you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]MenAreFragileBabies 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Things like crying when criticized for being racist, for example. It can be done in a calculated manner to shut black people up, including black women. The K*ren slur originally comes from white women doing things like that, or calling the police on black people for being black. Of course now it's just used to oppress white women generally or to ridicule any older white woman who has a complaint, which shows how fuzzy these lines can get. The tools we use to attack black people, as white women, are usually the same things that are our oppression.

[–]lefterfield 39 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 0 fun40 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Skeptical about the crying thing. This has been a misogynist attack against women generally, that we manipulate men with our tears. Being called racist would be upsetting if you're a generally nice person, and could cause some to be so distressed they start crying. Most people don't have that much control over their emotional reactions. The "Karen" slur originally came from a misogynist male on reddit who wanted to bash his ex-wife.

[–][deleted] 25 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The Karen slur actually started with a Dane Cook comedy skit in 2005, before being started up in 2017 by the reddit user fuck_you_karen. I keep hearing it originated in black women circles, but I've yet to see the evidence of that, while there's plenty of evidence it started with and is mostly used by white men.

[–]MenAreFragileBabies 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough, I keep hearing that too and just assumed it was true. All the more reason to oppose it-- I absolutely hate it, it's sexist as hell to throw that term around and giggle.