do tell, what is the difference between the two? I can definitely see the hypocrisy here in the one-sided slippery slope argument being made here. If you're gonna argue that things can become a slippery slope, why stop at condemning right wing bands? Go ahead and condemn all the gothic metal bands that have Christian iconography, since the Christian Church has killed millions around the world surpassing even the Nazis in kill-count. Metallica have a song called Creeping Death based on the story from the Old Testament, perhaps they are implicitly endorsing Israel's zionism and the killing of Palestinians in an act of crypto-islamophobia? Seriously, when you get on your moral high horse to ride it into the dark night, when/where do you stop? Nothing is ever politically correct enough for the politically correct purist.

I am still of the belief that these people denouncing Aurora's offensiveness completely misunderstand and misrepresent what the subculture gothic set out to accomplish for decades, which a form of radical individualism that is directly at odds with the aims of the SJW censorfascists. Anti-racism and progressive politics are nobel goals for sire, but that's not what the SJW censorfascists want, they just want to pull on people's heartstrings for the sake of gaining power and control. I am willing to bet these people denouncing Aurora have never really listened to or studied the lyrics of albums like Antichrist Superstar or Holy Wood. I know you're gonna say Manson is not gothic, but Manson was the gateway drug for a lot millennial goths. Manson's music was all about encouraging people to recognize the little Hitler inside themselves rather than projecting a holier-than-thou attitude like the author of this article. Instead of examining their own fascistic tendencies, these SJWs have absolved themselves of any blame simply because they assume themselves to have the right opinions and couldn't possibily be wrong. Manson had a chapter in his autobiography, The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions, a truism that is entirely lost on these self-righteous SJW censorfascists. I, at the age of 40, have no time to entertain this kind of SJW holier than thou purity-policing BS. I totally support Nargal's right to wear anti-Antifa shirts if he wants to - I particularly identify with Nargal (whose music I have posted in this sub) at a very deep level because like him I too spent most of 30s in the courts with ignorant malicious SJWs who wanted to censor me for speaking my truth. I also supported people's right to wear a "Jesus Is a Cunt" Cradle of Filth t-shirt back in the 1990s, no matter how much that offended the fundies. SJW censorfascists have no place in art and are the enemies of everything art aspires to and stands for. Rather than demanding that we unite against politician X and in favour of cause Y, I suggest we unite against these SJW censorfascists and put an end to their censorship under the guise of concern-trolling before it spreads like a plague through the arts. For if these SJWs get their way, you will not be able to speak out against politician X or in favour of cause Y when you personally want to if you allow such censorfascists to set the agenda for a whole movement.

I feel that gothic Youtubers and public figures, like for example Angela Benedict in her recent video, disingenously deny that Eurocentrism as a form white supremacy has always been part of the gothic subculture's DNA, and pretend that simplying denying this is how to declare yourself in allyship with blacks. Does Angela Benedict, who insists "blacks have always been part of gothic", actually read some of the comments left under her video by black people in goth?

Random black guy here. I've never seen another black person at a goth music event other than myself. I've never seen another black person who visually appears to be a goth. I've never seen a black person in any goth band except for the dude that was with The Cure way back in the day. Someone tell me some of these other bands so I can explore this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcbDVRADfF4&lc=UgzTsk2wGIQ5KrRK6894AaABAg

There would not have been white gothic music without black/Carribean dub music and you can quote me on this. The prominent bass that is so typical to gothic music is 100% derived from dub bass line. Just listen to She's In Parties, that's undeniably a dub riff.

However, white supremacy and Eurocentrism have also always been part of goth's DNA and it would be extremely disingenuous to deny this enduring aspect of the gothic timeline. Look for example at how respected the racist artist Allerseelen was in the gothic scene in the late 1990s/early aughts. No one ever called him out on his "Blood and Soil" bullshit when I was younger, even though his views were widely known. In fact, I myself once had a ballet review rejected from a website because I took a dance company to task for dancing to his music. I paid the price for calling out racism before it became profitable and acceptable to do so. I therefore laugh at all these SJWs-come-lately like Angela who only decided that they had a problem with racism in the goth scene when it became safe and cool to do so under the banner of woke culture.

I obviously don't know what your race is, but if you are a white person, go right ahead and become a cheerleader for BLM when you know they hate you just for being white, no matter how anti-racist your trackrecord consistently has been. Oh, and you don't get to claim any credentials for having an Asian or any other non-European ancestor with BLM, because Asians/Hispanics are now all of a sudden considered white too, and racist. In parting, I would encourage you to watch the following two video clips, if you can find the time:

https://twitter.com/GlennLoury/status/1343976246099775493

https://twitter.com/GlennLoury/status/1336823034393530368

Wolfsheim - Once in a lifetime (1998) by ISaidWhatISaid in Gothic

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OK, it's obviously not strictly gothic but I think it would fit well into a gothic list.

BACH: Erbarme dich (St. Matthew Passion) - A cappella arrangement for 6 Mezzo-Sopranos by ISaidWhatISaid in ClassicalMusic

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Really weird version that's kinda spooky.

Nocturnal Playground - Desert in the Ocean (1992) by ISaidWhatISaid in Gothic

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Atari Teenage Riot - Delete Yourself (1995) by ISaidWhatISaid in 90s

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ATR in 1995: "1984 is a joke when you see where we are 10 years later!"

2020s: Oh bitch if only you knew...

Blumfeld - Draußen auf Kaution by muellermeierschulz in 90s

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OMG I how loved this album (L'Etat Et Moi) as a teenager, so so much! So many great songs on this album: Jet Set, 2 oder 3 Dinge, die ich von Dir weiß, Eine eigene Geschichte, Verstärker, Sing Sing, Superstarfighter. I saw them live too, what a great live band!

FACT-CHECK: How large is Bardfinn's Reddit wrongthinker database REALLY? "I run a neo-Nazi / white supremacist / violent troll tracking database with 30,000+ enties." by ISaidWhatISaid in AgainstHateSubreddits

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It's amazing to me how Reddit are ignoring this. He is literally violating their own stated rules, not just by abusing his access to the API to trawl entire subreddits. There is the question of notice and consent. When people log into Reddit, they consent to Reddit themselves using their data. They do not consent to unofficial third parties like Bardfinn secretly politically profiling them behind their backs. If anyone was made a-priori aware of this happening, no one in their right mind would ever agree to use Reddit ever again. It is therefore pattently unacceptable that Reddit never warned users about this happening and never took steps to make it stop. Then there is the very high likelihood that by secretly trawling Redditors' data and using it in such a blatantly abusive manner behind their backs - using people's posts to get them pre-emptively banned across the site is arguably a form of abuse - he is literally violating international privacy laws. To give you an actual example of such an international privacy law that comes into play, in Europe they have a law, the GDPR, which says that you cannot log and use a European internet user's data online without prior notice given and consent obtained, which Bardfinn of course has never bothered to obtain from all the European Redditors he's secretly data-mining and blacklisting for the purpose of getting them banned site-wide. If you look at some of my other posts here in the sub, you will see the one where Bardfinn asked Reddit to allow him to use subreddits as honeypots in order to get all the wrongthinkers in one place so that it's like shooting fish in a barrel, which would constitute outrageous deception and abuse even by Reddit standards. Reddit are aware of these laws, they know he's breaking the law and they just don't care. I guess it's because he's doing work for them they'd otherwise have to do themselves, and they're happy that this zealot with no life is taking all this excess work onto him. But Reddit are thus aware of the fact that they are aiding and abetting him in violating international privacy laws like the GDPR, which makes them complicit IMO.

Bardfinn's account on Ruqqus - because after you've gotten rid of all the Nazis on Reddit, you must follow them off-site out of sheer boredom & feelings of uselessness by ISaidWhatISaid in AgainstHateSubreddits

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He doesn't have a life, that's why he was able to make himself indepensable to Reddit. He's effectively an unpaid moderator at this point, he openly bragged about how Reddit's hate-categories are identical to the ones he's already using himself (because he and Reddit are obviously coordinating behind the scenes, they just don't want this to be known). IRL, he's lost every job he's had (claims it was due to "burn out" but if it was because he was trying to make his workplace go "woke" like he's doing on Reddit, we all know the real reason he's jobless now), been divorced twice, been hospitalized for mental illness twice by his own admission. He claims to have multiple mental illnesses including agoraphobia, so he doesn't even leave his house. He sits there all day obsessively trawling Reddit and blacklisting all the natsees. It's mentally ill people with no families, no work and no lives like him that obsess over petty crap like that.

QT: Why is rejection of gender seen as discrimination? by adungitit in GCdebatesQT

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Your argument seems to be that if the law accepts one backwards notion, that all the other ones should be expected to be accepted as well.

That's exactly what the law does presently. The law doesn't differentiate between one religion being less backwards than another but accepts them all as valid belief choices under the principle of freedom of religion.

Misogyny and racial discrimination aren't particularly different from religion or gender ideologies in what you said, and yet we have laws against them

And yet we don't have laws banning the concept of religion or the concept of gender outright. Also, the assumption that gender is inherently a harmful concept akin to misogyny or racial discrimination is a feminist ideological point, not an academic point. Academics on the other hand have long held the opinion that different societies around the globe have different gender norms, not all of which are to the detriment of women. For example, the fact that most societies expect women to become mothers and organize themselves around this expectation is not due to "misogyny" (as an anti-natalist feminist would argue) because at present most women do want to become women, even in Western countries where they have the option not to, so it makes sense for societies to expect most women to become mothers and to organize themselves anticipating that this gendered expectation will be the case for most females in that society.

Lastly I am not vaguely referring to a law in theory, I am referring to an actual legal precedent, one that is referred to in almost every subsequent trans rights related case:

https://www.aclu.org/legal-document/schroer-v-library-congress-decision

Go and read it for yourself. The judge compares a gender transition to someone changing their religion, and says that someone should be allowed to change their gender the same way someone is allowed to change their religion. The fact that both gender and relgion have no basis in reality is irrelevant to this judge.

Things you will never learn from a ContraPoints video #BloodOnTheirHands by ISaidWhatISaid in ContraPoints

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The judgment concluded that it is highly unlikely that a child aged 13 or under would ever be Gillick competent to give consent to being treated with puberty blockers and very doubtful that children aged 14 and 15 could understand the long-term risks and consequences of treatment in such a way as to have sufficient understanding to give consent.

In our intervention, we submitted evidence that the GIDS operates within a core illogicality: a belief that biological sex is irrelevant to being a boy or being a girl, while providing a service that is predicated on the existence of, and ability to define, a ‘boy body’ and a ‘girl body’ that children might move between through medication and subsequent surgery. This is of course an impossibility, but it is an outcome that children are led to believe is possible.

The court judgment referenced the fact that in 2011 the gender split was roughly 50/50 between natal girls and boys but by 2019 the sex ratio had changed so that 76 per cent of referrals were females, but that the Tavistock did not put forward any clinical explanation as to why there had been this significant change in the patient group over a relatively short period of time.

This is not surprising: denial of biological sex prevents analysis on the basis of biological sex, including the specific experiences and pressures faced by female adolescents as compared to males. The lack of curiosity at the GIDS is easily explained if children are viewed through the dehumanising lens of ‘gender identity’. This also explains the apparent lack of concern about the serious physical effects of this treatment: if biological sex is irrelevant then future sexual function and fertility must also be unimportant.

The judgment is a damning indictment of clinical practice at the GIDS. The case was decided on facts and evidence known to the Tavistock, and ultimately on the lack of facts and the weakness of the evidence in the Tavistock’s defence. The GIDS lacked even basic data on children who had been given puberty blockers.

The most damning evidence of complacency in the service is the fact that the GIDS offers troubled adolescents no alternative therapeutic treatment pathway. Far from being a last resort treatment, blockers and hormones are the only treatment for children with complex histories and mental health conditions. This is the result of a service that operates on the basis of ideology in place of clinical standards. The judgment raises the issue of medical negligence and our immediate concern is for the children who have already been through this medical system.

Proper therapeutic pathways need to be developed within a psychoanalytical model that can be delivered by professionals already trained in counselling troubled young people. Children must be treated as children, not as political mascots for an ideology. ‘Gender identity’ must be removed from the UKCP Memorandum of Understanding on Conversion Therapy, and therapists and counsellors must be given back their freedom to do their jobs properly and offer children a normal duty of care.

BLOODONTHEIRHANDS