The level of gaslighting and gayop-ing needed to sustain this country is actually insane by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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The US is in the same state the Soviet union was in 35 years ago, corrupt, diverse, stuck in foreverwars, broken economy and a system nobody believes in. This latest Trump farce was excellent because it really made it obvious to the Trump boomers that they are never going to get what they want by campaigning for the next republican who promises immigration reform but is never going to deliver. People have to get off the GOP plantation and start thinking outside the box. Yesterday we saw huge crowds of right wing people that had given up on the political system. Many of them are lost and thankfully they are going to have to find a new home in politics.

Refuting a big Cope: Deplatforming is extremely effective and Bitchute is a dead end by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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1) I am old enough to remember pre internet days when I could at best hand out 400 fliers in mailboxes in a day of which the vast majority were never read. Thousands of views for one days work when there is a lot more content in a video than on a flier is still a huge upgrade compared to 15 years ago.

2) What works best is bigger platforms such as counter-currents, unz.com and therightstuff. Large portal sites with a lot of new content is what works best, especially news sites. Counter-currents seems to be doing really well with traffic.

3) The idea that you could make a revolution on youtube and facebook was wildly naive. No elite ever has given a platform for someone who wants to overthrow it. Tsarist Russia didn't allow communist revolutionaries to speak freely. If you lived in the Soviet union as a dissident you couldn't write for pravda. The suppression of the alt right is if anything exceptionally mild. Pol Pot lost many of his early friends long before he gained power. Revolutions are violently suppressed and have always been violent supressed. Thinking the enemy was going to give us a platform and then hand over power when we present better arguments is not realistic. We know when we actually are close to getting power and that is when the drone strikes start. They aren't going to hand over power, we are going to have to put ourselves in power. That doesn't mean violence, the Iranian revolution was peaceful from the revolutionaires standpoint but hundreds were killed by the state. I absolutely don't support violence but I understand that we will be subjected to it and that we are going to have to take power. Revolutions don't require internet. We don't get very far with funny memes, it is passive support. 100k people liked your video and then what?

What works is building organizations and political groups IRL. IRL organizing is difficult to shut down and has worked effectively in the past. what is needed is grass roots organizing, not twitter accounts. Information is far freer in the west today than it was in the Soviet union and that didn't stop polish workers from revolting peacefully against the system.

R/unpopularopinion Deletes Thread of Jessica Whitaker as "Trolling/Satire" by lothrop_evola in debatealtright

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We should never drop this news story. We have to keep reminding people of her even when the media ignores her.

Dugin's daughter reportedly murdered by a car bomb by NeoRail in debatealtright

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This is how jews fight, sneakily and through assassinations. Iranian high ups are murdered all the time. In the Afghanistan and Iraq wars they made drone strikes killing entire families the norm.

They aren't the type to fight a big open battle, they are the type that will fight dirty.

Chinese universities are pushing race mixing. by FoxySDT in debatealtright

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This is probably some attempt to bribe upper class Africans with prostitutes. I met an African engineer who worked for a ISP in Africa who got a free one month trip to a Huawei training center which was essentially a month of bribery. I doubt this is ideological, this is just the Chinese state whoring its women to buy farmland and sell consumer goods to Africans.

Opinions on this thread in r/europe by Salos10000 in debatealtright

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One thing I really like about moving to saidit is that we can finally link to various subreddits and not worry about it.

These men either fought in WW2 or suffered their childhood through it

First they fought for Stalin, then they fought for their grandchild to become and underaged sex slave for a migrant grooming gang.

Holding rallies in leftist cities is mostly fine, I have done it. The problem is when you either don't have enough people or give antifa enough time to organize. If there is 20 of you antifa won't attack unless there is 50 of them. It takes a lot of time to gather 50 aggressive people. Do not tell more people where and when the rally will be than absolutely necessary, do not post anything online, use secure chat-tools, meet up somewhere else and travel to and from the location together and be quick in quick out. Even 5 guys who pop up from nowhere and then disappear after 30 minutes are hard to take out. If there are few of you move location, be at one spot, disappear and reappear somewhere else, just make sure you aren't followed.

Zogbot who allegedly "killed bin Laden" has a Twitter meltdown by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Imagine thinking fighting for tranny story hour in Afghanistan is based. The US military is antifa with bigger guns, their job is to ensure the world is fat, feminist, multicultural and watches amazon prime.

Should we care about Palestinians? by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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Absolutely yes, Israel creates chaos and Europe gets migrants. The more Israel destabilizes the middle east and the more problems they create the more migrants come to Europe. A Palestinian state would be a big win for Europe. This latest conflict started with Israel ethnically cleansing a Palestinian area and ethnically cleansed Palestinians will come to Europe.

Derek Chauvin guilty in death of George Floyd: Live updates by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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Cops will be terrified of arresting blacks after this. Cops not only risk getting shot or injured, but will be given a trial as political as the OJ Simpson trial for it. Expect Zimbabwe.

El Catastrophe in Holland and Germany: Greens rise in Germany, populists collapse in Holland by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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This is a really dismal showing for Dutch populists, as cucked as they are. The two populist parties Fvd and PVV have together gotten a mere 15% of the vote.

Dutch populists really showed that they have no political instinct. In times of crisis people want a leader that acts and solves problems. Fvd's solution was to say there is no crisis, the pandemic is a lie, I don't wanna wear a mask!. Grown men behaving like two-year-olds who don't want to wear pants is not the leadership people want in a crisis. People turn to politicians for solutions and their solution was we don't have one.

In Germany, the rapidly anti-German Green party has surged,

White people love the environment and the recent surge in environmentalism is a really white pilling trend. The environmental sentiment is a genuinely antiliberal and antimaterialist trend. Nationalists should own this trend and ride the wave of environmentalism. Instead they decide to cuck for liberalism and big business by promoting climate denialism, and complaining about the government's failed attempts at trying to help the environment.

Populism is a failure because it starts at the wrong end. Instead of looking upwards towards some higher truth or principle it looks down. It is a self centered ideology focused on the feelings of often butt hurt people and their wants. It doesn't strive higher than I don't like brown people and nobody can tell me I can't drive a car that pollutes like a small tank.

Nick Fuentes banned on Dlive by arainynightinskyrim in debatealtright

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People are so stuck in internet thinking that they can't imagine organizing without it. Every political movement in history did it and many were far more persecuted that us. We face nothing compared to the Reds in Tsarists Russia, the dissidents in Poland in the 80s or any other historical movement that succeeded. The system has actually been very nice to us. Being kicked off the internet might even be good, people think they are doing something when few people change their mind because of a twitter comment.

Should America balkanize by race? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Most likely it is the best option but too much is being given to non whites. Hispanics have south america + central america. They don't need more.

A tale of two Wehrmachts: The stark difference between Russian and English wikipedia entries on the Wehrmacht by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The Russians treat their enemy the way white people treat their enemy: with respect and admiration. Our tradition is chivalry and wars with laws in it. We pretty much invented rules of engagement and the concept of war crimes. For us it has been normal that battles are agreed upon in advance, that those who surrender are taken prisoner and that the two sides can communicate. White people treat war like a sporting event in which two sides agree upon a time and date, engage in conflict and shake hands and thank each other for a good game afterwards.

Jews see the enemy as fundamentally illegitimate and evil that must be humiliated and destroyed. They hold endless grudges and will never forgive. They don't accept a peace treaty, they want to annihilate their enemies.

Arabs fear for wheat supplies after Russia invades Ukraine by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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This is going to be a supply chain disaster of epic proportions. The shooting and fighting is far from the most destructive part of this war. Russia is a massive exporter of fertilizers and both Ukraine and Russia export a lot of food. Food prices were high already before the war. Start your own preparedness. Fill your pantry with stuff that you usually consume. Unlike preppers you don't have to buy stuff to provide you with all your food, just buy a major supply of cereal, flour, rice and pasta. Those types of goods will become expensive.

I am very much into gardening, and supplies used in May here in Scandinavia are already selling out. There has never been such demand. I know the local sellers of food gardening supplies and they are not hit too bad by the supply chain crisis, instead they are facing insane demand. If you have access to land plant potatoes. They are healthier than wheat and planted potatoes are cheap. You don't have to own land, just ask around and you will find a plot. If you have a large garden you are less impacted by food prices. Hunting, fishing, beekeeping and berry picking are other hobbies that will provide you with food.

Race mixing within your family by [deleted] in debatealtright

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I dated a women for a couple of years who had an adoptive younger brother from an African country which I won't name. It actually went well when he was a kid since he was more of the effeminate type rather than the ghetto gangster. The family was really, really touchy around any topic that was critical of multiculturalism since they were so heavily invested in it that they couldn't reason rationally. They made their bet on a multicultural society and they did not want to hear any contradictory ideas and I quickly learned not to mention politics around her family.

The problems arose when he was in his late teens and he stopped being the cute African kid and started to live his own life. His circle of friends was all black and he started to act more African and stopped fitting into his adoptive parents upper middle class culture. When he graduated from high school and the other kids in the neighborhood went to college it became obvious that he would never be able to live that life. It became more and more clear that he didn't belong with the people he grew up with and both he and the family suffered from this.

PREPARE FOR WAR: After Jan. 6th, expect all hell to break loose across America by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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America is an enemy occupied war zone, and there appear to be millions of armed American citizens, patriots, veterans and members of law enforcement who have reached that “line in the sand” moment where they will take up arms to defend the republic. The calendar points squarely to the days following January 6th, 2021.

People should have revolted a long time ago but lets face it Americans lack revolutionary spirit. Even countries like France and Italy have far more normal white people rioting. Europe at least have football hooligans who like to fight and engage in large scale violence. Non leftist white Americans are the least likely people to engage in organized violence in the entire world. Americans are hyper individualists and do what is best for them. A revolt requires a lot of people to do what is not good for them personally. The banks took millions of people's homes in 2008. None of those gun owners resisted. The government turned Chicago from a white city into an African city and the gun owners politely left.

The MAGA-crowd can FED-post all they want but if the police threaten them with a fine they will politely obey orders with the exception of 0.0001% of them who instead will go on shooting spree.

On January sixth we will see people wave Trump flags, fight a bit with antifa and that will be it.

The plan for survival and victory going forward by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The US is turning into the Balkans in the 90s. The US is falling apart and it is becoming more and more obvious that you are white and not just an individual. Covid + BLM has made american cities unlivable for whites. People can't stay in cities and they are being targeted as white people both by the diversity and by the system. The US is headed for a Yugoslavia type war or a situation more similar to that in Iraq and I am not saying that in a FED-posting way. We are not going to riot, loot, shoot people or engage in violence. We are going to be peaceful. The diversity will set the US on fire. There is already a low intensity race war in every american city and it isn't white nationalists engaging in violence.

The civil war 2.0 isn't going to be some white nationalist militia, it is going to be economic collapse combined with BLM rioters trashing a town and a group of white guys putting a road block around their cul de sac while people in that area help each other out.

What we need to focus on is giving white people the tools to understand the situation they are in and navigate this new reality. The best model for us to follow is how other minorities in similar situations have reacted in the past such as Kurds, ethnic minorities within Europe, jews, Afrikaners etc. We need to build white identity politics, defend our interests and team together in white areas. Podcasts, forums, news-sites etc are very useful because they help white people understand the current situation and make good life decisions.

Wealth gain since the pandemic began Bezos: $94 billion Musk: $80B Page/Brin: $60B Zuckerberg: $59B Kochs: $39B Waltons: $33B Ballmer: $30B Gates: $29B Jobs: $19B Buffet: $16B Knight: $12B Ellison: $11B is this what people meant when they said we should die for the economy? by Jesus in debatealtright

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And they used their media to shift attention entirely to crazy culture war stuff so most people don't even know it happened.

Wakanda is going to be real. by literalotherkin in debatealtright

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With enough Chinese engineering, private security firm and project management it could be a nice place.

The demise of Russia is devastating to the alt-right worldview. by Zoomer1212 in debatealtright

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Russia attacked Ukraine without mobilizing and took an area the size of England + Wales against Ukraine, which is fighting a total war with backing from the entire west. Meanwhile Europe is rapidly deindustrializing due to not even having a functional electrical grid.

Two Indians just got elected Mayors in Alberta's biggest cities. WTF? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Texas and Alberta aren't really right wing, they are hyper individualist materialists who think woke stuff is a bit weird and dislike government because it stops them from consuming more and destroying the environment faster.

What Qanon has done to our people by Nasser in debatealtright

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The elites are masters are steering movements in neoliberal directions. The people who tore down the Berlin wall didn't want Berlin to be the gay capital of Europe and full of Muslims while the NSA records people as much as stasi did. Occupy wall street went from bring down the bankers to pronouns and SJWs. Every time there is a revolt in South America against some corrupt leftist the result always becomes to sell the country's wealth to international oligarchs. Brexit went from a Brittish nationalist project to importing millions of people from India and Hong Kong.

The radical energy of 2016 when people where genuinely questioning orthodoxy, proposing radical ideas and promoting real change was co-opted into whacky conspiracy theories.

Sweden's Nationalist Party, Sweden Democrats Nearing A Share Of Power by Jacinda in debatealtright

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I would call them alt light rather than alt right, low immigration except for workers from the middle east and crack down on muslims that reject liberal values. The moderates are complete neoliberals but realize that they have to adapt because multicultral chaos will be bad for business. Sweden is having its rudy giuliani moment where we are going to implement a lot of the solutions that were popular in the US 30 years ago. Be tough on crime, keep minimum wages low so low Iq people can get jobs combined with neoliberal economics.

All in all it is still a huge win because we have gone from blue haired SJW fanaticism to essentially Trump level civic nationalism as the mainstream ideology. Sweden has clearly shifted right over the past five years.

A million French citizens have signed the second letter by active soldiers by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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France is 80% white, French people are smarter, richer, better adapted to their environment and less diverse than the immigrants. There is absolutely no reason why they can't kick the muslims out of Europe just like the Ottomans were kicked out and the north Africans were kicked out of Spain.

A tearful farewell to the bees by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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If you are interested in starting a new hobby I recommend beekeeping. It is an unbroken tradition that goes back thousands of years and has been a part of our culture longer than almost anything else. It is a great way to connect with nature, help your local ecosystem and make extra money. It is one of few hobbies that has made me more money than I have spent.

Not to mention beekeepers associations are some of the whitest and most trad groups you can find.

Combat veteran says 'we have globalist ruling elites in DC' on 'Tucker' by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Going to war to fight for drag queen story hour in the backwaters of Afghanistan is peak cuckservative.

Existing emissions pledges barely scratch climate targets, U.N. tally finds by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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The ruling elite are globalists and globalism runs on highly dense fuels, aka fossil fuels. Shipping goods fast and cheap around the planet requires fossil fuels. Flying 400 people between two continents on a plane requires fossil fuels. Having a global supply chain of food instead of local ecosystems requires fossil fuels.

The elites can't stop climate change within the paradigms of their ideology. The right should take the climate issue and make it our issue since it works so very well with what we want.

Alarm as South Korea sees more deaths than births by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Korea has gone from 13 million people in all of the country in 1910 to 50 million just in the south. South Korea only produces half the food the country needs and the whole country is just endless sprawl or mountains. There is almost no flat land that isn't occupied by humans. Asian megacities are some of the most dystopian places on Earth, it is just endless sprawl. South Korea very much needs a shrinking population.

How to break the 2 party system in America? by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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It isn't going to happen, redoing the political system would more or less require redoing the constitution with no support from the powers that be. 30+% of voters are non white. To get based politics 5 out of 7 white voters will have to vote nationalist. Not even Trump could do it the second time. Politics is over, elections don't matter. We aren't going to win that route. White people are going to have to start acting like a large ethnic minority like the Shia or sunni in Iraq rather than just Americans. White people need to become ethnocentric, drop all the Americanism and focus on their own group interest.

Richard Spencer - I look at Kyle Rittenhouse and I want to beat him up by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I agree that Rittenhouse has a lot of bad ideas and I find GOP politics to be awful but Rittenhouse is young and his heart is in the right place so I will still support him.

Opinions on the pandemic responses and lockdowns? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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The elites in the west have shown how bad they are at handling a crisis. A crisis wasn't a part of their globalist worldview with endless 3% economic growth. In the spring they were running around with their hair on fire unable to act decisively. Supply chains broke down because they are very fragile and globalized, there was minimal preparedness for a crisis. Our politicians couldn't even close the boarders when there was a virus flowing in. The elites were so eager to dump the working class for higher profits that they had set up an economy reliant on dozens of giant airliners flying from Wuhan to the west everyday. Milan and northern Italy was hit very hard because they have tens of thousands of Chinese people sewing clothes in the Italian fashion industry even though Italy has high unemployment.

Pandemics are normal and happen from time to time. Our leaders have swallowed their own end of history propaganda so hard that they didn't even think they needed to prepare for one. There was barely any testing during the spring because defence spending is spent getting the military industrial complex fat and fighting wars for Israel instead of actually defending the country.

A heavily polarized country with huge ethnic divides, lots of illegal immigrants and a broken medical system can't handle a pandemic. Testing and contact tracing doesn't work when you don't even know how many millions of people are in the country. In the end most of the west got a garbled bunch of half measures that didn't achieve much. Countries like Japan, Taiwan, Kina, South Korea and Vietnam showed that strong leadership can squash a crisis before it becomes a big problem. Our politicians have killed hundreds of thousands of people and tanked their economy because they are useless talking heads.

Only iliterate MAGAtards distrust the authorities on Covid by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Unfortunately so much of the American right has an entrenched culture of hurr durr any form of authority is bad, I want to live on my farm and shoot at anything that comes close because government = lizard people. It really isnt productive at all and is an entirely defensive posture. The west is so low trust that no matter what the government does people will assume it is some great conspiracy. Instead of proposing actual solutions to problems the globalists can't solve the American right wants to hide on their farm and pretend the problem doesn't exist.

Instead of criticizing globalization, open boarders and society that is too fractured to do serious testing and organizing a response people have painted themselves in a corner trying to defend not wearing protective equipment during a pandemic. South Korea, Japan, China, Singapore and Taiwan have shown that Asians can effectively handle a crisis while westerners will sit and bicker without achieving much.

Report: A Total of 59 Million People Displaced by Middle Eastern Democracy Wars for Israel by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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In 2003 I had never met an Iraqi, in 2010 my neighborhood was full of them. I have never met anyone from Jordan but I have met lots of Lebanese and Syrian people. I have never met someone from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan or Kyrgyzstan but my town is swamped with Afghanis. Not only do the wars provide a steady flow of migrants but they provide the propaganda for them as well. We bombed them so we are responsible for them is an argument I have heard many times. The media only seems to show footage of explosions and fighting in the middle east when discussing migrants here in Scandinavia.

The war on terror is one of the worst things that has happened in modern history. It flooded our country with migrants, it created a lot of hate both among non whites and whites against western societies because people are upset at the wars. I know people who became leftists because they were anti Bush and anti Iraq war, when they joined the left they adopted other left wing views. It created the surveillance state and allowed for massive repression of dissidents, it gave a huge boost to jihadists.

When the mainstream right went neocon was when the last element of WASP ideology died and it just became jewish oligarchy.

Genetics and war: After a century of genocide, Germans still make the finest soldiers in the world by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The US military is antifa with guns. Their mission is to keep Europe brown and gay and Israel expanding. The closest thing we have come to white nationalism in Europe in recent years is Serbia in the 90s which had a real nationalist uprising and the US responded by blasting Serbian cities from the air. US special forces helped islamists take over white villages and genocide them. Kosovo is a muslim state in Europe founded by the US. The US military has spent the last 20 years invading countries in the middle east and trying to do nation building there, aka pushing millions of migrants into Europe while trying to teach feminism to third world peasants. I honestly think we have more in common with antifa than US soldiers. They are literally the worst traitors in the history of white people since small numbers of whites supported Ottoman invasions of Europe.

Luckily I don't think the US military will do well in the long run. They are overstretched, have trouble recruiting, have too high costs and their own ideology is filling their organization with poz.

Why does Hungary and Poland governments hate white nationalists? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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1) Control of the right. They don't want alternative groups and messages to their own because they want to control the right of the political spectrum. More radical groups that oppose them from the right don't benefit them and often create problems for them.

2) Appeasing the elites. These countries are under tremendous pressure from the EU and global financial institutions. Poland is highly dependent on the outside world. Poland doesn't really have any major companies but is a European outsourcing country and companies like Airbus and german car companies are moving engineering and production there. The EU gives Poland billions every year and without NATO Poland could easily be steamrolled by Russia. Without western financial elites Poland would be like Moldova. The EU pays for the modernization of Poland's electrical grid and is the reason why Poland's trains are modern and not trains left by the Soviets.

Poland has a tough balancing act, they fundamentally disagree with the elites on certain issues at the same time they depend entirely on them. They can't start too many fights with the globalists and they have to do things to make them happy. Often they chose to do things that don't really bother them but make the globalists happy like supporting Israel or sending troops to Afghanistan. Polish politicians don't care about some village in Gaza and if that keeps them from getting EU sanctions for not becoming a third world country it is worth it for them.

Should America balkanize by race? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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We tend not to breed like rabbits.

May you live in interesting times. Mike Enoch, Eric Striker and crew form the National Justice Party. by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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1) Renting a large conference hall is expensive.

2) You can have a lot more privacy and freedom on a farm.

3) They are less likely to cancel you.

A strong whitepill: majority of white American men, even young college grads oppose BLM by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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You know BLM is a totally astroturfed movement when most of the people in the room think it is stupid but you still get fired for criticizing it.

Even honest leftists are now coming to grips with the fact that feminism is a failure by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Feminsm is like a drug addiction, it sucks you in. Feminism makes you bitter, unhappy and unattractive which in turn makes you more feminist. It is a feedbackloop that is difficult to break.

Vox lost on a climate change denying ticket by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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It is sad that so many of the alt-light parties are die hard anti environmentalists. It is questionable what they can preserve while using imported fuel to destroy their environment. The populist impulse isn't really ideological. Their plattform is they don't like taxes because they are expensive. They don't like arabs because they create trouble, they want cheap fuel because they want a low price at the pump. There is no motivation beyond the short sighted individual need of the boomer voting for them.

Do you think global warming/climate change is real? Do you care about the environment? by 8thmonitor in debatealtright

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Climate change has a strong scientific backing and is unfortunately very real. The green house gases trap heat and this is easy to show experimentally. Emissions do damage the environment and are bad for our societies.

The anti climate change stuff is in many ways a gop cope along with much of their environmental policy since their policies don't work on a finite planet.

A study from the New England Journal of Medicine shows that 8/10 pregnant women suffer miscarriages from the vaccine by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The radical right in 2016 was taking about demographics, free trade deals and forever wars.

The radical right in 2021 is taking about vaccines cause autism, 5G gives brain cancer and the world is run by satanist pedophile cults.

Well played JIDF, well played. Conspiracy nuttery is their best tactic against actual radical critique of the system.

Canada is under attack. This is how White people are responding. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Canada is a worrying case, it has gone from super white to having non white cities with very little resistance. There is no successful Canadian Trump, Le Pen, AfD etc. The elites in Canada seem to have been able to ram through multiculturalism without any real opposition.

Woke leftist culture imported from US is ‘racialising’ France, causing splits in society and holding back ethnic minorities, says President Macron by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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This is actually a good thing, the US and Europe are out of sync. The US has moved on from liberalism and we are all just individuals to the Zimbabwe phase of multiculturalism. Europe is still in the American version of the 90s since Europe is still much whiter than the US. France is one of the most diverse countries in Europe but still white by US standards. It is too early for them to do critical race theory and BLM. Doing 2021 ideology when having a 1995 level of diversity will reduce the risk that the frog gets boiled slowly.

Blacks are our allies by Dragonerne in debatealtright

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Blacks are a huge group and calling them allies or enemies is a large over generalization. The diversity of views among them is large. However, I absolutely agree that there are many black people with views that are compatible with ours and that could easily make natural allies for us. I have no problem working with non whites if we have common interests.

Why are so many nationalists supportive of Palestine if they hate brown people? These people are a joke to the cause. by Tiddparker in debatealtright

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I’m seeing mass cognitive dissonance. Why do you support Palestine if you hate islam and muslims?

Palestinians are fighting to keep arabs in the Middle East, Israel wants to kick Arabs out of their homes and create a flood of Arabic migrants. If you want a white Europe you need a Palestinian state. Israel has been tremendously destructive for Europe and a massive source of migrants.

Also I don't hate Arabs who stay in their homeland and do their thing. I see no problem with the Arabs who want their own country and who don't bother me.

Israel is a right wing state you people could only dream of.

Yet they always support more migration, more degeneracy and more leftist values for the west. They want an ethnostate for them and diversity for us. What has anyone in the west ever gotten out of working with "based" Israelis. Tel Aviv is one of the most degenerate cities in the world. I would rather work with far more based Iranians.

France’s military wages war on Macron’s values by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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A few days ago the Swedish major General Anders Brännström was fired, and it is well known that he was fairly based. In an interview he said that one of the main threats from Sweden came from the south and that it wasn't just terrorism but the effects of migration on society. Brännström was the most popular General among the soldiers and was far more competent than most of the paper pushers in the headquarters.

In the Swedish military they have pushed for diversity for years but the diversity has little interest in serving and the soldiers are generally fairly based. While most aren't alt right I would say the Swedish democrats would get 50% of the vote among the enlisted and looking at facebook profiles of enlisted Swedish soldiers there are a lot of 20 year old soldiers boomer posting about immigration. If they cleared out all the thought criminals from the enlisted ranks there wouldn't be much of a military left. Officers are often secretly based but hide it because they will never get promoted if they are openly nationalist. Neoconservatism has never been a mainstream ideology in Sweden but the Swedish officer corps and police are the only two places with neocons.

The people rising up has never worked in history, every time there has been regime change it has been a faction of the elite replacing the people on the very top. In France I could actually see a coalition of officers forming a new elite.

America is resembling the late Soviet union more and more by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Civilizations go through cycles and the Soviet union went through its life cycle faster than the countries in the west. Since the Soviet union collapsed in relatively recent years it will in many ways be more similar to what will happen in our countries than previous collapses. When I talk about collapse I am not talking about a doomsday prepper collapse, I am more talking about a period of chaos that opens up new opportunities just like how much of the former Soviet union is better today it is possible parts of the west would be better off 20-30 years after the collapse of the American empire.

But perhaps the most glaring similarility is in the loss of faith in the system.

The system is incapable of solving problems. A good example is the high speed rail line between LA and San Francisco. The line is taking ages to build and will cost a fortune and the project is completely mismanaged. Covid was a failiure and America could neither accept deaths and keep society open nor properly eradicate the virus like Vietnam and China and open back up. Instead it has been a long slow mess. The politicians can't solve housing, they can't deliver cheap medical care, they can't balance the budget and they are out of touch. Elites that can't solve problems and can't deliver do not last.

El Catastrophe in Holland and Germany: Greens rise in Germany, populists collapse in Holland by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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That is because the only groups pushing environmentalism are anti white. If you want to demonstrate for lower CO2 emissions the only demonstrations you can attend are leftist. If the right promoted right wing environmentalism then that would provide an alternative. 20 years ago wanting to leave the EU was primarily a leftwing issue. The right campaigned harder and louder and now owns the issue.

The latest Yougov poll is quite whitepilling. It indicates a surge of white racialism in the US. by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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That was white pilling, not only fairly good views on race and immigration but also free trade.

Jewish American Intermarriage Patterns by Soylent in debatealtright

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Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men. Some people tend to ascribe almost supernatural abilities to jews but they are just another ethnic and religious group and the same principles apply to them as every other group. The old culture of jews who were poor in eastern europe and who were hardworking dedicated people has been replaced by the culture of completely spoiled brats from LA. Fewer and fewer jews are accountants who work 60 hours a week and are fiercely loyal to their community. The young ones have gotten high on their own supply and are weak, spoiled and individualistic. Young jews aren't even tribal enough to marry their own, many are fat and many have swallowed their own liberal ideologies and genuinely believe in the frankfurt school's values. Jews in America have few kids and the jews who do have kids tend to belong to nutty insular sects that aren't going to provide ZOG with new leaders.

Israel is another problem for the American jewish community. Sensible but nationalistic/zioist jews move to Israel. A jew who is ethnocentric and believes in the jewish cause wants to live in Jerusalem. The ones who like critical gender theory stay in the US while the trannies in Israel probably feel more at home in San Fransisco. The jewish elites are experiencing what the Patricians in Rome experience in 700 years condensed to a century.

Not only are they intermarrying making their children less jewish but they have very low birthrates. The jews will split up into orthodox sects and generic liberal urbanite degenerates.

Unlike Trump, Europe's far-right leaders haven't been damaged by the pandemic by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Trump showed poor political instincts. In a time of crisis people want a paternal figure who steps up and solves the problem, not someone who backs down from responsibility and claims there is no crisis. He is stuck in a line of thinking where authority is bad and the society and the economy is the same thing. More based governments in Europe and Asia actually focused on solving the crisis and have succeeded far better than the US at preventing covid.

The Next Decade Could Be Even Worse by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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An economic collapse would surely make things worse but that is not what is driving the decay

It could be that excess drives social collapse. When people have money they no longer need their family for support so they can stop getting married and having kids and instead explore sexual deviance. We live in a society with low risk of invasion which means that men don't have to be fit and we don't have to prepare for the next war. Too much food makes people fat.

I think Turchin needs to update his model. Too much wealth causes degeneration. Diversity causes ethnic divides. Different groups have different intelligence levels. His model doesn't account for that.

18% of Mexicans have blonde hair and 28% has light eyes by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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People who move are often the losers, people with good lives tend to stay where they are. I have worked with people in South America and Mexico who work in engineering and do really good work and are just as qualified as people in the west. Far more than 28% of them have light eyes. The people who had to go to the US to pick tomatoes are probably not very white.

Should I become a paywall cuck for TRS? by SeanieD123 in debatealtright

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Without a doubt yes. We can't win by just posting comments online, to actually get somewhere we need functional organizations that can build their own content and platforms and deliver quality content. TRS has shown that they can deliver good quality content, they have shown that they can keep their organization running stably for years and they have built their own platform.

It is usually easy to get white nationalists to do work and contribute time but money often becomes the big bottle neck for white nationalist projects. Since it is money that is the bottle neck the amount of work that is done is often directly proportional to donations. Going from posting online and listening to podcasts to getting a few subscriptions and making a few donations really, really increases your contribution. It doesn't take that many people donating 10 dollars a month to get a lot of money.

Just make sure you are donating to a good organization first and that the person you are sending money to is trustworthy.

A "right wing" coalition has dethroned the Social Democrats in the Swedish election by NeoRail in debatealtright

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The biggest white pill is that SD polled well with young people. Despite being a far more diverse generation than other voters, SD did marginally better with young people. 22% of young people voted for a party that is semi based and described as full on nazis by the msm. The percentage voting SD among young white men must be substantially higher than 22%. Young men have brought about every major political change.

Also, fringe leftist parties have completely collapsed. The biggest party outside the parliament is nyans which is a trad islamist party followed by two nationalist parties. Islamic conservatism doesn't belong in Sweden but at least the muslims are abandoning globo homo.

Ahead of Ukraine invasion, Azerbaijan and Russia cement “alliance” by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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The globalist system is built on massive amounts of airtravel. If Russia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Ukraine close their airspace then Helsinki Beijing goes from being a 6500 km flight to a 11500 km flight if they fly over the highest parts of the Himalayas which they are currently banned to doing since the plane would be screwed if it got engine problems over mount Everest. Amsterdam - Seoul would go from 8600 km to 12100 km. Supply chain crisis. Flights between India and the US would gain around two hours of flight time.

China lifts restrictions on Russian wheat imports and India abstains from UNSC resolution against Russian aggression by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Indians in the west are really annoying, and I don't like their attitude when they come here. They see the west as nothing more than a shopping mall. However, India as a nation is different from the Indian guy in a tech office. They are a relatively independent player on the world stage and can help balance things out.

Besides, corrupt pajeets managing the IT-infrastructure of the liberal order is going to accelerate the collapse of the liberal order. An intelligence officer in Bangalore can target pretty much any system in the west without even having to make an effort.

A brief background to the American-Russian enmity and the conflict in Ukraine. by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Jewish power collapse is inevitable due to demographics.

At their height there were roughly 2.5 million jews in what is now Russia. Currently there are roughly 150 k jews in Russia and most of them are old. Jews tend to be urban and middle class which is a combination known for low birth rates. Liberal Jewish women in the US have a birth rate around one. That means their population is cut in half every generation or to 1/8 in 3 generations. The jews that are reproducing are lower IQ orthodox jews that are sectarian nutcases who are incapable of running a bank or a communist party.

With the fall of the soviet union millions of jews left eastern Europe. This has kept the Jewish population of Israel, NYC and California thriving but has left eastern Europe almost without jews. There are some jewish billionaires but there aren't nearly enough jews to staff newspapers, universities, lawfirms etc. Eastern Europe is becoming very goyish.

Meanwhile NYC, California and Israel has been able to thrive even with an abysmal birth rate among actual high iq jews by cannibalizing other Jewish populations. However, there aren't enough jews in Argentina, Poland and Russia to replace dying childless Jewish media personalities and bankers in NYC.

New York may tap National Guard to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Can the vaccine hysteria posts be moved to another sub so that this sub can focus on the alt right? The tiny possibility of unknowns sideeffects of a vaccine that billions of people have taken isn't really the issue that this sub should focus on.

FTN comes out on the anti-vax side by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The reality is that after billions of people getting vaccinated and a year after the phase 3 study none of the hysterical schizo theories about the vaccine have been correct. When the system hides something they avoid researching it, they don't fake billions of dollars of research and regulations involving tens of thousands of people.

A question for SNS and the other vaccine skeptics: Why is Israel so highly vaccinated? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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5G is dangerous, the earth is flat and anti-vax are theories promoted in order to move people away from actual issues similar to how occupy wall street became about trannies.

Jimmy Dore speaks out against the adverse side effects of the vaccine by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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From actual radical politics and criticism of globalization to anti Vax nonsense, cellphones give you cancer (5G) to bill gates and his microchips the elite have done an excellent job at gayoping the right.

Will the next American war be in Iran? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I don't believe we will see another American invasion. Iraq and Afghanistan were complete disasters, they cost trillions, achieved little and dragged on for years. Invading Iran would be a far bigger mess than any of those wars and the US is far more divided, indebted and tired of war than it was in 2003. Another big factor is the rise of China. Having the military capacity to defeat China and prevent China from taking Taiwan requires a lot of military resources. Marines can't both be a force that retakes islands in the pacific and a desert police. The US military budget isn't endless and priorities have to be made, fighting wars in the middle east or bombers on Guam and China is a far bigger threat than what exists in the middle east.

At the same time a war with China is unlikely because it would be disastrous, imagine if all trade with China stopped overnight and the whole world ran out of spare parts and manufactured goods. Ignoring the potentially huge military costs the economic costs of a war with China is enough to deter a war. Expect a lot of hot air and posturing but in the end there will be no war in the south China sea. The elites are more interested in trying to maintain what they have rather than expand their empire.

China Expected to Report First Population Decline Since 1949 by Bagarmoossen in debatealtright

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China is overpopulated, much of the coast is just one endless sprawl where one city starts where the next one ends. China can't produce enough food for its population and oceans are being overfished in order to feed China. I would much rather live on a sparsely populated planet than in one covered in endless sprawl.

When people say the global population is going to grow by a certain number of billions by 2100 they miss that it is Africa that is going to increase. Most of the world has peaked and is in decline and will hit a healthier population level by the end of the century.

The Dissident Right really needs to embrace the climate awareness platform of the left. by Nasser in debatealtright

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Oil is the lifeblood of globalization. It is what allows a globalized economy and the free movement of people over the planet. Revolting against oil is revolting against the foundation of globalization. As for the climate science itself the science is fairly clear, CO2 warms the planet and that will have a major impact on the world. Liberalism has completely failed at tackling this problem and nationalism should provide a better solution.

A common problem on the right is that the left identifies a real problem and finds a bad solution. Instead of coming up with a better solution people on the right deny the problem exists. Greta wants the UN to have more power and that is bad therefore all the problems Greta addresses must be fake. A better approach is to promote your own solutions instead of denying the problem exists. The system does an excellent job at using crises to promote their agenda. 9/11 was used to create a surveillance state when the real solution was deporting muslims. The right is falling in to the trap leftists who claimed 9/11 wasn't a big deal fell into when people on the left were worried about the patriot act.

47% of Americans don't believe Biden won the election legitimately by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Stop the steal was a great campaign not because it was pro Trump but because it delegitimized the entire system. In order to win we need to get people to stop believing in the system and stop believing that small reforms can fix things. Having an illegitimate demented president is a good first step.

The Joefather strikes again. Prepares to ban fracking, could end up abolishing 15 million jobs by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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This is one of the few good things about Biden. Fracking is destroying the planet to make a few billionaires who hate us rich. There is absolutely nothing traditional and conservative about destroying the planet. Oil is what fuels globalization, fatness, people being separated from nature, and multiculturalism. Peak oil would be one of the best things to happen to us and if Biden wants to bring it on early that is great.

The oil industry will make the world into multicultral Wall-E. Stop shilling for Exxon mobile, BP and other companies who's business is built around destruction.

Jan 6th was an obvious and intentional trap by Blackbrownfreestuff in debatealtright

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These boomertard qtard rioters don't seem to understand that just because one group can get away with rioting doesnt mean they will get away with it

No movement is ever going to actually challenge power unless they are willing to die by the hundreds and go to prison by the thousand. It wasn't easier in Iran 1979 or when the soviet union fell or when ghandi had his peaceful revolution.

More than 3 billion people affected by water shortages, data shows by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Same with the population "boom" that is a lie. Most of the planet doesn't have population growth. Most of Europe is declining, China, Japan, Thailand, South Korea etc are heading towards a population cliff. Even south America is starting to peak in terms of population.

Africa and the Middle East are having extreme and completely unsustainable population growth while most of the world is declining.

‘Stop the Steal’ spreads across the internet after infecting Facebook by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Stop the steal is good because it delegitimizes Biden. Biden is a senile and weak president with a vice president that isn't popular either. The democrat voters don't like Biden and his own camp is full of crazy people who have ideas that aren't civilization building. He has to try to unite a divided country, manage an economy that is collapsed and a pandemic. The US has a WWII level budget deficit and the US government has become corrupt and dysfunctional.

Having a leader that millions of people don't even see as legitimate is just the icing on the cake. The Biden presidency isn't going to go very well and the weaker his election looks the better. I don't even like Trump very much but I am definitely on board with stop the steal because I want Biden to be as weak as possible.

Are bioplastics and plant-based materials safer than conventional plastics? In vitro toxicity and chemical composition by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Get rid of plastics in your kitchen, have glass, ceramics, wood and metal instead.

Does anyone have a collection of studies on race and Iq? by Wrangel in debatealtright

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Unfortunately people don't deny water is wet.

Thoughts on Azerbaijan - Armenia issue? by TheCheebuMenace in debatealtright

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Completely back armenia.

Armenians are relatively white even though they have been somewhat mixed with various middle eastern groups. They speak a European language, have one of the oldest and most trad churches in the world and have fought the Turks for a thousand years. Azerbaijanis are a muslim Turkish people who don't belong in the region but have through centuries of aggression moved their positions forward. They participated in the armenian genocide in which 1.5 million Armenians were murdered by the Turks.

Armenians have defended themselves and Europe from Turkish/muslim invasions for hundreds of years. The province they are fighting over has churches that were built during the Roman empire, the Azerbadjanis would turn them into mosques if they could. Compared to the area that Armenians used to have they now don't have much land left. When Muslims are pushing into the Caucasus mountains we need to stop them. The province that they are fighting over is 98% Armenian but officially a part of Azerbadjan even though it is more or less independent. Now Azerbadjan wants to subjugate the Armenians in that province and force them to be ruled by muslim Turks.

Genetics and war: After a century of genocide, Germans still make the finest soldiers in the world by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The European militaries have a lot of right wing soldiers. The officers are a lot more cucked but the enlisted are often our guys.

Black Pill (sorry): Sweden just prohibited a danish politician from entering the country for 2 years by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Pretty white pilling reactions on social media tonight. A group of muslims are rioting and Swedes online are clearly not happy about the muslims.

It's normalized to talk about remigration as a possibility (in DK).

Sweden democrats have actually started to promote repatriation. The overtone window is shifting really fast in Sweden.

White guilt is genetic by [deleted] in debatealtright

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The Swedish elite has multiple personality disorder. They are ideologically die hard multiculturalists but reality has hit a wall. Only 36% of middle easterners were making 1200 dollars a month on a non subsidized job before the covid crisis and the covid crisis hit the service sector where a lot of these migrants work. 1200 dollars a month barely covers basic costs in Sweden, Sweden is expensive. The police can't handle the situation and we have had record crime in 2020. A lot of the costs of migration such as schooling basic infrastructure, welfare, education for migrants has been covered by municipalities. One of the big issues talked about in 2019 was how many of the municipalities hit by migration were going bankrupt. Even 15 years ago people were talking about how the municipalities in Sweden weren't sustainable in the long run. Enter covid-19 and they must be broke. The worst municipality is the city of Malmö which is very multicultural and last year it ran a 25% budget deficit and they have had to call in cops from all over the country to try to regain control of the city.

The situation here is kind of like the situation in the Soviet union in the late 80s. Officially everyone still believes in the official ideology but due to the massive failures o the system the government has to backpedal on many issues because the ideology is failing. It will take a lot to reeducate people and replace the elites but Sweden at least won't be flooded with migrants again.

We also have some funny ideological differences between the Swedish left and the American left. The Swedish left used to be anti cop, now their rhetoric is a strong police force protects women of colour and makes them feel safe in their communities. The Swedish left is coping pretty hard but forced to do so in order to keep their system intact.

What do you care about more, your ethnic group or your race? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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The two tie into each other. If countries surrounding my country get swamped by Africans and arabs that puts my country in a bad spot. The best way for a northern European country to defend itself is to keep the migrants from entering Greece, you don't want the enemy at the gates, you want them stopped far away.

I can understand that your friend cares the most about the place where he lives but that doesn't mean you can't support other countries. If other countries in the north support Italy that can help Italian nationalism, if the rest of Europe is hostile to nationalism it will be difficult for Italy to go another way.

Is the Groyper site- Trad news, a Jewish operation? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Don't get involved in infighting. If you don't like some commentator just ignore that person, E-celebs get way too much attention and there is no point in wasting time arguing over them.

Keith Woods - The Implosion of Propertaria ism by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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Keith Woods has become one of my favorite alt right thinkers.

I don't think Doolittle is an agent. I just think he is an autist stuck in a libertarian mindset.

The S.S Trump is sinking. Even Peter Thiel has bailed on him and will not back him in 2020 by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The problem for the right in the US is that the conservative movement is just based enough to get people excited but never delivers. I can understand that a lot of people stay on the MAGA-train long after it failed, it is there last hope. They want to vote for a based republican who will save them, if Trump loses that strategy will have to be abandoned. What would the plan be, elected a Trump 2.0 in 2024? If Trump loses that means that white people will never get a conservative candidate again. It is the day white americans bcome south Africans. This means that people will have to look elsewhere for answers. With BLM supporting corporations, democrats in power and a massive influx of migrants whites will have to start facing reality and realize that they have their back to the wall and this is really, really serious.

I am an optimist. White people can easily take back everything we lost, we just have to get out act together and hopefully a proper punch in the face will wake people up.

Psyop? Right-wing Brazilians have invaded the Presidential Palace and Supreme Court. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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It is a deeply divided country and it wouldn't be that bad if it split into several countries assuming the split is relatively peaceful and doesn't lead to mass migration.

Do you think global warming/climate change is real? Do you care about the environment? by 8thmonitor in debatealtright

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Overwhelming scientific evidence that not even a multidecades long attempt to challenge by oil companies and republicans has managed to make a real dent in.

Finally, the Russians are taking off their gloves and completely destroying Ukrainian civilian infrastructure by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I am amazed at the Ukrainian's willingness to fight. They are willing to fight a total war with huge numbers of dead to become a part of the American empire.

Why So Many Right-Wingers Support Putin Against Ukraine by Fourth_stage in debatealtright

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Putin doesn't care about race and is a civic nationalist. The globalists hate white people and want to import migrants with great fervor. I much rather take a neutral regime over a hostile regime.

TIL: the soybean was the official bean of NS Germany by [deleted] in debatealtright

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He was dead for 50 years when viagra was invented.

The return of history- Europe will be a holiday resort no longer by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I feel bad for them as well, can't be fun to be invaded. Hopefully they will surrender fairly quickly. Saigon fell fast, nobody wanted to die for LGBTP in Kabul, and hopefully few people decide to die for pride parades in Kiev. I have talked to people who are right wing and participated in the Maidan revolution in 2014, they thought that Ukraine was going to be an independent nationalist state, they ended up doing the dirty work for ZOG. I am surprised that some of them still think they are going to fight for based ethostate Ukraine when they are fighting for a jewish clown as president who is working with the EU. In general many nationalists in Europe have a naive view of geopolitics and think that they are going to get their strong independent state. I would love for Poland, Hungary, Ukraine etc to be independent nationalistic countries but in reality they have no nukes and are dependent on other countries. The option to be a truly independent country doesn't exist for European countries. The choice is pro Russia or pro Brussels/NATO. Russia is corrupt and has more poverty but they at least aren't going to stuff your country with migrants.

A very brief history of globalism and the great reset by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The elites are not communists and are not natural totalitarian, they are rather weak and ineffectual liberals that are trying to put out burning fires. Their ideology of liberalism was fun as long as the west functioned due to a strong culture and as long as the biosphere provided more and more natural resources..

The current leadership failed miserably with the pandemic, they couldn't even come close to stopping it. Their ideology of constant progress made them not think about how to actually handle a crisis. Their ideology of endless growth is hitting the ecological limits of the planet and the free market can't invent natural resources that dont exist. Using cheap Chinese people as slave labor ended up giving the Chinese the world's largest navy which they are now trying to contain.

The west is like the soviet union in the late 80s, the leadership consists of old people who's ideology is running into reality and they are desperately trying to keep the whole thing from falling apart.

Have you noticed every Ex-British colony does better than other European [colonized] ones? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Quebec is doing fairly well.

The UK moved a lot of people to its colonies and the UK colonized fairly empty places such as Canada, New Zealand and Australia.

Spain, France and Holland mainly colonized other people and those colonies were mainly populated by locals.

It's Feeling a Little Too Reddit in Here by Frenologist in debatealtright

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The difference is the people who explain things in terms of systems, ideologies and incentives and those who see conspiracies behind everything. The alt right especially in the beginning mainly consisted of those who wanted to critique the system in itself. Unfortunately the alt-light has dominated with the critique of the people within the system. Aka it isn't the US government that is the problem, it is the lizard people controlling it that is the problem. The problem with this hyperconspiratorial thinking is that you end up with a worldview with non falsifiable claims, a poor understanding of what is happening and few remedies. It is better to engage in an actual critique of liberalism than to just automatically assume everything is a lie and that there is a conspiracy behind everything.

Australia is now literally making concentration camps for the infected by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Australia has actually handled the pandemic really well. They have not had the virus spread much at all, while largely remaining open. Not letting people full of jungle diseases walk straight into your country is sensible.

Jeff Bezos, richest man alive, is going into Outer Space today. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Say what you want about the tech oligarchs but they atleast have a vision and do stuff. Musk has revolutionlized rocketry, google has inovated in all sorts of tech, Amazon spends more on R&D than Boeing and has a space program. The tech oligarchs at least dream of a future of humanity living in space with AI and quantum computers, self driving cars and fusion powered space travel.

The financial oligarchs are far richer than the tech oligarchs but contribute absolutely nothing to the world. Black rock is never going to do anything from cool.

Donald Rumsfeld, former Secretary of Defense under GW Bush, has died by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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There's mixed feelings always when you see these old WASP elites dying off

The problem is the P in wasp. You can't have discount judaism as your religion and be a successful elite. There can be hindu, orthodox Christian, catholic or shinto elites but protestantism gets its name from being a revolt against everything traditional, normal and hierarchical. Protestants tossed out the greek and Roman out of Christianity and focus on the Semitic parts.

4000 years later China has a Chinese leader. Poland has pretty much always been run by a catholic. India is run by a hindu. The wasps managed to give away their elite positions at record pace. That is what happens when you have a religion of individualist merchants who fetischize jews instead of a traditional religion.

Anglosaxons were pagans for thousands of years, they were catholic for over a thousand. They either need to go back to one of their older religions or find a new one.

What do you think of the woke and diverse mob spewing antisemitism on the streets at this moment? by Zoomer1212 in debatealtright

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Progressives in Europe have disliked Israel for 60 years and being opposed to Israel is a standard leftist opinion in Europe. Social media has a lot of crossbreeding between American and European ideas and political culture. Considering that the anti Israel stance makes a lot more sense it isn't strange that pro Palestinian European redditors can spread the narrative on the sub that becomes the consensus. In reality there are only three groups that like Israel, Jews, American elites, and evangelical boomers. More and more Americans belong to neither of these groups.

Bye Frexit, hello ecology: Why Le Pen’s party programme has a new agenda by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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The French nationalist scene has always been way ahead of the rest of us, from front national being a major player in politics while other countries had parties who were a decade or two from reaching parliament to the French new right who had developed a good ideological platform for dissident right wing politics in the 60s. France has a strong and living illiberal political tradition and French politics are a great source of inspiration for the rest of us.

A tearful farewell to the bees by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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This is the best time of year to get started since bees are the most active in the beginning of summer and it takes a while to get set up. My best advice is to find you local beekeepers association and ask them. There is a shortage of beekeepers so they are usually happy to get new members and will usually give you a lot of help.