Stripped of women’s records, transgender powerlifter asks, ‘Where do we draw the line?’ (Great comments section) by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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invalidating my gender

I thought sports were not about validation

a year ago

In power lifting even if it was 15 years ago, man will still be much stronger, but yeah. In 43 started transitioning and already "beat all female records".

"Book about lesbian sex - Girl Sex 101" - on cover 40% of "lesbians" are men, book have whole chapters about PiV and PiA sex by ZveroboyAlina in LGBDropTheT

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So everyone will be asking why there is a dog and forget main complaints.

Why It’s Transphobic to Deny Attraction to Transgender People - an article that I found. What a load of bullshit. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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or they don’t respect personal space.

LOL. Isn't it hypocritical to write this in an article about invasion into someone else's personal space?

Gay-hater televangelist Pat Robertson comes out in support of transgenders (bc better a "girl" than a gay boy, amirite?!?!?) by BEB in LGBDropTheT

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Leader of one of the churches in my country said the same, that "we got Covid-19 because acceptance of gay relationships increased" and said that "we should help transgender people, because it is Devil messing up with God's plan and putting female souls in male bodies". Interesting that lesbians or transmen weren't even mentioned by him.

So many religious right-wingers are supporting trans case.

Philosophy Tube is coming out as a woman. Do heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals & bisexuals in the LGBTQ movement yet? by SnowAssMan in LGBDropTheT

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No man can have hip sway like woman, we have biologically different bones in that part. Our pelvis is much more wide than men's pelvis and leg bones are connected into loose joints on bigger angle, while men's are connected on fixed joints on much lower angle. When woman makes one step - pelvis on one side goes down and forward, on other side goes up and backwards because of that, so each side makes full circle. When man makes a step - pelvis and leg bones are not moving at all. That is one of reasons why men are much faster at running - just bone structure already making it easier to walk or run to them, and it is not even counting more strenght they have.

That is why it is almost always easy to distinguish between man and woman gaits. Transition "to other gender" is not changing pelvis, joints and bones - so everything is staying same as of a man.

TiMs tries calling lesbians "transphobic" on LSA. Bonus quote from TiM: "You will never ever ever ever ever be more woman than a transgender woman" by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Imagine being upset that women are called women? And then they are trying to say that trans movement is not misogyny?

No one is forcing you yet by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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On frame with genitals only male genitals? Author is transphobic and forgot about transmen! They are so obviously only supporting transwomen in lesbian spaces. Lmao.

"Following stereotypes is transphobic"

So transgenders themselves are transphobic? As they follow them very strictly.

'he/him & they/them lesbians - a quick guide' the fuck is this? by lovelyspearmint in LGBDropTheT

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Bigger problem is that goverments actually listened to them all.

'Brokeback Mountain' - the queer story of a trans romance by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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There so many straight romances, and they are coming for the only few gay or lesbian ones. Trully homophobic ideology.

Grammarly and GLAAD's "are you using the right LGBT words?" clusterfuck. Apparently "homosexual" is bad so you should use "gay" instead... but also, "gay marriage" is bad and you should use "same sex marriage" instead. Huh?! by OPPRESSED_REPTILIAN in LGBDropTheT

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Instead of "biologically female use assigned at birth"

So shitty that such big LGBTQ+ organisations are so hateful towards intersex people.

Assigning at birth is a medical malpractice which no longer performed. I am victim of one, and it is extremely annoying to hear people using it and even more annoying when big organizations are promoting this bullshit.

Your average LGBT+ organisations by VioletRemi in LGBDropTheT

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LGBT = Lets Glorify Beloved Trans.

Vanessa Vokey's video called "Samantha Lux is not a woman" has been removed by Youtube for "harassment & bullying" by SnowAssMan in GenderCritical

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Sometimes it becomes scary how much power transwomen hold over media and politicians.

Yesterday around 10 lesbians on Twitter I was following were banned, most of them for stating that they will not date a transwoman because they are lesbians and can't be attracted to them by definition. And all were removed same day - so most likely there was wave of mass reporting from side of transwomen. Accounts that dehumanize lesbians, or even porn accounts about us - are all still up, regardless of my reports.

What other "marginalized" group have such huge power and such authoritharian methods? It only shows how not-women they are, as men listening to them and acting so fast.

I'm really glad this sub is bipartisan by Lesbianese in LGBDropTheT

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I really dislike them having downvotes. Topics about veganism showed why Saidit or Twitter formats are much better - if ratio between upvotes and comments is high, means it is bad or controversial topic. Everyone goes and voices their opinions, instead of just silently mass downvoting without reasoning why.

Youtube added word "homosexual" to profanity filter as it was supposedly proposed by unnamed LGBTQ organizations by ColoredTwice in LGBDropTheT

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Remember that dictionary saying that "homosexual" is homophobic word?

And, I don't remember who, I think GLAAD said that "homosexuals is a slur and used as anti-LGBTQ+ phrase". Yeah, homosexuality is clearly makes TQ+ ideology look stupid, so they hate LGB.

Philosophy Tube is coming out as a woman. Do heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals & bisexuals in the LGBTQ movement yet? by SnowAssMan in LGBDropTheT

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What you described is just performative - it has nothing to do with skeletal structure. We can't change how our bones, joints and skeletal structure are. It is just how two sexest are born - it is inherent structure of our bodies that is different between sexes and can't be changed. Even muscles around our hips are placed differently in men's and women's bodies. There a lot of such small differences which are structural and can't be changed.

Same as lungs or hearts of same size and height man and woman would be different size and shape. Men's would be bigger/larger. This can't be changed by taking cross sex hormones or by "performin femininity". It is just basic structure of body.

Here, short video someone recently posted about gait and pelvis bones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEZrNLagwls

2000s vs. 2020s by ANIKAHirsch in LGBDropTheT

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Men in dresses, burning books. Nothing new.

Grammarly and GLAAD's "are you using the right LGBT words?" clusterfuck. Apparently "homosexual" is bad so you should use "gay" instead... but also, "gay marriage" is bad and you should use "same sex marriage" instead. Huh?! by OPPRESSED_REPTILIAN in LGBDropTheT

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Where I live now - word "queer" is used either mockingly against gnc men or as a slur against feminine gay men.

Why It’s Transphobic to Deny Attraction to Transgender People - an article that I found. What a load of bullshit. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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So everyone owe sex to men by their logic? And saying "no" is hateful? I guess rape is not a crime then?

I've begun mostly using "same-sex" or "homosexual" instead of any other similar term by dilsency in LGBDropTheT

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Now being homosexual is being political?

Please Stop Bringing DSDs/VSCs Into The Convo About Trans by MarkTwainiac in GenderCritical

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I answered there around deletion time, so most likely no one read. Here my answer:

First of all, there never both gonades functioning. So we can't be "both". It is impossible - we are always either male or female. We never "both".

Assigning at birth was medical malpractice that was often leading to IGM. Nowadays a lot of where it is either outlawed or thought as malpractice and not encouraged.

Second - in USA there are transgender and non-binary people around 3-10 times more than all intersex people, so even if all intersex people would be trans - we would be minority there. And in reality few years ago only around 0.8-1% of intersex people were trans.

Lastly, knowing sex is very important for our treatment and to know what complications we can have later in life. My condition (salt-wasting CAH) in heavy cases like mine require to identify sex in first 3 hours of life, or toddler will die (or become disabled if treatment was too late or wrong). Previously only boys were often surviving with it, but girls dying - because our bigger virilized clitoris was looking "similar to small penis", so we were receiving treatment for boys (plus treatment for boys can wait up to 10-14 hours, while for girls only 2-4). And when medicine came to realization that we are just your regular females with virilized body - most girls are now saved as well. And speaking about genitals - no, my bigger clitoris is not "male genitalia". It works like any other clitoris, just bigger in size and it does not work like penis at all - I can't pee throught it, I can't ejaculate at all, and so on. I am your typical woman, just looking a bit more masculine. That's it.

Best description will be - we are like people with congenital heart disease, but instead of heart we have issues with sexual development. We aren't some mythical beast.

There 40 different DSD's under this umbrella. All very different.

Try following on Twitter @zaelefty (and his youtube channel), @AlexAlicit or @RaeUK for more details, they often discussing such issues and linking studies.

Lesbians scissoring is transmisogynistic by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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K-Pop are making lesbian-baiting often. By contracts k-pop stars can't date or marry any man, so they are often flirting with each other instead.

When you come for SuperStraight men and don't learn your lesson. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Lesbians saying this about trans movement for decades, but it need one straight white boy/man to kickstart pushback on transgender's infringement of sexual boundaries. Shows how women and especially lesbians are completely ignored by society.

PHILOSOPHY TUBE speaks for all women when she tweets: “Black women get called mannish and aggressive, south Asian girls get belittled for having hair on their faces - the gender cops are out for all of us and there’ll be no trans liberation without WOC liberation” /s by BEB in GenderCritical

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Oh, so that is who it was. A week "as woman" and already mansplaining oppression of women to women?

she

He.

It is so racist to say that black women are manly and that if they are considered women, then men can be women too.

How the LGB community sees trans women... by PeakingPeachEater in LGBDropTheT

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Do you believe people should or should not transition? Why or why not?

Most people who are going full transition - are homosexual. Most studies are showing that transition either not helps or helps only slightly. So I am against transition except very rare cases.

As the LGB, what would you like for the T to know or do for your group to support you?(talking about regular T, like gender non-conforming folks or homosexual transexuals, not the...autogynephiles).

Call out AGP's, call out agressive allies, speak out at loud against kid transitioning, destroying of sex based protections and lesbian erasure.

Do you know many in your circle that transitioned and are either part of the L, G, or B? What is the story behind that?

All full transitioned people I know are homosexual men.

Have YOU been pressured to transition or be apart of the "queer" community?

Yes, but has nothing to do with queer movement. It was in the end of 80s in USSR. Homosexuality was against the law. I was born with ambigious genitalia as was born with congenital disorders of sexual development (cDSD, intersex). Doctors made tests and found ovaries, so assigned me as female ("assigning at birth" is medical malpractice used against intersex children, it is not practiced anymore). Because of that they decided to pump me with estrogenes - this started my puberty earlier than it should (so I am very short in a country of tall women), later they found out that I am lesbian. At first they decided I like femininity and tried to make me date feminine boys (I was like age of 14, but almost at the end of puberty), as they thought lesbianism is about liking femininity, not females. When it failed, they tried to "cure" my lesbianism other way around - they decided to re-assign me as a male, and thought they just made mistake in childhood. So they started pumping me with testosterone for a year and I was referring to myself as "he" (our language is gendered so every time you speak about yourself, you are using words that reveal your sex). Then USSR crashed and homosexuality stopped being "pathology" anymore in my country and this stopped. I went back on estrogene for a year. I am almost half a century old now, but still have facial hair from that testosterone "treatment". I am basically "detransitioner", even thought I don't think like that about myself. I can get pregnant, so I am female, to clarify.

It is one of reasons why I dislike this movement. It uses rhetorics and methods of homophobic conservative countries.

When do you predict the "T" will be dropped from the "LGB"?

Not any time soon. 5-10 years. And most likely HSTS would stay...

The agony and the irony by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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They always did. At least I have an experience with that.

Ok, so what happens when LGB people criticize trans ideology, GLAAD? by julesburm1891 in LGBDropTheT

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GLAAD?

You mean that organization who mentioned lesbians ZERO times in their yearly reports?

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/7pyp/your_average_lgbt_organisations/

Philosophy Tube is coming out as a woman. Do heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals & bisexuals in the LGBTQ movement yet? by SnowAssMan in LGBDropTheT

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You are saying that "acting like female" and "feminine mannerism" is biological? It kinda...sexist - against this feminists were fighting for decades, as women can be different and we are not some sexist stereotype. While TRA now are trying to say that all sexist stereotypes are natural and biological.

Disgusting sub made by men and women fetish corrective rape on lesbians by babouch in Lesbians

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/r/BiologicalLesbians had less subs and was banned in few weeks as hate sub, but this one is still up and growing? Loos like "being nice to women" is seen as "hate" on Reddit.

“Because most forms require Male or Female I, a non-binary person, am unable to make purchases or apply for jobs.” by alttrawl in GenderCritical

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In my country two decades ago no one would even look at woman engineer or manager side, so women were filling their resume with male names to even have a chance.

And now this joke of a person is saying that they are oppressed because there no "millionth gender" checkbox? Amount of privileges this person have is over the roof.

GC: How to know the sex of an intersex person? Are intersex people not 100% male or female? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

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Most of this was answered in previous such threads.

And Collin said a bit different thing to what you are presenting he said. He said we are not typical male or female, not that we are neither.

Intersex is an umbrella term to a 40 very different conditions. All but 2 are happening only to one sex (and to be honest even those 2 are only visible on females). It is 0.18% of population shared by 40 conditions. Majority of conditions are unambigiously male or female.

Few where it is not that clear (like mine) are requiring few extra tests, to check:

  1. Working gonades or gonade leftovers.

  2. Genotype - SRY gene is checked (so XY without SRY can be considered female, as Y did no changes to organism and organism developed as female, but with some health issues).

  3. Genitals.

  4. Phenotype.

  5. Natural hormonal level and hormonal sensitivity.

For few very rare conditions can be done some extra testings, but those are depending on specific person and are different each time.

For example, my condition is deadly if not treated after birth and males with females need different treatment, so when I was born with virilized body and enlargened clitoris, I was sent for screening, they found working ovaries and they gave me treatment for a correct sex, saving my life. And it happened almost 50 years ago in second-world country. Today healthcare is even better at this. Plus males and females have different complications and need different additional treatment (I got early Secondary PCOS and taking contraceptive pills to treat hormonal imbalace) - similar to all other people of same sex. And treatment needed by us is similar to other people of same sex.

Is intersex a disorder? Isn't it bigotry to call intersex people disordered or tell them they have a disorder? We mean something is wrong with them or their body, which sounds dehumanizing?

Why it is bigotry?

We all have health issues which require treatment. It is very important to know it and not ignore treatment and just saying "they are other sex and need no intervention" - will kill many of us.

And isn't disagreeing with transgender identities racist?

Transgender identity is not a race.

There have been many cultures that had a similar concept to transgender. They had third genders in these cultures, and that's where transgenders get their idea of gender identity from. Isn't it disrespectful to these cultures to disagree with transgender identities?

No. Transgender people of today are not from those cultures and not following those cultures standarts. "Third genders" there had no voice, were not allowed in female spaces, were mostly doing housewife job or were taking care of kids. Transwomen of today are not doing any of this. And transmen analogues did not existed until 20th century.

All those cultures were not saying that man becomes a woman. All those cultures were strongly patriarchical and those "third genders" were almost always homosexual, infertile or weak men. They were below men, but above women in social status. They were doing jobs meant for men and women, while regular men were not doing "women's housework". Very often those "third genders" were castrated or sterelized in other means.

Those third genders were always very homophobic practices. Like in modern Iran.

I am myself victim of similar practices - was put on testosterone to "cure" my lesbianism.

On the other hand - transgender activists exploiting and misrepresenting those cultures is racism.

Los Angeles Times - "California prisons grapple with hundreds of transgender inmates requesting new housing (in WOMEN'S PRISONS)" BARBARIC. by BEB in GenderCritical

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When they said "transfer was received well" and meant only well for transgenders, but women weren't even asked.

Like in that article about 200 girls dropping sports and coming at meeting against twaw in sports - because boy comes there, says he is tw and showers with them. Interview there was taken only from boy and his mother, but never from girls or their psrents.

I was watching The Queen's Gambit and immediately noticed the man posing as a female in the first episode. (Very minor spoilers.) by Nonime in GenderCritical

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I thought that sort of thing wasn't allowed nowadays.

Not allowed other way around. There were even few scandals that "cis people can't play trans, they don't understand".

gay

Gay are now in "cis" camp. Not cool. Only cool "gays" are straight transes (transwoman with penis and woman, or transman without surgery with man).

The irony when game against fascism becomes fascist itself by removing character from it for "being transphobic in Twitter somewhere in the past" and silencing everyone who disagree by VioletRemi in GenderCritical

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Ubisoft

I think I've heard this company in news previously, with dozens or hundreds of sexual assaults on women in it. It is clear that they don't care about women at all.

TIMs "Reclaiming" Adult Human Female Hashtag on Twitter by alttrawl in GenderCritical

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how many of the think

Looks like vast majority. They are no different from men.

A transwoman's objection to gay male spaces by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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It was already like that with women's toilets and prisons - non-binaries, transmen and transwomen all were prefering them over men's. Now tides strikes men's places too. Seems they want access to everything they want.

Please Stop Bringing DSDs/VSCs Into The Convo About Trans by MarkTwainiac in GenderCritical

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And speaking about this post topic - I can't even understand why trans ideologists are using us as cannon fodder - as in any case possible we are not proving anything.

  1. As only very small amount of trans people are intersex.

  2. Even if we are 3rd or 4th sex - it is not proving that one sex can be changed to other.

  3. If we were "assigned wrongly", it is still was found because of physical complications and tests later, not based on our feelings. And, again - only very small amount of trans people are "intersex".

In no way it proves their point, but at same time dehumanizes us.

What are your thoughts on and arguments against these articles that say there is no such a thing as a male or female body? by Not_a_celebrity in GenderCritical

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And even edge cases are proving nothing, even in their interpretation.

Lets say they can prove that I am third sex - how does this will prove that male can become female? Where is third gamete?

Lets say they showing results of medical malpractice - wrongly assigned sex at birth, because doctor was not bothered enough for more tests, and so doctor performed IGM. And then later in life because of hormonal issues doctors were forced to do tests and observe that they made a mistake. So now what it has to do with males who want to be females? They aren't intersex, they had no ambigious genitals or chromosome issues, they today don't have hormonal and biological issues which will show they aren't male. Duch cases prove nothing to trans ideology.

And yet, they are using our condition as meat shield, making people to be misinformed or to hate us.

Teen Vogue promotes rape porn to teen girls and says women can enjoy it and that it is "feminist" thing to do. What an actual fk? by ColoredTwice in GenderCritical

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That is not just "ethical porn", but "ethical non-consensual porn" - so it either filmed without women's consent, or it is filmed rape. And they are promoting this as something good and something that teen girl would enjoy watching or experiencing. It is just grooming.

I would not be surprised if article is written by same transwoman who wrote "anal sex for teen girls" article in Vogue few years ago, and who forgot (or never knew in the first place) that clitoris exist at all.

I was watching The Queen's Gambit and immediately noticed the man posing as a female in the first episode. (Very minor spoilers.) by Nonime in GenderCritical

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And as "expert" he represents women and women needs? Then nothing strange that nothing is improving for actual women, as this guy can't know whqt we may need or what we think.

GC (but anyone can comment): Why are women more supportive of trans rights than men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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It is much easier for woman to lose her job for liking JKRowling tweet than to man who is openly transphobic.

It is even seen on reddit or facebook. TrueLesbians subreddit was banned for them not accepting penises, while AskGayBros is still up, while having openly anti-trans position.

So even if women are against - they are just removed from an equasion or called TERF and ignored.

GC: How would you feel if people insisted changing language of men's health? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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And taking away men's rights and spaces?

Then all this movement will be stopped on an instant.

A transwoman's objection to gay male spaces by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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If they can opt out of "being women", then why they are allowed in women's spaces? They can opt out in it and become dangerous even by their own logic.

Women getting banned from saidit too by Maeven in GenderCritical

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Banned for what?

I am pretty sure some men are getting banned as well.

GC: Are we reducing people to their reproductive organs/ability? Is gender identity a mental illness? And if so, what are the similarities between gender identity and other mental illnesses? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

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they have this sense of self that we don’t understand or relate to because we aren’t trans

It always was confusing me: if they have some inner sense of being woman and feeling like a woman, but no other woman have it - aren't this means they are not a woman, as their sense of self is different to all women and separates them as a clear distinguished group?

GC: Male and female sex organs are the same things (e.g. penises are large clitorises, and clitorises are small penises) which means there is no such a thing as a male or female sex organ by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Have you ever saw a clitoris?

Penis and clitoris have absolutely different functionality and structure.

Do you think women pee and give birth through clitoris? That we shoot ova through it?

"Womxn" is trending on Twitter because Twitch used the phrase "Womxn's History Month" to "include trans and nonbinary women." Both trans and non trans people hate it. by OPPRESSED_REPTILIAN in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This word was created by TRA to include transwomen into word "women" and now TRA figgting against it?

They are eating themselves alive.

Interesting note thatTwitch not removed this word when GC feminists were asking to remove it, but instantly removed when transwomen asked.

And their statement: "We consulted with LGBTQIA+ community about how to call women". Seriously? Why not consulted women instead? And why it goes like "we were deciding how you women, would be called" - such a show of misogyny.

And why there were never "Mxn"? Why only word "woman" is challenged all the time?

QT: Who is trans “inclusive” language really for? by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

99.982% to be precise. Total amount of intersex people is around 0.16-0.2% of population and amount of intersex people with ambigious genitals or missmatched chromosomes are just 0.018%. If taking into account only genitals, then around 0.009-0.01%. So in 99.991% cases genitals = sex. And in most of cases just few extra tests needed to determine. It is around 3000-30000 or less people with DSD per country (depending on population of it). There much more transgender people than us.

Almost none of intersex people are trans (same percent as in general population), so I don't understand why we even being mentioned. We are not connected to this issue in any way and our problems are completely different.

We do not want to be called third sex, other or "less female/male". We are the same as everyone else, just with congenital problems with sexual development - like people with 6 fingers, or people with congenital heart disorders, and so on. We are neither lesser, nor "other". Othering hurt us and leads to IGM and mistreatment.

Anyone notice how no real bi or homosexual comes out with as many homo/biphobic slurs as trans people do? by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

NO ONE is assigned at birth. Sex is observed before birth with screening or blood samples.

Assigning at birth was a medical malpractice, that was done exclusively on intersex kids, when doctors were not bothered to take additional tests and were just assigning sex they decided to and then making genital mutilation surgeries to make body visually look like sex they have chosen, with removal of one or both sets of gonads.

This was very cruel and dehumanizing practice, that lead to a lot of suffering and diseases among intersex people. This practice is no longer used. So no one is "assigned at birth" anymore.

Using this term is VERY rude and is triggering to many intersex people like myself, who were victims of being "assigned at birth". So, please, do not use this phrase ever again.

So apparently only "men" and "people" need abortions now! by BEB in GenderCritical

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Men and non-men.

We're bending over for 0.6% of the population. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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They have billionaries supporting them.

"Womens sex-based rights are over" by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]ColoredTwice 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is transgender-only rape relief in Canada, but can't be a single women-only ones? Women are in 85% victims of rape - yet we are not allowed our safe spaces and rape reliefs. Canada is full on MRA.

GC: Are we reducing people to their reproductive organs/ability? Is gender identity a mental illness? And if so, what are the similarities between gender identity and other mental illnesses? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reducing people to their body parts or functions is when saying "birthing bodies need abortion rights and menstruators need to fight against taboo around menstruation" - when it could be just said "females/women need abortion rights and to fight against taboo around menstruation".

OMG - what we’ve all been waiting for! A Guide to the “ever-evolving” language used to “talk about LGBTIQ people”. I need the cry/laugh emoji right here... by BEB in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is pretty dehumanizing to call someone abomination that is not man or woman. Othering us is pretty painful, and it is harmful for intersex youth especially.

GC: Intersex people show that sex, male and female, is a social construct because males can have female genitalia and gonads, go through menstrual cycle, etc, and females can have male genitalia and gonads, etc? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First of all, your "winter" is a liar. Such condition as they described - does not exist and can not exist.

Second, it is not 1.7%, but 0.2%. And that 0.2% is for 40+ different conditions. So 0.02% or less per condition.

Third - every intersex case is sex specific and in every intersex case it is possible to find sex of a person.

Fourth, only around 0.5-1% of intersex people are trans. Being trans and intersex has nothing to do with each other.

I did not read post, as after first few sentences it was clear that it is some BS and I did not wanted to become angry.

What Causes Homosexuality? -- Horseshoe Theory In Action by usehername in LGBDropTheT

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That is very racist assumption agains people of color to say that no one had word definitions until Europeans came and tought us language and definitions.

We weren't stupid before Europeans came, we were able to communicate before white's came.

I am finding your position as very undermining of us, and very racist towards PoC. So enjoy your block.

Any more evidence needed that TRA movement is just misogynistic MRA movement? by VioletRemi in GenderCritical

[–]ColoredTwice 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jaden Smith as a new face of womenswear might seem progressive - but he's on transgender territory

Year 2016.

Misogynistic pig MMA fighter Fallon Fox, I’m not “male sexed”, I am “female sexed” and “My clitoris is the best.” Fallon Fox= A Peak Trans Machine by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]ColoredTwice 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Googled that guy and indeed he served in US Navy for a long time.

All (mainly QT): If socialization is not a large factor than what causes drastically elevated levels of violence and sociopathic behavior in human males vs. human females? by DistantGlimmer in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Twitter has banned Azealia Banks for being rude to transgenders, when she said that lets during covid focus goverment money on people of color, especially ones heavy working on fields, instead of spending them on renaming genders and transgender social issues, as people of color dying there.

People who were threatening to rape her and called her to return to field (I'd say it is racism) - were not banned. While she was.

I guess black lives does not matter that much to Twitter.

Trans Labrys flag by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They can't (or do not want to) make anything on their own. All they can and want is to take something from others.

GC: What are the differences between sex segregation and racial segregation? Why is the former required, while the latter is discriminatory? by Tea_Or_Coffee in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why it isn't good enough? Comfort, dignity and not feeling afraid is already enough argument for single sex spaces. And safeguarding is even bigger argument. Even if males would not be violent and females would not be in danger - just named reasons should be already enough.

They feel uncomfortable and ashamed. While other girls understand them and may experienced the same - and boy never can understand or experience this.

Sports are single-sex as well, and not for safety reasons (in contact sports for safety reasons too, but it is small part of sports).

GC: How to know the sex of an intersex person? Are intersex people not 100% male or female? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, it means it is very hard (or unethical in case of CAIS) to determine and double down on it.

It is still possible, but there too few people to test and research.

For example - in last 100 years there were only 4 recorded cases of XXY or XXXY without SRY gene. And only one case of chromosomal chimerism which ended with person being male.

So even if it was impossible to determine sex of those 4, that would mean nothing - too rarelly happens.

Some humans are born with one leg because of chromosomal errors - this does not mean that humans are not bipedal. Right?

Los Angeles Times - "California prisons grapple with hundreds of transgender inmates requesting new housing (in WOMEN'S PRISONS)" BARBARIC. by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was later in this this situation:

https://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/simple-bigotry-missouri-high-schoolers-walk-out-because-trans-student-wants-to-use-girls-bathroom/

Most news articles stood on a boy's defense and interviewed only him.

Some girls stopped doing sports afterwards, I don't know if all. It was 6 years ago.

GC: Are we reducing people to their reproductive organs/ability? Is gender identity a mental illness? And if so, what are the similarities between gender identity and other mental illnesses? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It is like saying that human are bipedal is reducing humans to our legs.

QT, can you define ‘woman’ by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some of trans activists are saying that gay men are women and that lesbians aren't fully women (try searching: "Being gay is consolidation prize for not being able to become a woman").

Same conservative homophobia as before.

“Abandoning the lesbian label and create something else” by windrunner in Lesbians

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

On Twitter and Reddit and maybe elsewhere - transwomen and just "queer" men are calling themselves "homosexual females" already, because "my legal documents showing 'F', so I am female".

They are taking any words we are using for ourselves. So there no way to call ourselves anymore. And if follow your logic we will be just changing word after word after word to describe ourselves, until language will run out of words. Same with our rights and spaces - they are demanding more and more every few months and some goverments are listening to them - so we will end up rightless if not stand up against. Running away and getting hits in back is not a way to protect ourselves from persistent attacker, not a way to win a fight.

QT: Do you support free speech? by pollyesther in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That just not true, "sex spectrum" model solves nothing and just othering intersex people like myself, and hurting intersex youth. Sex spectrum is saying that I am less female and more male or that I am "other, third sex". There only 0.2% of intersex people and only around 1-1.5% of intersex people are trans, so "sex is a spectrum" does not help to transgender people at all (as almost all of them are unambigiously male or female - both physiologically and raised socially as such), but hurts intersex people a lot.

Binary sex is much better, because it is saying that every variation is equally valid, that I am same female as any other female, not "less on spectrum scale". Plus - why use for humans different scale and classification than to every other creature on Earth? Humans being special and above nature sounds like religious belief, tbh.

Second reason why "spectrum" is not solving anything, is because in every single case where sex matters - matters real sex and not "where on scale" it is and not "what gender you are". With my condition (SW CAH), after I was born, if I don't receive correct male or female treatment (they different) - I would die. And later in life I need to receive special treatment based on my sex, or I will get sick and die. And complications are different for each sex, so doctors must know what to expect as well (like I got "Secondary PCOS" - not sure why it called like this in English, and I need to take birth control pills to normalize hormonal levels and periods, but males would have different complicationsm like low fertility sperm, etc, and they will need to take different medicine). For transgender people sex matters a lot, because majority of health issues and treatment they must receive are sex based as well (as even with body alterations, majority of their bodies are still works as their birth sex, not as their prefered gender). And not aknowledging it can be deadly, I know one transwoman died by insisting on receiving same treatment as females, and there a bunch of cases when transmen risked their lives by writing their sex as "male" - as example here. Division by sex is very important in healthcare, sports, safeguarding, safe spaces, some statistics, feminism, shelters, parental rights and some other topics. And "spectrum" not works in any of those situations, because "less male on spectrum" is still male and have typical male body structure and parts where it matters, even if some other parts of their body are a-typical.

In every single other situation sex (and gender) should not matter AT ALL, because if it matters - it is called sexism. Treatment of issues and of people should be the very same regardles of their sex (or gender) everywhere but in few topics named above, where sex matters.

What are your thoughts on and arguments against these articles that say there is no such a thing as a male or female body? by Not_a_celebrity in GenderCritical

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those are political organisations, they can say whatever suits their agenda.

Dump of links is not how conversation starts. You should give short recap or your thoughts - forcing us to spend a lot of time reading ourselves, while not bothering yourself, - is extremely rude.

And this is not a debate sub.

GC: Hermaphrodites in other animals show that sex, male and female, is man-made and a social construct that doesn't exist in other species by Not_a_celebrity in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you cut a part of potato and throw it into the ground, both parts will grow up - so potato will reproduce and mulgiply itself.

If you cut one "hand" of sea star - old one will grow up hand back and hand will grow up to fully functioning sea star.

Lets test the same on humans? Lets test on you - and cut your a hand and wait until it grow back. If it is in other species - it proves same will happen to humans by your logic. Right?

Anyone notice how no real bi or homosexual comes out with as many homo/biphobic slurs as trans people do? by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Again. Assigning at birth - is medical malpractice. Sex is observed before birth. Do you know how pregnancy is going on?

Anyone notice how no real bi or homosexual comes out with as many homo/biphobic slurs as trans people do? by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are saying that homosexuality is transphobic? Homosexuality is not what we chose. Calling us transphobic for something we can't control and did not chose is homophobic. We are not attracted to "masculinity" or "femininity" how majority of homophobic regimes believed, we are attracted to females or males (or both).

I am surprised you are still not banned.

Anyone notice how no real bi or homosexual comes out with as many homo/biphobic slurs as trans people do? by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, sex is observed before birth. Assigning at birth is medical malpractice leading to IGM and is only used to intersex people.

Stop using medical malpractices to describe something unrelated in tries to prove your point, FFS.

Anyone notice how no real bi or homosexual comes out with as many homo/biphobic slurs as trans people do? by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All lesbians are same-sex attracted. So all lesbians are "TERF"s.

Rewriting history - Reddit comic 1) claims "terfs" stole the labrys flag, 2) perpetuates "lesbian = fun counterculture" falsehood; bonus: 3) advocates for violence by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure that they wouldn't say Buck Angel isn't trans even though they've turned Buck into an enemy.

You will be really surprised, but here you go: https://i.imgur.com/HurC0tD.png

QT/Trans: what do you want from others? by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

About last paragraph. Transition is mostly studied on male body and reccomendations there are ones for transwomen. And they are all applied to transmen, while they are not suitable for transmen and transmen aren't "on clock". The later transwoman transitions the harder will be for them to pass without cosmetic surgeries. For transmen it does not matter when they transition and puberty should not be blocked either (in any case same surgeries dor breast removal are needed). Testosterone makes irreversible permament changes to female body and it works regardless of age - starting at 15, 20 or 40 - transman will pass same way.

So for females (transmen) - it is not researched field at all and transition with treatment is wrongly given, as it only relies on transwomen experience, so it is harmful in the end for transmen.

Can someone here debunk these arguments that say sex is bimodal distribution and is not binary? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gametes that body is supposed to produce are determining what primary and secondary sex characteristics there would be. Not the other way around, aka - tall woman will not start producing sperm.

We are a queer couple able to reproduce. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 12 fun11 insightful - 11 fun12 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

gayden

Ninja Gaiden?

Sea lion rights are human rights! by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

It is from debate sub, there in one discussion about gc feminism versus lib feminism, libfem said that she will be advocating for whale rights if such question will be raised. Gc joked about "you will defend LEGO bricks or anything, but females" and libfem answered that if lego bricks would be sapient - then yeah, her feminism will be defending their rights too. So here we go, with mainstream feminism being for whales and lego bricks, and not for women.

Sea lion rights are human rights! by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes. And feminism is for whales and lego bricks, as one libfem insisted.

One in every 130 females globally is living in modern slavery by jet199 in GenderCritical

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

World is as hateful as always to us. Even in first world countries on the West women-hating (transgender) movement became mainstream and revoking our hard won rights and safe spaces.

Gendercriticalsociety is gone (to no ones surprise) by MadLass in GenderCritical

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They afraid that anyone who will see it, will realize how stupid their ideology is.

GC: What are the differences between sex segregation and racial segregation? Why is the former required, while the latter is discriminatory? by Tea_Or_Coffee in GCdebatesQT

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Privacy is important too. Young girls with first periods are fine changing pads when other girls are present in public bathroom. But would not be fine in unisex one.

Privacy is one of big issues in African countries for this reason.

As example - in recent Kenya report, they found that women are worse at education because the lack of single-sex spaces. They either have unisex bathrooms or none at all. So girls and teen women are skipping classes during periods, which is leading to them getting behind in knowledge. Feminists there are strongly fighting for single-sex spaces. One African feminist (I don't remember from what country) even said that single-sex spaces are very important requirement for women to gain equality and to be included in social life. And that lack of them is a sign of control and policing over women.

Let’s discuss this casual throwing around of terms like ‘nazi’ by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

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It is common propagandistic tactics - was always used in dictatorships and cults.

When USSR was "curing" me from my lesbianism, they were saying to parents that I will end up suiciding like many other lesbians (who mostly suicided BECAUSE of treatment or corrective rapes) if I receive no treatment. They were fearmongering them and saying same to me. I wss just naive teen who just wanted to be normal, so they did different therapies and in the end decided that I am acting too masculine, so must be a man - and put me on testosterone.

So it is very common way to control parents - scare them with suicide and remove kids from parents to propagandists (like we had pioneer camps, where were only few adult propagandists and we were not allowed to connect with parents for months).

And it all happened to me more than 30 years ago. Methods are never changing.

QT, can you define ‘woman’ by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

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Half of women would not be women even if combine all those definitions, lol.

People are getting banned for calling out trans activist Alok Vaid-Menon tweet saying that “little girls are kinky” and should be sexualised. by VioletRemi in GenderCritical

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By the society bisexual men are seen as homosexual and bisexual women are seen as heterosexual. So most likely bisexual men were just piled together with homosexual men.

"Womxn" is trending on Twitter because Twitch used the phrase "Womxn's History Month" to "include trans and nonbinary women." Both trans and non trans people hate it. by OPPRESSED_REPTILIAN in LGBDropTheT

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There still screenshots of Stonewall and GLAAD using this word in their messages about transwomen.

Why is intersex included in the LGBTWTF+? by QueenOfTheNorth in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are using us as canon fodder and "gotcha's" and they are really hurting intersex youth and dragging away funding from intersex organisations.

Most intersex organisations, who are not "transgender everything" - are asking for years to exclude us from LGBT+ soup.

Intersex people are only 0.2% or less of population, with ambigious conditions being only 0.018% - so there are a lot more transgender people than people with DSD.

Some of you may believe I’m being overdramatic here, but it really sucks having to wake up to everyday and be reminded that my sexuality that I’ve fought to no end to get my family and friends to accept is being actively appropriated by straight women who fetishise gay men. by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]ColoredTwice 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So patriarchy does not exist?

All oppression is created by women and men are just executing their orders?

Why are you so misogynistic?

Why blame is always on women - for every men's misdeed it is always women's fault?