We need an organised strategy rather than just complaining

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-29T21:37:54+00:00

I think if JKR were to get one up and running, that would do as much good as what she is currently doing, if not even more so. She is doing wonderful work, but it really helps to have a group that is dedicated to researching this issue and coming up with convincing messages about it.

The other half of it is for us to then parrot those messages. This is how conservatives and TRAs manage to sway people. They are incessant and constantly spouting off the same facts and slogans. Repetition matters a lot.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-29T21:10:21+00:00

Do you need an invite code to join?

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-29T21:08:53+00:00

I like the no downvotes feature, but I cannot stand having to deal with these psycho men on here.

Although apparently my username has gotten under their skin, which makes me smile lol

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-29T21:05:27+00:00

OMG I was just about to give up on saidit!!! Too many loons here. Hooray 🎉!

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-29T10:55:06+00:00

Maybe announce yourself first and say that you have some sort of weapon before entering. I am against guns, but if I have to start using the bathroom and locker room with men I am getting one, and I am going to openly carry it with me. I do not plan to become a rape victim, thank you.

Perhaps a knife or spray, IDK. I really would rather have something that reduces the strength imbalance as much as possible, though.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-29T10:47:40+00:00

That feeling of being intentionally misunderstood because you are not male. I have had this happen so many times in my professional life. Men act like what you just said is crazy, makes no sense, is completely illogical, so much so that they give you a weird look and say they don't even know how to respond. Then it makes perfect sense when your male colleague says the same thing.

It's the most infuriating thing, and it happens all the time to me. It's because they don't listen to what you are saying, but the do listen to what a man says. It's not even intentional on their part. But men are always just waiting to reply to a woman. They don't actually listen to what we say.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-28T13:40:40+00:00

I agree, I just wish I knew where to start. Maybe we need to do a Women's March on the issue or something. That's basically how BLM has pushed its message.

Most interest groups get their messaging from think tanks, though. Perhaps we need to fund one. Are there any out there we could donate to?

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-28T13:36:31+00:00

I had a sexual harassment training one afternoon recently, which we are required to do annually. This year, we have a couple of gender woo people in my office that are very loud about it, and asked aggressively what about men? What about trans folx? The trainer (usually really great) made a huge deal of course about how men also get harassed and trans people get harassed too.

I wanted so badly to call it out and ask what the victimization percentages are. We all know it's mostly men (trans identified or otherwise) harassing women, by far. But no, we have to make sure we are nice to the mens and the trans and ensure their fees fees aren't hurt about how much they harass women.

I couldn't think of a good way to bring it up without sounding like an asshole, and maybe it is assholish to be annoyed about. But I am going to think on it this year and see if I can come up with a good response. Very frustrating when women's issues are overrun by our oppressors.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-24T22:49:14+00:00

It's not a secret at all. My recollection is he commented on it during the Golden Globes, and stood up for JKR at the beginning of the whole debacle. He's made other statements and tweets before that IIRC.

TRAs are cowards, and see him as a harder target thank JKR. Gee, wonder why.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-23T23:53:49+00:00

That would completely destroy all the milquetoast, middle of the road claptrap Biden has built his whole campaign on. The vast majority of voters are either gender critical or gender conservatives. Queer theory is batshit insane leftwing ideology that will just get us another four years of Trump if the Democrats ever seriously embrace it. Some Democrats are that drunk on the Kool Aid, but most aren't. They just pay it lip service for woke points. No way in hell is Biden going to pick a TIM.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-22T23:07:53+00:00

It actually used to be pretty good, but it turned into a hate sub in the last 3-6 months. Speaking as someone who used to read it a lot. Now about half of what is there is stalkerish Gender Cynical crap.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-22T16:36:17+00:00

I mean you're the one who doesn't want to talk about intersectionality anymore? I'm sorry if it's confusing to some, but most of us on here are from the US. I don't really feel the need to clarify further when we are all mostly from the US here and speaking English.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-22T01:45:47+00:00

Yuck, she said feminazis? Fuck her to hell, that's just gross.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-22T01:39:48+00:00

Let's brigade it. Seriously, who cares. They are tiny and annoying. Just start making insightful and funny comments, and soon it will be our satire sub. :)

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-22T01:26:40+00:00

You've gone too far the other way. Of course everyone should be allowed to cry. Everyone has feelings, and some people feel more strongly and are more sensitive than others. But why is it always that women seem to cry more and are more sensitive? It's just gender performance. There's nothing innate about whether boys or girls cry more before the age of about 5-7. Yet boys stop crying as much from the time they enter school (at least openly), while girls cry comparatively more.

I don't have any statistics to back this up, just a lifetime of living around men and other women in the United States. It seems to be the consensus on this thread that women do cry more, with the exception of one commenter who says it's the opposite in her country. Some are looking for a biological basis for this behavior. I don't know why on a gender critical forum folks are so defensive about their female right to crying, but that goes against everything we stand for here to say it's just "female brain".

I get that it's hard to be critical of a comforting behavior we all are raised to do (with the exception of one person), but crying a lot is gender performance. And it holds us back.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-22T01:15:32+00:00

Should we accuse men of weaponizing their behaviors, even if they were raised with them and it's hard for them to undo that socialization? Of course, we do it all the time here. Why should we treat ourselves any differently? Radical change starts with us, and it's not supposed to be easy.

It really is not fair, but it IS our responsibility to change the things about ourselves that are holding us back. I think crying too easily is one of those things. It's a really hard thing to curb in yourself, no doubt. But it is performing femininity, and it is manipulative, even if we don't mean for it to be that way.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-22T01:08:37+00:00

I absolutely agree that few women are so privileged as your average white woman. My point is that even though we are very privileged, we have struggles too. I am having a hard time understanding why you think I am turning it into an oppression competition-- I tried to explain as well as I could that I am not. Even if Western white women have a lot of privilege, arguably the most of any women ever, we still have struggles. Of course every kind of person will have different kinds of struggles. They aren't the same, and we shouldn't try to rank them. But we should support each other in our mutual struggle for radical change, to be respected as individual humans and not simply the woman of some man.

The double edged nature of white female privilege is the main struggle for white women, to my mind. It offers a lot of protection, but in order to use it, we have to perform femininity. That keeps us from achieving our goal of liberation.

It's really hard to notice the things that make up your privilege-- but stuff like how easily we cry, since we are talking about that. That feels natural, because we've been socialized to perform this. But only babies and toddlers cry more than an American white woman. Every white American girl knew who was crying in the bathroom at a school function or whatever, and probably was that girl at one time or another. It's performing femininity, but it feels really natural, very comforting, and it's very hard to not cry when you are used to crying whenever you want. I should know, I have always been an infamous crybaby. It has taken me a lot of work to get to the point where I don't cry every time I say no to something. Do I mean for my crying to manipulate people into doing what I want? No. But is my crying manipulative? Yes.

Radical change starts with us, and it's never comfortable or easy. How can we expect men to respect us as fellow humans if we resort to childish, manipulative tactics like crying? How can we expect them to change things about themselves, if we refuse to change anything about ourselves? I get that it's hard, and it's not our fault we were raised this way. It isn't fair to have to work so hard to curb such comforting habits we've had since birth. But it's our responsibility to fight for ourselves, and this is just one example of a way that I think intersectionality is important even for privileged women, to target the kinds of radical changes that we need to make for ourselves. And also to work together to fight for radical change on behalf of each other.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-22T00:42:00+00:00

I'm really only talking about Anglophone, or maaaaybe Anglophone + Western European women. But mainly just American whites. Ukraine would probably feel more foreign to me than South Africa, TBH.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T13:59:20+00:00

Sure, it's a natural reaction to cry. It's also something that shuts down criticism. It can be both. I personally think that our being socialized to cry easily is very handicapping, as is men's socialization to not cry ever. Crying should be a rare but powerfully meaningful social cue that anyone should respect when it happens. As it is, white women cry so much that it is just a commonplace defense mechanism. No one really takes us any more seriously when white women cry; quite the opposite.

Fair on the origins of the K*ren slur, I've been beat over the head with that story so many times I assumed it was true. But I don't really know if it is.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T13:52:36+00:00

Fair enough, I keep hearing that too and just assumed it was true. All the more reason to oppose it-- I absolutely hate it, it's sexist as hell to throw that term around and giggle.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T11:39:04+00:00

Things like crying when criticized for being racist, for example. It can be done in a calculated manner to shut black people up, including black women. The K*ren slur originally comes from white women doing things like that, or calling the police on black people for being black. Of course now it's just used to oppress white women generally or to ridicule any older white woman who has a complaint, which shows how fuzzy these lines can get. The tools we use to attack black people, as white women, are usually the same things that are our oppression.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T10:49:15+00:00

I agree. Obviously we all need to be aware of the threat men present in our lives, and we have to be more careful than men do. But I am still going to work late and walk to my car by myself at night. I am not going to judge anyone who doesn't want to take that kind of risk. Maybe they are paranoid, maybe not, each person has to make their own decision as to what is an acceptable level of risk for them. I am privileged with health and relatively safe surroundings, not everyone has those advantages. But that doesn't mean my perspective that some degree of risk is acceptable doesn't matter either.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T10:29:50+00:00

IRL I have an old acquaintance who is a TIM. I wouldn't like scream at him on the street or anything; he mostly makes me sad. I think he became what he is out of internalized homophobia. His parents did a number on him.

The other is a TIF who is married to my friend. Similar story with her. She suffered horrible abuse at the hands of her parents. I think it makes her feel safer to live as a man. I don't go out of my way to spend time with her, but I do really like her wife.

The one thing that drives me nuts about my friend is she's such an aggressive TRA-- way moreso than her spouse, the TIF! But we have learned not to talk about trans issues for the most part. She's gotten the hint from me that we don't see eye to eye, so we leave it alone. Then our mutual friend is a TRA man (less aggressive about it tho), but somewhat gender non-conforming and male identifying. I think he also can sense the TERF-iness from me, but we are friends.

I just don't go off about my beliefs, and I like them all as people. They all mean well. It's more about setting boundaries-- I don't put up with casual sexism, for example. No slurs around me, please. I do not think I could be friends with an actual autogynephile, which seems to be what a lot of the TIMs are these days.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T09:50:26+00:00

I don't think intersectionalism in itself is bad. But intersectional arguments that black women have it so much worse, for example, do really take the wind out of white women's sails.

White women are particularly harmed by gender stereotypes of white feminity-- that we are coddled, babyfied, weak, and we are even more sexually objectified than black women are. Yes, it gives us some privilege over black women which is not right, but it also harms us more in other ways.

It is also much less acceptable for us to stand up for ourselves than it is for black women. I think sometimes black women take advantage of that. Other times, they are right that white women weaponize their femininity against black women. It would be nice to get back to basics and just be respectful of differences.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T09:26:11+00:00

Someone on the old GC sub recommended The Dance of Anger to me, and it is really good. Written by a radfem therapist from the midwest, so she knows what she is talking about.

The gist of it is that our anger gets misplaced because we don't get any practice with anger as girls. So we get caught up in expressing it or bottling it, rather than using it. Instead of focusing on expression/lack thereof, she recommends analyzing it to figure out what made you mad. Then express what you are going to do that addresses your feelings.

Simple example: Instead of arguing with your husband about whether you should be able to do XYZ, recognize you are mad because he's trying to control what you do. Then tell him calmly as you can that you are going to do what you want, and it's not up for further discussion. It will cause him to get upset and maybe act out if he isn't used to it from you, but that is how to handle angry feelings, according to her.

I am not all the way through, that's just based on the early chapters. I really like it so far, though!

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T09:16:43+00:00

I have literally started telling men no. They get all nervous when you tell them no, you will not smile. It's a nice change. There is a real Nice Guy™ at work who told me to smile, I said no, and I thought he was going to cry.

Don't tell me to fucking smile, I am not here for your fucking entertainment.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T09:03:45+00:00

My son has a physical disability, and you are so so so SO right. I still hadn't really found radical feminism by the time he was born, and it gave me so much comfort once I did. All of a sudden it was OKAY to just be how you are and not have to struggle toward a gender ideal. He needs that kind of compassion, and I do too. And finally I had a philosophical framework to support it!

A lot of what has always bothered me about liberal feminism is ot still seemed to reinforce a system where people are assigned a worth or pecking order based on physical and social qualities. It really is not that different from conservatism in that way, the only difference is what is valued. So libfems value super skinny coolgirls, but conservatives value barbie doll housewives.

Why do people need pecking orders? Why can't we all expect to be treated with equal dignity? I think radical feminism answers this question, and sets you up for a more fulfilling life. Trans ideology and liberal feminism just set you up for disappointment, because they are based on a constant struggle to always be more of something.

At a certain point, you just can't put in any more effort to be more feminine/skinny/sexy/cool/whatever. It will make you miserable to try. People with disabilities get particularly hurt if our society expects that kind of struggle. The only people who come out ahead are those who are born perfectly healthy, beautiful, and rich. That's not a good society, to me.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T08:43:40+00:00

Well it is true that for a lot of people, the measure of a woman is how much effort you put into the gender performance. More evidence of how cancerous the trans movement is to women's liberation.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-21T07:58:04+00:00

There was plenty of evidence, and then reddit nuked it. Try archive.org and look up /r/itsafetish.

Gender dysphoria wasn't a thing 20-30 years ago, and I don't believe it is truly a thing now. Mass hysteria and delusion has always been around, though.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-19T14:15:46+00:00

It is a little different with a TIM, because like as not, they are involving you unwillingly in their sexual fetish. Most of them are getting off sexually to you putting up with their behavior. They are basically one big walking sexual harassment.

So while I guess it's fine for you if that doesn't bother you, that would really bug me. I don't think I could peacefully work or learn in an environment like that. There's a reason why men (and women) are not allowed to create hostile work environments. A TIM is a walking talking hostile work environment most of the time.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-19T14:09:53+00:00

I honestly am wondering if it makes sense to message this poor girl and try to talk some sense into her. She was talking about "ending it" as a result of this experience.

She's only two months in on T and no surgeries. She's only got a lot more of this kind of rejection ahead of her, and her life would be so much better with some therapy and just living like the straight girl she is. Maybe she just doesn't know you can live as a butchy, non-conforming straight woman?? She needs a real therapist to help her, or at least a real friend to tell her it's OK to just be who she is.

Should we use this space to try to help our sisters who are suffering in this way? I mean there's really nothing to stop us, since we've been kicked off reddit anyway.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-19T13:56:40+00:00

Honestly, the area I live in in the Midwest is sort of modest even around other women. Every locker room and change room I have been in, myself and all the other women would change in a separate stall in some fashion (toilet/shower stall in the locker room, e.g.). If there were communal showers, I have only seen women use them while wearing bathing suits, even older women.

That doesn't make it OK to permit men into our changing rooms. I personally would fear him using the opportunity to masturbate to me (lots of evidence that this happens), take my picture, even take sneaky pictures of me from over top the stall. They might attack me if I happen to be otherwise alone in there. Sure, women could do the same thing, except they just don't. Women don't act like that. But there was a lot of evidence that transwomen do on /r/thisneverhappens. All of that evidence still exists, of course, even if it's hard to access

But even that is more than you really need to be opposed to sharing semi-nude spaces with men. Fact is, women in my area won't even get naked in front of other women. If they think a man could be in there, they simply won't even use a locker room, bathroom, or dressing room. Or worse, they may be forced to use them in a state of fear. Who could think it's right or OK to force women to use bathrooms where they are afraid of being preyed upon? And reasonably so, based on my preceding paragraph, but even if transwomen were the perfect lambs TRAs claim, it would still not be OK. What if we are talking about domestic abuse or rape victims-- who make up a large percentage of the female population, due to male violence? We are going to make them fear to go out in public, so that a tiny minority of the aggressor sex feels validated in their "identity"?

It's just not right. Why isn't there a call for men to be accepting of trans people in their bathrooms? Ultimately the source of the problem is their violence. Women are victims of it too. It's not OK to shift the blame for it onto us.

And for the record, I don't think transmen should be allowed on our bathrooms either. If you look male or are male, stay the F out.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-19T13:23:48+00:00

Hmm, I wish I could put my finger on why. ¯\(ツ)/¯

Gee me too! Hahaha

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-19T13:04:21+00:00

I wish we could all just recognize that the trans phenomenon is a recent cultural invention. If you could ask the real Mulan (if she even existed) or say other prominent "trans" people of history (Dr. Barry, e.g.) they would never had said they were trans. I guess that would go against the groupthink though to admit people can just pretend to be the opposite sex for their own ulterior motives though. Ulterior motives like: to become a soldier, to become a doctor, to harass women more easily, to make everyone an unwilling participant in your sexual fetish, or to avoid the embarrassment of being bad at sports!

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-19T12:44:30+00:00

Wealth, privilege, entitlement-- yep, sounds like the trans rights movement to me. Funny how much it's like the men's rights movement when you really strip it down to its bare characteristics.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-18T22:36:12+00:00

This is exactly my experience. It's easy to not see the sexism that pervades everything when you're a young college student at the peak of your value to males. As soon as you start directly competing with them for money, you start to see things a lot more clearly. Then when they stop mooning over you, and you actually can't keep up with them anymore because you're totally overwhelmed by your kids at home-- sexism slaps you upside your head at that point.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-18T20:36:59+00:00

Yeah, it's considered rude no matter what to criticize people it seems, though. Unless you apologize for it before and after, no criticism is allowed. We must be nice-- OR ELSE!

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-15T01:55:15+00:00

You forgot to delete this one too, you brave man.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-14T07:23:21+00:00

It's still a guy. We are socialized based on our biology as kids. You can't change all that socialization from a young age. People will always know whether you are male or female based on how you behave, no matter what you do to your body.

That's why it's so important not to socialize kids into gender stereotypes. You are literally crippling your girl children for the rest of their lives. Boys are socialized badly too, to ignore feelings and boundaries, to be violent, etc. We hurt our kids so much by shoehorning them into these roles.

Biology only matters because we make it so meaningful. It shouldn't be that important. The only way to make it less important though is to stop with all the gendering, trans ideology is 100% wrong on this bc they want MORE gendering.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-14T07:08:36+00:00

You want to sympathize because you've been programmed to. It's how society keeps women in their place. Don't feel bad about being unable to sympathize with men who want to use you and abuse you. Transwomen just use women to gratify themselves, they do not care about us.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-14T06:57:04+00:00

Just watch out here on the main subs. Lots of creepy misogynists and wingnuts. I would be careful not to share any personal info. The men on this site are very entitled, classic rapist personalities. Stick to the female centered subs.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-14T06:45:25+00:00

We used to have subs called /r/thisneverhappens and /r/terfisaslur that were chock full of this shit. Gone now, but you can find them on archive.org.

They were literally just a subs that linked to news articles and had screen shots. Very active, too. Can't go against the narrative, though, that's hate speech /s

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-14T06:30:52+00:00

I had a little boy look up my skirt from underneath my desk when I was six. Nothing was done by my teacher, and I was so upset. Thank god that girl's mother is standing up for her. I don't know if I even told anyone other than the teacher, because my teacher's response was so dismissive. It is so harmful to your psyche to be objectified that young.

Like many assault cases, nothing can be proved 100% because "he said she said" makes it a question of who is more trustworthy. I really hate that phrase, because it implies that evidence from women and girls is automatically less trustworthy or insufficient. You only need to prove something more likely than not happened in a civil suit, though. People get all upset over how quick folks are to sue, but that's the only way to get any justice in situations like this.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-14T02:40:16+00:00

Evidently not, since he castrated himself in prison a decade prior, using nail clippers. Yikes. Who the heck gave him the checkbook?

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-14T01:11:27+00:00

I was a kid in the '90s, but I look back on it so, so fondly. Even in my little corner of the Midwest, it was decidedly not OK to actually hate gay people, or anyone, but we didn't have any gender nonsense either. You could be accepting and still have some common sense and personal boundaries. We little girls were encouraged to run as free as the boys, wear our flannels and overalls and big boots. I got raised to look after myself, because it was important that I not need anyone, especially not a man. If I got in fights, built a fort in the woods (no boys allowed!!), went to a store alone, so what? The boys did too. It was the most magical time to grow up.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-12T13:52:34+00:00

I found GC when someone I agreed with on reddit got called a TERF. I had been on reddit already for years and quietly disagreed with all the TRA crap. I just couldn't verbalize what exactly felt so wrong about it all until I found GC.

You are absolutely right that most people are GC, or at least don't buy into gender theory. But it is super important for there to be a resource where GC ideas are laid out, so people can learn and understand why gender theory is so wrong.

I keep checking here in the hopes there will be an announcement of a GC only space somewhere....

Maybe we can take this site over from the right wingers and loonies and push them out, IDK.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-12T13:05:21+00:00

I've made a point of commenting on misogynistic comments on reddit ever since the bans. Previously I would more often downvote and move on, but since they've silenced my favorite subs, I have felt that it is important to be heard.

What's interesting is that although I do often get a lot of downvotes, it's not always the case! Sometimes it's surprising the places where I get upvotes for making GC points.

As much as I would like to quit reddit-- it's a cesspool-- I actually am sort of enjoying the fights with libfems and TRAs there.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-11T11:45:33+00:00

Wow, radical feminists, feminist videos and rad fem mothering? Those were not even close to mainly gc subs. And they were tiny.

I guess I'll be chilling at antiporn to see how long it is before reddit shows its true colors on that one too. Bet they nuke it and leave no fap alone.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-06T23:43:34+00:00

My understanding was they had already taken over the mod team.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-05T21:29:52+00:00

We should start referring to them as Timmies and Tiffanies.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-05T00:10:39+00:00

Not sure about moids, but I think it's the pinkpill version of femoid when referring to men. I think there are some misogynist subs out there that call women femoids.

PIV is penis in vagina.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-04T08:06:48+00:00

I know what they are, and I am very uncomfortable being on their platform.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-04T08:05:21+00:00

A lot of the posters on that sub have always been conservative. The only reason we weren't overrun by conservatives on GC (and many of them still tried to sneak in) was that radical feminism is by its very nature a leftist movement. Plus it was in the sidebar. Men in general are more conservative anyway because they have a lot more privilege, and gay men in particular have never really been too interested in women's rights for obvious reasons. They have a different fight, which is mostly won now. So they have a ton of privilege these days generally speaking and are a lot more conservative than they used to be. Some of them are good allies, but don't assume they are just because they are gay.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-04T07:54:56+00:00

Sounds like the GC mods are setting up their own site. So stay tuned, we'll be moving shortly anyway. This is basically like after a breakup when you have to get the crappy hotel room before the lease on your new place starts.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-04T07:45:11+00:00

I dunno, I am really offended by a lot of what is being written here. There was a post I saw when browsing s/all that was about how woke white women are so easily led, but why don't they understand their opinions are unattractive. Then bemoaned the supposition that black men are probably sleeping with a lot of them now.

All the comments in response were so awful and just as objectifying. I don't want to be anywhere near people like that. Just because it isn't as bad as voat doesn't make it OK.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-04T07:39:13+00:00

People will still hear about the site in a similar ways. I only learned about GC from TRAs who were going off about T*RFs. That led me to google it which led me to GC.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-03T19:20:06+00:00

I actually mostly agree with your analysis, which both pleases and surprises me TBF. Maybe we can all get along after all.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-03T18:16:16+00:00

You need to be able to kick men off the sub, or at least remove their shit. Otherwise they'll just try to invade this space too.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-03T16:38:39+00:00

I thought it was a good representation of the reason I am here in the first place.

MenAreFragileBabies · 2020-07-03T11:58:30+00:00

We aren't those kinds of ladies.

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