Genetics and war: After a century of genocide, Germans still make the finest soldiers in the world

submitted by casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter from self.debatealtright

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/tank-quotient/

Soldier capability is a sort of X factor in calculations of military strength. After all, it doesn't matter how much equipment you have in your arsenal if you don't have quality men to use it.

The arabs states display this the most. Despite geographically encircling Israel and having 4-5 times numerical advantage over the Jews, the Arabs were crushed thrice by the Jewish state in open battle.

Saudi Arabia spends more than Russia on defense and they fail to even defeat destitute Yemeni Houthis. Intelligence, discipline, cohesion and ability to work in teams are extremely important attributes for the modern soldier.

Arab troops lack these traits and thus collapse before materially inferior enemies repeatedly. Iraq against Iran and Isis. Syria and Egypt against Israel and the Saudis against Yemen.

A lot of these traits are biological, like intelligence, testosterone, stoicism and collective action. Japanese men despite relative physical inferiority made some of the best soldiers of the second wolrd war.

The NATO tank competitions are a great way to measure soldier competence as it involves a task that requires complex thining, maintaining and operating complex equipment and carrying out complicated maneuvers in cohesion with other tanks and air support.

Germans still rule the roost in regards to military competence. Remember, this is despite the generational losses of fighting men in WW1 and WW2. Not to mention the intentional genocide against German POWs by allied forces. Mostly the Soviets who killed 300k German POWs and Eisenhower who killed about 50k POWs.

Add to this societal demilitarization and endless demoralization campaigns by the media. Yet despite this they make the world's best soldiers. In ww2, analysis found that in offense and defense on average the German soldier had a 2:1 advantage over the Anglo-American troops and 3:1 over Soviet troops.

The Russian numbers are perhaps a bit inflated owing to the fact that Russia was a third world country in 1941 with a 50% literacy rate while Germany, England and the US were almost fully literate. Plus the Jewish Bolsheviks had mass murdered the Russian military aristocracy whereas the German and British still kept their military nobility.

Russia however seems to have recovered and they have the finest non-NATO soldiers. Both are historically warrior nations that were embroiled in relentless series of wars but Germans still might be superior troops to Russians.

On the other hand, its jarring to see the relatively low quality of American soldiery. Remember this is a country that spends 40% of the world's military budget by itself despite having only 4% of the world's population

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow, I did not expect this. Great post yet again.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You guys think the vast majority of the army will be on our side?

[–]Wrangel 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The US military is antifa with guns. Their mission is to keep Europe brown and gay and Israel expanding. The closest thing we have come to white nationalism in Europe in recent years is Serbia in the 90s which had a real nationalist uprising and the US responded by blasting Serbian cities from the air. US special forces helped islamists take over white villages and genocide them. Kosovo is a muslim state in Europe founded by the US. The US military has spent the last 20 years invading countries in the middle east and trying to do nation building there, aka pushing millions of migrants into Europe while trying to teach feminism to third world peasants. I honestly think we have more in common with antifa than US soldiers. They are literally the worst traitors in the history of white people since small numbers of whites supported Ottoman invasions of Europe.

Luckily I don't think the US military will do well in the long run. They are overstretched, have trouble recruiting, have too high costs and their own ideology is filling their organization with poz.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The US military is antifa with guns.

This is quite possibly the most retarded thing I've read in a few months.

Their mission is to keep Europe brown and gay and Israel expanding.

The US military only has one mission: follow the commands of civilian leadership. Most people outside of the US can't really fathom this because their own militaries reflect the low trust mindset of their non white populace. Very few militaries besides maybe the Germans or Japanese understand the idea of a military being yoked to civilian leadership.

and the US responded by blasting Serbian cities from the air.

At the order of civilian leaders controlled by israeli kompromat.

US special forces helped islamists take over white villages and genocide them.

Source

The US military has spent the last 20 years invading countries in the middle east and trying to do nation building there,

At the order of civilian leadership.

aka pushing millions of migrants into Europe while trying to teach feminism to third world peasants

Your comment is full of rhetoric. The US military doesn't get close to doing this directly. It's a fallout of US military intervention.

I honestly think we have more in common with antifa than US soldiers.

Another absolutely retarded comment.

They are literally the worst traitors in the history of white people since small numbers of whites supported Ottoman invasions of Europe.

Some of the generals are for sure but if you were actually following US politics closely you'd learn there's division among generals exactly for the reasons you mention. This is absolutely unprecedented and should be an enormous whitepill for nationalists.

If you slavs want to get on board you're going to need to get over your hate of americans and our military and our chauvinism. I spend a lot of my time getting former republicans now white nationalists in my own group to stop hating slavs. Why don't you try to do the same on the other end instead of falling for the obvious D and C.

No more brother wars.

[–]Minedwe 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't get the hatred for slavs. Slavs are one of the least pozzed groups in Europe today, despite constantly being under siege by Islam and Jewish Communism for the past few hundred years.

And besides, the only semi-reasonable explanation I can think of "Hitler said they were untermench" which isn't even true, iirc there was a post on the old subreddit or somewhere else completely dismantling that.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The US military is a tool for ZOG, that's what he means. The military ruthlessly bombed the Serbs who merely defended themselves against Albanian Jihadists. Plus the military is very diverse, 40% of total personnel, 50% of enlisted troops and 28% of officers are non white. Add to this the fact that far leftist whites are given preferential treatment and promotion plus the preponderance of crypto-homosexuals like Mattis, what you get is a near complete saturation of ZOGbots at the upper levels of command.

Bush the 2nd purged the military on his way out and Obama did another big purge, firing as many as 400 Generals and Colonels in his last days in office.

I really don't know where you saw division between Generals on anything. All them kneel before and support BLM

[–]arainynightinskyrim 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well blackpilled again, I thought the US military was overwhelmingly right wing, I guess I was wrong. The German military might have some of our guys in it considering that they disbanded a ksk branch die to "far right concerns".

[–]Wrangel 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The European militaries have a lot of right wing soldiers. The officers are a lot more cucked but the enlisted are often our guys.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, it's good to hear about our guys in european militaries.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I have it on pretty good authority that they will sit it out. The only way they get engaged is if there's a radical left president who goes through another similar round of military purges that happened under the Obama era. Even then there's still more then enough patriot types in the military that if generals ordered them to attack right wing whites they'd revolt. Which is again why I think the military getting involved at all is unlikely.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Going on the other side of the ocean, do you think that the soldiers in europe are on our side? Some of them are for sure if we look at the episodes with the ksk in the german army, but I want to know if it is a tiny percentage or if it is the vast majority of them.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm totally unfamiliar with the military sentiment on the ground in Europe. My guess is that they are all very pozzed except for select parts of the German military. I don't think the recent purge of one of the elite special forces divisions in Germany was a stunt. I think that a lot of European right wing types have eaten up anti american propaganda and arn't really aware that there are genuine nationalists in the US. That's changing though as the online dissident movement creates stronger connections among Americans, Europeans and Slavs. (we have some very solid third positionists in south america as well).

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its not propaganda. The US military is an occupying force on German soil, propping up the local leftist regime

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anti Americanism is good. It disgusts me to see these recent marches of Germans and how most of the "right wing" are so reminiscent of Anglo American conservative stupidity. I see the main chance of European rebirth with a German revolution. Anglo nationalism is no threat to because they have no authoritarian tradition and fear such a thing, while there is still some hope that there is some authoritarian Germanic will that could rise up and overthrow the system. Germans are the only Western power with revolutionary nationalist potential more Americanized Germans become the more that potential disappears.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I genuinely expected the european military to be way more nationalist than the american one.

[–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It probably is in terms of identifying nationality with ethnicity. The US military probably has a lot of civnats in addition to a fairly large number of hispanics and blacks. The British military in particular is overwhelmingly white and pro British, as in pro the original people of Britain. The same with other European armies. European militarys are more authentically ethno-nationalist, while whites in the US military are generally civnats along with the occasional liberal shitbag and a whole lot of dumbasses who never thought about anything political in their lives.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Arab troops lack these traits and thus collapse before materially inferior enemies repeatedly. Iraq against Iran and Isis. Syria and Egypt against Israel and the Saudis against Yemen. A lot of these traits are biological, like intelligence, testosterone, stoicism and collective action.

The performance of a nations military is heavily influenced by cultural factors. (Not biology per say) It is telling that no Arab state has ever managed to field an effective army, not even after they made attempts at reform. This hints at the existence of some cultural factor that systematically impairs them.

Germans still rule the roost in regards to military competence. Add to this societal demilitarization and endless demoralization campaigns by the media. Yet despite this they make the world's best soldiers.

The destruction and annexation of East Prussia also had a major impact on the German psyche. Prussia was the nerve center of their military culture. Its loss has amputated the Germans from their old identity.

In ww2, analysis found that in offense and defense on average the German soldier had a 2:1 advantage over the Anglo-American troops and 3:1 over Soviet troops.

That isn't quite what Trevor Dupuy said. He based his claims of German performance on two distinct criteria: Combat effectiveness value (CEV), and casualty inflicting capability. According to Dupuys studys, the Germans had a CEV that was 20% to 30% higher than the British or Americans, and were inflicting casualtys at a rate 50% greater than they sustained. The numbers against the Soviets were even higher.

The Russian numbers are perhaps a bit inflated owing to the fact that Russia was a third world country in 1941 with a 50% literacy rate while Germany, England and the US were almost fully literate.

The Soviet Union can be regarded as a half industrialized nation, similar to Japan at the time. They were above the agrarian nations of China and India, but below the fully industrialized nations of America, Britain, and Germany. Stalin made great strides in modernising Russia, but it was a very traumatic experience for the people.