FTN comes out on the anti-vax side

submitted by casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter from (self.debatealtright)

https://therightstuff.biz/2021/09/19/ftn-440-loicense-to-fink/

Good to see them embracing reality. Many marxnats will still deny reality and take the zogslop though.

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[–]Wrangel 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

The reality is that after billions of people getting vaccinated and a year after the phase 3 study none of the hysterical schizo theories about the vaccine have been correct. When the system hides something they avoid researching it, they don't fake billions of dollars of research and regulations involving tens of thousands of people.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

https://openvaers.com/

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

My problem with the anti-vax crowd is that they have failed to produce a coherent critique that would convince the average normie without looking paranoid or retarded. Unverifiable, self-reported data is not going to hold up under mainstream scrutiny.

But even if we were to take the data at face value, 15k vaccine deaths compared to the millions of deaths caused by the virus (and its mutations) is measly in comparison. It also does not differentiate between the various COVID-19 vaccines, which is important, since AstraZeneca seems the worst by far and should not be used to condemn the other options. Anecdotally, friends and family have got the vaccine with no issues. The worst symptom was a fever for a few days. Are you seriously going to suggest that long-term effects are inevitable based on personal scepticism alone?

Aligning ourselves with the anti-vaxxers is terrible for optics and distracts from real grievances such as the consolidation of monopolies due to excessive lockdowns bankrupting small, family-owned businesses. The wealthy have attained more wealth and the elites are in the process of implementing convenient methods of control over Western populations, yet here we are sperging on about vaccinations? It truly is disheartening. In fact, it would not surprise me if anti-vax shills are residing here purely to divide the community and shift focus away from topics of genuine importance.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the threat of the vaccine, and also covid, is not people dying, which is rare for both, but the long term effects of fatigue and brain fog. Designed to make the populace easier to control.

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is there any evidence for that claim? Especially since they already have porn and weed for that.

The vaccines are to ensure that globohomo can get back on track with rampant consumerism ASAP.

[–]TrabWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Aligning ourselves with the anti-vaxxers is terrible for optics and distracts from real grievances such as the consolidation of monopolies

How much has companies like Pfizer and Johnson&Johnson made with their vax? Hell Covid itself has been one of the greatest transfers of wealth in human history

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do not act as if this is the general position of anti-vaxxers.

They sperg on about systematic murder and concentration camps.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or, we focus on all of the realities, like the wealth transfers, and contemplate all of the possibilities, like camps for unvaxxed.

Plus, they are already talking about using these camps in many countries, Canada, NZ, the US. Just because they say they aren't concentration camps must mean they won't be, eh?

[–]Wrangel 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The average life expectancy of a human is 30000 days. For an adult it is about 25000 days. Vaccinate 25000 random adults and one will die within 24 hours and 7 within a week. Vaccinate a billion people and multiply that number by 40000 and you get hundreds of thousands of dead within a week of getting the vaccinated even if the vaccine contained nothing but water.

A list of people dying after getting the vaccine doesn't do more to prove vaccines being dangerous than a list of people dying in car crashes proves that breakfast causes car crashes. VAERS does not in anyway show causation.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Every person who has died to this vaccine (might be a small number, I'm not sold on any number, though) was mandated and coerced and guided into dying from this narrative and the new policies. People have died with every vaccine. Maybe not as much as some people believe, but there are always some amount of deaths and adverse reactions.

They are being mandated to die. It doesn't matter how many end up dying. It is never worth it.

You and the pro-mainstream narrative people are more or less saying that your fear of maybe catching covid is worth killing an indefinite number of people with these vaccines. Maybe it's only twelve people in each country.

I still oppose you. We do not need this vaccine mandate, or anything like it. This is wrong, and the people of the world are calling bullshit on the GovCorp. It's time you opened your eyes.

[–]Wrangel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They are being mandated to die. It doesn't matter how many end up dying. It is never worth it.

Pretty much every policy is going to have some negative effect. In total the vaccination program has saved far more lives than it has taken and been a massive net positive. If people can't even make a miniscule sacrifice for the people in their community that community is screwed. The "I don't care if grandma dies, I am an individual and the world is centered around me" attitude isn't a winning one for a civilization.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You will still kill grandma with the vaccination because you can still carry and spread the virus. The only second order effects of not taking the covid vaccine is that hospitals can't handle the surge of covid patients. One could easily argue the problem is that our health care system does not account for the surge in hospital visits during seasonal viral outbreaks.

[–]curious2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting. I could see your point if vaers death incidents mentioned those “normal” causes of death (car accidents, cancer, etc), but they don’t. So, why couldn’t one argue that these deaths are in addition to the deaths you mention? Curious what you think of this from Dr McCullough. Have you seen it?

“And so two important analyses came forward, one from McLaughlin in London and one by Rose, using the VAERS data and they basically concluded this: that 50% of the deaths occur between 48 hours of the injection and 80% of the deaths occur within a week.

“86% of the deaths have no other explanation. They’re well enough to walk into an ambulatory and actually have the COVID-19 vaccine and within two days, they’ve died. So, it’s my judgement – and I’ve done a lot of work on data and safety monitoring boards and clinical review boards – it’s my judgement, at this point in time that the vaccine is the cause of death in the majority of cases.”

https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/dr-peter-mccullough-urgent-warning-about-poisonous-jabs/

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A list of people dying after getting the vaccine doesn’t do more to prove vaccines being dangerous...

Nicki Minaj’s cousin and his swollen testicles after getting vaccinated all over again lmao

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Don't bother. These anti-vax retards don't care about logic or facts.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sniff sniff I smell a bootlicker...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

For most people these days, it's about government control.

One "hysterical schizo theory" that was being formulated at the very beginning of this nonsense, was that they would force global vaccine mandates on most countries. They were called crazy by folks like you.

Wake up and smell the shit on the wall. The GovCorp is trying to pull a fast one over you.

[–]Wrangel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For most people these days, it's about government control.

Basic vaccination programs aren't control, they are what separate us from a slum in Africa. I don't want disease carrying people to show up to my country with out controls. If we had valued stopping disease spreading behaviors more we would be in a much better place as a civilization.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

zogslop

Jesus fucking Christ, you people are becoming more cringe by the day.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

WTF is FTN

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's one of the original podcasts on the TRS network (therightstuff.biz network is run by Mike Enoch). The TRS crew are also the founders of the NJP (National Justice Party). National Justice Party site is Here:

https://nationaljusticeparty.com/

Another founding member of the NJP is Eric Striker. His site is here:

https://national-justice.com/

Here are two great speeches at the last NJP rally.

https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/87ew/the_blood_libel_of_domestic_terrorism_speech/uh97

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I suppose it should be no surprise they are anti vaccine?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRS wasn't automatically anti jab. Neither was I. They are probably starting to look at the same data I am.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fash The Nation

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol