Idea regarding removal of women's bathrooms in favor of unisex/men's

submitted by ghostprototype from (self.GenderCritical)

In places where women's bathrooms are removed in favor of Unisex bathrooms, but Men's rooms are left as they are, women should opt for simply using the Men's room

In most cases, men in there will be too freaked out to say or do anything about it. Hopefully if enough women to do this, it will make men uncomfortable and they will demand women be given their own bathroom again. And their demands may actually get met because they're men!

Obviously it should go without saying that this should only be done in places and in a manner you feel safe and in a lot of cases for a lot of people that won't be possible. But if you're feeling ballsy and/or you have a friend wiling to go with you, do it

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[–]MezozoicGay 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Checking UK prison statistics, men's bathrooms can be safer place for women than unisex bathrooms.

[–]moody_ape 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it seems to me that to be respected you have to be violent and make people afraid of you. i mean, men couldn't bother less about having thir own bathroom, that's a female demand because we fear for our safety. and yet no one bothers them with "hey, i have the right to use your bathroom too because xyz". than you look at TIMs who threaten women with the excuse that they are TERFs because trans women have the right to use the female bathroom. i mean, c'mon! all we have to do is become what we fight against, girls (/s). many men have the nasty habbit of peeing anywhere, but in the bathroom debate they get to keep theirs and we lose ours. unbelievable!

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sounds like that’s what they want? Force us to share a bathroom with men so we can continue to be second class citizens. Once we start using it, then they’ll say that since we we’re ok using the men’s there is no need to have a women’s.

[–]ghostprototype[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That'll be dependent on the majority men, whether the presence of women in their bathroom is offputting enough to them to complain or if they just won't care

I think the former is more likely. It's easy to underestimate how much men value and rely on their own safe spaces

[–]jkfinn 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If it’s decided that this is a good form of protest, I would guess that the best way to do it might be in groups and not as individuals. Or perhaps women could occupy men’s rooms to make the point that women have no bathrooms of their own except these seized men’s rooms. Men would then have to use one of the mixed bathrooms.

[–]ghostprototype[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know if making this into a group activity or an occupy thing is a good way to go. It's very confrontational, and it's not like TRAs are actively occupying women's rooms to intentionally make us uncomfortable. It might look like a disproportionate response

Plus the reward vs. resources spent in a scenario like that doesn't seem worth it. Men's rooms are disgusting, I don't know if I want to encourage my fellow feminists to hang out in one any longer than necessary

[–]Comatoast 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I use the men's bathroom if the women's is full anyway. I just apologize to whoever I see, gesture the other toilets are full and carry on my merry whiz.

[–]CastleHoward 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think that's a great idea. We all deserve our spaces, including men. They use urinals and should not be forced to be cool with a woman seeing their genitals.

[–]Amareldys 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Men aren't freaked out when women use their bathrooms, have you never been at a crowded concert hall?

[–]Killer_Danish 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was at my city's last old-timey cinema for Rocky Horror last year and the bathrooms were "Mens" and "Unisex/Gender-rainbow."

I changed at the Starbucks across the street.

[–]Terfenclaw 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At least the men using men's bathroom in those cases won't be expecting to see women there.

[–]uwubunny 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I support this.

It'd create a lot of publicity, and that's all you need for now.

[–]MenAreFragileBabies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe announce yourself first and say that you have some sort of weapon before entering. I am against guns, but if I have to start using the bathroom and locker room with men I am getting one, and I am going to openly carry it with me. I do not plan to become a rape victim, thank you.

Perhaps a knife or spray, IDK. I really would rather have something that reduces the strength imbalance as much as possible, though.

[–]Pewpewpewvirus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s usually the men’s and women’s bathrooms that are removed/reduced; that’s what happened at our local library branch. They spent a few million dollars on a huge “inclusive” bathroom remodel. The men’s room is now a tiny hidden-away closet, and there aren’t any urinals in it.

I’m honestly not sure why you think they’d listen to what non-TIM men have to say, anyway. We’re absolutely third-class citizens in the eyes of anyone advocating for gender-neutral bathrooms.

[–]luckystar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not hardcore GC and bathrooms are one of the reasons. I don't care who uses the restroom as long as they keep to themselves and at least seem like they're trying to pass (no bearded dudes). I do think that ultimately more single room spaces for bathrooms and changing areas is the best way forward.