Refuting a big Cope: Deplatforming is extremely effective and Bitchute is a dead end

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[–]Wrangel 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

1) I am old enough to remember pre internet days when I could at best hand out 400 fliers in mailboxes in a day of which the vast majority were never read. Thousands of views for one days work when there is a lot more content in a video than on a flier is still a huge upgrade compared to 15 years ago.

2) What works best is bigger platforms such as counter-currents, unz.com and therightstuff. Large portal sites with a lot of new content is what works best, especially news sites. Counter-currents seems to be doing really well with traffic.

3) The idea that you could make a revolution on youtube and facebook was wildly naive. No elite ever has given a platform for someone who wants to overthrow it. Tsarist Russia didn't allow communist revolutionaries to speak freely. If you lived in the Soviet union as a dissident you couldn't write for pravda. The suppression of the alt right is if anything exceptionally mild. Pol Pot lost many of his early friends long before he gained power. Revolutions are violently suppressed and have always been violent supressed. Thinking the enemy was going to give us a platform and then hand over power when we present better arguments is not realistic. We know when we actually are close to getting power and that is when the drone strikes start. They aren't going to hand over power, we are going to have to put ourselves in power. That doesn't mean violence, the Iranian revolution was peaceful from the revolutionaires standpoint but hundreds were killed by the state. I absolutely don't support violence but I understand that we will be subjected to it and that we are going to have to take power. Revolutions don't require internet. We don't get very far with funny memes, it is passive support. 100k people liked your video and then what?

What works is building organizations and political groups IRL. IRL organizing is difficult to shut down and has worked effectively in the past. what is needed is grass roots organizing, not twitter accounts. Information is far freer in the west today than it was in the Soviet union and that didn't stop polish workers from revolting peacefully against the system.

[–]AFutureConcern 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I like your optimism. The only thing I'd say is that the enemy propaganda is so much easier to produce as well. So I don't think that gives us an advantage. What it does mean is that people are slaves to propaganda more than they ever were in the past, and I don't think that's an advantage for the pro-natural order right (reality tends to be a redpill).

[–]Hemlock 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What works is building organizations and political groups IRL. IRL organizing is difficult to shut down and has worked effectively in the past. what is needed is grass roots organizing, not twitter accounts. Information is far freer in the west today than it was in the Soviet union and that didn't stop polish workers from revolting peacefully against the system.

Yeah, people need to get to work on this in their local "conservative" circles. I have a local normie-con Facebook group that I'm a part of and even there I'm seeing fertile ground. Hell, there's some other member there (who surprisingly, is a middle-aged mom) who shares Taki-mag articles, bitchute links, talks about "high trust societies", etc. I also found some local guy who is straight up Evola/ecofash, but he strikes me as bit schizo so I'm keeping my distance until I get a better feel for him.

I think we need to focus on gathering local communities and building support. We don't need logos, banners, etc. Let organizations like Patriot Front or Generation Identity or whatever do that. Keep it low key and focus on the social aspect and pushback. Your local town council may respond a bit better if what appears to be "concerned citizens" starts making noise, rather than rolling up with banners and posters and such. Both types can play a role, and the "local" stuff is a lot easier to pull off and a lot less likely to get globohomo to focus on you.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is all true and I agree with all of it. I'm just saying that the ban waves have greatly reduced the right's ability to influence public opinion

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're overestimating the value of lemming opinion

[–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But at the same time, current events are red pilling people left and right. Basically everything we've said about the Jew media is what were now seeing. Their mass immigration pipeline ran head first into the brick wall that is Coronavirus, and that is far more important than their propaganda temporarily herding the dumbshits in the direction they want them to go.

As you said yourself, as soon as the propaganda ends people forget it, and the same will happen with propaganda once people start experiencing the hard times that are coming. Virtue signalling is a luxury only the well off can afford. Were probably seeing the last times whites will ever care about this phony Jew bullshit. This will be their high water mark.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their mass immigration pipeline ran head first into the brick wall that is Coronavirus, and that is far more important than their propaganda temporarily herding the dumbshits in the direction they want them to go.

Legal immigration has come to a halt. But illegal immigration continues unabated. And in any case, this is only a temporary relief. They will reopen the borders again and continue on as before.

The effects of the coronavirus propaganda campaign will be felt for a long time. The deep state was able to whip Americans into a state of hysteria over a virus that is no more dangerous than the common flu. They were able to shut down the entire U.S. economy in response to this virus, which wiped out small business' and allowed megacorporations to make record profits. The deep state put the entire country into quarantine and convinced them to maintain 'social distancing' as a fictitious means of protecting themselves.

They were able to enforce an Orwellian dictatorship on the country, which many Americans accepted without question. Not only that, but they even attacked family and friends who refused to oblige. They became willing puppets of the state.