LGBT discussion (science, morality, history)

Fonched · 2022-11-09T17:53:19+00:00

I think there may be a lesser percentage of moderates than there is in older generations? Like I don't see as many neocon zoomers as those who are pro-Trump and further right.

Fonched · 2023-05-29T02:58:30+00:00

Funnily enough, the people who complained about Roger Waters' uniforms are now being seen as the real Nazis.

Fonched · 2022-07-18T03:41:58+00:00

Not to mention a Trump supporting character was tortured in one of his music videos. Though this was before he was let free, it is telling.

Fonched · 2022-11-26T06:34:06+00:00

I find it strange Nick has the denier label so prominently affixed to his name when he's only vaguely brought that up and states he believes in the mainstream narrative.

Fonched · 2023-04-25T02:41:30+00:00

I see some JQ tweets go viral, likely more than HBD or general history.

Fonched · 2022-09-04T00:21:35+00:00

I hope they are able to hold on. I would say, just go mum until this frenzy all blows over.

Fonched · 2022-02-23T02:39:30+00:00

I'm guessing Noah Green's case is the exact same as Waukesha, in that they both weren't card-carrying members of their ideologies and therefore it isn't counted as a hate crime.

Fonched · 2023-04-07T04:37:44+00:00

I don't know how much left-wing protesters do charity, but besides the NJP and PF there's little alt-right groups that put on a positive image. Someone once described that the AR is in a perpetual state of griping whenever they're not winning.

Fonched · 2023-04-02T03:54:47+00:00

So much disappointment in the courts since 2020. Losses for Chauvin, Kessler, McMichaels, J6ers, Ricky Vaughn and now this. This is a crazy trend.

Fonched · 2023-02-24T01:39:59+00:00

How is autism just a symptom of today's society, like how does a child buckle to bad parenting and the problems of the world around them? I'm not really sure what peoples' thoughts on the disorder here really are, especially consiering the "acceptance" narrative going on now.

Fonched · 2023-01-26T05:16:40+00:00

I find it perplexing that he is reviled presently for his racial views, yet we have this.

Fonched · 2023-01-11T20:02:58+00:00

Among the arguments they use against this have to be Cheddar Man, black Roman soldiers or anything anti-race science.

Fonched · 2022-05-16T18:12:05+00:00

I have so far seen several articles that describe the theory but often provide little as to why it is not happening and is a different subject anyway of supporting/opposing it vs plainly stating it exists or not. Most of the criticism we're seeing today says it is a bad theory because its believers care about race and are opposed to it happening. If anyone does examine the theory, they often say it is not deliberate in any way and wouldn't result in displacement of Whites.

I find it bewildering that Tucker is to blame over all, as in any way he was not the main inspiration.

Fonched · 2021-11-30T04:43:10+00:00

I knew this was happening for a while, some claimed that apparently Jack was apathetic to the "wrongthink" present on the site and were working to oust him.

Fonched · 2021-11-23T21:05:12+00:00

Glad at least the first two charges were not contested, but the rest of it is just damning. There needs to be forward thinking in this case as to how we can still get our First Amendment-protected speech heard, and how not to get trapped in a sticky situation in the future.

Now, an interesting question related to UTR. I recall many saying that these protests would have elevated the alt-right to mainstream political presence had there not been such a scary scene at the rally and a major fallout for nationalists after August 12. What if tension between both sides of the protest remained calm, and the Fields situation never happened?

Fonched · 2021-08-22T00:48:21+00:00

I enjoy his blog quite a lot and I don't really care about political division. I'm into it to look at stuff that 90% of us agree on and not positions on leaders or whatnot.

Fonched · 2021-05-14T16:41:40+00:00

Man I wish people could stay clean and away from all those suspicious forces, or that we can find new people that don't engage in shady controlled-opposition affairs. Nick Fuentes has a good personality going on and a decent audience, but he's definitely down in the swamp with all this evidence.

Fonched · 2021-05-01T16:56:05+00:00

Definitely a crying shame especially since we don't have people from other viewpoints on tap here. Can certainly promote this place across the board.

Fonched · 2021-05-01T16:22:38+00:00

I recall a weekly general thread here a few weeks ago. We could certainly attempt this again for a test period.

Fonched · 2022-12-05T03:44:22+00:00

They just seem to bunch Kanye with the White notsees or explain what Hitler would have done to him, latter of which I'm skeptical of because he is sympathetic to the movement and he could likely move back to the homeland.

Fonched · 2022-09-06T03:48:08+00:00

I have heard rumors that Kef (the main subject of the KF drama) faked some of this or that they have done some unreputable things. Can't confirm it though.

Fonched · 2022-09-04T23:36:56+00:00

Actually, Jordan Peterson and a few others were temporarily banned from tweeting because they questioned the logic behind Page's name. And they're plain conservative, think of that. If you've seen Twitter then you know the right has been through a lot, from Anglin, to Trump, to whatever's going on now.

Fonched · 2022-09-04T06:31:09+00:00

Well they are vastly calling KiwiFarms a RW site since it finally got b@ for being anti-transgender and not just for any other antics they have been in over the years. The site's head says the removal might be trouble for others as well in an interview.

CloudFlare was also the same ones who did away with 8ch and the Stormer quite quickly.

Fonched · 2022-09-01T01:50:17+00:00

Exact same thing Bill Nye said when he tried to debunk racialism. And that's all he said believe it or not.

Fonched · 2022-06-05T02:29:46+00:00

What do you say about its' presence throughout history and cultures?

Fonched · 2022-04-20T22:36:49+00:00

Reminds me of popular arguments against this, such as that the majority of immigrants to the UK are Europeans (Poland often being the chief example), that most plan to be temporary, or that the majority of non-European immigrants head to non-European nations. How do these numbers run contrary to them?

Fonched · 2022-04-08T21:49:31+00:00

I can't believe that the no-platforming is still cascading from something that happened over 4 years ago.

Fonched · 2022-03-14T23:02:38+00:00

What does that mean exactly? We say that "white culture is everywhere" is a sign of white culture existing, but the left says that it means Whites don't face any challenges (like "straight pride").

Fonched · 2022-03-14T22:00:54+00:00

I concern myself with past definitions of whiteness because of how much it is used within the realm of whiteness studies, and therefore I am looking for answers to those questions. It seems to relate to why people dislike whiteness in the present day, and supposed fluidity with certain groups becoming more middle-class.

So I'll start with this for us to go over. https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2184754/chinese-were-white-until-white-men-called-them-yellow

Fonched · 2022-03-13T19:46:14+00:00

This thread is more about interpreting historical definitions of whiteness laid by societies. Personal definitions of whiteness are something different.

If you would like, I could bring more concepts to the table in the replies below.

Fonched · 2022-03-13T02:54:51+00:00

The one-drop rule thing I was referring to was rather different, in the sense of people who skew more towards half of one race rather than having trace amounts of both such as Warren (such cases are never really mentioned in whiteness studies). There is a famous quote that goes, "a white woman can have a black child, but a black woman cannot have a White child." It's why Barack Obama for instance, despite being half-black and half-white, is always considered black over white and where claims of the entire whiteness system being based on purity and being oppressive.

Otherwise I feel that is beyond the scope of today's discussion as result. But there is more to be brought up, with Anglos vs. other ethnic groups in America and the entire concept of whiteness.

Fonched · 2022-01-17T22:06:36+00:00

When I see these draconian rules being passed, I wonder if the people behind it are aware of the downsides.

Fonched · 2021-11-04T16:50:28+00:00

I agree on that part, but I am in the research process right now. While they provide some leniency if one is disgusted by their sight, they still exclaim how it's a human right for them to exist based on other factors and that homosexual/transgender people are not disgusted themselves.

Fonched · 2021-07-14T16:46:47+00:00

Despite this, nmany will still claim that these were either justified, or nonexistent and spurred on by the Boogaloos depending on the situation.

Fonched · 2021-06-25T20:52:31+00:00

I've been somewhat lost on the JQ lately as there have been claims going around that their numbers, anti-White sayings and signs of representation have been cherrypicked.

If it is true, they'll claim:

-They're not involved in a plot because they are competing against one another (in a capitalistic sense)

-As in a popular Forward study and Dershowitz quote, these people haven't found these publications standing up for interests of America's Jewish population very much ("Whenever there are allegations of Jewish “control” over the “media,” the primary examples cited are The New York Times and the Washington Post. Both were founded by families of Jewish origin. But neither has ever gone out of its way to promote Jewish causes or values. The New York Times was derelict in reporting on the Holocaust and generally opposed the establishment of Israel. It remains critical of many current Israeli policies (as does the Washington Post).")

Or if the numbers don't add up, it's confirmation bias vs. the large amount of Gentiles in the field or just "baselessly overlaying Stars of David" on infographics. A compilation of charts about this point: https://gab.com/Fonched/posts/106292117954739911m

Fonched · 2021-04-28T22:22:49+00:00

It sure is, hopefully there will be a good reprieve from this regime someday.

Although this is now over, I have an extra few questions regarding the trial.

-What does everyone think of what some of the prosecution medical experts have said? Some have been bringing up Daniel Isenschmid's chart with a fentanyl-nonfentanyl ratio as the answer to anyone believing Floyd OD'd. -Or of the "space aliens" meme from Nelson towards the end of the trial?

Fonched · 2021-04-06T22:31:33+00:00

This study was conducted by Robert Pape, although many like Feuer are bound to promote the conclusion. Interestingly, so many are dunking on Pape's research, complaining as to why he even believed racism wasn't what fueled the events at the Capitol.

I however have gotten some other points from these tweets: -Whites becoming a minority is revenge for racism, slavery, colonization etc. (basically any statements about Whites accepting minority status/anti-White actions they make are results of those historical factors and modern WN beliefs. They will say this in regards to us desiring self-determination, and even apply this to sentiments shared by Trump supporters) -"When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" -Trumpism (and likeminded groups like Q and Proud Boys you have mentioned) just so happens to check all the boxes for bigotry (directly akin to Alt-Right)

I certainly would like some reactions, perspectives, or good rebuttals for those, as I am still learning new things concerning people's views to the Alt-Right. The central cpoint of this argument is that many Trump supporters/WNs are actually well-off, and that none of them can head to those belief systems by being poor but rather, solely falling for racial hatred. I would like to see some right-wing community perspectives on this study and some of these arguments.

Fonched · 2023-12-20T04:11:46+00:00

I am praying that the movement will come out stronger, or we will have something newer and better.

Fonched · 2023-12-20T00:20:15+00:00

Sad. Incidents like these only add fodder to the leftists to celebrate "fascists eating their own", and the TRS/NJP crowd should know that.

Fonched · 2023-11-17T05:28:31+00:00

Well I hope this free speech can be maintained. IBM has already pulled out of advertising on Twitter because of these comments, sad.

Fonched · 2023-08-08T03:52:55+00:00

It is now being alleged that one of the crew members pushed the boat away from the dock, when the longer video was released.

Fonched · 2023-06-27T05:48:42+00:00

Different domains, registrars are still playing hot potato with the Stormer

Fonched · 2023-06-19T04:53:58+00:00

For outrage, the left claims the transgender debate is "culture war" nonsense made up after the battle over gay rights was lost by the right, and that most of America simply doesn't care about these issues. I however don't know who would have started this kind of burst of news into the transgender movement.

Fonched · 2023-05-15T02:56:00+00:00

Since the new millennium there has been an influx of Somali immigrants into the state's cities.

Fonched · 2023-05-14T03:17:51+00:00

I see the "half-white people are never counted as white" thing most often, but it only really makes a difference if the majority of non-white population growth comes from interracial relations. Or that even if it goes below 50%, white people may still have institutional power or it's still not quite low.

Fonched · 2023-05-14T03:15:44+00:00

When I saw California's graph on Twitter, many were pointing out how it failed to show that there were more white people today in absolute numbers, especially nationwide. But the chart still showed white population growth leveling off (going sub-zero in recent years) and the absolute number showing a slight decline. I don't 100% know about this "more white people today" thing, or when the post-1965 reforms would have truly seen growth in non-white populations.

Fonched · 2023-04-28T23:08:46+00:00

I can put out with it, but from all the podcasts I want to watch there's just too many for me to fit into extended periods of time.

Fonched · 2023-04-07T23:06:40+00:00

Some extra takeways:

*Sodom and Gomorrah referred to inhospitality

*The "Arsenokoitai" verse referred to a specific kind of act, not all homosexuals

*Do we need to follow other OT rules if using Leviticus 20:13?

*Where does "love thy neighbor", "God loves all his creations the same", and "Jesus supported the outcasts of society" factor into this?

Fonched · 2023-04-03T18:20:37+00:00

The clearest case or most bipartisan of them all at that.

Fonched · 2023-03-05T22:07:55+00:00

I understand this, but the way this is being presented by the right leaves more to be desired. Once they post this, pro-LGBT people say "why are you against people being themselves?" or "how does this affect you in any way?" The right-wingers unfortunately do not provide reasoning alongside the tweets as to why these identities are a negative, which would help them make their case better.

Fonched · 2023-02-13T00:39:55+00:00

Sex, not gender in this case.

Fonched · 2023-02-12T05:44:36+00:00

There seems to be more compounding factors; that conditions have worsened as a result of colonization and thus the colonized people have no place to choose but to head to a Western nation, or that strong connections (UK-India) make it inevitable that mingling happens. Thoughts on that? There are two flavors of the first argument, that being pre-WW2 imperialism and the other being any of the recent destabilization in the Middle East and Latin America. I don't know who's to blame for the latter, as the left may hint towards it being WS.

Fonched · 2023-01-30T03:15:49+00:00

What they're going off of is that since the officers are black, they still held biases as part of a WS system or they were dismissed/charged faster than white officers, such as Chauvin & co. To challenge this I don't know the stats, but the former could be explained with police brutality numbers.

Fonched · 2023-01-28T00:57:34+00:00

Spain from 700-1942?

Fonched · 2023-01-10T03:25:43+00:00

That is because of the framing of the "conspiracy" angle. It would be a benefit to have more intellect on this side, but there unfortunately seems to be a loop inbetween people disregarding our ideas and quashing anyone who steps up.

Fonched · 2022-11-08T04:27:54+00:00

I can see how each of these different news sites have different formats. Not a bad change by any extent, just wish the original articles on Justice-Report were easier to get to as Hyphen was a dedicated site.

Fonched · 2022-10-07T04:41:52+00:00

His, but yes, it is bolder than anything he has done politically before.

Fonched · 2022-10-06T03:54:02+00:00

That was still conservative territory seeing the decent amount of blacks for Trump, but entering WN territory with White Lives Matter apparel is something that has hardly been done before, so this may speak volumes about his political strategy.

Fonched · 2022-09-15T18:59:05+00:00

Bypassing mainstream academia and putting out works related to it independently would help. These would be the next best professional displays of race realist research as well as listening to constructive criticism.

Fonched · 2022-09-15T18:51:59+00:00

Elsewhere it seems they are fighting back hard. How many viral tweets I see in favor of the casting choice, or calling conservatives racist for opposing this.

I don't know how cons would be considered racist though if they simply oppose this but are not fully onboard with the alt-right on race.

Fonched · 2022-08-24T04:48:41+00:00

I am hoping that this will go smoothly, people will be able to attend without any altercations. Though since a Republican student organization is hosting this, what does this say about the "GOP is racist" meme?

Fonched · 2022-08-14T02:31:59+00:00

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/tv/image/1533/35/1533357770880.png Along these lines, what are your thoughts on this, Saidit?

Some will also point out that in a multitude of European nations where this is illegal, denial of communist crimes and other world atrocities are too; therefore Holocaust laws are not part of a conspiracy.

Fonched · 2022-07-19T21:16:53+00:00

I know he is someone who does not want to intervene with Israel/Palestine or Ukraine/Russia but where has he stood with the former sides and been pro-capitalist/neo-conservative?

I still don't mind most of his back catalog of articles because these summate left vs. right affairs, and are stances that 90% of us agree on about race, history, and sexuality.

Fonched · 2022-07-09T00:14:28+00:00

Pandering to the left. And its just not gonna work on whatever nerd posts the punching gif in the replies, thinking Spencer is still King Nazi.

Fonched · 2022-06-30T21:39:00+00:00

There's been a lot of uproar defending this scene, especially the mention of menstruation. Do any of you find the general topic of periods unsuitable for childrens' cartoons?

Fonched · 2022-06-12T17:45:16+00:00

Sadly this knowledge won't be mainstream. The left is celebrating like PF legit was trouble for the Pride event, and no shady elements were present within the organization/surroundings.

Fonched · 2022-06-09T21:22:53+00:00

Welll I will admit that person is quite biased and moans about criticism as if it is the worst thing ever.

I did ask, though just in case one would have more insight on such history.

Fonched · 2022-06-07T21:51:45+00:00

I would be okay with utilizing SaidIt as long as we can or it does not degenerate.

Fonched · 2022-06-07T20:53:09+00:00

Where could I read more about this?

I would also like to talk about societies that have been more tolerant throughout history or built creation myths around homosexualtiy/transgenderism. What do you think about this?

Fonched · 2022-06-06T03:35:23+00:00

This was a thing more before Christianity or in non-Western cultures, but I would like to know how much it was socially accepted worldwide, and what was the end result as well as if it has any bearing on us.

Fonched · 2022-06-01T22:39:51+00:00

Well, what constitutes a mental illness exactly? On the surface such does not seem to be behavior disrupting typical life; gays can go long with abstaining from such sex. Not to mention anal is quite common in straight people, and the treatment for HIV has increased gay lifespans since the 1980s. As for what's going on in the brain, the study I mentioned above seemed to dispel that - it was replicated three times to the exact same result, although I'm not 100% sure of it since it excluded psychiatric patients (proponents of the study claim that was a boon), and it had a small sample size (likely due to the limited amount of homosexual subjects at the time?).

Fonched · 2022-06-01T21:12:46+00:00

This is not a myth. These "studies" don't and can't quantify the harm of being raised by butt bandits.

What data might you have exactly? Here is my depository - if you notice any flaws, let me know.

Gay people are mentally ill by definition. See the DSM Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders before wokeism.

How does it exactly compare to modern data?

Also true. These studies refuse to classify closeted male on male molesters as gay in order to cover for fags.

This can be true, but is there any evidence as to them closeting homosexual sex offenders?

Fonched · 2022-06-01T21:03:45+00:00

Honestly I prefer putting effort into scientific studies because it will better convince people of any downsides that may exist, especially among more intellectual denizens.

Some have contested the facts about their STDs as they now have PrEP medication that can treat HIV well, and I have seen one instance where heterosexual HIV rates have surpassed that of homosexuals.

Have you ever met a gay person? They are repulsive perverts to the man.

As homosexuality has become more accepted by the public, how does this statement hold up? What does the average pro-gay person think?

Fonched · 2022-05-17T17:52:45+00:00

Yes, though it is more of a liberal view. Leftists say that a replacement theory mindset had been ingrained in America since its founding or after the Civil War at most.

Fonched · 2022-05-17T03:47:30+00:00

The shooter did not draw from Tucker at any time. Tucker's probably just mentioned lots because he's one of the few conservatives who have come close, along with a few other GOP members.

Fonched · 2022-05-07T22:24:49+00:00

Casts doubt on the "more White people today than ever before" line.

Fonched · 2022-05-06T02:13:24+00:00

What does everyone think of these arguments against pro-life sentiment? https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/376104801 I haven't seen much rebunking of these yet.

Fonched · 2022-03-25T21:56:25+00:00

It is getting drier and drier by the day. I hardly see any postings on the JQ/implicit alt-right topics anymore, even compared to two years ago.

For recommendations, I say @HarmlessYardDog, @USRising1776, @cursedsalad and @elwoodblues.

Fonched · 2022-03-20T17:39:05+00:00

Great question. I have also seen arguments that:

*Transgender women who succeed in sports have natural talent or are just good in general

*In a pool of many female athletes we must test them to even figure out who is transgender which brings about body standards - an issue which crosses over into race

*They have competed in 1% of Olympic events and are just uncommon, so they aren't dominating women's sports

Fonched · 2022-02-18T02:56:25+00:00

While I disagree with what these guys are saying, I wish the energy the AF sphere has could be recreated on our side.

Fonched · 2022-02-10T18:56:46+00:00

Bold and excellent moves by the team. I had desired that the M2R crew wanted to cover the whole story that "Brooks was not directly affiliated with BLM movements, therefore this was not an anti-White act" that's been going on though.

Fonched · 2022-01-08T02:34:55+00:00

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics/fact-check-capitol-insurrection-january-6-lies/index.html I'm already seeing some news outlets/fact check sites say that there is no evidence the Capitol was part of a fed setup or that Ray Epps did not count as he himself did not enter the building.

Fonched · 2021-12-05T02:39:30+00:00

Yes, although nothing is enough for them to prove it was malicious.

Fonched · 2021-11-30T04:46:01+00:00

Would rather stay as long as we can, until things would start getting hellish.

Fonched · 2021-11-27T22:10:40+00:00

I recall looking at many classic pop culture things and realizing the backgrounds of people involved, but I thought it was just a special sight not long before I shifted well to the right. Otherwise all I had was a very normie understanding and opinion.

Fonched · 2021-11-26T21:18:39+00:00

Regardless of this, they are still finding a way and banking on the fact there are 25 defendants listed to pay all the damages. Who knows if they apply the same strategy elsewhere, to groups who actually have money and are more likely to retain such until their civil suits conclude.

Fonched · 2021-11-24T17:27:53+00:00

It makes a sorry excuse for not showing the posts, in that his accounts were taken offline when clearly his posts have been making rounds. Although if they have, that isn't enough to demonstrate that he was an affiliated BLM activist.

Fonched · 2021-11-24T16:53:39+00:00

I've heard somber talk from some of their people, but the celebration mostly goes that Charges 1 and 2 were not accounted for or that the defendants do not have enough money to pay damages.